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Past Rookie of the Year Winners....

 

So just a little something I’ve been working on about former Rookie of the Year’s, and their careers…..

 

We’re all hoping Nolan Reimold wins the AL ROY.  He seems like a dark horse candidate (at least, I don’t remember seeing much about him – just all Weiters hype), but there are a number of good rookie pitchers that might still take it.  Anyway, thinking about Reimold got me wondering what percentage of ROY winners are in the hall of fame, and just how bad of a career could someone have after winning the ROY.  First off, the good, after the jump.

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Out of 91 total ROY winners that are eligible for induction since 1947 (the 1947 and 1948 awards were not split into AL and NL categories), only 13 players have become HOF’s (side note:  Pete Rose won in 1963, but I considered him ‘ineligible’ for the purpose of this article).  That is only 14% of ROY winners.  The team with the most ROY winners who are now in the Hall is the Giants franchise, with three players, followed by a tie for second between Cincinnati and Baltimore, with two each.  8 of the NL winners and 5 of the AL winners have gone on to the Hall.  The short list:

 

NL Winners in the Hall (and their rookie year):

 

Jackie Robinson       1947

Willie Mays                1951

Frank Robinson         1956

Orlando Cepeda       1958

Willie McCovey         1959

Billy Williams             1961

Tom Seaver               1967

Johnny Bench            1968

 

AL Winners in the Hall (and their rookie year):

 

Luis Aparicio             1956

Rod Carew                1967

Carlton Fisk               1972

Eddie Murray             1977

Cal Ripken                 1982

 

If you take a look at the list of ROY winners not in the hall, you’ll find several other above average baseball players who went on to have decent careers in the majors.  That’s not the point of this article, though.  We want to look at some of the ‘flash in the pan’ (and some not even that!) type guys.  So let’s get started.

 

Harry Byrd – Philadelphia Athletics – 1952

Rookie Year stats:

15-15    3.31 ERA  228.1 IP  116 K  1.498 WHIP

Not so stellar stats – I wonder if there weren’t any other good rookies that year.  Looks like an average pitcher, maybe a good 3rd or 4th starter (B-R compares him to a name O’s fans are familiar with – Bob Milacki), but check out his stat line from the very next year:

11-20    5.51 ERA  236.2 IP  122 K  1.66 WHIP

He led the league in starts that year (37)…..also losses (20) and earned runs (145)!  He was traded to the Yankees the very next year, where he posted a decent record (9-7 2.99 ERA 1.31 WHIP), but bounced around for several years after that (split time between the O’s and the White Sox in 1955) before ending his career in 1957.  Career stats (7 seasons):

46-54  4.35 ERA  827.2 IP  381 K  1.50 WHIP

 

Joe Black – Brooklyn Dodgers – 1952

Rookie year stats:

15-4    2.15 ERA  142.1 IP  85 K  1.00 WHIP

Very nice looking line!  Interestingly, he only started 2 games that year, so those 15 wins came in relief!  He fell 8 innings short of qualifying for the ERA title that year, but he did lead the league in games finished (41).  Joe Black was the first black pitcher to win a World Series game, in 1952.  He also played for the Baltimore Elite Giants before making the switch to the Brooklyn Dodgers.  His sophomore season didn’t look so good though:

6-3    5.33 ERA  72.2 IP  42 K  1.39 WHIP

And his next season was dismal:

0-0    11.57 ERA  7 IP  3 K  2.28 WHIP

He too was out of baseball by 1957, at age 33.  Career stats (6 seasons):

30-12    3.91 ERA  414 IP  222 K  1.25 WHIP

(half of those wins were in his rookie year!)

 

 Don Schwall – Boston – 1961

Rookie year stats:

15-7    3.22 ERA  178.2 IP  91 K  1.55 WHIP

This guy beat out teamate Carl Yastrzemski for ROY honors that year!  He posted an amazing record considering he played for a team 33 games out of first place that year.  However, he came back down to earth the next year:

9-15  4.94 ERA  182.1 IP  89 K  1.65 WHIP

After that, he was traded to the Pirates and had a bit better year:

6-12    3.33 ERA  167.2 IP  86 K  1.38 WHIP

He switched to relief for the next season, and had one more good year in 1965 (2.92 ERA  77 IP), but was finished after the 1967 season at age 31.  Career stats (7 seasons):

49-48    3.72 ERA  743 IP  408 K  1.48 WHIP

 

Jim Lefebvre – Los Angeles Dodgers – 1965

Rookie year stats:

.250  136 H  12 HR  69 RBI  .369 Slg

Fairly unimpressive stats, but I guess they had to pick someone that year.  His next year was a good increase though, and it seemed to promise more to come:

.274  149 H  24 HR  74 RBI  .460 Slg

So, looked like a solid mid-range power guy, right?  His next year stats, with only 16 less games:

.261  129 H  8 HR  50 RBI  .366 Slg

It only went downhill from there.  He only hit double digits in home runs one more time, in 1971 (12), but never came close to his 1966 season.  By 1972, at age 30, he was out of the MLB.  He would go on to play four seasons in Japan, from 1973 to 1976.  Career stats (8 seasons):

.251  756 H  74 HR  404 RBI  .378 Slg

 

Mark Fidrych – Detroit Tigers – 1976

Rookie year stats:

19-9    2.34 ERA  250.1 IP  97 K  1.07 WHIP

I’m sure most of us are familiar with The Bird.  Led the league in ERA and complete games that year (24), and finished a close 2nd to Jim Palmer in the Cy Young voting.  Unfortunately, he tore his rotator cuff early in the 1977 season, and it was never properly diagnosed.  He would only last until the 1980 season, and was never the pitcher he could have been.  Career stats (5 seasons):

29-19  3.10 ERA  412.1 IP  170 K  1.20 WHIP

 

Joe Charboneau – Cleveland Indians – 1980

Rookie year stats:

.289  131 H  23 HR  87 RBI  .488 Slg

After a really good first year, he suffered a back injury, and he became the first ROY winner to be back in the minors the next year.  Extremely popular in the Cleveland area, he even had a song written about him.  However, he was out of baseball after the 1982 season after several back surgeries.  Career stats (3 seasons):

.266  172 H  29 HR  114 RBI  .393 Slg

Pat Listach – Milwaukee Brewers – 1992

Rookie year stats:

.290  168 H  1 HR  47 RBI  54 SB 

Speedster who helped Milwaukee win 92 games in 1992.  His speed seems to have dropped off considerably the next year (18 SB), and he only topped 20 stolen bases one more time (1996), before retiring after the 1997 season.  Career stats (6 seasons):

.251  444 H  5 HR  143 RBI  116 SB

           

Bob Hamelin – Kansas City Royals – 1994

Rookie year stats:

.282  88 H  24 HR  65 RBI  .599 Slg

Keep in mind he only played 101 games that year!  His production tailed off for the next few years due to leg and eye problems, but he had one more decent year with Detroit in 1997:

.270  86 H  18 HR  52 RBI  .487 Slg

He retired after the 1998 season.  Career stats (6 seasons):

.246  313 H  67 HR  209 RBI  .464 Slg

 

 Kazuhiro Sasaki – Seattle Mariners – 2000

Rookie year stats:

2-5    3.16 ERA  62.2 IP  78 K  1.16 WHIP  37 SV

A ‘rookie’ at age 32, Sasaki set the record for saves in a single season by a rookie.  He had two more dominant seasons (45 SV and 37 SV), and a mediocre one (10 SV), before deciding to head back to the Japanese leagues.  Career stats (4 seasons):

7-16    3.14 ERA  223.1 IP  242 K  1.08 WHIP  129 SV

Well that pretty much sums it up.  A large amount of the ROY players went on to have mediocre careers, and many did not even have great first years.  It just seems like many times, there wasn’t any really stand-out rookie for the league.  In a number of other cases, injury ended several promising careers.    

 

So I guess I’ve just proven what we already know:  ROY is NO guarantee of future greatness.  I was surprised to see just how few made it to the Hall, and the overall somewhat average careers of most of these players.  By no means is this list meant to be exhaustive, I just thought it would be interesting to post the results of some of the past ROY winners.  Here’s hoping Reimold (if he wins) has a much better career!

 

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hahahaha...

“most of us are familiar w/ the bird”?

-were you just trying to avoid saying, “everybody’s heard about the bird”?

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on Sep 8, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

    Peter: Oh, have you not heard? It was my understanding that everyone had heard…
    Brian: Heard what?
    Stewie: Brian, don’t! [Peter puts the record on and starts dancing and singing]

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 8, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

none of this would’ve happened if somebody hadn’t STOLEN MY FUCKING SURFIN’ BIRD RECORD

Bad Left Hook
"Well Howie, I think I'm going to stay outside and outjab him." -- Tex Cobb telling Howard Cosell how he would approach Larry Holmes

by SC on Sep 9, 2009 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Reimold should get votes if not the title

Beckham has cooled way down. Nolan now leads in BA/OBP/SLG, HR and BB, and is 2nd in RBI. He’s really the best hitter of the group. People talk about Elvis Andrus’ defense, but I’m in their blackout ‘market’ (shouldn’t be a market if you can’t drive there in 4 hours and/or they do no advertising, but I digress) so I never get to see him. I was a fan of Tulowitzki for ROY, but he could hit. I’ve heard Nolan’s defense hurts him, but I say 5 assists in 650+ innings in LF is pretty damn good.

Although most of the buzz is on pitching, where Bergy shows well, but with him being out, he doesn’t have a chance anymore. 3E and Jeff Niemann are about identical statwise, but Niemann has more starts and wins, so you know, he’s like better or something. The only other pitcher in their league is Andrew Bailey, with 22 SV for the A’s.

It’ll be an interesting vote, and guys like Beckham and Porcello will get more votes than they deserve, with no rookie on ESPN teams. Some asshat will vote for Brett Gardner.

Nice post, although I would include Pete Rose since he was an obvious lock for the HOF as a player.

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 8, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well add Pete Rose...

and it becomes 15 out of 92 eligible players. That’s 16% HOF players….

by NewYorkOriole on Sep 8, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which makes it a solid 1-in-6 chance

as opposed to only a 1-in-7 chance :)

(and a 1.5% chance of being banned)

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 9, 2009 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And of the six Oriole rookies who won....

Namely…

Ron Hansen – 1960
Curt Belfary – 1965
Al Bumbry – 1973
Eddie Murray – 1977
Cal Ripken – 1982
Gregg Olson – 1989

Two have made it to the HOF. So that gives Reimold a 33% of making it! :-p

by NewYorkOriole on Sep 9, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, those are more like the real odds

Since rookies in the last 20-25 years can’t get into the Hall just yet.

Also, it looks like we’re overdue for a ROY.

"I hate seeing Bedard go, but I think the O's may have gotten the better end of the deal" -- me, 2/8/08

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 10, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually...

I factored in the year they retired into the ‘eligible’ players. So that 91 is everyone who could potentially be inducted, not just ALL ROY winners…..

by NewYorkOriole on Sep 10, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You sure did. I can't read, apparently.

"I feel like I learned more in eight major league starts than I did in three years of college," -- Brian Matusz

by CoachOfEarl on Sep 14, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see

that Hansen and Belfary made it.

Now I can’t quite put my finger on who this Ripken fella is. And who has ever heard of Eddie Murray?

When you're born into the human race you're given a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you're given a front row seat. And some of us have notepads.-George Carlin

by Afghanistan Steve on Sep 12, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rob Neyer Post

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/sweetspot/0-5-30/Rating-AL-s-top-rookies.html

He says about Elvis Andrus, “if the voters are paying any sort of attention at all, Andrus should get a bunch of first-place votes and those other guys shouldn’t get any at all.”

The guy doesn’t look like such hot shit to me, but apparently his defense makes up for his lack of hitting or something. I haven’t been doing the best job of following these things this year.

by yurizanow on Sep 12, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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