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"Chris Tillman (1-5, 6.56 ERA) was tentatively slated for tonight, but instead will pitch the opener against Detroit's Jeremy Bonderman."

Orioles Insider: New free-agent deadlines shouldn't hamper Orioles' plans
Clubs will have only five days to have exclusive negotiations with their free agents after the World Series ends, down from the previous 15. Andy MacPhail says he wasn't planning on re-signing any of the seven O's free agents during that period, anyway.

Orioles Insider: O's minor leaguer suspended for failing drug test
"Alfredo Zambrano, a 17-year-old shortstop from Venezuela that played for the Orioles' Dominican Summer League team this year, was suspended for 50 games for failing a drug test, Major League Baseball announced today." And he batted .140. You're taking the wrong drugs, kid.

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"York Revolution team owner Peter Kirk has talked with officials in Frederick, Md., about the possibility of bringing an Atlantic League franchise to a city that has long been the home of an Orioles affiliate." The Keys' stadium lease expires in March. This could get interesting.

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Seriously....

No one wants to win this division apparently.

I have never seen two teams with the division on the line in the final 10 days just limp into the finish line like this.

I really don’t think the Yanks pitching staff has the makings to make a serious run at it.

My WS pick is definitely on Philly.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 8:18 AM EDT reply actions  

MFY are something like 7-14 in their last 21

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know I'm both

I think Philly O’s is too.

by kba26 on Oct 1, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats my top 2 as well....

I lived in Philly for 5 years and went to dozens of games at Citizens Bank. LOOOOOVE that stadium.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not as nice as

OPACY. Citizens Bank feels too closed in.

by uneasy rider on Oct 1, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Citizen’s Bank feels way more open to me than any ballpark I’ve been to.

I love the way its open the whole way through on the middle layer so you can see the sun/sky in the background through the corridors.

Plus, if you have a shitty ticket you can linger around the lowerbox level railing and no one bothers you. At OPACY you get shewed away in seconds…

They are my 2 favorite ballparks though… both have their charm. The Smitter is a must at Citizens.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love getting standing room tickets there

As long as you dont mind standing, you can basically get the same view as third-baseline seats for the price as 300 level tickets.

by kba26 on Oct 1, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly...

And NO ONE bothers you cuz there are 1000 people doing the same thing.

Then you gotta slide over to Chicky and Petes after the game for some beer towers/crab fries.

Bazinga!

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree with you both

The open feel is better at CB but the overall experience would go to OPACY becasue it is in the city and not in a sports complex. I hate that you are stuck in the middle of no where before and after the game.

by Philly O's on Oct 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It also feels like a mall.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Oct 1, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm both too

My entire family is from Philly and they’re my NL team.

I'm back. YAY SUMMER!

by DCO'sfan on Oct 1, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

O's fan in philly

I moved to philly 12 years ago. I will root for the Phillies and go to the games beings they are the home town now but I will always be an O’s fan.

by Philly O's on Oct 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

So re: Frederick Minor League team

Anyone close to the situation? How much of what the York Revolution owner says is hot air? Would be interesting if the Keys had to move. Also, since Frederick is a suburb/exurb of DC, where do allegiances lie? Nats or Orioles?

by PhilR8 on Oct 1, 2010 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

The Rev's

The Rev’s owner hasn’t shown himself to be a blow-hard in the past. I think he’s serious about another team. I know that he’s had great success in Lancaster and, at least some, success in York. I’m not sure why he doesn’t look 25 miles to the north and try and get something in Gettysburg. It would fit in nicely with the family tourist location image that they are trying to build and he wouldn’t have to displace any teams. He may prefer Frederick because it is a wealthier area. Frederick is O’s country, although with the MARC running straight to DC, I could see it shifting to the Nats.

by uneasy rider on Oct 1, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always thought of Frederick as a DC suburb

although I guess that is probably a relatively recent designation. Wonder why the owners of the Keys keep negotiating one-year leases?

by PhilR8 on Oct 1, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Frederick to Baltimore: 50.35 miles
Frederick to Wash. DC: 53.32 miles

I’ve always thought of it more as a Baltimore outlier, but thats just me.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always thought about it as being in the middle of freakin nowhere

But that’s just me.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought it was Western Maryland

but I suck at geography. Past Baltimore, EVERYTHING is Western Maryland.

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's cuz you're in the Far East.

It is easier to get to DC from Frederick though.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, the entire 270 corridor is pretty built up with suburbs and what have you

whereas the trip from Frederick to Baltimore on I-70 is mostly farmland.

by PhilR8 on Oct 1, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

And there's that.

I know lots of folks who commute to DC from Frederick. Its definitely not a Baltimore outlier.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are equidistant though

as someone already pointed out.

The stache is back!

by Knubles and Bits on Oct 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

This!

But I also think of Sterling as being middle of freakin nowhere.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Oct 1, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shadddddup

We are not the middle of nowhere. We have like 25 starbucks locations within a 10 mile radius. Ask yourself this question: does Frederick have that? No…didn’t think so.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I think that just makes you true suburbs.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Oct 1, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is going to the games today?

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 9:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The doubleheader is too much to turn down.

If you’re not too busy hobknobbing with the press box people, you should come out and say hi! Haha.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty important

But I may be able to spare a few minutes.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Don't forget your blogging compatriot if you get hooked up with the crab cakes.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know duck was gonna be at the game!

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

:(

;_;

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What is that second thing?

You confuse me.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tears.

See, the top dots are the eyes, and then the , part is a tear falling.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see

Don’t cry! I was just joking. Duck doesn’t even eat crab west of the bay.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha. I bet he doesn't. What would we know?

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

We probably get our crabmeat from Thailand or Antarctica or something over here.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're not far off

Phillips at Harborplace has been using Southeast Asian crab for more than a decade

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Phillips is a disgusting hole

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well ,at least you know which seafood places to avoid

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a tourist trap

It’s in the inner harbor for crying out loud.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hooters is in the inner harbor

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The evil ex works there in the Nolan Reimold movie.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

the evil ex totally works at the Towson Hooters

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's even better.

I didn’t know there was a Towson Hooters.

And she’s always feeling threatened by all the younger, hotter college girls who get better tips.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's at Joppa and Loch Raven

which is not really Towson proper, if you ask me, but yeah. It’s right near Beltway Fine Wines and Kaos, which is another fine establishment.

by PhilR8 on Oct 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hooters is the exception

I love Hooters.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

See?

Inner Harbor’s not so bad.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going but I might be by myself for the second game

My friend was supposed to go to the game last night and spend all of today with his g/f at UMBC. So she apparently doesn’t like that he is even going to one game today.

Also, I was up until 5 am, I got such a ridiculous amount of water out of the basement. (hence my STRONG opinion about wanting the storm to fizzle out yesterday). My back is sore, and my hands and feet are raw. There is no mustard yet on my shirt. I am so ready for a doubleheader today.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he and his GF should both come to the game.

I’ve been to UMBC. There’s nothing to see there.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

chicks, man

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

That you step on in the back yard and the handle flies up and breaks your nose?

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, the answer I was looking for is "they're ridiculous!"

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am taking the little one

to her first O’s game on Sunday… She will be the cutie in the bee costume under the press box.

by Philly O's on Oct 1, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

aww! I'll def keep an eye out.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Why a bee costume?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not?

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuz its an Orioles game?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think part of fan appreciation weekend is trick or treating or some shit tonight.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhhh

That makes more sense now. I was kinda hoping we didn’t just randomly dress up our kids in costumes to take them out.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Orioles.com has jack "O" lantern designs on the front page already.

It’s like the Orioles just discovered that Halloween colors are orange and black, just like the Orioles.

Although, if you think about it, the colors red and green are so identified with Christmas that I can’t even think of a team that uses them together, other than the Minnesota Wild, and I don’t know if they still do.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...they still do.

Although its not really a Christmas-y green. More of a dark, forest green.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

dress the kids up and they can win prizes and get candy that clearly my 4 month old cannot eat but her 30 year old dad can.

by Philly O's on Oct 1, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dressing up as a bee was actually my first job other than a paper route.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand this but it's hysterical

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You might get an "also: STFU" for that....

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I have pictures

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fourth of July parade

I am in this picture

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know how some kids are scared of mascots?

I think being a bee made it even worse. Some kids thought I was gonna sting them, man.

I still know how to make balloon animals.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't look at photobucket at work!

Dammit!

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be attending.

"I was trying in a general sense to call attention to the fact that this stuff just doesn't make sense. And this was the part that I found especially galling. People throughout baseball who pride themselves on knowing the difference between the split second it took Bill Mazeroski to turn a double play as opposed to the average second baseman...who pride themselves on knowing when a guy's arm angle comes down ever so slightly because he's fatigued in the late innings...who notice if a guy has moved half a step in or half a step back at third base...they didn't notice a DAMN THING when guys showed up looking like they had been inflated with bicycle pumps." - Bob Costas, in the Tenth Inning of "Baseball."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 1, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You couldn't pick a longer signature?

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, i'll get rid of it.

"I was trying in a general sense to call attention to the fact that this stuff just doesn't make sense. And this was the part that I found especially galling. People throughout baseball who pride themselves on knowing the difference between the split second it took Bill Mazeroski to turn a double play as opposed to the average second baseman...who pride themselves on knowing when a guy's arm angle comes down ever so slightly because he's fatigued in the late innings...who notice if a guy has moved half a step in or half a step back at third base...they didn't notice a DAMN THING when guys showed up looking like they had been inflated with bicycle pumps." - Bob Costas, in the Tenth Inning of "Baseball."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 1, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we gonna do an MBP of the year Stacey?

I think it’d be interesting.

Of course my vote is LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE!!!!!

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually think

Luke is the most valuable oriole (and it’s really, really not even close)…but most BIRDLAND oriole? I’d probably vote for Koji.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Oct 1, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

But for the YEAR

He missed 80% of the season!

But yeah Koji Burns & Ks are pretty badass…. but again, he wasn’t around much.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah dude. Koji gets way too much credit around here.

He’s good, but he’s not that good. The burns are pretty sweet, but if that’s all you have to do to be birdland, then we’ve lowered our standards.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, I mean...that's totally awesome.

But he’s a reliever. Relievers that are walking guys aren’t effective.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to be clear

I don’t think Koji was integral to the limited success of the season AT ALL…but he was the most fun to watch out of all of the relievers (for sure) and top three out of all of the pitchers.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Oct 1, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

NO doubt.... but a 2010 MBP award?

I guess Luke, Wiggy, Matusz (his turnaround), Guts, Koji could even be in the discussion…

Am I missing anyone? Mayyyyybe Nicky could be in the discussion.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

For me

I guess I’d make the candidates Koji, Wiggy, Luke, Guts, and (shudder) Scorey.

Let me put my defense for Koji in another way. If we were picking LBP, Mike Gonzalez HAS to be on the short list, doesn’t he? (Although Mr. F’Atkins is probably a winner). Well, Koji is like the opposite of Gonzo. That is to say he is fuckin’ awesome even if his job was small and not all that important.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Oct 1, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Logic totally fails with that school of thought.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not a logical award

it’s just about being unexpectedly fucking awesome.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Oct 1, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right

I would say that without a doubt, Luke Scott is the Most Valuable Oriole this year. I don’t think anyone else is even in the running. Most Birdland is something else entirely. I think Kojiburns is definitely near the top.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best definition of MBP ever

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

But we expected Koji to be a pretty money closer for us this year

Only to watch him get hurt like a daffodil time and time again and show up for the final party.

I just think you should play in more than 41 games to be in the running for MBP.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Blowing TWO saves in 10 days on GO-AHEAD jacks to the MFY is pretty fucking UN-Birdland.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

(PS: I love the guy) But he broke my heart at that game...

I was giving it to a couple dozen Yankee fans the entire 8th and 9th inning. The ridicule I got after A-Rod jacked that ball was the worst in my life. I wished I had a tommy gun at that moment.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

see, now THAT is a great counter-point

but I’d still vote for him. Maybe I just have a Smaug-esque weak spot on my underside for Koji.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Oct 1, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who expected him to be a money closer?

The Marlboro Man was supposed to be the closer.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oops.... I guess that was the expectations before we acquired the Marlboro man

My timeline is all blurred… this season has honestly felt like 3-4 seasons. Its weird.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...seems like you might test positive for the same drugs the SS only hitting .170 is taking

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

LBP list

Atkins, Simon (I hate the guy and think he’s worthless), Gonzo, Lugo (I know he had his moments though), Izzy is pretty un-Birdland… Reimold

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Atkins has to win, hands down

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I also can't believe Atkins' WAR is only -1.0

I figured it would be a lot lower.

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

It went WAYYYYYY up after we cut him

His value to the Orioles SKYROCKETED once he was off the team.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Seems like forever ago that Berken was tearing it up out of the pen for us doesn’t it.

Almost like it was another season.

His value was pretty freaking awesome the first half when our pen was all over the place.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Scary to think what the record could have been in Aug/Sep with him as an option

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Koji.

"I was trying in a general sense to call attention to the fact that this stuff just doesn't make sense. And this was the part that I found especially galling. People throughout baseball who pride themselves on knowing the difference between the split second it took Bill Mazeroski to turn a double play as opposed to the average second baseman...who pride themselves on knowing when a guy's arm angle comes down ever so slightly because he's fatigued in the late innings...who notice if a guy has moved half a step in or half a step back at third base...they didn't notice a DAMN THING when guys showed up looking like they had been inflated with bicycle pumps." - Bob Costas, in the Tenth Inning of "Baseball."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 1, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are going to have a seperate vote for MBP?

For just who was MBP the most this season.

"I was trying in a general sense to call attention to the fact that this stuff just doesn't make sense. And this was the part that I found especially galling. People throughout baseball who pride themselves on knowing the difference between the split second it took Bill Mazeroski to turn a double play as opposed to the average second baseman...who pride themselves on knowing when a guy's arm angle comes down ever so slightly because he's fatigued in the late innings...who notice if a guy has moved half a step in or half a step back at third base...they didn't notice a DAMN THING when guys showed up looking like they had been inflated with bicycle pumps." - Bob Costas, in the Tenth Inning of "Baseball."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 1, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not Buck?

I know he’s not responsible for 100% of anything, but I think the best part of the season was when we started winning games.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is the site loading really slowly for anyone else?

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Yea...its all jacked up for me.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like ever since they did their most recent updates

It’s been a mess around here.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's one of those websites where if the computer isn't good

You have to sit and wait for everything to load before you should even touch the scroll wheel or even think about logging in.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Oct 1, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

for a second

I thought that was the night those stupid “were you there?” commericals were talking about with Millwood retiring 13 straight. That would have been something.

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Oct 1, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha Andrew

our discussion about hot baseball players is cracking me up.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

and why hasn't this happened yet?

camden chat mint julep session? I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Jul 29, 2010 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions

The stache is back!

by Knubles and Bits on Oct 1, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha....I agree!!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Opening those links

just about killed my PC. What’s up with SBN?

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

For me once the page loads everything is fine as far as updating comments, but it’s taking forever to get there.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe I missed all of that because I was busy being a nerd.

However, I can claim credit for texting you the Tejada news and ruining what was going to be a productive evening for you. I think.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What nerdy activity were you engaged in that night?

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by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well... getting drunk.

But I was getting drunk with all my anime nerd friends who were flooding into Baltimore for the weekend’s convention.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah oh right

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So ughhh..... Whats up with Bautista hitting 54 dingers already?

As Simmons pointed out: “Whoa! 54 home runs for Jose Bautista. Tied for 19th all-time. Nobody from 1962 to 1996 hit that many.”

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

so...

somebody in 1961 was taking steroids?! This is a big story!

"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."

by Andrew_G on Oct 1, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

My only point was to say...

This guy did it “after” the “steroid era”….. and he’s not really even a home-run hitter.

It’s pretty freakin’ odd this guy hitting 54 homers. No?

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roids

only thing i have to say. There is no freakin’ way this guy did it without something. Just way way too odd.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver

by MudDawg on Oct 1, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is the obvious implication....

But how is he getting away with it. And it certainly seems like he is the only one getting away with it. Or the only guy that isn’t a homerun hitter suddenly hittting 50+!

If there are substances untestable adding this much juice why arent other hitters numbers skyrocketing. I find it all really odd.

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the Canadian Healthcare System

He has quicker access to better steroids at lower prices.

by tflach2 on Oct 1, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

arghhhhh

For some reason Fangraphs won’t open for me at work.
I’m interested to hear their take though…

Any quick synopsis?

by Wieters Wieners on Oct 1, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

His fly ball rate has jump from around 30% 2 years ago to over 50% now

He pulls everything (he has evidently never hit a HR to right field) and he swings incredibly hard. The writer’s take is that, while Bautista likely won’t have another year quite like this one, he will remain a power hitter and should put up multiple 30+ HR years moving forward.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 1, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here are the vital paragraphs from the article (which was from August 24th, by the way)

Here are his flyball rates over the last three years.
2008 – 38.8%
2009 – 42.1%
2010 – 53.6%
You don’t have to look too hard to spot the pattern. Bautista has made a conscious decision to adjust his swing to gain more loft. In fact, if you saw the swing he took on his second home run last night – which was aided by some anger about being thrown out earlier – you can see exactly why Bautista is no longer hitting the ball on the ground.

and…

If we look at his HR/FB rate, you can see that his frequency of getting balls to clear the wall isn’t that unusual: 21.5 percent of his flyballs have left the park this year, which still ranks him behind Joey Votto (25.7%), Carlos Pena (23.7%), and Adam Dunn (21.7%). Over the past three years, five players have averaged a HR/FB rate of 21.5% or better, which isn’t exactly uncharted territory.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

61? Roger Maris? Damn

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver

by MudDawg on Oct 1, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I want to believe he's doing that clean.

But I can’t.

"I was trying in a general sense to call attention to the fact that this stuff just doesn't make sense. And this was the part that I found especially galling. People throughout baseball who pride themselves on knowing the difference between the split second it took Bill Mazeroski to turn a double play as opposed to the average second baseman...who pride themselves on knowing when a guy's arm angle comes down ever so slightly because he's fatigued in the late innings...who notice if a guy has moved half a step in or half a step back at third base...they didn't notice a DAMN THING when guys showed up looking like they had been inflated with bicycle pumps." - Bob Costas, in the Tenth Inning of "Baseball."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 1, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it's a great quote.

"I was trying in a general sense to call attention to the fact that this stuff just doesn't make sense. And this was the part that I found especially galling. People throughout baseball who pride themselves on knowing the difference between the split second it took Bill Mazeroski to turn a double play as opposed to the average second baseman...who pride themselves on knowing when a guy's arm angle comes down ever so slightly because he's fatigued in the late innings...who notice if a guy has moved half a step in or half a step back at third base...they didn't notice a DAMN THING when guys showed up looking like they had been inflated with bicycle pumps." - Bob Costas, in the Tenth Inning of "Baseball."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 1, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but its making these threads like 20x longer than they need to be.

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, since I'll be at OPACY, some other mod-type will have to handle the game thread action today.

‘cause I’m sure not cool enough to have a phone I can post from.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I can handle it

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is what Joe Morgan has to say about why Felix Hernandez shouldn't win Cy Young

Felix had a fabulous year but his teammates didn’t support him. And it’s still a team game.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

ROY

Is obviosly a team award. Sorry your teammates let you down Matusz!

It’s crap that like that make me really miss FJM.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Oct 1, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Jaw drops)

"I was trying in a general sense to call attention to the fact that this stuff just doesn't make sense. And this was the part that I found especially galling. People throughout baseball who pride themselves on knowing the difference between the split second it took Bill Mazeroski to turn a double play as opposed to the average second baseman...who pride themselves on knowing when a guy's arm angle comes down ever so slightly because he's fatigued in the late innings...who notice if a guy has moved half a step in or half a step back at third base...they didn't notice a DAMN THING when guys showed up looking like they had been inflated with bicycle pumps." - Bob Costas, in the Tenth Inning of "Baseball."

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 1, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Curious report

So I was trading part work, part baseball e-mail with a colleague in Maine. He says this:

“Believe it or not, there’s a small ‘Orioles Nation’ up here in Maine. I kid you not. You’ll see Maine vanity plates: Orioles, Oriolefn, Oryuls
Any way they can spell it. Bring back Jim Palmer, Brooks, Frank, Dempsey, Mark Belanger (from Mass.).”

News to me, but I’m glad to hear it – an enclave of friendlies behind enemy lines. Any Mainers here on CC?

Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08

by 33 on Oct 1, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

So tired today

I stopped at Qdoba on my way to work to pick up lunch, and sat there and watched while the screwed up my burrito in a way that i didnt want and would cost me more money. I was too tired to correct them and it seemed easier to just pay the extra 40 cents and eat it.

by kba26 on Oct 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

did you guys know the Tigers just played a doubleheader on Wednesday?

that’s funny

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know who Rick Sanchez is but he sounds like a complete moron

Jon Stewart is a political satirist. It’s his JOB to make fun of people. PC culture sucks.

I'm back. YAY SUMMER!

by DCO'sfan on Oct 1, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

and just like that

Rick Sanchez fired:

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/01/1853100/rick-sanchez-fired-at-cnn-after.html

Poor dude. Probably doesn’t change his opinion about the vast conspiracy, either.

by PhilR8 on Oct 1, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a great day.

It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 1, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've decided that these days i'm really over The Killers

I never liked any of their stuff after Hot Fuss, but thought at the time that was a really good album. Now though it keeps popping up on Pandora and always vote it down.

by kba26 on Oct 1, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I was over The Killers about 5 seconds into the first song I heard from them

No, I take that back, that was The Strokes.

The Killers actually had a couple of good songs.

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 1, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their last CD wasn't that bad

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Oct 1, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been trying out the Radio functionality of Grooveshark

It’s okay, but I wish it was more customizable. Also, my new favorite band: Deer Tick.

by PhilR8 on Oct 1, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm out of here, suckers.

I’ll see you in the gamethread. Anyone going to the game tonight who wants to say hey, let me know. I’ll be out and about during game two probably.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 1, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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