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Leading off with some news to make you feel better about the plight of the O's:

Pirates unmoved by record 17th losing season
With the final out yesterday afternoon at PNC Park -- a Lastings Milledge flyout that ended a 4-2 flattening by the Chicago Cubs -- the once-proud Pittsburgh Baseball Club recorded its annually anticipated 82nd loss and clinched a 17th consecutive losing season, the longest such streak in the history of North America's four major professional sports.

O's won't see Dice-K | The Japan Times Online
Boston Red Sox manager Terry Francona said Sunday Daisuke Matsuzaka will make one more minor league rehab start on Wednesday before he rejoins the fold. Matsuzaka was initially supposed to re-join the rotation for the Red Sox's game against the Baltimore Orioles on Wednesday.

Streaky Roberts stays on even keel -- baltimoresun.com
Brian Roberts talks about being a leader, fans expectations, and being the old man on the team.

Wieters! - MASNsports.com
He throws harder than Pudge Rodriguez, because he's supernatural.

Vote Nick Markakis Man of the Year! | MLB.com
Nick Markakis is great and all, but man of the year? And A-Rod is also on the ballot? I don't know, man. 

Senators Wash Out Baysox in 2009 Finale - baysox.com
The Baysox lost 4-2 in their season finale, but Josh Bell hit his 9th home run in just 33 games with Bowie. 

Carroll County Times: Westminster, Maryland
"It’s a great thing for the Orioles," Frederick manager Richie Hebner said in a phone interview. "The MVP and the best pitcher in the Carolina League [both] belong to the Baltimore Orioles."

For Shorebirds, a season of developments | delmarvanow.com
"One of the goals was to teach the guys how to play the game with a winning attitude, while being a professional and representing the uniform of the Baltimore Orioles with respect and pride."

O's farmhand Avery hoping to post Carl Crawford-like numbers - Carroll County Times
"I’m striving to be a .300 hitter in the big leagues when I make it there and to steal over 50 [bases] a year," Xavier Avery said. "The Orioles are bringing up a lot of young guys, getting them ready for down the road and I want to be a part of down the road," Avery continued. "I want to be a part of that group of young guys. I’m trying to make it as fast as I can."

This is your Open Thread. 

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Y'know, I'm not very confident the Pirates would break .500 in the Venezuelan Central League.

Unless Memlo was their manager, maybe.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Sep 8, 2009 9:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kakes for man of the year?!

Obviously it should be Felix Pie. He is a great human being and works hard. If I had to guess, i’d say the people who chose the nominated players love steroids.

by daveh873 on Sep 8, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Xavier Avery

should worry about cracking .270 in the minors, then we can move onto other unrealistic expectations. Neither he nor LJ Hoes put up very good seasons at Delmarva, but luckily both are very young and “raw” at this point with much room for improvement.

by sickuvitall on Sep 8, 2009 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

slow day at CC

I feel sort of pumped for Avery, he seems like a cool dude.

"Chicks who dig home runs aren’t the ones who appeal to me, I think there’s sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I’d rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out."-Ichiro

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 8, 2009 12:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yup.. this game thread is standing room only.

Hey, should I jinx us by asking who thinks we are going to have a 3-game winning streak after tonight?

by Wieters Wieners on Sep 8, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lame open thread

"Chicks who dig home runs aren’t the ones who appeal to me, I think there’s sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I’d rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out."-Ichiro

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 8, 2009 12:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that it is

"All major leaguers can see the ball and hit it. But what separates the great ones is that they can see the ball and hit it were they want to hit it."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 8, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Official site says

Koji’s going to be in the bullpen tonight. That’s kinda cool. I’m kind of down that we don’t get to see Matsuzaka though. Maybe we could have found the chinks in the armor in the early innings.

You don't EVEN KNOW who O's21girl is!

by Senatorrosewater on Sep 8, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good afternoon everybody!

I see not too many on here today.Guess everyones busy getting back to work/school after the holiday weekend. We spent yesterday watching the Keys/Blue Rocks. I got a great picture of my boys with Caleb Joseph. Everything that has been said of him so far is true, he is very nice and I hope he gets to the big leagues. i wish his blog was still active though.

July 29th What a GREAT day for pitching! Chris Tillman makes his MLB debut, and the Phillies get Cliff Lee, who just won a Cy young Award! SWEET!

by phillybmore on Sep 8, 2009 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

awesome!

"All major leaguers can see the ball and hit it. But what separates the great ones is that they can see the ball and hit it were they want to hit it."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 8, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

For CC night when Cito walks out ot the mound

We all start chanting CITO SUCKS!!!

"All major leaguers can see the ball and hit it. But what separates the great ones is that they can see the ball and hit it were they want to hit it."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Sep 8, 2009 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou Montanez is a crybaby

http://masnsports.com/2009/09/not-so-sweet-time-for-lou.html

Felix Pie, Nolan Reimold, Luke Scott, Adam Jones, and Nick Markakis are all better than you, Lou, I suggest you deal with it.

"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2009 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'll buy it that PR asked him

guys on legitimate teams cant be playing in this stragely timed event.

and for what its worth the guy still hasn’t had a real crack at this thing. we’re putting a lot of stock into the huge three weeks that pie is having, but i’d honestly still take lou everyday in left over him, maybe pie is more valueable to have on the bench, meh, i dont know.

As for the first base situation, I’m kind of pissed that we’re not really pushing scott out there more. I’m only “lukewarm” on him anyway, I think people are finally starting to figure him out, but still, if you’re gonna try the guy out dont just run him out there every third day with wiggy and aubrey mixed in, no thanks. Wiggys gonna be taking the bulk of the starts at 3B i’d imagine next year, so why not see what we’ve got.
Obv you cant touch Nolan, but let Lou buy that 1stbasemans mitt and bring it to sarasota.

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

You’d take Lou over Pie every day? That’s crazy. Lou is not good. Even when he was doing well (briefly) he was basically a slap hitter. At least Pie has some power.

I’d be fine with him playing around in winter ball, but I’m really not expecting to ever see him regularly in any major league lineup. He doesn’t seem like a very good hitter to me.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 8, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you forgot that he's a failure as a defensive OF as well

"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not in fantasy baseball, i'd take pie

but in real life I just dont trust felix out there, i dont think either of them are really good enough though.
and is he that bad a defender?

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m confused – if you’d take Pie in fantasy (where performance is all that matters), why wouldn’t you take him in real life? Defense?? I don’t think there’s any reason to think that Pie is worse than Lou defensively.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 8, 2009 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah just intagibles

baserunning, instincts, reading the game, etc. maybe lou isn’t better, but i dont enjoy cringing every time pie and AJ or Nolan are about to converge. i just get a bad feeling.

and maybe i’m old school but from my #2 or 9 hitter/ 4th outfielder (i mean do you envision Pie eclipsing this status for us) I want someone thats gonna do ALL the little things, and Pie, try as he might, god love him, is no Eric Aybar.

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lou is no Eric Aybar

Lou is a AA player who got lucky last year, and has shown his true colors in every other stop of his career.

"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that was more directed towards felix

lou’s pretty much out of our lives now i guess

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

By little things do you mean like hitting and running and bunting? I’ll be honest I don’t really care about any of those things. I’d much rather have somebody who’s a good hitter. Also I see absolutely no reason to think that Lou would be better at those things. Pie is a much better athlete than he is and I don’t recall Lou doing any bunting.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 8, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

little things!

are not all of, but one of the biggest reasons we lose so many fucking games. and i guess i’m out of the closet now, but just watch the angels. they fucking do everything to put themselves in position to win.

granted we’ve relaxed on the suicidal baserunning some, but do you remember the first half? what about moving runners/productive outs, i wish i could see where we ranked in the league for that. is there some sort of stat kept?

little things kill us. i know thats a cliche bullshit thing to say, but i think anyone that watches this team cant argue with the fact that we dont do many little things well.

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck "productive" outs

and the big things are the bigger reason we lose, like, you know, our pitchers having an ERA around 5.00 collectively, fix that and everything else looks a lot better

"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you must have loved jay gibbons

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i liked him for the two good years he had

I just think Lou is whiny fuckwit and has been since spring training.

"I hate making excuses. If I suck, then I suck. And I suck. That's the way I'm playing. If you suck, you suck. You have to take responsibility in this game. Right now, that's the way I feel. Yes, I suck." - Jose Guillen/quote of the year

by getxstoked on Sep 8, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Angels

Also have MUCH better pitching and hitting. Little things are REALLY overrated.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 8, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know guys

when you watch so many losses you start to wonder…

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I wonder when we’ll have better players. I don’t wonder when we’ll have players who do the little things.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 8, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps they are interrelated

i’d like to think so

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Sep 8, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll take a guy who can hit some HRs like Pie

and can’t play good defense over a .267 hitter who hits singles and is average at best in the field. Yeah, I’m in the Felix-over-Lou camp. I just don’t think either should start over Nolan or Adam.

I’d rather have Adam Dunn, actually, than Felix or Lou, but that ship has sailed.

Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "

by duck on Sep 8, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also how annoying are all those commenters saying the organization screwed him?

I don’t get what they were supposed to do – bench Nolan because Lou is now healthy? Get the fuck out of here people.

by O'sFan21 on Sep 8, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on that

Nolan took the job, and Felix is taking the 4th OF job. Sorry, Lou, fate can be a pain, but ain’t no way you’re taking ABs away from any of the 4 ML OFers we have.

Jim Palmer: "I said to Nolan, 'Why do you run every ball out like that?' and he said, 'Why wouldn’t you?' "

by duck on Sep 8, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

AJ to the DL

Per Schmuck

Adam Jones has been placed on the 15-day disabled list, retroactive until Sept. 2

Earl Weaver would’ve kissed Adam Dunn on the mouth in public. - SC 08/11/08

by Stacey on Sep 8, 2009 5:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Schmuck: O's acquire Henn from Twins
The Orioles have completed a minor league deal to acquire reliever Sean Henn from the Minnesota Twins organization. Henn is a 28-year-old left-hander who appeared in 14 games for the Twins this year. He also has had major league experience with the Yankees and Padres, though none of it terribly auspicious.
His career major league stats: 2-9, 7.50 ERA in 54 appearances, five of them starts.

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 8, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

for who?

plzzzz be rich hill (or sweet lou)

by twistedlogic on Sep 8, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

come on guys

your supposed to be my entertainment during school. ;)

"Chicks who dig home runs aren’t the ones who appeal to me, I think there’s sexiness in infield hits because they require technique. I’d rather impress the chicks with my technique than with my brute strength. Then, every now and then, just to show I can do that, too, I might flirt a little by hitting one out."-Ichiro

by WestcoastO'sFan on Sep 8, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha yea i was in psych

and clearly paying attention to all that learning and habituation shit and not the open thread….

by twistedlogic on Sep 8, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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