SBN and CC Hall of Fame Voting: Blyleven and Alomar lead the pack
by Stacey on Jan 4, 2010 2:01 PM EST
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PrintThe results of the Hall of Fame vote come out Wednesday with one of the biggest names being former Oriole Roberto Alomar. I personally think that Alomar is a no doubt Hall of Famer but my opinion sometimes doesn't jive with that of the Baseball Writers Association of America. Luckily I was able to vote my opinion on Robbie twice, as the SB Nation baseball writers took their own HoF vote and you may remember I solicited a Camden Chat vote as well.
Each of the two votes resulted in just one player garnering the required 75% it would take to be elected into the Hall of Fame. For SB Nation, that player was Bert Blyleven (Alomar missed the cut by one measley vote). For Camden Chat, that player was quite obviously Roberto Alomar (Blyleven missed by 4 votes). It's tough to get 75% of people to agree on most things, but it's still surprising to me that each vote resulted in only one inductee. I would have guessed both Blyleven and Alomar would make both lists.
The SBN votes can be seen by blog here. Feel free to peruse and mock not only the votes by myself and fellow Camden Chatter daveh873 (mine is the first CC ballot, his the second), but those of the other blogs as well. You can see the full SBN results below the jump.
The Camden Chat results were interesting. Out of 53 total votes, Alomar received 42, or 79.25%. There was a ton of homer voting for Harold Baines, as he ended up with 32.08%, over 4 times as much as he got on the SBN vote. One person even voted for David Segui (seriously). It was a pretty peculier vote, actually. 3 people voted for Harold Baines but not Roberto Alomar. 3 also voted for Don Mattingly but not Alomar. You can check out the individual ballots here (I removed the individual names but feel free to 'fess up if you're one of those who voted Baines but not Alomar). Full CC voting results are also below the jump.
Camden Chat Vote Results
| Player | % Vote | Total Votes |
| Roberto Alomar | 79.3% | 42 |
| Bert Blyleven | 67.9% | 36 |
| Barry Larkin | 60.4% | 32 |
| Edgar Martinez | 54.7% | 29 |
| Andre Dawson | 39.6% | 21 |
| Mark McGwire | 39.6% | 21 |
| Tim Raines | 37.7% | 20 |
| Lee Smith | 34.0% | 18 |
| Harold Baines |
32.1% | 17 |
| Don Mattingly | 28.3% | 15 |
| Fred McGriff | 26.4% | 14 |
| Alan Trammell | 24.5% | 13 |
| Jack Morris |
22.6% | 12 |
| Dale Murphy | 18.9% | 10 |
| Dave Parker | 17.0% | 9 |
| Robin Ventura | 7.6% | 4 |
| Todd Zeile |
7.6% | 4 |
| Shane Reynolds |
5.7% | 3 |
| Ellis Burks | 3.8% | 2 |
| Andres Galarraga |
3.8% | 2 |
| Eric Karros | 3.8% | 2 |
| Kevin Appier | 1.9% | 1 |
| David Segui | 1.9% | 1 |
| Not receiving votes: Pat Hentgen, Mike Jackson, Ray Lankford | ||
SB Nation Vote
| Player | % Vote | Total Votes |
| Bert Blyleven | 92.3% | 48 |
| Roberto Alomar | 73.1% | 38 |
| Barry Larkin | 63.5% | 33 |
| Tim Raines | 53.8% | 28 |
| Mark McGwire | 51.9% | 27 |
| Edgar Martinez | 48.1% | 25 |
| Alan Trammell | 40.4% | 21 |
| Andre Dawson | 32.7% | 17 |
| Lee Smith | 26.9% | 14 |
| Fred McGriff | 25.0% | 13 |
| Dale Murphy | 17.3% | 9 |
| Jack Morris | 13.5% | 7 |
| Don Mattingly | 11.5% | 6 |
| Harold Baines | 7.7% | 4 |
| Dave Parker | 3.8% | 2 |
| Kevin Appier | 3.8% | 2 |
| Ellis Burks | 1.9% | 1 |
| Ray Lankford | 1.9% | 1 |
| Shane Reynolds | 1.9% | 1 |
| Not receiving votes: Andres Galarraga, Pat Hentgen, Mike Jackson, Eric Karros, David Segui, Robin Ventura, Todd Zeile | ||
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I was on the fence for both
and the fact that I was on the fence about them kept me from including them. I decided that if I’m not fully sure they belong in the hall, then they don’t really belong.
I understand the case against both of them...
…what I find surprising is that we at Camden Chat are less prone to support them than baseball fans in general.
you were nice
i posted the full spreadsheet for ours so everyone would be held accountable
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
I don't know....
2247 hits? That’s it? I know he started late, but that seems mighty low for HoF consideration, although a lifetime OPS of .933 seems worthy.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
You get a few less hits when you walk 100 times a year
Lifetime OBP of .418 is nothing to sneeze at.
I forget who I voted for
I think I would personally be embarrassed if I voted for someone who it’s universally ludicrous to imagine in the HoF. I know I voted for McGwire and Blyleven and I think I had a couple more. I would probably have changed my mind if I was to vote again today. That said, I probably voted less capriciously than some people with actual HoF ballots.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
I'm kind of disappointed
I really tried to base my picks on research and stats and not on personal likes/dislikes/emotion, and I thought Robbie was as close to a sure thing as there was in this class. I like Blyleven as well, but if I had to pick one, i’d say it was Alomar. The fact that SB nation didn’t even give him 75% makes me not only question them, but myself as well. Was I letting my homer glasses shade my pick or are alot of people missing what I think is fairly obvious?
I thought Robbie was the only slam dunk on the list
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Jan 4, 2010 7:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
But if I could have one and only one, I’d probably say Larkin first. Exact same OPS+ but Larkin’s a shortstop, plus he was the face of a franchise his entire career.
I'm one of those ridiculous people
that think “Nah, didn’t look like a Hall of Famer.”
When Alomar was with the Blue Jays, and even with us, I always thought, “That’s a Hall of Fame player.” I didn’t see Larkin play much, and his numbers never jumped out at me because I usually played zero attention to the National AAAA League.
That said, they both should probably go if one does.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Love Larkin
30/30 Gold Glove shortstop? Gotta be in.
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