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Considering shortstop options

The playoffs have begun, which means I'm thinking about what next year could bring.  Showalter showed us the team we expected to see all season and with a promise of more experience, expectations are high for a .500 season and beyond.  The problem being that there are some sizable question marks in the line-up.  It's been blogged and reported ad nauseum that the Orioles need a "big bat" and a solution at third and/or first but questions remain at short where Cesar Izturis becomes a free agent.

Since I prefer a spectacular fielding shortstop to a third or first baseman, here's looking at the shortstop options:

Star-divide

First and foremost, our boy Cesar Izturis could easily be resigned in hopes that he can put together another solid defensive season with a sometimes surprising bat.  We've all seen what he's done the last two years: rarely hurt, spectacular defense, and a bat that, while generally anemic, can surprise you in clutch at-bats.  He seems to be the most likely to be signed, and probably with a 2- or 3-year contract as we all wait to see what becomes of Machado and Givens.

Of the birds waiting on the wire, Robert Andino could very easily take over as the everyday shortstop instead of as a utility player.  His play in Triple-A was much improved as Andino showed off a powerful bat, solid average, yet frustrating defense at short and second.  And when he made it back to the show he didn't seem as over matched as his full season in 2009.  However impressed we were with his offensive numbers, we all recognize how overmatched he is defensively.  Often looking lost, booting the ball or throwing it away.  My guess is he'll remain as a utility guy.

The free agents are looking like an older bunch with Bobby Crosby, Adam Everett, Cristian Guzman, and Juan Uribe rounding off the under 35 options (without options); which is an underwhelming group.  Sure, Juan Uribe put together a solid season at the plate with a .248/.310/.440/.749 line a surprisingly reasonable fielding percentage (.984) at short and (.957) third.  I'm loathe to get in depth on Bobby Crosby and Cristian Guzman as they've been on the downslide for years now, but it should be noted that they did, at one time, show an ability to hit the ball consistently.  And if Andy MacPhail is interested in a lighter hitter than Izturis, he could consider Everett.

For someone more unconventional, the Seibu Lions are prepared to post 28-year-old Hiroyuki Nakajima.  I mentioned him after being impressed with his play and bat in the World Baseball Classic where he hit .364 with an .516 OBP behind Ichiro.  Fangraphs says that Nakajima is the "second best hitter" in Japan, with "back-leg" power and speed, and solid fielding at short and third.  In 2009 he hit .300/.368/.476/.845.  Now, picking up a guy from Japan is always a crapshoot.  Style of play differs, the ball is smaller, the competition is severely diminished, and the schedule is short, but there have been just as many successes as there have been failures.  And with Koji Uehara a possibility to come back, it seems logical to go hard after Nakajima.

Lastly, there are players available in trades.  Mets fans and talk radio have been clamoring that the new GM trade players to replenish their farm.  The most important players of which being David Wright, Jose Reyes, and Ruben Tejada.  Reyes is a free agent this offseason with a club option and buy out.  That's to say, it's possible the Mets will pick up his option, it's possible they'll buy him out and he'll become a free agent.  In either case, Reyes has it within him to be a stellar hitter and above average fielder at short or second.  The problems have been with health.  The man can't stay healthy for a season and there's no telling for certain if he'll ever hit .300/.354/.487/.841 again.  It's possible, but then there's Ruben Tejada, a Top 10 Mets prospect the last two seasons.  Though he was definitely rushed to The Show, he showed a good glove at both short and second and, with some seasoning, might develop the ability to be the hitter Izturis is...I'll let you debate whether that's a good or bad thing.

All those players aside, there are other trade possibilities that I have mentioned, and maybe some free agents that I ignored or essentially ignored that you think the world of.  What are y'all thinking?  ...of course, my vote is Nakajima.

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Nakajima

Would be an upgrade IMO. Would depend mostly on the cost i would think.

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by MudDawg on Oct 11, 2010 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, I will go with the guy from the NPB...

…because I’m not certain he sucks, whereas I’m am with all the current free agents. I’d love Jose Reyes, but not a chance the Mets don’t pick up the option. (Well, actually, it is the Mets, so who knows?). It’ll be interesting to see if the Twins let JJ Hardy go or if he is dealt for a modest package.

I have to wonder how much it would cost to get Nakajima. If the costs are similar to the price tag for Iwamura, then I think it would be a deft move. Short of that, I don’t know if any of the options are appealing.

Next year’s free agent shortstops: Bartlett, Rollins, Reyes, JJ Hardy, Josh Wilson.

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by dfa on Oct 12, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

josh wilson is already in baltimore!

we traded for him from seattle before the season started, and last game…

wait. this isn’t the ravens, is it? never mind.

by Luke E on Oct 12, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great write-up!

… and rec’d.

I love the idea of Nakajima. Had no idea the Japanese ball is smaller. But then a larger one in the US would be easier to field, no?

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by zknower on Oct 12, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

and hit?

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by mpire on Oct 12, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

my only knock on him

is that he doesn’t take many walks. he’s like, really aggressive at the plate.

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by danielreese05 on Oct 12, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh?

Career average of .300 and OBP of .368… that’s a pretty good walk rate.

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by Vuff on Oct 12, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's improved a lot lately in the BB department

he also gets hit by a ton of pitches apparently.

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by danielreese05 on Oct 12, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Against bad pitching......

My knock with these Japanese players is that they don’t really have good stats there and the competition is about half of what it’ll be here.

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by twistedlogic on Oct 13, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing is for certain

there aren’t any upgrades from Cesar Izturis on this market…and we need to upgrade from Cesar Izturis: replacement level player. Nakajima intrigues me…but does he intrigue the Orioles? This is basically the first time I’ve heard him even mentioned with Bmore.

I have this sinking feeling of the Orioles resigning Izzy for two more years, and then hearing a million ridiculous comparisons to Mark Belanger while his production continues to spiral out of control.

"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."

by Andrew_G on Oct 12, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Mark Belanger had 20 game winners in front of him

who knew how to pitch to their defense. We’ve got kids who need run support. I’d say start Andino. He’s gonna produce more runs than his defense will allow when compared to Izzy’s production.

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by duck on Oct 12, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think Andrew was saying it as a good thing

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by Stacey on Oct 12, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

but those who would make such a comparison, and Andrew isn’t one of them, would be wrong.

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 12, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

they would be wrong times infinity

hey, Izturis was ranked dead last in fWAR (for starting shortstops), which I know doesn’t tell you everything you need to know, but dead last? And in the bottom tier in ‘09, and in ’09 his defensive value in the WAR calculations was second only to Elvis Andrus. Which means, basically, that his defense at its peak (which is high) really can’t support his bat at all.

So, I’d argue that not only do we need to do better, but we can do better especially easily. So why is the default, most likely answer basically the worst one?

"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."

by Andrew_G on Oct 12, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

see...

maybe i’m wrong, but i think everett is a better glove and once you’re talking about hitting in the range of everett and izturis, what are you really talking about?

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by j.q. higgins on Oct 14, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be fine with Mark Belanger 2.0.

He’s arguably the best defensive shortstop ever (going by a cursory look at TotalZone runs per year). Izzy is good defensively — but he’s no Belanger with the glove, while doing his best imitation with the bat. Can’t have that.

I agree, though… if I had to bet, I’d assume that we’ll just re-sign Izzy on a two-year (hopefully one w/ option) deal, because there really isn’t anything out there on the free agent market. I’d be okay with the one year w/ option idea, because then we can at least go after, say, J.J. Hardy next year.

Of course, Nakajima sounds like a much better plan than that, but I’m not getting my hopes up.

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by Vuff on Oct 12, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please, no to re-signing Izzy.

He was a good, not a great fielder. He was a terrible, not just a bad hitter. Please let him go. There HAS to be a better SS out there. If it’s Nakajima for two years …. fine. Personally, I would wait til the World Series is over, then inquire as to what Tampa has planned. They are crying poor mouth due to poor attendance and have several shortstops. Bartlett is arbitration eligible, so they would likely listen to trade offers to save money. He would be a significant upgrade, in my opinion, and can bat second or lead off if Roberts isn’t available.

I still say first base is the biggest priority, but shortsop cannot be ignored. The pitching demands a good fielding shortstop, but it doesn’t have to be a black hole offensively. To do nothing and just re-sign Izzy is just plain lazy and dumb. Let’s do something to improve the situation!!!!!

by fuddnelson on Oct 12, 2010 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed, first is the priority

And if we could get David Wright, having Izzy at SS would be easier to justify.
I just can’t bear the thought of Andino starting. Do you know how many big innings he will prolong with his fielding? He is, frankly, horrible with the leather, so why put him in the most important defensive position on the field?

by Fred Sanford on Oct 12, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

David Wright?

If we’re just throwing crazy out here, I say if we can get Tulowitczski then our problems are solved!

"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."

by Andrew_G on Oct 12, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

If David Wright is available for the right trade

what is your problem with that?
If the Mets are looking to trade him, why not at least talk to them?
You seem to bad mouth any suggestions anyone makes.

by Fred Sanford on Oct 12, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And BTW, I am not campaigning for Izzy's resigning

I just think Andino is a spot starter, at best, and marginally better at 2B than SS.

by Fred Sanford on Oct 12, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has there been any indication that the Mets are looking to move Wright?

If so, I haven’t heard it.

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by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 12, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't have a problem with that

and if CC Sabathia is available for the right trade, we should totally make that, too!

Look, you can dream for the best players at every position, but it’s just not realistic. If you don’t want snark, say something realistic. David Wright being traded for Chris Tillman and Josh Bell? Not realistic.

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by Andrew_G on Oct 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was responding to Dr. Orpheus above

Here’s what he said in his post:
Lastly, there are players available in trades. Mets fans and talk radio have been clamoring that the new GM trade players to replenish their farm. The most important players of which being David Wright, Jose Reyes, and Ruben Tejada. Reyes is a free agent this offseason with a club option and buy out. That’s to say, it’s possible the Mets will pick up his option, it’s possible they’ll buy him out and he’ll become a free agent. In either case, Reyes has it within him to be a stellar hitter and above average fielder at short or second. The problems have been with health. The man can’t stay healthy for a season and there’s no telling for certain if he’ll ever hit .300/.354/.487/.841 again. It’s possible, but then there’s Ruben Tejada, a Top 10 Mets prospect the last two seasons. Though he was definitely rushed to The Show, he showed a good glove at both short and second and, with some seasoning, might develop the ability to be the hitter Izturis is…I’ll let you debate whether that’s a good or bad thing.

About your idea of trading for CC Sabathia would be a monumentally stupid idea. We don’t need a fat pitcher with maybe two good seasons left in him. We need a first baseman. That’s what I was talking about.
If you don’t want snark, say something realistic.

by Fred Sanford on Oct 12, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listen

I’m sorry I scratched you the wrong way, and I apologize. I’m grating sometimes. It happens. No offense intended at all.

My Sabathia example was satire of your David Wright example. I think making a huge splash like that at any position this winter is an unfortunate pipe dream. Let’s just let it be there.

"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."

by Andrew_G on Oct 12, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Andino really that bad on defense?

I know he never looks good when he’s playing once or twice a week as the backup SS, but when Izzy had that appendectomy in ’09, he clearly improved with the consistent playing time…

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by Vuff on Oct 12, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

He made 31 errors this year in 132 games.

that’s a lot of errors.

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by O'sFan21 on Oct 12, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ick.

I tried checking his fielding at minorleaguesplits.com, but they’re down, and didn’t look elsewhere.

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by Vuff on Oct 12, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean who knows

whether the fields are shitty enough to make a little bit of a difference, but every AAA field I’ve ever seen is in pretty good shape. It makes me nervous even though he’s always looked relatively competent in the field at the major league level.

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by O'sFan21 on Oct 12, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do baseball rules allow for the DH to take the place of someone other than the pitcher?

Maybe we could sign Izturis and send some of our pitchers out there to hit. Gotta think at least a couple of those guys might be an upgrade offensively.

But, yeah, I kind of like the idea of Nakajima. It would be nice to keep Maximum as a utility guy, but I feel some other team would be willing to have him be there starting shortstop. Awwww…who am I kidding? That team is the Orioles.

by brek on Oct 12, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm all in favor of a Japanese invasion here.

Because I’d rather see anyone else than Izturis at this point.

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by Eat More Esskay on Oct 12, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Robert Andino

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Oct 12, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

cliff lee?

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by daveh873 on Oct 12, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee plays shortstop?

so I’m guessing Andino would play SS every fifth day while Lee pitches?

by wishEYEhadCRABS on Oct 12, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nakajima would have

the ancillary value of showing the baseball world Koji wasn’t a one time PR move in response to pressure about our international operation sucking.

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by 33 on Oct 12, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I would like if this Nakajima also had some ridic sideburns

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by Stacey on Oct 12, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

do we know he doesn't? i've no idea what the man look likes

what i’d like to see is one of those wall-climbing homerun-stealing acrobat outfielders they have over there. maybe just as a late defensive replacement for, say, AJ.

by Luke E on Oct 12, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's my top options

1.) Nakajima: totally love the Japanese players, we need someone to hit at the top of the order just in case B-Rob packs it in early due to injuries. Again, Japanese players are awesome.
2.) Jason Bartlett (trade): why not? if he can find a middle ground between this year and last year he should be good to go.
3.) Erick Aybar: similar situation as Bartlett; he needs to find a middle ground from when he hit over .300 and when he hit .250 (ARB eligible in 2011)
4.) Jose Reyes: steals a butt-load of bases and if he can find half the player we remember then he’ll be more than adaquete. That’s just the thing, if he can’t then we’ll be dealing with an aging SS who may not do anything next year. Also injury prone.
5.) Andino: only with no other options. I’d rather have him over Izzy next year.

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by danielreese05 on Oct 12, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Erick Aybar is a wife beater

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by Stacey on Oct 12, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My apologies!

That’s Willy Aybar.

Erick is A-OK.

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by Stacey on Oct 12, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was gonna say

i haven’t heard anything about Erick lately. but a lot of that slips under my radar anyway.

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by danielreese05 on Oct 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that man has never been an Oriole

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by Stacey on Oct 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And with his looks, probably never married

Unless he lives in one of those states that allows a man to lay with a bovine.

by Dr Orpheus on Oct 12, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

2010 stats for Nakajima:

Nakajima, Hiroyuki (Lions) 0.314 AVG 20 HR 93 RBI 0.385 OBP

http://www.japanball.com/stats.phtml

ugh… this just makes me want him even more. really setting myself up for disappointment here.

by brek on Oct 12, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe if we stop talking about him, no other team will notice him and it'll be easier to get him.

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by Eat More Esskay on Oct 12, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that's the case...

perhaps I really underestimated Steve Melewski… all this time he’s just been trying to drive the market up on MaxIz so the O’s get priced out of resigning him…. BRILLIANT!

by brek on Oct 12, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kiroyoki doesn't have the same ring as KOJI!

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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 12, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Yuki

Statement stands.

"When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." - Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 12, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

"KIRO! KIRO! KIRO!" That'd work.

Not Yuki though, that’s a girl’s name on its own.

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by Eat More Esskay on Oct 12, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

(It's Hiroyuki...)

“Hiro” would be a pretty good chant.

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by Vuff on Oct 13, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hiro is also good.

FRYING MAN!

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by Eat More Esskay on Oct 13, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I see Hiro, this comes to mind

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/83726-hiro_nakamura.jpg

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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 13, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why I said FRYING MAN!

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by Eat More Esskay on Oct 13, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

More on Nakajima:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/some-thoughts-on-nakajima/

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 12, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

MLBtraderumors mentioned some other trade options...

Because the free agent class is, at best, a kick to the soft tissue.

They’re saying trades could happen for: Jason Bartlett, JJ Hardy, Ryan Theriot(act), Reid Brignac, Sean Rodriquez, Stephen Drew, Jed Lowrie, Chris Nelson, Darwin Barney, Everth Cabera, Hu Chun-Lu, and Brandon Wood.

That’s to say, the Rays could trade one of Jason Bartlett, Reid Brignac, or Sean Rodriquez.

There are some interesting names there. Brignac could turn in to an everyday player, Chris Nelson has been to THE SHOW but hasn’t played short, Darwin Barney did well in 30 games for the Cubs and shows better hitting chops than Izturis, and Cabrera and Wood have intrigued any within these hallowed walls.

by Dr Orpheus on Oct 12, 2010 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

that's not exactly what they said

they said the Rays might look into trading Barlett since they have Brignac and Rodriguez to replace him. They also said Drew and Lowrie aren’t going to be moved.

I still think Izturis is the most likely (and incorrect) answer, and Nakajima is the most intriguing answer.

"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."

by Andrew_G on Oct 12, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roch on Nakajima and the O's:

http://www.masnsports.com/school_of_roch/2010/10/orioles-are-interested-in-nakajima.html

The Orioles have interest in him, enough that John Stockstill returned to Japan to take another look at him. They’ve scouted him multiple times, along with a lot of other teams.

I don’t know how much the Orioles are willing to offer him. The Orioles really don’t know until the market is set. But he’s got their attention.

Good…

Manager Buck Showalter’s interest in re-signing Cesar Izturis is a bigger consideration. As I’ve written, Showalter kept raving about Izturis’ defense and intangibles over the last two months. If he pushes hard for the Orioles to retain Izturis, there’s less reason to pursue Nakajima.

Showalter is pro-Izturis, so the guess here is he’ll want the Orioles to re-sign the veteran shortstop.
…Bah.

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by Vuff on Oct 13, 2010 7:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Eh...whatevs

If he wants Izturis, let him have Izturis.

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by twistedlogic on Oct 13, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hiroyuki Nakajima

I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.

by birdman on Oct 13, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Funny that I never heard Nakajima's name until Orpheus posted this

And the next day Roch has some info on him…

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by Stacey on Oct 13, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

that tweet he linked to seems to have caught a lot of attention.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 13, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh...I think it's us

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by Stacey on Oct 13, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I'll go with that.

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by Vuff on Oct 13, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Camden Chat: Getting announcers fired and putting Japanese shortstops on the radar since 2010

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by Eat More Esskay on Oct 13, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, we've been important longer than that

Certain ex-Baltimore Sun writers were threatening to beat up our readers years ago.

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by duck on Oct 13, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is another option

Pick up Nakajima, also retain Izturis or Andino as the Utility player, and when Machado comes up, move Nakajima over to 2nd when he has his annual trip to the DL

by Rich2010 on Oct 13, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah,

Having Nakajima (who reportedly can play second base just fine) might also be good in case B-Rob continues to have health issues…

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 13, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a recent MLBTR chat:
[Comment From Hiroyuki Nakajima:]
What is my posting fee and salary?

Ben Nicholson-Smith:
Early guesses: Posting fee $4MM and Contract: $10MM

If this is roughly accurate, I absolutely want the O’s to give him a shot.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 20, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

That's no fun.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 20, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

money talks

they are probably just trying to get a posting fee

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by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 21, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

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