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Corner infield situation

In a deal that makes little sense, the Giants have signed Aubrey Huff to fill in their corner infield "void".  That means they have Juan Uribe, Pablo Sandoval, Mark DeRosa, Huff, and Travis Ishikawa competing for duties at first and third.  That said, I'm sure Uribe and DeRosa make the most sense as a roving utility men, DeRosa also spending time at second and the outfield corners if needed, leaving Sandoval at third and Ishikawa on the bench.

It's a sad day when Aubrey Huff takes over for a young first baseman that outhit him last year, and it leads me to a question...

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Will we demand that Andy MacPhail pull off a similar deal next offseason if Brandon Snyder doesn't set the world on fire?

The reason I ask this question is that the Os have reached the "shit or get off the pot" stage of the rebuilding process.  They're loaded with talent that should push them into contention over the next two years.  Jones, Markakis, Wieters, and Reimhold all produced last season and Matusz, 3E, and Tillman have shown flashes of either brilliance or the ability to hold down the fort.  Now, with Snyder and Bell, the offensive prospects have essentially been spent with little left in the cupboard.

Sure, Brandon Warring could come up and become the big bat we're all hoping he, Bell, and Snyder will but who knows with prospects?  If Snyder shows up around the All-Star break and hits .270+ with loads of doubles and few homers, will MacPhail and the fan base be happy?

With all the complaining I've been hearing here and on Roch's blog, it seems they won't.  Fans want Snyder to be that guy that chose wrong last offseason (because he's a jerk) instead of a clone of Mark Grace.  They want someone who can step in, hit 30-35 homers, and help the team compete instead of what Snyder projects to be; a guy that hits around .300 with 35-40 doubles and around 15 homers.

So, the question is, what will MacPhail do if things don't work out for Snyder as they did with Ishikawa?

Hell, Ishikawa was a solid defender and hit .261/.329/.387 in 113 games at first and has been deposed by Aubery Huff, a guy passed his prime and should be coming off the bench to spell Ishikawa or Sandoval or pinch hit from time to time instead of playing first consistently.

What say ye?

(Sorry for the rambling nature of this post, I've had a long day and my head hurts)

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If Snyder becomes an Olerud clone .....

…. he would be okay with me. BUT that means he hits .300+ with 40 doubles and 15 HRs plus plays a solid defense. If Snyder hits, he will probably be about like that. IF HE HITS. I do not know about his defense, though. It’s a fairly new position for him.

Having said all that, if a 35+ HR hitter came along, I would upgrade in a flash. Some think Bell may become that masher at 3B. If so, no harm in a Grace/Olerud type hitter at 1B, but he needs to be a plus fielder.

by fuddnelson on Jan 11, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

As long as he doesn't

wear that batting helmet in the field. that always pissed me off. Not that i wanted Olerud to get hit in the head and die or anything. I just didn’t like it.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jan 11, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Rickey Henderson

Can you believe Rickey Henderson played with some guy wearing a batting helmet while playing first base twice?

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Jan 16, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd be ok with that

Ishikawa had a bad season last year getting on base less than a third of the time and not being a slugger (granted he does play half his games at AT&T). As a below-average offensive contributor he deserves to be a backup at a prime location.Snyder projects to be an average regular at first but no star. If Snyder is below-average then he’s replaceable (although I’d hope that somebody would check his BABIP to see if he’s just incredibly unlucky. As a doubles-power player he’s more susceptible to bad luck). IF we can find a player who projects to be above-average at first it would make sense to take that player over Snyder.

Also Huff makes some sense because there is a chance he can rebound offensively since the year before he won a silver slugger at DH. If he rebounds great, if not he becomes a bench player or is cut to be replaced by a below-average player in Ishikawa.

by OsandRoyals on Jan 11, 2010 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

I feel like it's ridiculous for anyone to expect Snyder to hit 30+ homers

Seeing as he hasn’t hit more than 13 at any stop in the minors. I’d be pleased if he can put up a .270+ average, hit some doubles, and maybe have 10-15 hr. That said, if MacPhail can find a better option, then I’m all for it

by Trebuchet on Jan 11, 2010 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

I think McPhail will add a corner infielder/bat before spring training starts, easily. Snyder is your prototypical AAAA player (as well as Scott Moore) and I would loved to be proven wrong. They’re not everyday pro players, and certainly not next year. Besides, aren’t they trying to make Snyder a DH? … I think McPhail is playing the corner infielder market perfectly by not going after anyone. Any of the names available would be an upgrade for the O’s (Delgado, LaRoche, Blalock, etc) so why not let the market settle itself with a few of those names coming off the list and then the O’s get a steal/deal from one of the few still standing?

by bigity b on Jan 12, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

Snyder an AAAA player?

He should be a solid MLB regular, maybe not in 2010 but beyond that.

by Jordan Tuwiner on Jan 12, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

since when is snyder your prototypical AAAA player?

dont you have to, like, actually get a shot in the majors before that happens?

by twistedlogic on Jan 13, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Seeing that’s he’s changed positions a few times at the AAA level and now is “being groomed to be a DH” tells me he’s too good for the minors but obviously not good enough to crack a major league lineup for a team that hasn’t won 80 games in years. also see: Montanez, Lou.

by bigity b on Jan 14, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Snyder is not being groomed for DH

He apparently was named the best defensive firstbaseman in his league the past year like Bell was. Besides he doesn’t have the bat to play DH

by OsandRoyals on Jan 14, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

I didn’t know about the defensive award. If he’d actually be a plus defensive 1B at the major-league level, then I’m a lot more comfortable with the idea of him sticking as a near-.300 / 15-20 HR / lots of 2B guy.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Jan 14, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but lou actually got a shot in the majors

and did nothing with that opportunity. how can you know it if you dont even try?

by twistedlogic on Jan 16, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

He got hurt

but was productive with the bat.

The man can hit.

by Dr Orpheus on Jan 17, 2010 7:37 AM EST up reply actions  

LOU MONTANEZ CAN HIT

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Jan 16, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

oxy moron

kinda like rich hill can pitch

by twistedlogic on Jan 17, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Snyder

has seemingly improved his defense so he should be at least average at first.
Without defensive skill he probably can’t hold down first but he may prove a decent but not outstanding first baseman. There’s also the outside chance that he’ll have a year like Aaron hill had this year where he hit a number of just enough homers to be one of the best second basemen

by OsandRoyals on Jan 12, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

What's up with New Aubrey?

He did pretty well last year, both in NFK and BAL. Not great, but serviceable, no? Now that LaRoche is getting signed and Delgado is “not moving well”, you have to figure he’s in the mix, and a better option that Wigginton at this point.

So we start with Atkins and Aubrey at the corners, with Wigginton hanging around, platooning, etc. Neither of these guys are going to block Bell or Snyder if/when they prove themselves ready. (I refuse to put a date on either since everyone but me seems convinced that they’ll be starting in July).

by CoachOfEarl on Jan 14, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Don't you forget about John Hughes

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew_G on Jan 14, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd certainly prefer to give him a shot

over watching Wiggy’s fat ass over there. Aubrey’s defense seems pretty good and who knows – he used to be a big prospect.

by O'sFan21 on Jan 14, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Gap hitter, solid glove

Looks like he has some plate discipline as well. New Aubrey may get the nod out of ST.

by sickuvitall on Jan 14, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

New Aubrey's Major League Performance

was the best he’s had in a while. Of course this might have been the first time he was injury free in a long time
We have a number of potential first basemen, just none that seem outstanding. Atkins, Wiggy, Aubrey and Hughes while waiting for Snyder to be ready

by OsandRoyals on Jan 14, 2010 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

We could always

TRADE FOR HUFF *snark

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

As a side note (and maybe this would be better for tomorrow’s daily post), is anyone else curious to see LaRoche sign for so little, especially after he turned down the 2 yr deal from the Giants? I mean he’s being paid what, $4.5 mil for 1 year? Really shows you how interested the O’s were in him – not.

by bigity b on Jan 14, 2010 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

LaRoche should fire his agent.

Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.

by birdman on Jan 14, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Apparently the Orioles offered him the same contract

I guess 90 loss teams can be somewhat difficult to distinguish. And yeah, he should fire his agent.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Jan 16, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure laroche didn't think he'd play enough in SF

and didn’t want to get benched - when Os begin their July swoon -- in favor of kids

and, with NL west, who knows? he could be in the postseason. it’s pretty wide open.

"Whoooooooaaa Doggie!" -- Gary Thorne

by thewaywardO on Jan 16, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

re: Giants

If Posey isn’t ready at the beginning of the season…or if the Giants just want to prevent him from attaining Super Two status…Sandoval may get some time behind the plate. That would free up innings at 3B for DeRosa and Uribe.

by sabertooth5185 on Jan 20, 2010 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

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