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Your Off-Season Deity of the Day: Matt Wieters (© Andrew Markowitz)

Hill appears headed elsewhere
If Rich Hill is ever going to get his act together it's certainly not going to be in the AL East. It looks like he'll be moving on. Godspeed, Rich Hill. We'll always have that one game that made me think you could pitch. -Stacey

Brent Allar Interview
Jordan (aka Camden Chatter ravensfan3) from Orioles Prospects interviewed 14th round draft pick Brent Allar. Sounds like a good kid. -Stacey

Countdown to Spring Training
Kate Wheeler talks to O's fans who are planning on taking the trip down to Spring Training, including friend of Camden Chat Heath from Dempsey's Army. -Stacey

aub v. memlo
the wayward o's newest O fights! -Stacey

Mets’ Beltran Has Surgery; Could Miss Start to Season - NYTimes.com
Which makes you wonder: will this make them take a harder run at Delgado? -zk

MLB committee to study expanded replay, postseason - Yahoo! Sports
The new committee of managers and execs will discuss instant replay and possibly expanding the first round of playoffs to seven games. I'd be all for that in theory because a five game series is even more of a crapshoot than a seven game series, but only if they find a way to have the WS end before the middle of November. -Stacey

Marlins agree to increase team payroll - Yahoo! Sports
This has been out there for a few days but not mentioned here to my knowledge. The Marlins and the players union have agreed that the Marlins have to stop being MLB's charity case and will increase their payroll so that they aren't pocketing the money they get from revenue sharing. -Stacey

Black And Red United - A fan blog in support of DC United
Finally, if you're a DC United fan, check out SB Nation's new blog dedicated to the team. -Stacey

Omar had this one chick pullin' guns out her Open Thread. That [stuff] was unseemly, yo.

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Say, look who's wearing Expandex. OK, you rocket scientists on the (fan-less and player-less) committee, listen up:

1. Expanding replay: duh. I’m as tired of pointing out the obvious as you are of ignoring it, so let’s just get going. You can whine later about how difficult it was.

2. Expanding the playoffs: First, return the season to 154 games; then mandate a minimum no. of doubleheaders per franchise per year (I don’t care — three, 5, something…all single-admission, of course). And you know what’ll happen? You’ll be able to have uniform 7-game playoff rounds, and without people in parkas holding up Mr. November signs.

Oh, and to make sure these two obvious improvements are implemented posthaste, I am forwarding a copy of this decree to the Office of the Commissioner.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jan 14, 2010 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

it really s an opportunity for them to return to a balanced schedule

not that they’d EVER do that.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Jan 14, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I think they will...

immediately after the NBA owners limit their season to November-April.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jan 14, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Check this link out : Perpetual Deja Vu

It sounds like a completely terrifying disorder. After 12 years, I’m sure that watching Orioles game may start to be the same old for many people…

People with the disorder actually refuse treatment because they believe they’ve tried treatment before and it doesn’t work,

http://www.world-science.net/othernews/060130_dejavufrm.htm

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 10:07 AM EST reply actions  

I can't seem to stop entering this post.

Anyway, I liked the man who “believed he could hear the same bird singing the same song in the same tree every time he went out.” I wonder if he went out to a ballpark and if the bird was, y’know, orange and black. I think we all know the song.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jan 14, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It has to be a weird life, man,.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

That's super-freaky.

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 14, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like LaRoche is off the board

MLBTR has him signing with Arizona for an undisclosed amount.

It’s looks like our options are (in no order): Snyder, Wigginton, Aubrey, Hughes, Branyan, Delgado, or moving Atkins to first and signing a third baseman.

Personally, I couldn’t care less about LaRoche because I’m staunch in thinking Snyder or Hughes should and could probably win the job out of Spring Training.

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew_G on Jan 14, 2010 10:21 AM EST reply actions  

Rich Hill

I am sorry to see him go. Based on his inerviews, he seemed like a good guy. He also had a killer curve. If he had a fastball to complement the curve, he could be a good pitcher. I hope that his physical ills are behind him. Apparently, the Os and other teams offered him the same minor league deal. Perhaps his decision to go elsewhere is an affirmation of the abundance of pitching talent that the Os have on hand. Let’s hope so.

by BaltoBen on Jan 14, 2010 10:28 AM EST reply actions  

I always thought he seemed like a jackass.

But I can’t recall any specific event. Maybe I just think that because he was a bad pitcher for my favorite team.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

OMG

It’s hilarious. That picture made me like him more than anything else he did that year. What a hoot.

I love how Matt Wieters makes holding a cat in front of his locker look dignified, though.

by Stacey on Jan 14, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I love pretty much that entire calendar

I love how all of the guys are posing with these big dogs named like, Rocky or something, except for Aubrey Huff who owns two teeny dogs named Farrah and Chloe.

Ty Wigginton really shouldn’t let people take his picture though. It’s just a bad idea.

by Stacey on Jan 14, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

Yeah Wiggy’s picture is rough.

I was a little disappointed when I first got it that not all the players are pictured with their actual pets. I mean obviously giving shelter animals some media play is great, but I thought it was pics of them with their own animals.

by O'sFan21 on Jan 14, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah that's what I thought too

which was a bummer. At least some of the guys have their own, though. Brian’s dog is adorable.

by Stacey on Jan 14, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Jan 14, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Those cats do not look happy

"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"

by Andrew_G on Jan 14, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Cats are never happy.

When they seem “happy” they are actually just devising ways to steal your soul.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jan 14, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Weren’t his brothers like twenty years older than him? Besides the awful pitching, thats what stood out to Rich Hill the most to me during his time in Baltimore.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jan 14, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

killer curve

yea….it killed the orioles quite a bit

by twistedlogic on Jan 14, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the link!

Id also love for the first round of the playoffs to become 7 games instead of 5. Makes more sense.

by Jordan Tuwiner on Jan 14, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

I'd like to eliminate that round all together.

And finish the season by Oct 15.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Top two teams in each league play each other in a seven-game series.

Or do it by two divisions per league, it don’t matter.

The Rays finished 2008 with a better record over a 162 game schedule and almost got knocked out by the Red Sox, a team that won less games over a 162 game schedule. That just about drove me over the edge.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that E supposed to be there?

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 14, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i noticed that

obviously, whoever posted that picture can’t spell. found it on a blog somewhere.

by twistedlogic on Jan 14, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you

the playoffs are so fluky in baseball that we should have a minimal amount decided in the postseason. Besides, those playoff games take so long. I watch the hell out of the regular season, but always lose interest by the time the playoffs come around.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jan 14, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

These are the guys going to the fanfest:

http://masnsports.com/2010/01/fanfest-update.html

Im most excited to see Wieters, Matusz, Tillman and Bell.

I really wish Britton was going.

Who are you most excited to see?

by Jordan Tuwiner on Jan 14, 2010 11:22 AM EST reply actions  

On Twitter Adam Jones said he had hugs to give out

I mean, I’m not going to Fan Fest, but if I were, it would be for an Adam Jones hug.

by Stacey on Jan 14, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm interested to see what the autogrpah parings are

I now I have no chance at Markickass, The Deity or BrianBob because those lines are ridiculous. I’m going to try to get one of the three’s autograph, Matusz, 3E or AJ.

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 14, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm getting Bergesen's for sure

Him and Wieters MADE the season. I wonder which scorecard Bergesen would like to sign, his first start, his amazing start against the Red Sox, or his last start (ha!)? Or Weiters, I have his first hit and his first home run.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd sign the first one

because he actually won that game and didn’t- A. have the bullpen blow it for him or B. have a hard hit ball mess up his legs.

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 14, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess in order this is my priority list

1. Bergesen (first start scorecard)
2. Pie (the cycle scorecard)
3. Wieters (first hit scorecard)
4. Roberts (I dunno, I guess a baseball?)
 
My sister is coming with me, and we’ll be splitting up because I am NOT waiting in line for Luke’s Hancock. I’m getting the season holder 10 am passes, but I don’t know if we get in the line early or if we have listen to Andy talk about the State of the Franchise, utter bullshit.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I would think the setup

would be similar to the last few at OPACY. Season ticket pass holders (such as you and me) enter at 10, choose the line we want to start in and then fill in that section of seats.

The only thing that I don’t know about is how long the player’s will be signing. The event lasts until 6 this time rather than 2, so will the player’s be spread out over the duration or all at once from 12-2?

by sickuvitall on Jan 14, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That's what I was thinking about also.

I haven’t been to fanfest since 2005, where I ran into Raffy, so I don’t really know. I waited an hour for Melmo’s autograph.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Y'know, I really hope the Sawx trade Boof Bonser.

He’s on my All-Name Team, and I really don’t like to having to loathe those guys.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Jan 14, 2010 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

Second best SS: Jeter or Ripken?

I don’t know if anyone here reads Circling The Bases. If you don’t, I recommend it. Calcaterra is an ex lawyer and wrote for Hardball Times before moving to NBC. Anyways, they’re having a debate on the second best SS of all time (with Honus Wagner assumed to be #1). Please to click and joining of the discussions:

http://bases.nbcsports.com/2010/01/whos-the-second-best-shortstop-of-all-time-jeter-or-ripken.html.php

by CoachOfEarl on Jan 14, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

Neither, Barry Larkin

Just kdding. You can see my stupid sense of humor has reared its ugly head.

Its Calvin obviously. He did for shortstops what LT(the real one) did to outside linebackers.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Jan 14, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I know this is completely irrelevant

and somewhat unnecessary to even say, but I am willing to bet that Cal could have dominated during Wagner’s era, but not so confident that Wagner’s numbers would have been the same in the modern era. Honus Wagner was playing an entirely different game, so I know the comparisons are hard to fathom.

Of course I am speaking with heavy Ripken bias…

by sickuvitall on Jan 14, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably not

Ripken: .276 .340 .447 OPS+ 112
Wagner: .327 .391 .466 OPS+ 150 (31st career)
8 batting titles, 722 SB (10), 252 3B (3), 640 2B (9), and I hear he was pretty good with the glove.

by CoachOfEarl on Jan 14, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

His point

was that baseball was MUCH easier back then. Nobody threw breaking balls (especially not splitters and sliders), you faced the same pitcher for the whole game, you were only playing against white guys, nobody threw hard, nobody worked out, etc. If you just took the 1991 version of Cal and put him in the league that Wagner played in he would absolutely destroy it.

by O'sFan21 on Jan 14, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, OK

Yeah, back then, being able to take a punch was a more important skill than being able to hit a curveball.

by CoachOfEarl on Jan 15, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

you were only playing against white guys

nice

by twistedlogic on Jan 15, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're a fan of It's Always Sunny and/or the continued haplessness of the Royals

I suggest giving this a read: http://www.royalsreview.com/2010/1/12/1201547/the-d-a-y-t-o-n-system

I wish I could think of shit like that.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jan 14, 2010 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

delgado DEL DONE

carlos delgado has surgery on his hip again today

by chuckthefan on Jan 14, 2010 4:00 PM EST reply actions  

Where did you hear that?

I can’t find that anywhere.

I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry

by Stacey on Jan 14, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

the clickr

bottom of espn news it is right after they update that beltran had surgery

by chuckthefan on Jan 14, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

there's no news of this anywhere on the web.

i think you misread what they put about carlos beltran; or they mistyped on the chyron.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Jan 15, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

So...

I was flipping through TV on my lunch in the office kitchen and I swear it looked like some soccer guys were holding what resembled a draft. Did my eyes deceive me or has the world of sport stooped this low?

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jan 14, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions  

it was a soccer draft

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 14, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

DISAGREED

It’s 2010. You can bad mouth soccer the next three years after this, but not this year.

I’m pulling for Mexico this year. I figure with the swine flue and the drug war and the the whole, you know, James K. Polk thing, rooting for Mexico in 2010 is a good idea.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Jan 14, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not knocking soccer in Mexico.

Or S. America or wherever else they want to televise it. I’m just not going to watch and since they actually do keep score ( I assume) in the “major” league I would imagine all these fragile youngsters whose parents put them in soccer to build their self-esteem instead of any other number of sports offered in the US probably aren’t going to watch either.

Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt

by BPinOK on Jan 14, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

I think I’ll continue bad mouthing soccer this year and every year going forward until it gets less boring to watch.

by O'sFan21 on Jan 14, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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