Wednesday Bird Droppings
by Camden Chat on Sep 30, 2009 7:00 AM EDT
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O's slide grows to 12 games -- baltimoresun.com
"He canceled batting practice before today's game, told his players to report later than usual to Tropicana Field and encouraged them to use the time to "go do something nice, go have fun, take your wife, go see a movie. Come to the ballpark and we'll win tomorrow night." Let's see if that works. I have my doubts. - duck
It's not fair, but Trembley needs to go -- baltimoresun.com
"Dave Trembley reminds you of a guy in a knife fight and all he has to defend himself is a swizzle stick." That's Kevin Cowherd's logic. Really. - duck
Q&A with Bill Ripken on the 1989 Orioles - baltimoresun.com
"It seemed like the planets were kind of aligning. The thing that stands out first and foremost is defensively we were better than any team we played against. We didn't make mistakes." I'm just gonna keep posting these, since it's better than any recent news about the team. -duck
N.A.B.O. Title Fight at Shorebirds' stadium - Delmarva Shorebirds
Hometown hero Fernando Guerrero fights Ossie Duran on Oct. 10th in an outdoor boxing match in Salisbury. The civic center in Salisbury isn't allowed to sell beer, so the local promotor decided to give Arthur W. Perdue Stadium a try. Fernando (whom I coached against when he wrestled in high school) brings his 15-0 (13 KO) record back to the 'Bury to fight professionally for a fourth time. - duck
Orioles' Minor-Leaguer Charged With DUI In Florida - WBAL Baltimore
"A minor league pitcher in the Baltimore Orioles' farm system was charged with driving while under the influence Sunday evening, according to Florida authorities. Ryan Ouellette, 23, was driving a 2002 black Ford truck that hit a guardrail, according to an arrest affidavit from the Martin County Sheriff's Office." Reporting the bad with the good. And as soon as we get any good news, I'll be sure to pass it along. -duck
Orioles notes: McCrory likely done for season, Pie unlikely to be back - baltimoresun.com
"Reliever Bob McCrory returned to Baltimore and will have an arthrogram taken on his sore right shoulder today. He's probably done for the season." Jeff Z over at The Sun goes on to inform us, his dear readers, that Felix Pie most likely won't be back this season, or, as I like to call it, the next 5 days. -duck
Drainage! Drainage, Eli! Drained dry, you boy! If you have a Open Thread and I have a Open Thread and I have a straw and my straw reaches across the room and starts to drink your Open Thread. I drink your Open Thread! I drink it up!
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Well folks...
This slide is certainly disheartening. But think how much talent we dont have currently playing for us as opposed to earlier…
Koji
Sherill
Reimold
Adam Jones
Aubrey Huff
Shut down Matusz
Felix Pie
Zaun
It blows, but for a .500 team to take all that talent away, I dont know what else we should’ve expected. Im ready to choke a baby seal at this point.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 8:14 AM EDT reply actions
Oops
Meant to say just under a .500 time (towards the middle of the season when we were like 6 games back). Eh… forget it. Im in denial….
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
you forgot mccrory too
think about THAT talent
by twistedlogic on Sep 30, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
And the greatness that is Rich Hill
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
oooo yea!
i had almost forgot about the days when teams would just plain rich hill us to a pulp
by twistedlogic on Sep 30, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Bergeson
Koji
Sherill
Reimold
Adam Jones
Aubrey Huff
Shut down Matusz
Felix Pie
Zaun
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 8:46 AM EDT reply actions
Just watching him....
I’m not that impressed….
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 30, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I just wouldn’t put him in the same category as Bergesen or Jones.
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 30, 2009 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
WW was just listing the players (the ones who don’t suck, eg Hill or Eaton) that we’ve lost throughout the season. I don’t think he was equating Koji to Bergy…
Thanks Nina
You’re a good interpreter.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand...
My first reaction was that I don’t think Koji is talented. But I suppose he hasn’t sucked nearly as bad as most of the pitchers we’ve wheeled out there. Sorry to cause so much contention! :-p
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 30, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t have great stuff or anything, but he’s a passable number 4 starter and that’s much more than we can say for Hendo/Waters/Hernandez/Berken/etc…
When you put it that way....
agreed. :-)
by NewYorkOriole on Sep 30, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats almost a whole starting lineup....
Not a great one, but alot of talent in there.
RF Pie
LF Reimold
CF A. Jones
1B A. Huff
C G. Zaun
SP Bergeson
Relief Koji
Closer Sherrill
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll take Wieters for Zaun
Let’s not get crazy. That was an upgrade.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
Of course it was.... but he was a good backup I thought
At least when it came to grooming Matty.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Sano signs with Twinkies !!!??
I thought the Orioles were in the hunt for the Dominican wunderkind SS. Now I see the Twins have signed him for $3 mil+. Do the O’s have a secret SS somewhere that hits like Miguel Cabrera? What is wrong with them? Are they simply not paying attention? Or maybe Mychal Givens has suddenly decided to play baseball for a change.
Well he is "16" so he might not be worth it really
Hating the New York Yankees is as American as apple pie, unwed mothers and cheating on your income tax ~ Mike Royko
I'm starting to really believe
the sportswriters in this town won’t be happy at all until Davey Johnson is rehired. Seriously, that’s the only thing I ever hear from the professionals when it comes time to talk about the manager: he’s no Davey Johnson. What the Orioles need is a Davey Johnson type. Davey Johnson knows how to win games, deal with it!
Ugh. What happens if Davey Johnson comes here and the Orioles are still mediocre (at best) because the on-field talent isn’t quite there? Then what? You’ll be able to hear the disillusionment around town as loud as a banshee scream.
Now, don’t get me wrong. I think Dave-o is gone gone gone, and it’s probably a good thing. But I’m tired of hearing about Davey Johnson.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
by Andrew_G on Sep 30, 2009 10:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I didn't read that article
But Schmuck wrote a counter point on why Trembley should stay.
Anyone who wants Davey Johnson back didn’t see him in the WBC. Dude looks ready to collapse.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
Sano
When Givens signed, I assumed that we would not pursue Sano. Too bad that Pittsburg lost yesterday, we are close to having the number 2 pick.
At some point, I would like to see an evaluation of Joe Jordan and his draft choices. Jordan was hired in November 2004, meaning that he owns the 2005-9 draft classes. Evaluating the entire draft is beyond my capability. Looking at the first rounders reveals a mixed bag. 2005 was Brandon Snyder. 2006, Billy Rowell. 2007, Matt Wieters, 2008, Brian Matusz. 2009, Matt Hobgood.
Wieters and Matusz were high on everyone’s list, so they were obvious selections. Hobgood was a puzzling choice to the baseball world, so selecting him gives Jordan a chance to be a hero or a goat. Rowell is a puzzler because he is bad at the plate and in the field. I can see why a scout might be seduced by a HS player’s power, and fail to see the fatal flaw in the swing. But, why couldn’t they see that Rowell is a liability in the field? Mike Flanagan predicted that Rowell would be in the big leagues after only two years in the minors. How could they be so very wrong on the boy’s ability to catch and throw? I assume that most high draft choices who flame out do so in the upper minors. Rowell has been awful from the start. The jury is still out on Snyder, but his bad numbers at Norfolk don’t bode well for next year.
So, out of 5 first round choices, Jordan has two successes, one failure, one probable failure, and one too early to tell. Is this a good record?
Iirc Jordan wanted lincecum
The GM’s stepped in and said “no we want rowell”
by GeoffreyA on Sep 30, 2009 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Comment from new member LIONEL TRAINS
Originally posted as a Fan Post but more appropriate here.
MELVIN OUR SAVIOR
Here we are…in the midst of a 12 GAME LOSING STREAK…and MELVIN MORON…my HARFORD neighbor is WHINING how great a citizen he has been for the last 10 years…a REAL TEAM PLAYER…FANtastic!!!
I bet you Dave Trembley was told to play this guy just to shut him up…and who told him?…not MAC PHAIL…can you say PETER THE NOT-SO-GREAT? What was the sense of playing this SELFISH player?
He should have been GONE as soon as he opened his mouth…HE will not be here next year…so why not play a JOSH BELL???
by LIONEL TRAINS on Sep 30, 2009 11:56 AM EDT
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
I attempted to decipher it
I had to read it three times, but the gist of his argument is: Mora whinned, he should have been fired immediately (?), but instead Trembley was instructed — not by Andy MacPhail, but by Peter Angelos — to play Mora in order to shut Mora up. And next year, instead of playing Mora, we should play Josh Bell. Ta-daaaa.
Well
I did have trouble reading it, and wanted to see if there was anything in there worth contemplating… all I have to say is, we’ll probably be starting Wiggy at 3rd base, right? Josh Bell isn’t ready yet, is my understanding. Unless we trade or pick up an FA. I don’t mind Wiggy at 3B, personally, at least for the short-term.
100% agree... despite unpopular opinion
Josh Bell makes me REALLY nervous defensively…
I heard he makes Wiggy look thin.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
in related developments
I’m closing on my house in waverly this afternoon, and no longer have to live up here with melvin mora and lionel trains.
You don't EVEN KNOW who O's21girl is!
by Senatorrosewater on Sep 30, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
phew
wouldn’t wanna be up near MELVIN MORON cuz hes so SELFISH.
by twistedlogic on Sep 30, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubles
I have used simple math (the only kind I know) to figure out if Brian Roberts will get to 60 doubles before the end of the season.
Brian has 56 doubles as of last night. He’s played in 154 games, so he hits a double once every 2.75 games. Or, he has had 613 at bats, so he hits a double about every 11 at bats.
The O’s have 5 games left (or around 20 at bats for Brian), and assuming Trembley doesn’t sit Brian for any of them, Brian will likely hit 2 more doubles. So the answer according to my math is: no, he will not get to 60.
Of course, my math does not account for the fact that Brian Roberts is a doubling MACHINE and he could totally hit 4 doubles in 5 days. He also has been known to slump and not hit a thing, and also to get hot and hit doubles all over the place. In conclusion, waiting to see if Brian will hit another double is one of the only reasons I’m still watching these games.
Agreed.
That, Nicky remembering how to hit again, and Matty continuing to dominate are the reasons I’m watching.
Whenever Matty gets a hit these days
I think to myself, fuck yes this is awesome, but it will be a bajillion times more awesome when we are not a craptastic team and Wieters’ glory is known throughout the land!!!!!
Wieters
is going to be a bad bad man next season.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 2:04 PM EDT reply actions
As in Wreck
Trembley’s instructions to the team remind me of an incident in Bill Veeck’s memor VEECK: AS IN WRECK. In his younger days he owned the minor-league Milwaukee Brewers and they had a very long losing streak. At the end of a game he handed each player some money, $5 I think. with the instructions that they were to spend it all on drink that night. This was in the late 40’s so that would buy a lot of booze. Anyway, the first 9 guys to drag in the next day were put in the line up and they won a double-header . So maybe Trembley did no go far enough!
Of course, I should point out that one chaper of one of Veeck’s books was titled “Where are the Drunks of Yesteryear” decrying dullness of modern players.
"Killing a Yankee fan -- is that illegal in this state?" -- Homicide Life on the Street
lol
Yep, what the MLB needs is more alcoholic players!
I can see what Trembley’s doing though… trying to get the players to relax, operating under the assumption that they’re putting too much pressure on themselves to stop sucking and break out of the losing streak. Only thing is, I don’t know if telling them to relax and take an afternoon off will change anything with this bunch.
But if anything that makes it seem like an even better idea. If you know you’re just not equiped for the battle, no sense stressing about it and running guys through unnecessary BP and defensive drills and shit before the game. Better to just play loose and see what happens I think. It’s game 158 or whatever – extra BP and shagging fly balls isn’t going to help ya.
And furthermore...
… Im sure they’ve tried about everything else. Why not give it a shot. What do we have to lose… another game?
I really don’t care if they lose their last 5, this has been depressing. That being said.
THIS IS BIRDLAND B___!
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I agree
we don’t have anything to lose, I just have the feeling we’re going to lose the game regardless. I hate being so negative about it… but there it is. Prove me wrong, Orioles! Prove me wrong!
I don't even think I can be mad at this point
Look at the lineup we’re running out there. Look at who’s in the rotation and who’s in the bullpen. Of COURSE we’ve lost twelve in a row. Maybe I’m dumb to the pain after a season’s worth of painful moments. I feel like I should be pissed. This is the one goddamn thing we were supposed to avoid this year, yet another August/September swoon and it’s worse than ever.
Okay, not worse than ever. I don’t think we’re past 4-32 to close out the season yet like 2002. But worse, compared to expectations, than ever.
Maybe it’s made a little easier because we have at least a couple of bright lights left to follow. B-Rob’s doubles chase is a delight and Wieters starting to figure everything out is one sign that there may actually be something good around the corner. But the end of the season can’t get here soon enough at this point. Please put us out of our misery.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions
By "dumb" to the pain I meant "numb"
And yes, I’m pedantic enough to make my own corrections.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Sep 30, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
All i wanted was 63 wins, and now that looks like it will be hard to come by.
One of my predictions from just after the A.S. Break was right though: MAtt Wieters will flirt with .300 at the end of the season!! Go Future. Can’t wait for 2010 and on…..
I am trying to stay positive, we’ve had way to many injuries. To save myself, I haven’t watched a game in 2 or 3 weeks. Good luck the rest of the season, and have a good time at CC night, CC.
Trying to hit off me is like trying to eat soup with chopsticks.
-Ryohei Tanaka, with AA Bowie
I cant believe
There ISNT more interest in CC night on Saturday!
Come on people, dont give up on the Orioles yet!!! At least come out and get loaded with us!
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions
I reeeaaally wish I could go
but I am MOVING this weekend… I’m taking time off this week to pack but holy crap it is difficult to pack up your entire life. But yeah I would much rather be at the Yard than frantically throwing things into boxes and figuring out how to physically move my furniture…
Oh come on!
You can sneak out for 3 hours. The more the merrier.
Grab me a 6-pack and Ill help you move.
by Wieters Wieners on Sep 30, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I live in DC
so it would be more like 6+ hours, especially if y’all are meeting up beforehand. But I also have to go to a friend’s housewarming party on Saturday night. I know, excuses excuses. I’ll go to a CC night next season!
Next year we're going to do it earlier
Before everyone has OD’d on the Orioles.
Some Day, Matt Wieters Will Make The Cooperstown Crowd Laugh By Talking About The Time He Batted Behind Melvin Mora And Luke Scott. -Keith Law via Matt Wieters Facts
i would love to come but i cant be there
tix to the caps home opener
by twistedlogic on Sep 30, 2009 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Geez, the regular NHL season starts already?
How long is the season now? 10 months?
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
yea...the caps open tomorrow nite in boston
the olympic break in the middle sorta changes the season a bit. i’m not complaining tho cuz i love hockey.
by twistedlogic on Sep 30, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's go Caps!
Go Red Jesus!
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
My expectations are somewhat more modest
I’d like to see the Islanders rebuild around Tavares & DiPietro play 60-70 games sometime BEFORE they move to KC.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
my expectations arent
everyone is saying this is the year the Devils dont make the playoffs. Im thinking deep playoff run.
pirates win baby!
but is there even a dustin ackley to get us all excited about in this class?
"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel
Here's one site's thoughts
http://www.baseballrumormill.com/2009/09/2010-mlb-draft-preview-ragira-whitson-castellanos-wolters/
Take it for what you will
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
i like the
there will be blood reference
"Chicks who dig home runs aren’t the ones who appeal to me, I think there’s sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I’d rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out."-Ichiro
by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 30, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
Yet another movie I haven't actually seen.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
Anybody watching the Nats game?
Because Tim Redding has grown Kerry King’s goatee, I don’t know if he picked up his guitar playing ability though.
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
New Slayer soon!
Although this is the first result in GIS, and I think it’s way cooler.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
new Hatebreed came out yesterday
you should probably acquire it somewhere
"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year
Just heard Jamey Jasta on XM promo'ing it...
Never been a big fan of his singing voice, though. Seems like a great guy, I just don’t like the way he sings/shouts.
Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "
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