2010 HoF Vote: Alomar, Blyleven snubbed; Dawson the lone inductee
by Stacey on Jan 6, 2010 2:09 PM EST
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PrintAndre Dawson is the lone HoF inductee for the class of 2010. First of all, congratulations to Andre Dawson. A fine baseball player to be sure.
But it is simply a tragedy that Roberto Alomar didn't make it in on the first ballot. If you're watching MLBN right now you can see that Peter Gammons and Bob Costas are totally befuddled.
Bert Blyleven missed making it by just 5 votes for a total of 74.2%. Alomar ended up with 73.7%.
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Costas and Gammons can't stop shutting up about Alomar
meanwhile Harold is all, “But let’s talk about Andre Dawson. He did make it!”
Now Blyleven is on the phone
Aw Brooksie sent him a note saying “Your time is coming.”
He’s so gracious.
Is there a second baseman
that you would take over Alomar? And Blyleven, 287 wins. Come on!
I'd take Alomar over Whitaker in a second.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
At his peak? Sure
But over the length of their careers, I think Sweet Lou is the better 2B. He had the better glove, was more consistent year to year, and had an identical OPS+.
I’m not trying to bring down Alomar, but I think it’s a travesty that Whitaker was snubbed in his first year. I would have loved to see Whitaker and Trammell enter the HOF together.
Wow
@THE_ADAM_JONES is shitting a brick on the tweeter. So is Keith Law.
I had Blyleven, Alomar, Trammell and Raines. Raines did suprisingly poor (30.4%) and Alomar did better than I expected for a first year. But Dawson only?!? WAT.
He does
His overall offensive stats are pretty similar to Dawson’s. Dawson stole 300 more bases and hit 50 more HR, but Baines took 550 more walks and had a higher OPS. I don’t know how one gets 77% of the vote and the other gets 6%.
To clarify
I think Baines is a lock for the Hall of Very Good, and both are fringe candidates for the HOF, Dawson had better tools and was clearly the better player, but I don’t think that the difference is as large as the difference in voting makes it seem.
If Baines knees hadn't gone to shit so young, he would have been better than Dawson
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Both
but Baines couldn’t even play the OF anymore
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Ironic part is...
HS baseball coaches from that time on the Eastern Shore will tell you Baines was one of the fastest players they ever saw when he was playing at St. Michael’s HS.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Hi folks, it's Snuck-in-the-Back-Door "Hall of Famer" Enos Slaughter here!
Yes, that’s right, I led my league in one [ 1] major offensive category one [ 1] single time — RBIs in 1946 — and I’m in the Hall, Buster. My other qualifications were Ugly Brawler and Outspoken Racist. But even with all three of these remarkable assets, some people see my back-room “election” by the Cronies Committee as making a mockery of the HoF. Go figure!
Oh, and Alomar and Byleven— go %#$& yourselves.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Jan 6, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
To me, the real news is that SOMEONE voted for David Segui...
….one person out there has a HOF ballot and honestly voted for Segui.
The mind reels…
I always think
that the ‘single votes’ are more in the line of favors/jokes.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Jan 6, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
doesn't make it any less of a mockery
right up there with the jackass who refused to vote for Cal because “all of baseball is tainted”
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I thought Cal didn’t get unanimous because there are guys who refuse to vote for anybody on the first ballot – it didn’t have anything to do with steroids or any other taint did it?
or
did somebody specifically say they didn’t vote for him because the game was tainted? I can’t remember.
Of the 178 members of the BBWAA who answered the question about Ripken’s induction, only one, Paul Ladewski, a columnist for the Daily Southtown in suburban Chicago, said he didn’t vote for Ripken.
“In an attempt to uphold the Hall of Fame standards established by their predecessors, I will not vote for anyone who played in the 1993-2004 period, which I consider to be the Steroids Era,” Ladewski wrote in an e-mail to The Sun last month. “That includes Tony Gwynn, Mark McGwire and Cal Ripken Jr.”
(Link)
Cal actually missed a total of 8 votes. I think the other 7 guys were “no unanimous vote” dipshits.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
haha what a moron!
So does that mean he will NEVER vote for anybody who played in that period? What the fuck is the point of that jerkoff having a vote then?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on Jan 6, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Some of these guys fill out their HOF ballots the same way I fill out my All-Star ballot.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Jan 6, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
that's what SHE said.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Jan 6, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ROFL. ah perfect timing.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Really never a bad time for that line
I love it. I’ve never even seen The Office.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Jan 6, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
well ya know
if JP is gonna lob a big ol’ softball right in my wheelhouse, i’m gonna take a swing.
i’ve never seen the office either. i know the expression from wayne’s world.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I watched Wayne's World a few weeks ago
It was more enjoyable than I thought it would be as an adult.
And I think part of the original joke-as-conceived of having Michael use the line in The Office was that it was supposed to be a shorthand index of the level of his humor, i.e. here’s a guy who borrows (repeatedly) from Wayne’s World. The movie gave the line new curency, certainly, but I recall it in common use well before WW, for whatever that’s worth.
WW was great fun, and it’s nice to see it spin off that way into The Office— which I like and have caught up on now over here (it’s on 4-5 times a night on various channels), after seeing the first season of the Brit original this fall on DVD back in Moscow. The US and UK versions are very different in certain ways, as you’d expect, but I enjoy them both, LingOL fairly frequently.
Ricky Gervais (their Micahel, the boss) and Mackenzie Crook (the Dwight guy) both kill me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Office_%28UK_TV_series%29
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
The Office was that it was supposed to be a shorthand index of the level of his humor, i.e. here’s a guy who borrows (repeatedly) from Wayne’s World.
Yup, here’s a guy who uses lowbrow humor with a straight face while thinking he’s sophisticated and hilarious. It’s a great character device. Plus it’s fun to use.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Blyleven circled me and my family one time
In 2006 at Oriole Park versus the Twins. We had family in Minnesota calling us screaming “BURT CIRCLED YOU ALL BURT CIRCLED YOU ALL”
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
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