How Did You Find CC?
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 30, 2010 6:52 AM EST
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PrintThis year, as a post about a month ago said, Camden Chat is growing, with more members then ever before. And I'd like to know how we discovered CC.
I'll start, I first discovered it from Zk April Fool's joke with Pedro as an Oriole. I thought the blog was neat, so I favorited it. I'd check it from time to time, then I realized you could comment. (I thought you had to pay money, don't have a clue why.) And I've been commenting and posting ever since.
So what's your CC discovery story?
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Yahoo
I found it through Yahoo. I love this site. Thanks to Stacey and duk for reading O’s news and posting it. I love the info on the young players, and then getting to see those young players last year was even cooler. CC really makes it fun to be a fan.
Not to quibble, but....
’Duk is the guy who works for Yahoo! Sports.
I’m just a guy who helps Stacey.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
is that what you call what you do?
;-P
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Well, the State's Attorney did use another term...
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Same for me
Except one day I noticed that under the “My Teams” section in the Orioles, there was a box that read “Camden Chat” and had the first two links of the posts on the front page. I lurked around here before joining.
Obsessive clicking
When Roch was posting on the Sun website still, that was the only O’s blog I read. wayward O posted on there and his name always linked to his website and one day I clicked on that. Then, hungry for other Orioles blogs I clicked every blog he linked.
Camden Chat looked like the most interesting of these. I lurked the whole 2008 season, joined in when Teixeira fever was at its peak and here I still am.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 30, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions
Sports Illustrated
They had a little blurb on the bbest blogs for each team and CC was listed along OH and maybe 1 or 2 other sites. I decided to check out CC first and got hooked. Thanks, SI!
I will show you exactly how I found it
- on the list!
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
LMGTFY good times, good times
I remember that, I got zinged on that so many times during summer :)
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 30, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
I honestly don't remember.
How sad is that?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
DItto. But I'm not sad about it, 'cause at my age, a lot of...things...just...start...I dunno...what was the question again?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
craigslist
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Uhh
I was looking for Bill James projection for 2010 and I stumbled across this site because one of you posted it. Then I realized this site was awesome.
by LoveForTheGame13 on Jan 31, 2010 2:42 AM EST reply actions
I was conjuring
Neigh, pouring upon the ether of science and maths when a crimson-mask from the depths unveiled a scroll of reckoning in the etherial ways of the old ones…my boy Matthew told me about it. I digged. There it is.
SC posted a link on Birdsinthebelfry when he first started it. I enjoyed that there was in-game chatting.
Game threads
I think I found CC just googling for Orioles blogs, but didn’t get hooked until I realized there were people talking about the games while they were happening. Blew my mind (yeah, I’m real slow with the technology, sue me). I lurked like a creepster for a few months before joining.
You're not alone
It took me a month to that out.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 31, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
to find that out.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Jan 31, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
that's not creepster
at least, I hope not, because I lurked for like a year.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Actually, i think its preferable
Taking some time to observe lets new people get a much better feel for the community and what’s acceptable than someone who jumps right in.
If only I knew that eight months ago.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 1, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Live and learn, kid, live and learn
I must say, you’ve matured in your writing and responses quite a bit since you made your initial appearance.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
That may be an understatement
I thought he was going the way of South Florida Orioles Fan, but he survived. Bravo.
by daveh873 on Feb 1, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
6 to 7 is a big leap
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
google helps
been an o’s fan since i was ten, googled fan sites and found the best web site ever, everyone on here does great work, i visit daily, go o’s
I was already reading Athletics Nation occasionally
when the whole SB Nation idea took off, so I jumped on board more or less as soon as CC started up. SC did such a good job and the other commenters were so great that it quickly became my main site for Os stuff.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Feb 1, 2010 8:34 AM EST reply actions
Daily Kos
Someone there posted a link right after the site started, and I have been a member ever since.
Hey Smails, you scratched my anchor!
The way many people did.*
By googling
BOOBS BOOBS PORN PORN JESSICA SIMPSON NAKED FREE PORN FREE PORN FREE PORN FREE PORN BOOBS FREE PORN TEABAGGING
*Not how I actually found this site.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
the post that explains the above comment, for those who want it
from way back in the halcyon days of cc: link.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Why does Larry Bigbie3 (LOL)
Not have an orange user name.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 1, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Considering your age
The less we say about LarryBigbie3 and his comments, the better off we are.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
when people are banned, their name is no longer hot-linked.
’nuff said.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Actually
Remember when we all had to go in and re-claim our names when we switched to the new platform? Since LB3 was banned long before that he obviously never converted to the new platform. I think that if you’re banned nowadays (as long as we don’t delete all your stuff) you still have a linked name.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
yeah you do
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 1, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Proof
http://www.sbnation.com/users/O’s21girl
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 1, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
of course, some people CHANGED THEIR NAMES before the platform switch.
which makes reading the archives confusing at times.
You know who I’m lookin’ at.
Speaking of which, for a fun walk down memory lane, look at the great “Trade Bedard or Not?” debate from two years ago.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
ahahahah
Actually I changed my name AT the platform switch. The SB Nation peeps hooked me up and linked my old name to my new name.
And you KNOW I don’t like to talk about that ;-)
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
What was the other username?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 2, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
We've all been sworn to secrecy
Seriously, dude, it was bad. Bad.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
It always reminded me of a giant tongue for some reason
No idea why. Every time I saw [the old username], I would just imagine a giant tongue washing over [former Orioles player]. It’s kind of weird to think about it now.
So it's inappropiate?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
let's just give everyone that image, shall we?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
omg zk
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
no? too far?
;)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Perfect, I think.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
even with that giant tongue behind him
He is one good looking man.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
There was a rumor in my middle school
that Javy shared your taste for fine looking men. This was when he was with Atlanta, so it may have just been Yankee fan hatred, but I always carried that with me. Don’t know if there is any validity to it.
that sounds like a middle school rumor
I never heard any such thing, not that I care either way.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Oh, it was fine. Need I remind you that you’re talking to a “birdman” and a “duck”.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
both of them, infinitely better names.
gotta go with duck on this one.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
in my defense
When I picked it I never though I’d actually be interacting with any of you bozos, I just wanted a way to track comments. Boy was I wrong.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
roflmao
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Dude, mine's my legal last name
Not sure what you want me to do…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I told my old name to Eat More Esskay
When we met on Matt Wieters Day he was saying he found his name a little embarrassing and that he didn’t imagine he’d ever be meeting or getting to know any of the CC people. I was like, “you think that’s bad?”
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
if you look in the trade bedard debate thread,
there are clues to it in there.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
man am I glad
I took the time to read that thread closely and figure it out. Awesome. Just awesome.
And Phil it does make me think of a tongue too although maybe just because I read your comment before I saw the screen name…
hee hee hee
yeah, i’m afraid that image now pairs with [username] forever in my mind.
Thanks, Phil!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
it's still stacey in that thread.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
and yet, what i said is still true
read the thread closely, encyclopedia brown.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
i did, i'll try again
can I get a hint please?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
Does it envolve Javy Lopez?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
oh Peter, back to your old tricks! I don’t want Bedard to leave. I wish that it made sense to sign him to an extension, but it just doesn’t. Yeah, trading him isn’t a sure thing, but keeping him, even if he continues to pitch the way he did in 2007, won’t help the Orioles. They have GOT to stock their roster and minor leagues with young players with potential, and they’ll only be able to do that by trading away their good players, or by waiting 10 years.
Well, this winter brilliantly encapsulates the problem at the top that’s made the O’s sort of a joke franchise for roughly a decade now. ~Rob Neyer
by Stacey on Jan 31, 2008 8:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed… I hear ya, Javy.
The Orioles stink with or without Bedard next year and the year after. Trading Bedard for some talented young players seems to be the wise move
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ok it's Javy
it’s not that bad.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
at the time it wasn't
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
hit enter to early
a bad idea
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, I'm sorry Stacey...
But the clues are right there. You got Javy… it reminds people of tounges… you have access to old posts by using the search function…
The power is YOURS!
so it's not lopez?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
JAVYLICIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.camdenchat.com/2009/8/19/995429/gamethread-orioles-48-71-at-rays#19923495
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 5, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
BRAVO!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
it's not Javy
read closer.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
but you're warm.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I had no idea who this "Stacey" person was
but everyone seemed to know you. It took me a while to figure out you were (name withheld). I thought it was an awesome name, btw. It can only get funnier with time.
ha ha
I actually thought that for awhile I made my signature what my old name was so I wouldn’t get people confused. I guess when we get to CC of the day right around when the format switched over we’ll find out.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
if anyone actually reads those threads.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
also
I’m happy to say I made some good sense in the Bedard thread. That certainly isn’t always the case when I look back at old stuff.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Hindsight is 20/20
and not to single out JP, but I really like everything about this quote:
given the normal trajectory of an Ace pitcher’s career, the next 5 years will be Bedard’s prime, not his decline. This would project him to be an extremely valuable piece up till the 2012 season. Your argument makes perfect sense assuming he’ll walk when his contract control is up. Other than that we’re trading for prospects who we’d be very luck if 2 become Major Leaguers, not even good ones, just Major Leaguer ballplayers. The possibility of one becoming as valuable as Bedard, let’s face it, is low. We’ve traded Tejada for prospects. I advocate trading Roberts to the Cubbies as well. But if Bedard will sign, we need to do it.
This list from drj makes me :(
re:
What is all this promising young talent? As I understand it, Wieters is the only one projected as a sure thing. Rowell has potential. Theres’s not a lot else in the field. Liz, Erbe, Johnson, Olsen, Penn, etc. Which of them is a sure thing? I don’t see this talent coming up through the system to surround Bedard.
by drj on Jan 31, 2008 10:30 AM EST
Ehhhh...
…I mean look at it this way. Sure he was injured the better part of two years, but everybody around here still wants him back! Plus I still don’t think we got enough for him – given his market value at the time. Not the 20/20 hindsight toldjaso.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 1, 2010 11:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
oh JP
give it up, man.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Absolutely not.
If you look at the arguments against mine, the injury issue was not central to the discussion. And I conceded that injury would be a reason to trade – but that I was wiliing to bet on Erik B’s health. That’s a flip of a coin scenario.
Now answer this. IF the coin landed the other way, and Erik remained healthy, who would you rather have? A LHP Ace mowing people down with the nastiest lefty curve in the game? Or Flat Breezy (with the crap 2008 WHIP and ERA), AJ (lackluster OBP, sub 800 OPS) & Tillman (still a mystery). AND bear in mind AJ has injury problems too – at a young age mind you.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 10:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather have what we got and it's not even close
There remains the possibility that Tillman won’t turn out, AJ won’t turn out, Josh Bell won’t turn out, but in order to compete you still have to have multiple talented guys and Bedard, if he’d remained healthy, would still be just one. When you’re in the situation that the Orioles were in in 2007 it’s a gamble you have to take.
Tillman, Bell, and Jones are considered three of the finest young players on the O’s/in our system. Where would they have gotten young potential like that if they hadn’t traded a big piece like Bedard? If they hadn’t traded Bedard they’d have a few more wins in 2008 and 2009 and not nearly as much hope for the future.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
A few more wins?
Try 10. That’s right. A healthy Bedard gave us 13-15 wins per year on a god awful team. And don’t even bring Bell into the discussion. That’s like saying that storm looming over Hawaii is going to make it snow in Baltimore in 2 weeks.
But, y’know overall, things worked out nicely in the real world. Particularly if we get Erik B back (and healthy).
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 11:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And that would have gotten the Orioles where, exactly?
Oh, 74 wins? Yeah that’ll get the job done.
And I most certainly will bring Bell into the discussion. We’re talking about the future here. Like I said, he might not pan out, but he’s now listed on most listed as the top 2-3 prospect in the system and one of the few position players worth a damn. When you suck like the Orioles suck, you take the chance of Bell and Tillman and everyone else over the wins Bedard would provide it what is a losing season no matter what.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
You're right
Who needs 10 wins?
Oy vey.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 11:51 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
When you win 64 games in a year
you need AT LEAST 30 more wins. 10 would be fun, but ultimately mean nothing.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I’m surprised to hear you argue this, but I agree.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Well you know I'm not a "tank for the draft pick" kind of person
I could never ever be in-season and hope for the team to fail the way some people do, keep track of the “standings” for draft pick, etc. But I understand sacrificing a few wins now for more wins in the future. Or, if you prefer, more potential wins in the future.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I don’t think anyone advocates purposely tanking for a draft pick!
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
tell it to Baltimo
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
depends on whats involved
if you’re battling it out with the other 1 win team for 1st pick in the NFL draft then i might, but not in baseball.
I'll never actively root for a loss in any sport
That being said, its hard to as upset about a loss when there’s a tangible benefit that goes along with it.
Just one point
I don’t think Bedard would have gotten us 13-15 MORE wins than the pieces we got for him. We didn’t trade him for nothing after all.
Up up the WAR of the players in question
and see it it equals +13 for Erik. I doubt it does.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I said 10 wins
13-15 were his “stat” wins.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 1:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Who cares about his stat wins?
Aren’t we comparing his value to the value of the players we got for him?
In Bedards best year ever he had a WAR of 5.4 (and that was as an Oriole haha). Last year AJ had a WAR of 2.1 and Sherrill had a WAR of 1.4 and Tillman had a WAR of -0.1, so even if you assumed Bedard would continue with 5 WARs (instead of the 1.9 he put up last year), we lost 1.9 of WAR…not really even close to 10…]
And that doesn’t even take into account the financial value that we got. We paid next to nothing for the combination of Sherrill, Jones, and Tillman (and will continue to pay next to nothing for the trio until Jones is either extended or hits FA), while we would have had to pay Bedard $7 M+ per year.
You need
to start trying to read better what people write. I’m not saying this to insult you. But I notice that often when you comment to myself and others in a thread you will misread their comment then go off on your own tangent based on your misinterpretation. Obviously
this is your own burden to bear, I just don’t have the time to constantly go back in a thread and re-explain what you didn’t pick up before.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 3, 2010 7:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
hahahahah
You say all this and then don’t respond at all to the argument. You said that with Bedard (instead of what we got for him) we would have had 10 more wins, when obviously that’s not even close to true. If you think I’m misinterpreting what you said (and I’ll point out that Duck obviously misinterpreted it too since he suggested this approach), then perhaps you could clarify?
And maybe if the problem is misinterpretation by multiple people, the problem lies not with those reading what you write, but with the person writing it.
Sad
When someone can’t honestly examine their own shortcomings without becoming defensive, carrying on, and playing out the usual, boring scenario.
I have no interest in debating you further, as I clearly explained, as it takes far too much time backtracking and keeping you up to speed on what’s being discussed.
Now go have another little baby rant to make yourself feel better and close this out.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 3, 2010 11:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
I absolutely love when people do this. “I’m not debating you any further!” (except for this last post where I talk about how defensive you are and you’re too simple to argue with and you can just continue your ranting without me because I’m going to be the bigger person…you know…after I write this absurd reply!).
Good times man. Good times.
That's some mighty good cherry picking of data, JP
Way to ignore AJ’s HR/PA and Sherrill’s 2009 WHIP.
We knew 2008 and 2009 were gonna be shit. Why keep Erik when we could acquire players in return who would still be here when we got good in 2011? Erik was going to walk at the end of 2009, healthy or not. And what would we get? ONE draft choice? And we’re right back to your argument against prospects.
Trading Erik made sense then, and it makes sense now. And I’d totally take those 5 players all over again.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Look, it's nice to dream...
…that’s what we do. We’re O’s fans. We push harsh realities, economic impossibilities to the back of our minds and dream.
But, well first you’re getting way off topic. I’m defending my argument at the time. Not knowing what we now know about Bedard being injured the past 2 years.
Second, nothing from that trade has panned out yet. Sherrill was a stopgap at his age and still does not belong in this discussion – plus he was overall mediocre as a closer. AJ has not shown a talent for getting on base (“Mike Cameron without the walks”) and has proven a propensity for injury at a young age. Tillman, who knows? Hard throwing yungun. Plenty of those around.
This deal was a gamble where the dice rolled our way due to a future injury. Not a grand slam. A stroke of luck. I’m glad we did it. But if Bedard remained healthy with a 10+ K rate I’d be kicking myself that we didn’t go for an extension.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 1:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Even if healthy....
E gave us a fighting chance for 4th at best, and walks away after the 2009 season. Instead, the O’s have 2 pieces of the team that should help us win significantly more than 4th place and used a 3rd player to acquire a player that may yet to prove to be a valuable piece as well.
Point is, all those players will be in Baltimore until at least the end of 2013. Erik Bedard would have been long gone under his original deal. And we had absolutely no indication he would sign an extension.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
And I conceded that injury would be a reason to trade – but that I was wiliing to bet on Erik B’s health. That’s a flip of a coin scenario.
Easy E did carry an injury history.Now answer this. IF the coin landed the other way, and Erik remained healthy, who would you rather have? A LHP Ace mowing people down with the nastiest lefty curve in the game? Or Flat Breezy (with the crap 2008 WHIP and ERA), AJ (lackluster OBP, sub 800 OPS) & Tillman (still a mystery). AND bear in mind AJ has injury problems too – at a young age mind you.
Given the team’s position in the success cycle, I’ll take the trade over again.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
answer disappeared!
And I conceded that injury would be a reason to trade – but that I was wiliing to bet on Erik B’s health. That’s a flip of a coin scenario.
Easy E did have a history of injury problems. A flip of a coin suggest a 50/50 chance. If there’s a 50 percent chance that a pitcher is going to be injured quite a bit, I would rather trade him.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
At the time
He had 2 180+ inning seasons in a row. Next.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And he averaged 140 IP the two seasons before that.
Next? LOL.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
If I were to ask you
Which seasons are a better indication of where a player is at physically?
A) last season and the one before
B) 3 & 4 seasons ago
Obviously the answer is A. So don’t even try nexting me – and your little sycophants down there can step to the left.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 3, 2010 7:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Obviously the answer is A.
When it comes to performance, I absolutely believe that the nearest performance is the best data to look at. But when it comes to injuries, an injury is an injury. It doesn’t matter if it happened last week or last month. Now obviously you have to be more caution about recent injuries since the player may not be over that ailment. But when it comes to assessing a player’s ability to stay healthy, I don’t think data from 2 or 4 years is irrelevant. In fact, I think you would be negligent to ignore such data. And Bedard’s case substantiates that point.
And I’m not really concerned about “nexting” people. I’m more concerned about taking what someone said seriously and trying to respond in a fair manner.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
And I’m not really concerned about "nexting" people. I’m more concerned about taking what someone said seriously and trying to respond in a fair manner.
JP doesn’t believe in discussing things in that sort of manner, because then he couldn’t SCHOOL people!
Yes, JP does seem to have a heighten need to “school” people, which is interesting in itself.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
If you're not into nexting...
…then don’t be nexting! I quote from above:
Next?
Sure, there were questions regarding Bedard’s health. But he had been able to stay productive for two seasons in a row. Which is a good sign. Enough to make a decision between a trade and pursuing an extension with him much more complicated than you toldjasos are admitting.
Like I’ve said, we fortunately made the right decision. But if he had stayed healthy I’m not convinced it would have been, given that what he would provide as a Top Flight LHP Starter in our division is, literally, the most valuable thing in baseball.
then don’t be nexting! I quote from above:
Next? LOL.
I was commenting on your next. Not nexting you.
Sure, there were questions regarding Bedard’s health. But he had been able to stay productive for two seasons in a row. Which is a good sign. Enough to make a decision between a trade and pursuing an extension with him much more complicated than you toldjasos are admitting.
Sure, I think there some reason to believe that he might stay healthy. But, as you thankfully acknowledge, there were certainly good reasons to question his health. It’s not a black and white. And I hate to speak for the “toldjasos” crowd, but I think we all saw the decision to trade Bedard as a bit more complicated than simply looking at his health record.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
ahahaha oh LB3
good times
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where's merdon?!
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
oh yeah
I haven’t seen merdon in forever.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I m
rite hier. Rumember me. Lol, lol.
- merdon
by Jonny Pops on Feb 1, 2010 11:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Of course
That could probably work for LB3 too.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 1, 2010 11:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
add some porn terms.
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Brother Malcolm would approve.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
whoooosh!!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Replace "Camden Chat" with "Plymouth Rock."
NOW does it sound familiar?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
reading Malcolm X's autobiography changed mme
I’d recommend it to anyone.
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oh. duh.
a little slow here in the pee ess tee.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Figured the hint would help.
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