Wednesday Bird Droppings
by Camden Chat on Jan 27, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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PrintCardinals give Hill non-roster invitation - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
Rich Hill and his old time delivery are headed to St. Louis as he signed a minor league deal with an invite to spring training. -Stacey
Rockies monitor utility market, with Melvin Mora high on list
Melmo is on the Rockies' radar as a bench player who can fill in at third base as well as perhaps second and outfield. -Stacey
International League announces Hall of Fame inductees
The 2010 Int'l League HoF class includes former Orioles Bobby Grich and Don Baylor. Did you know they were back-to-back MVPs of the International League while playing for the Rochester Redwings in 1970-1971? Neither did I. -Stacey
Sarasota County to vote on Ed Smith Stadium renovation -- again | HeraldTribune.com
Another hearing is scheduled to vote on the proposed renovation of Ed Smith Stadium for the Orioles. There really is a lot of rigmarole going on regarding the O's new home, isn't there? -Stacey
Tejada is the main man
As has been mentioned, MacPhail says that Tejada is the man for 3B and wasn't signed "for a few months." More interesting to me is the blurb at the bottom where MacPhail says he is done with position players. Not that I can imagine who else he'd pick up, but at least we know. -Stacey
Paronto signs minor-league deal with Red Sox - Berkshire Eagle Online
Who knew Chad Paronto was still kicking around the minor leagues? Next you'll tell me Chris Richard is still playing! What's that? Oh... -Stacey
Leaders that go the Distance - Salem-News.Com
For reasons that I can't quite ascertain, Doug Dickerson of the Salem News is using Cal Ripken's consecutive games streak to challenge people to pursue their passion. I don't know, man, I just gather the news links. -Stacey
J.R. House eyes his next opportunity - Charleston Daily Mail
Remember when people were so excited about J.R. House? That was weird. -Stacey
Get to know Phil Wrye, Assistant GM to the Baysox
Wrye should you get to know him? Wrye not? -Stacey
Second Opinion: Yankee fan: O's fans way too rude
This is almost a year old and I just stumbled upon it by accident, but it's such a hoot that I thought I'd share with all of you. Enjoy! -Stacey
Andy MacPhail on Luke Scott - MASNSports.com
"He is the streakiest hitter I've ever been around in my life. There was a three-month stretch where he absolutely carried us. As our guys say, it doesn't matter who is on the mound, when he is going good he can hit anybody." -duck
Hall of Famer Palmer cuts McGwire some slack - Newsday.com
"I think, considering the era, it was a tough decision," Palmer said. Rest of the article is behind a pay wall, but interesting tidbit nonetheless. -duck
Lots of hot stove action as we get closer to Spring Training: the Cubs signed Xavier Nady to a one year, $3.3M deal, plus incentives; Ronnie Belliard re-upped with the Dodgers; the Padres invited 42 year old Matt Stairs to spring training; my favorite designated hitter, Jim Thome, is going to back to the AL Central with the Twins; Jon Garland and the Padres agreed to a 1 year, $4.7M contract; and Ben Sheets is finally off the market as he signed with the A's for $10M plus incentives.
AND IN OTHER NEWS...
Read Street: Previews of the Apple tablet - baltimoresun.com
"We're just hours away from the introduction of the Apple tablet, a product that will revolutionize e-readers, save newspapers, rebuild Haiti and return the Baltimore Orioles to the World Series. Or something like that." -duck
You guys. You lollygag the ball around the infield. You lollygag your way down to first. You lollygag in and out of the Open Thread. You know what that makes you? Lollygaggers!
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1970s Rochester
If you pull up the rosters for any of those old Red Wings teams, it’ll make you sick to see how much talent they had. One of the reasons the O’s traded Frank Robinson to the Dodgers in 1972 was that he was blocking Don Baylor. There was a pitcher named Mike Willis who went 9-4, 2.64 ERA in 1974…and returned to Rochester the next year. He went 14-8, 2.57 in 1975…and returned to Rochester again in 1976. The Blue Jays claimed him in the expansion draft, but he never did pan out.
Also, do yourself a favor and read the comments posted to that Yankee fan letter. Some funny stuff there.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
I read some of those comments
Especially the one from the New Yorker stationed in Baltimore. Wow. Where do New Yorkers get the hubris?
It’s funny though, I don’t live far from the city, and have a few friends that live there. Even so, they still complain about the tiniest ‘inconvenience’, and act like it’s only in NYC that they have to deal with it, no where else can it ever be nearly as difficult.
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Jan 27, 2010 8:19 AM EST up reply actions
Did You Know? The successful and productive Rochester Red Wings are no longer the O's AAA franchise because
Peter Angelos is a douchebag. ‘Course, that’s the reason for a lot of things.
Rockies: Plus, you get a baserunning coach and strategic bunting instructor!
Third Opinion: Dear Barbara C. Nickerson: Does the word ‘irony’ mean anything to you? No? OK, it means throwing batteries at opposing players and shouting obscenities at out of town visitors all game long at Yerkee Stadium. Put otherwise: blow it out your shorts.
Oh, and be sure to visit Fenway!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
They're amateurs
The New York Yankees today announced that Gerard Monagle, a long-time fan from New Jersey, will throw out the first "D" battery at the team’s home opener April 16th against the Cleveland Indians.
"This is a dream come true," said Monagle, a long-time season ticket holder. "I saw all the greats—Dwight Evans of the Red Sox, Claudell Washington of the White Sox—get pelted by fans in right field. I’m just proud to carry on a great tradition."
A "D" battery is a cylindrical electrochemical cell used to power portable devices such as flashlights and "boom boxes", and as a projectile to injure outfielders on visiting teams by New York Yankee fans. It is considered more effective than C, AA and AAA batteries, which are less capable of causing blunt trauma to the head.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
I'm really curious to see how steve jobs convinces me i need a tablet
I’m sure he’s going to, but at the moment i’m not excited about it.
I know right?
But I already have a Mac. They’re expensive so I doubt my parents will buy me another one until I go off to college.
I’m glad they finally came out with a tablet. ALL HAIL STEVE JOBS!!!!!
Good, I see the reality distortion field got you young.
by kba26 on Jan 27, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as my Kindle doesn't spontaneously ignite in flames
I think it’ll be a cool piece of tech that’ll be prohibitively expensive to everyone except silicon valley hipsters.
I think I'm talking to Comcast, then MLB Network, and then the FCC today
about how MLB Network rarely uses closed captioning. They are breaking the law, people!
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
Good for you
You are your own best advocate. And as the parent of a kid with vision difficulties, I’m with ya, fix.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Yankees fans...
I dont know if I ever told this story, but that link up there reminded me.
I was at the game this past year at new yankee stadium when Jeter got the hit to become the all time yankee’s hit leader. I stood up and took in the hilarity of it all (the insanely overblown celebration over a guy’s 2,722nd career hit, people jumping up and down and hugging in the stands, and play stopping for 5-10 minutes). Then a guy passes my gf and I (we were wearing O’s stuff) in our row and says something like “you guys have to be enjoying this at least a a bit, right?”, to which I replied" Ummm… not really". The guy was blown away and immediately wanted a fight. “If this was an Orioles all time record you’d think it was a huge deal!”. I went on to tell him that if it was the Orioles all time hits record, it would be at least over 3,000 hits and that somewhere around 50 people have more hits than Jeter. I also mentioned I dont get all that excited by team records (especially meager ones).
I guess it doesnt really lend itself to their fans being rude, but it definitely lends itself to them being pompous, self- centered asses.
ding-ding-ding
Remember, these are Knicks fans who aren’t house-broken.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Knicks fans?
Are you kidding? They’re all Lakers fans!
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
Hah, they're not even majority Knicks fans, apparently
They’re Nets fans. How pathetic is THAT?!?
http://forums.nyyfans.com/showthread.php?t=35901
’Course, that would explain a few things…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Out of a polling of 38 people...
Yankees fans are overwhelmingly Knicks fans (the ones that still follow basketball at least, which isn’t many of them).
You should have said
Yeah, I’m enjoying it because the Orioles are winning.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
what are you talking about?
jeTeR is THe bESt pLAyeR eVER! gO yaNkEEs
by twistedlogic on Jan 27, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
We LoVe CoOkInG tOo!!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I definitely would have
but we were losing at that point. Then there was a delay, so we left NY and came home just in time to watch the rest of the game and the beauty of the O’s ruining a ton of Yankee’s fans days.
ah
you know I wondered that after I hit post. I can’t really remember too much about that game other than the total ridiculousness in regards to the game.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
It was amazingly over the top
i’m glad I was there to witness it though. And by “it” I mean the total lack of perspective and idiocy of Yankees fans and their organization.
Wasn't that the game where Jeter gave a press conference while it was still going on?
And the game ended at like midnight when there was an afternoon game the next day? Girardi took out all his starters and sent them home. Talk about home field advantage.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 27, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Palmer...
It’s nice to see someone from that era not be entirely sanctimonious about steroid use. Many of the old-timers who complain about it today were popping beanies like vitamin pills back then and would have been using roids in a second if they thought it gave them an edge.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
horseshit is right
he’s just trying to clear his name so he can make that hall.
by twistedlogic on Jan 27, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
miggi will wear #9
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
by Stacey on Jan 27, 2010 12:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Will he live up to ZAUN?
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Jan 27, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
is he now MIGGI?
do we have to kneel before him?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Jan 27, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
It **IS** the Second Coming of Miggi...
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
was he followed into by four horsemen?
or at least four, errrr, uh, vitamin salesmen?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Jan 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
9 will always be Brady to me
I don’t like Miggi wearing it. I know other have worn it since, but no one very prominent (sorry ZAUN).
Since Brady left
It’s been the designated number for scrub backup catchers it seems. I was kinda hoping he’d take 6.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Players to wear 9 since Brady
Thanks to Brotz’s website
Luis Garcia OF (Apr-May 2002)
Luis Lopez IF (June 18-Oct 1, 2002) Also wore 26
Geronimo Gil C (2003; Sept 2004-2005) Also wore 17, 60
Ken Huckaby C (July 6-Aug 16, 2004)
Raul Chavez C (Apr-May 2006) Also wore 36
Danny Ardoin C (Aug 30-Sept 8, 2006)
Paul Bako C (2007)
Scott Moore IF (Mar 31-Apr 11, 2008) Also wore 43
Gregg Zaun C (Apr 6-Aug 7, 2009) Also wore 24
Michael Aubrey 1B (Aug 18, 2009-)
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Ugh, I remember Gil.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 27, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I remember thinking he was part of the O's young revival ...
.. shows how easy it was to delude myself.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
The Geronimo Gil claim to fame
In my eyes, his best moment was in a commercial. They were doing these goofy commercials for giveaway nights where players and coaches were giving stuff to one another. My favorite came at the end of one, where Dempsey walked up to Gil and handed him a lawn flamingo.
“Geronimo, I want you to have this,” said the Demper.
The camera stayed on Gil, who replied, “Dan’ you berry mah, Rick.” He then sized up his new prize, looking pleased. I still laugh my ass off.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 27, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I remembered 5 of those wore #9
Thats pretty sad on my part. The ones I remembered were Aubrey, ZAUN, Moore, Bako, and Gil.
An open question I asked elsewhere about Tejada
I read somewhere yesterday (not sure where) that Tejada got $6 million and a no-trade agreement. Anyone know if he got a no-trade agreement? Doesn’t sound like a good thing to me. IF Bell is ready in July and Tejada draws interest from someone, I would like to be able to peddle his ass out of town for a prospect. Maybe it’s just me, but didn’t we just go through this last year with Mora?
Agree
I’m following the endgadget liveblog (which just died on me), and it looks really nice, but I don’t know. It’s basically a huge iPod touch, which is cool for web browsing and watching movies. Ten hour battery life is nice. But if I’m reading a book, my Kindle DX has a 14-day battery life. Will the iPad have a special stylus and software that will allow me to annotate or write notes on the sides of things lie books and documents, etc? I just don’t see any productivity features so far. As a media device, it looks real nice. But I’m not really in the market for something like this.
ahh, but...
…if you didn’t have a kindle yet, would you buy one, or would you buy an iPad?
because i think that’s the market they’re after. all the would-be kindle buyers for this year.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Depends a lot on what the price is.
But a tablet’s been sorta Apple’s holy grail for a long time. I’m very surprised if they let this out the door without something really revolutionary.
That's gotta be coming
But when it’s all said and done, it’s still a brightly back-lit LCD screen. I don’t like reading books on screens.
Still don't understand the appeal of a Kindle
I use eReader on my iPhone, and on a Palm before that. I mean, electronic books have been out for almost a decade. Why in teh world would I want something as big as a Kindle for something I can do on my phone?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
It's the experience!
Eye fatigue and all that. I look at a screen for eight hours a day at work, and then several more hours recreationally. When it’s time to read, I don’t want to do it on a screen.
I get why some people don't want one at all
I just can’t understand people who spend $300 bucks on something that big to do something I can do on my phone for free.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I'll put up with it for $300
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
And the ability to put it in my pocket
I know….
Okay
I can be kinda weird in my reasoning when it comes to tech purchases. Or anything else for that matter.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I like Kindle for iPhone, and whatever other eReaders are out there
They’re just not for me. Maybe the problem is me. I’m just enamored with outdated technology :/
I'm still wondering why someone wants electronic books.
The old fashioned hard copy still seems to do the job sufficiently well.
(And you can stick the paperback versions in your pocket.)
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
1) ability to carry many books in a single device. I read multiple books at a time and want to be able to read whatever book I’m in the mood to read. Right now I’m halfway through about a dozen books.
2) electronic delivery – buy a book and you can start reading in seconds. Kindle and iPad and nook and the new Sony one all allow you to shop directly from the device. It’s great.
3) I can only speak to the Kindle DX, but it’s feels great in the hand, not too heavy, and I never have to worry about keeping a finger between the pages so they won’t flip shut. It’s just a very comfortable way to read without worrying about anything except maybe spilling coffee on it, but that’s the same as with paper.
Saving SPACE baby!
And organization. Plus as someone who has to read academic journal articles regularly, the ability to save these articles and organize them is very appealing.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
not to mention search them quickly.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Kos was yammering away a while back
about how he’s all into Kindle because he’s not into “dead trees”. Uh huh. So I suppose there will be NO paper versions of his books at all, yes?
Now he’s not too bad on the issues and he’s very good on strategy (he knew Obama shutting out Dean in favour of Emanual was a mistake long before anyone else did).
But on the Schilling Scale of Self Righteousness he’s about an 8.5 of 10.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
There are no shortages of trees.
At least not for paper pulp.
Of course there are no shortages of polar bears either, but people are forking over money in the belief there is.
And remember the hole in the ozone that everyone was so worried about a few years ago? The one which allowed an increase in solar radiation (primarily uv) equivilent to the increase a person would expereince moving from Minneapolis to New Orleans. I just heard yesterday from someone who aid they heard a report that it may now provide certain benefits. Must be like salt – it’s good. No it isn’t. Wait, it isn’t all that bad. In fact it is pretty good. Uh, wait a minute, it’s now bad again.
(My apologies for the off topic rambling.)
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
dude...
do you really believe this????
On the other hand, the fact that you “heard from someone who said they heard a report” is awfully convincing….
(goes to pop the popcorn)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Jan 27, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you back yet?
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
There is actually a lot evidence that some amount of responsible logging is actually good for the environment
The rest of it i’m skeptical about.
Some and responsible are the key words there.
As far as you being skeptical about the rest of it, I just hope you read the evidence that’s out there and don’t just go based on headlines, rumors, and reports that somebody may or may not have heard of or actually read.
Any discussion on logging first requires one ...
… to establish the boundries on what is being discussed.
Is the topic maintenance of species and habitat? Is it sustainable harvesting? Are we talking about impacts to watersheds (erosion & landslides, water quality, etc)?
If the subject is simply there not being enough trees to harvest, the answer is not true. It is particularly not true when it comes to providing pulpwood for paper mills.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Really believe what?
That there are no shortage of trees?
That there are no shortages of polar bears?
That the threat posed by the ozone hole was greatly overblown?
Yes to all three. I live in the Pacific NW and there is no shortage of trees available. They have been planting more acreage than they harvest for some time now.
I also looked into the diminishing polar bear population issue. All one has to do is check out the same research studies organizations like WWF reference to see that claims for the polar bear to go extinct are greatly over stated. (The first thing researchers say is that they don’t really know how many polar bears there are and that they can only present data on those populations they do know about.)
As for the ozone hole, when was the last time you saw anyone talking about what an ecological diasater it is? (Plus I took both Atmospheric Physics and Atmospheric Chemistry in grad school and probably have an understanding of the subject that’s at least slightly better than the average person and almost certainly better than most journalists you will run into.)
Have you ever asked yourself why so many things are presented to us as a “crisis”.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Ok...I'm trying to stay calm...
The fact that YOU live in a place where there is not shortage of trees available (at the moment) is NOT an indication that there is no global shortage of trees or that no damage is being done by excessive logging.
As far as polar bears, not sure what more evidence you were looking for because that’s how populations are studied. It’s a generally accepted statistical method to study observable portions of a broader population and make educated guesses about what the trends within that benchmark population tell you about what’s happening to the broader population.
As far as the ozone, I know next to nothing about it except that many people who know a hell of a lot more about it than me seem to think that there was/is enough of a problem to change the products that we use in our daily lives, so I’m inclined to believe them. And perhaps the reason that it hasn’t been mentioned as much recently is that there are much more pressing environmental problems?
I don’t know what your definition of crisis is or what has been presented to us as a crisis that isn’t a crisis.
Nice that you are trying ... to stay calm that is.
To begin with, my original comment was in reference to books and printed material (i.e. paper products) and the concept of not wanting to kill trees. There is no shortage of harvestable trees in this country for that purpose. This is with current practices and regulations in effect. (The US Forest Service is leading the way in many instances on the development of sustainable havest practices and the majority of timber companies are both privately owned and and cut on property they own – meaning they are highly incented toward adopting sustainable practices.
Nowhere did I say anything about deforestation. The entire world could move to a paperless society tomorrow and it would have almost zero impact on deforestation.
Regarding the polar bears – we can move past the fact that they don’t know how many there are and address your point. Have you looked at the results of the research data? I’ll have to go find the link again, but here is what the scientists own data reported – a percentage of the population groups that they new about appeared to be experiencing a decline in numbers. Another percentage appeared to have no change. And a third percentage appeared to be increasing in numbers. I’ll come back and post the link, but I believe the percentages were about 20% in decline, 20% expanding and 50% with no change. Call me retarded – strike that, as some people don’t like the term – call me scientifically challenged, but I have a hard time concluding that the planet is going to be short on polar bears anytime soon from those numbers.
On ozone – I’m probably one of those people who know more about it than you do, yet I don’t think it is quite the problem it was made out to be. It is entirely possible that one of the reasons most governments pushed for banning CFC’s was because they were led to believe it was in fact a crisis. I will point out that the move to ban them didn’t pick up momentum until some of the big chemical companies found replacement products. Take from that what you will.
Out of curiousity, do you happen to know where the hole is? I’ll tell you that it did not turn up where all the scientists predicted. They also couldn’t explain why it showed up where it did, once they found it. (That part may no longer be applicable. It’s been a few years since I paid close attention to the science.)
One probably unintended benefit from banning CFC’s is their impact as a greenhouse gas. At the time few people were concerned about that aspect of the compounds. Then, as now, everyone was focused on CO2 and to a slightly lesser extent methane. CFC’s were seen primarily in relation to their ozone destroying effect. However there is good reason to believe that CFC’s are far more important with regard to their impact on global warmning than CO2.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Agreed that you weren’t talking about the other impacts of deforestation, but I think that’s a pretty simple way of looking at it.
As far as the polar bears I’ve never seen the study that you’re talking about or read anything convincing that the threat to their species is not significant.
What difference does it make where the hole is as long as it’s there and it’s causing the problems they thought it was (again I’ve read nothing to indicate otherwise, but would be happy to do so)?
I think deforestation in certain parts of the world ...
… is a very serious issue. I’ll even agree that the impacts extend beyond the areas where it is occuring. That just wasn’t the topic being discussed.
I’ll find a link to the polar bear study for you.
Where something occurs can make a huge difference or none at all. In this case it is occuring over Antartica. With the exception of a few scientists and a bunch of penguins, I don’t believe it is effecting anyone. As for problems it is causing – it is rather difficult to prove a negative. I’m saying that it isn’t causing significant problem. If you believe otherwise, then express what problems you think are being caused. One will do.
To bring this back to the start – you gave the impression in your opening comment that anyone who believed as I did one these three topics had to be either ignorant or naive. I don’t believe you have shown that either applies.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
I’ll check out the polar bear study when you send it, but after some google searching just now I didn’t find anything remotely convincing (including a Fox News piece of all sources of journalism confirming the threat to polar bears and other species – color me shocked) to debunk the threat to polar bears.
Again I’m not up to speed on the ozone hole, but isn’t the thought that it being over antarctica will result in ice melting which causes a whole host of problems (water levels rising, loss of fresh water sources, changing of ecosystems, threats to species that live and hunt on the ice, threats of species expanding that are currently controlled by species that live on the ice, etc) associated with that?
I'm quickly getting to the point where I'm
exhausting my knowledge level without going back and pulling my text book and notes off the shelf, but as I remember, the primary impact of a reduced concentration in ozone levels at high altitudes is increased ultra violet radiation exposure. The biggest concern was increases in skin cancer. I do not believe higher uv levels at surface level have any effect on temperature.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Ah I could be wrong here – as I said I have no clue about most of the actual science here, but I assumed that the hole allowed more heat (from the sun) into the atmosphere. Although to be perfectly honest I would be a little confused why the hole wouldn’t also help release some of the carbon and resulting heat…
I'm going to have to look for the story I referred to in passing earlier.
I’m curious about how it could be working as a positive effect. Specifically, what mechanism they think is at work.
Speaking of mechanisms, next time someone brings up the subject of climate change, as them to explain the mechanism at work which makes a compound a greenhouse gas. If you don’t hear anything about incidence (or maybe spectrum or bandwidth), then there is a good chance the individual doesn’t know the science.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
No
I had to TA an entire unit on this crap for two semesters, which I hated and consequently forget most of the specifics. But:
Ozone molecules scatter UV rays. UV rays hit the stratospheric ozone (O3) and crack it into O2 and O, and then the O is free to form into O2 with another stray O, or back into O3 with another O2.
All I had to do was hit up google to get a quick refresher. Can’t you do a little research before you pop off and argue about stuff you know nothing about?
Everyone's calm
A little rigor would help you avoid putting your foot in your mouth, or at the very least would help to inform your opinions so that you’d be able to hold an actual conversation.
Dude
Keep with the personal attacks, but read where I said I didn’t know the science. We were having a perfectly friendly discussion until you had to jump in with your “don’t pop off” and “put your foot in your mouth” bullshit. It was a friendly fucking discussion until you jumped in with your totally unnecessary personal attacks.
Personal attacks?
What are you talking about? Do you really find what I said offensive? I’m just genuinely confused as to why you mercilessly argue about subjects that you don’t even do the most cursory amount of research on. I said to you what someone would say to you if you broached the topic in an actual discussion and were similarly ill-prepared to discuss specifics.
It's not that I find them offensive
I just find them totally unnecessary. We were having a normal discussion and then you come barging in telling me not to pop off and not to put my foot in my mouth. I freely admitted that I didn’t understand the science, so why come in attacking like that? Why not just share your knowledge in a non-confrontational manner and further the discussion? I’ve never ever been told in an “actual discussion” as you say “not to pop off”…
Well
Since you indicated that you had to make an effort to keep yourself calm, maybe people are afraid of getting punched and don’t want to actually share their thoughts and opinions and have an actual conversation. Or maybe you only talk to like-minded folks and have never been confronted with someone who thinks differently. Do you understand how confrontational your own comments are?
dude…
do you really believe this????
Instead of saying “I disagree and here’s why source source source,” you basically roll your eyes and laugh. So forgive me if I don’t feel too bad for calling ’em like I see ’em sometimes.
I'm going to sleep.
And I’ve had a bit to drink so apologies if I was snappy, but I really get annoyed when random people who weren’t part of the conversation (and so have no reason to be pissed) just chime in and attack one side or the other. Like I said, I freely I admitted that I didn’t know shit about the topic that you attacked me for, so you could have just shared what you knew.
everyone's a part of the conversation
I think of Camden Chat like a giant room. Everyone is seated, facing each other, and everyone can hear everything that is said. Some people talk, some respond, but always everyone is listening and has the ability to chime in when they feel it is appropriate to do so. And I did share what I knew (ie what I could remember that could be substantiated by the google). No one is pissed – I was just curious why you would enter an argument completely disarmed, and I’m even further surprised at your reaction to being called on it. I guess I added the snark to ensure a reply, I don’t know. I guess I should apologize for that. But then again, since it was ground that you tread on consistently, I didn’t think you’d be that offended by it.
Sure everyone's part of the broader conversation
but you were not involved in this so I don’t see why you had to react so angrily (if you weren’t angry you sure seemed angry). And I didn’t enter an argument about the ozone layer, so obviously I didn’t enter an argument “so unprepared.” It was a discussion that evolved into talking about the hole in the ozone layer and as I’ve said probably 20 times already I freely admitted that I didn’t know about the science.
I wasn't angry
Sorry if you thought so. When did you enter the conversation? Did you start the thread? Did you know that this entire thread evolved from a series of exchanges between kba and myself? These are all responses to a comment I made way up there.
You entered the conversation when you read something you disagreed with. I re-entered the conversation when I felt I could both add substance to the topic at hand, as well as take issue with the way it was being discussed. You do not get to choose who discusses something with you – anyone can hit the reply button.
The discussion I entered
was NOT about the topic that you attacked me for not knowing about. It was about polar bears and deforestation.
I don’t give a shit who discusses what with who, but I didn’t see any reason for you enter (or re-enter) the discussion so angrily.
Again, not angry
and again, apologies. But trust that I will continue to enter any and all conversations that interest me, regardless of who is participating. And your understanding of my reasons is not required.
Didn't ask for reasons
just asked for you to tone it down a little bit.
And also I asked for you to fucking say it in english since I don’t speak science.
i've got my pants off
how does that fit into this?
by twistedlogic on Jan 28, 2010 7:19 AM EST up reply actions
TMI
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Unless we see the photos ...
… we don’t believe it.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Based on what I've seen so far
(and this is assuming they will still announce some sort of itunes-type book store later today)
I would still buy a Kindle (or ask for one as a gift, like I did with the Kindle). I am a reader – I’m one of those people who has a stack of twenty unread books in a pile next to my bed. Now I have most of them on my kindle (still unread).
I’m also somewhat of a bilbiophile – I like the look and feel of books. The look of paper is replicated on the Kindle satisfactorily – no backlight, no screen glare (or very little), and now with the ability to change font and easily look up definitions of words.
The Apple Tablet looks like a nice media device, but my Kindle is for books and books only. And I like it that way.
That's the thing with me
I really, really like books. Like, hold in my hand, feel the pages, books. I don’t like letting books pile up around my house. If it’s a book I love it goes on the bookshelf, otherwise it gets donated to the Baltimore Book Thing, but I just love books. I’ve considered getting a Kindle but have held off because I’m afraid I’ll miss books too much.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I like books too.
but on a public transportation commute, I love the idea of having a couple of different books, and the latest New Yorker, and the NY Times, and the Complete Works of William Shakespeare in my bag at all times, but weighing next to nothing. I’d still keep real books on my bedside table though.
Currently reading: Agincourt by Bernard Cornwell. I’m a sucker for well-written historical fiction.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
The first book I read on my Kindle
Was Sharpe’s Rifles, followed by Sharpe’s Eagle. I’m halfway through Sharpe’s Gold, but it’s gotten a little slow and I’ve started reading other stuff. Right now, I’m reading “No.1 Ladies Detective Agency” and “Nelson’s Trafalgar,” which is an awesomely written narrative of not only the battle, but what life was like for the respective navies and citizens of that time period as a whole. It’s just awesome.
Yeah I get the convenience factor for sure
I’m just hesitant about it. Clinging to what I know, I suppose.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I, like Stacy am a book lover.
But you make a good point. E-devices do present options one may not easily have otherwise.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Quality author
Haven’t read that one yet, but I’ve just started The Burning Land, book 5 of Cornwell’s Saxon series, set in the time of Alfred the Great.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
I use eReader for the iPhone
and have been able to put books I bought for my Palm five years ago on it. I’ve got the entire NIV Bible, a quotes compilation to use at school, “Truman”, which I am currently reading, and a few others. All on my phone. Not something that needs to go in a bag, but my pocket. I know the screen size if small, but the convenience factor more than makes up for it.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Since we are on what we are currently reading ...
I’m a more than half way through “At Dawn We Slept”. Can’t explain why a UofM history grad is only getting to this one at this late date.
I am almost finished with a Harry Turtledove story “The United States of Atlantis”. I’m hooked on alternative history.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
About piles of books
I’m somewhat of a hoarder, because I don’t like to give away books on the off chance I’ll either want to re-read them or look up a specific passage later on. But now that I have a Kindle, I think I could easily unload most of my books (not all of them, since some are not available on the Kindle yet). I think you’ve inspired me to look seriously into donating my books, maybe as soon as this weekend.
I'm at a point
where I’m trying to keep myself from hoarding books. I mean, it’s totally irrational, how many times am I going to reread The Once and Future King? But yet, I’m completely unwilling to move it from my bookshelf.
I’m pretty sure I’d be happy enough with a library card and maybe a dozen owned books, just because those are my absolute favorites…but I just can’t bring myself to get rid of them. It’s terrible. I’m running out of room because of all the books, dvds, and video games I’ve hoarded.
But I’m not switching to the kindle, and I’ll probably keep on buying dvds like mad, too. I just like the way a full bookshelf looks. I need help.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
I don't even have a proper bookshelf
which I’m kind of glad for, because I definitely wouldn’t give away any books if I had a nice bookshelf. I’d want to keep a collection that intimately defined me as a person, and that anyone who would walk in to my house and looked at my bookshelf would be able to see what kind of person I was just by the books I read. So I totally understand your desire to keep all your books and movies.
Hoarding books? So that's what they call what I do.
I have a hard time parting with any book. Including text books.
On the other hand, I am re-readiing a lot of them. My wife has me on a budget. One result is a curtailment in the number of new (and used) books I’m buying. I’m managing that by going back through my shelves. One drawback is my memory. I tend to remember stories long after I’ve finished them.
Another result is my wine cellar is diminishing rapidly. My wife doesn’t understand that you have to continually replenish it. She keeps telling me that I shouldn’t be spending money on wine when I have several cases worth downstairs.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
lol
steve jobs needs to invent “self replenishing wine” next.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
i like the idea of passing books on.
letting them be of use to more than one person. and i also love it when people pass books on to me.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
the screen caps of book reading look great
not overly bright. not too different from reading an actual page.
i can see how this thing would take off. much lighter than a laptop, you can take it anywhere. i wonder how they’re going to price it.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
As an entertainment/internet/media appliance
It really looks great. The eBook software and interface also looks really nice, and will be great for those who don’t mind reading books on their pc or iphone. The rest (ie games, iWork, etc) seem disappointing to me, because I’m not sure who would want to do any sort of major work on this thing. I guess I’ll have to try it to believe it, but I really think that the sans-stylus paradigm that apple is running with is a bit shortsighted, especially on something like this. What if I could just swipe from the left side to open notes and jot down shit as I read/browsed/worked, and then had those notes sync in the cloud and connected to other works? That just seems like a natural ability that a tablet should have. Kind of surprised that we’re moving forward into a world where this won’t happen. I guess if the keyboard works well enough, it’ll be moot, but I’ll have to try it out to believe it.
i'd think there will be an app that lets you handwrite notes
given the touchscren capability. how hard could that be? i think there’s something similar for the iphone already.
no doubt that eventually there will be something like graffiti on the palm platform wehre you handwrite and it OCR’s it into a text file. plus, there’s stuff where you cna talk to it and it transcribes.
i agree that iWork is nothing to care about.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Write notes with your finger?
I know you can already do that on the iPhone, but I’m just trying to jot down fake notes on my desk here with my finger and I’m really not feeling it.
i can't imagine it wuld be difficult to get used to with that much real estate
when the palm came out, there was a learning curve for graffiti, but it was pretty quick. i htink this would be similar.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
but then again, i hated always having to use the stylus for palm
eventually i got to the point where i used my finger for half the stuff. same thing when i do an ATM purchase at a supermarket. i always just use my finger.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Did graffiti actually catch on?
It’s a little before my time, but I can’t imagine using it today for anything other than a few words. Same with using my finger. Signing a name, jotting down a few words – finger is fine, I guess. But if we’re getting into sentences, using my finger would get old. Also, when I take notes, I like to draw little diagrams and sketches to help underscore important things or to solidify abstract concepts – I’ve been doing this with pen/pencil forever. I understand that what’s best for me isn’t best for everyone, but I don’t want to be doing that sort of thing with a finger.
hmmm.
well then, not hard to see that someone will develop a stylus for this for folks like you. just maybe not apple.
i used graffiti when i wanted to get a note down quickly on my paml. i was able to graffiti much faster than i could type.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
yeah, they keep saying "isn't it AMAZING"?
it’s cool. i don’t know that it’s revolutionary.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
magic is all around us. all you have to do is look.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
it's all an illusion!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Jan 27, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Pricing seems a little high to me
Would certainly want a 3G model, and 16GB is not a lot of space. $729 or 829 in my mind is too much for what that does.
1st gen
those prices will drop, just like the iphone
I think it’s a bit of a kindle-killer. the 9" kindle is $489, and this is $10 more? who would buy the 9" kindle after this?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
also,
we need a new site: iPadFacts.com
“the iPad will end world hunger.”
“the iPad gets 280 miles to the gallon.”
“the iPad stops NYC quarterbacks from being whiny cryababies.”
KIDDING, dave!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
iPad will play 3B for the Orioles and no one will complain...
Sorry, I just had to bring it back to Miggi….
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
But can it hit?
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Uh-huh
I dunno if the “NYC” was an attempt at a 2 for 1 jab, but it was well played regardless. He’s a NJ QB, via NOLA and Ole Miss. He even lives in Hoboken. Nothing about him is NYC.
sick of the apple hype
Apple makes great products. No doubt. But I can’t stand all of their hype. I almost bought a macbook pro but I decided to go with a Sony Vaio. So far so good, although I had some trouble turning it on (I couldn’t find the power button!).
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I was messing around on
my Yankee-loving girlfriend’s gateway a bunch of months ago (since she’s gone all apple since then) and I kept pushing the gateway symbol to turn it on, because it looks just like the I/O universal power symbol. That annoyed the living shit out of me.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
I kept pushing the VAIO button to turn my notebook on! I called sony support and the support person told me the same thing. Then she did some looking around and told to me look on the side.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
It really is like a cult.
I thought the same way until bought one. And now i watch every new product announcement.
I just watch their gadgety announcements
The announcement for the original iPhone was an incredible experience that left me giddy, because it was unlike anything that anyone had ever seen or imagined could exist in January, 2007. That was around the time that Verizon was pushing the enV as a device that everyone was “envious” of, and then the iPhone comes along and just kills it. Destroys it.
I wish that the tablet had instilled the same sort of excitement within me. Not even close.
Yeah, i had much higher expectations
For as long as talk of a tablet has been swirling around Apple, i didnt think they would release something that wasnt really groundbreaking in at least some manner.
the iphone
was truly kick ass. But I think the competition is catching up. I have a android phone and I think it’s on par with the iphone. The android app market is not as big as Apple but it’s still pretty damn good.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
yeah, this is like the launch of Apple TV
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Thats the comparison i kept coming back to throughout the whole thing
I dont think it’ll be a total bust, but i could see it going the way of the apple tv, where they just ignore it and pretend it doesnt exist.
oh i think there will be a market for it.
much more than for Apple TV.
But I don’t think it will be a new market. I think the iPad will cannibalize some of Apple’s laptop sales.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Oh most definitely
Why spend 1500 dollars when you can get iPad for 500? Especially if you can do a reasonable amount of spreadsheeting or coding or what-have-you on it?
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
Eh
Spreadsheeting, on what exactly? Coding, on a touchscreen?
I really don’t get this device. It’s an giant iphone that’s not a phone. Who wants this, people who really want to be able to run iphone apps without an ATT contract? People who hate PCs and want to surf some of the web?
people who want really, really portable email/web/videos at a decent resolution
That said,
hahahahaha:
Frantic Steve Jobs Stays Up All Night Designing Apple Tablet
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
That's awesome
but I still don’t get it. I guess the 3G is the thing, mobile access and all. But if I wanted a computer that couldn’t run flash, I’d install Slackware 6 on it.
WHODAT WHODAT WHODAT
Most people laughed when this came out:
Because it’s $599 for a 120GB 3G-enabled netbook. But at $600, it’s cheaper than the 16GB 3G iPad and does a million things better. Put next to the iPad, the Booklet 3G looks like an incredible bargain.
except it weighs nearly 3 pounds
and it runs Windows.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Both are good points
but depending on who you are, when you’re in the same ballpark price-wise (and it can be argued that the Booklet 3G compares directly to the most expensive iPad), those concerns aren’t deal breakers, or even of much consequence at all. But if you’re not a Windows person, I can see why a netbook like this would be anathema.
Some tech blog pundit wrote that the iPad is designed for iPhone/iPod touch users first and foremost – they already love the iPhone OS and sometimes wish that the screen was bigger. Well, here it is. Now, will anyone pay for it? A lot of analysts say yes, but we’ll see. I think probably yes, but not to the same extent as the iPhone.
It's something I'd like to have.
But it’s hardly necessary. I could see myself getting one in a couple of years. Not now. Particularly since I just got a new MacBook Pro for the first time in 5 years.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I think it's a nice alternative to a netbook
I had been thinking about buying a netbook, and this almost looks like a better alternative for what I would have used a netbook for – web browsing, movies, stuff like that. But no flash in the browser is almost a deal-breaker in itself, and if I can’t install programs that exist outside of the app store… I don’t know. Just not feeling it yet, especially not at $499.
You can get a 10.1" screen netbook
for about $150 cheaper. And it will actually run a lot of Windows apps and will have a built-in USB input. Probably 3 of them.
Got my wife a netbook for her birthday and she can’t believe how much she uses it. Mostly just for watching QVC’s live feed when all the TVs are used….
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Can anyone with an ESPN insider account say where the O's ranked...
…in Keith Law’s organizational rankings?
I know we can’t post the content, but we can post the number, right?
Ranked #6
very short blurb
6. Baltimore Orioles
A top-10 system despite the graduations of Matt Wieters and Chris Tillman as well as several lower-tier young arms speaks volumes about the organization’s turnaround under GM Andy MacPhail and scouting director Joe Jordan.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Sweet, in the top 10 baby, even without Matty
I was wondering this earlier — knew I’d find the answer on CC… eventually… after scrolling past all the stuff above! My 2 cents… I generally have a paperback book in my purse. I don’t like change and am horrible with new technology.
I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is a BASEBALL blog, not a books and Apple products blog!
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 27, 2010 3:52 PM EST reply actions
O's DFA Sarfate to make room for Miggi
http://masnsports.com/2010/01/the-corresponding-roster-move.html
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I'm going to draw a warm bath and clean a steak knife
and then I’ll be ready to watch the forthcoming interview with Dennis
Eh, Sarfate was gone
as soon as Gonzalez was signed.
"I like baseball, movies, good clothes, whiskey, fast cars ... and you. What else you need to know?"
Sorry, I missed this
and FP’d a FanShot. Whoops!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Whoever picks the group for the Super Bowl halftime shows needs to realize something.
You need to get bands that interest the “young crowd.” The last few acts were popular in 60’s (The Who) the 70’s and the 80’s (Prince, Tom Petty and Springsteen) Since Janet Jackson had an um…wardrobe malfunction, the NFL had been so conservative it’s jaw dropping. This year’s The Who are a great band, I’m not saying they’re bad, but give me a break, does anyone under 30 really know who they are? Before the malfunction the NFl had ligit bands, U2 in ‘02 comes to mind. They really should get back to that, see if Coldplay’s interested, perhaps the Black Eyed Peas. I don’t really care, but please have bands form this genration.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 27, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions
I dunno
The Who is “safe” and still appeals to a large majority of the NFL audience, aka 25-60 year old white dudes. Sounds like a win-win for the NFL.
Make that 40-60 y.o. white dude
I doubt seriously many 25 year olds can name 5 The Who songs.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
i'm 22
and can name quite a bit more than 5 Who songs. in fact, i kinda like them
by twistedlogic on Jan 27, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
damn it
We have to stop agreeing. I’ve seen them in concert a handful of times and they never disappoint. My parents had me wearing a Tommy shirt in the 3rd grade.
magic bus was playing on my shuffle while i was reading the comments on this thread
coincidence? i think not!
by twistedlogic on Jan 27, 2010 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
see below.
zknower thinks I’m blowing sweet nothings into his ear.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Whether you care or not ...
… you continue to make a positive impression as someone wise beyond their years.
Me, I just seem to be transistioning from smartass to dumb old fuck.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
no, i think to smart old fuck :)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I meant that to be a reply to twisted.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
But I'm ok with saying you are a smart old fuck.
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
who you callin' OLD?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
twenty two as well
Quadrophenia most def in my top ten albums of all time.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Yes, people under 30 know who The Who are
but I tend to agree with you somewhat. I enjoyed Petty, but it really has been kinda dull, though I dont know if I really want to see Jay-Z, the annoying new guy from American Idol, or some of the craptastic stuff that currently passes for music at half time either. Classic rock kinda has the most widespread appeal while generally being tame enough for everyone. Unfortunately, most classic rock bands are really old and shells of themselves at this point.
The Who are a great band, I’m not saying they’re bad, but give me a break, does anyone under 30 really know who they are?
Please shoot me now.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
also,
You need to get bands that interest the "young crowd."
Why? Who gives a fuck about the “young crowd”? Just because you all buy video games doesn’t mean you’re going to buy season tickets tomorrow. And nobody decides to follow a sport because of who plays its halftime shows.
The majority of season ticket holders are guys above the age of 30. I’m fine with us being thrown a bone.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I'd rather have Metallica myself....
but that’s just me.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
A thousand times this...
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
The Super Bowl
It’s basically football for people who don’t like football.
It’s all about dogs, horses & frogs telling me what beer to drink & repulsive, drooling infants telling me how to invest.
Here’s a half-time show for you – a marching band getting on to the field, playing & gettin the hell off in 15 minutes.
And I’m rather partial to the Who myself, just not in that setting. If you can’t name 5 of their songs, learn your history, boy!
Too bad John Entwistle is no longer with us, as the audience will be deprived of “Boris the Spider”, “Whiskey Man” and “Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde”.
Hurm, Pete & Roger need a rhythm section while Paul & Ringo need a lead guitarist & a front man…
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Jan 27, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
especially for
It’s all about dogs, horses & frogs telling me what beer to drink & repulsive, drooling infants telling me how to invest.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
"Its basically football for people who don't like football"
Couldn’t have said it better myself. I watched every game the NFL played this year, but I may be out of the country for the Super Bowl, and if I did miss it, I don’t think I’d be that disappointed.
Don’t forget ‘My Wife’, another great John Entwhistle written tune.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
haha
well played.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Paul McCartney is old and was still a great choice
The entire crowd singing the “Na na na na” part of Hey Jude along with him – that was pretty classic stuff. Even for people in their 20s, because I can tell you that was pretty well-received among my friends.
You gotta be timeless already to get in to the halftime show (OK, I don’t know how that explains Tom Petty or the infamous Janet Jackson/Timberlake moment). Coldplay? Get that weak shit out of my house.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 27, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Tom Petty is actually pretty damned timeless.
Seriously, the dude has had chart-topping hits going on three decades now. He’s like Rod Stewart. He’s also one of the most revolutionary and influential music-video guys.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
i didn't mean they are similar talent-wise.
my point was that they’re both prolific.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I was not much of a Rod Stewart fan ...
… until I saw him in concert. I went because Blue Oyster Cult was opening for him. As much of a Cult fanatic that I was (and their performance was great that night) Stewart came out and blew them away. One of the best performances I’ve ever seen.
These days I don’t go to concerts in big arenas. And when I do, it’s for the likes of seeing Michael Bouble. (It’s my birthday present to my wife. Not so much the ticket, but the fact I’m going with her.)
Clarence, It's better to have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.
Maggie, I wish I'd never seen your face
I’ll get on back home one of these days o/~
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 27, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
Great minds think alike. :)
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 28, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions
I love Tom Petty.
I told my friend to watch the halftime show that year, and she was hooked. If you like Tom Petty, the Traveling Wilburys are amazing. Roy Orbison, Steve Winwood, George Harrison, Tom Petty, and Bob Dylan. It doesn’t get any better than that.
Anybody under 30
with parents with respectable taste in music knows who The Who are.
Coldplay?? Black Eyed Peas? fuck that.
by O'sFan21 on Jan 27, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Coldplay isn't THAT bad.
I won’t buy their music, but I wouldn’t shut off the radio if a song of theirs came on. The Black Eyed Peas are awful, though. More formulaic pop crap.
The Who are the shit.
Yeah, Coldplay IS that bad
But then again…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
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