Tuesday Bird Droppings
by duck on Oct 19, 2010 6:32 AM EDT
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Cliff Lee dominates Yankees, Rangers grab 2-1 lead in ALCS | HardballTalk
"Cliff Lee held the Yankees to two measly hits over eight shutout innings tonight, striking out 13 and walking just one, leading the Rangers to an 8-0 win and a 2-1 lead in the ALCS. "
A Thought On Cliff Lee's Domination Of The Yankees - Lookout Landing
Jeff Sullivan at Lookout Landing has some great words about Cliff Lee. And identifying the Yankees as the boss in a video game is brilliant. -Stacey
IN ORIOLES NEWS
Steve Melewski: Monday quick takes
"The Orioles are not saying it publicly, but it sure seems pretty certain that they are not planning to start either Josh Bell or Brandon Snyder in their infield to begin next season."
Explore Howard: The Driver's Seat / Where would Giants be without former Orioles?
"So where would the Giants be without former Orioles? The starting first baseman is Aubrey Huff, who was traded by Baltimore to the Tigers during the 2009 season. The third baseman is Mike Fontenot, who was a first-round pick of the O’s in 2002. He played for Frederick that year in the Carolina League then was named the minor league player of the year in the Oriole system in 2003, when he hit .325 for Bowie."
The Toy Department: Catching Up With ... former Oriole Angelo Dagres
"Who is the only Orioles rookie ever to be signed off the street and suit up for the big league team on the same day? Angelo Dagres, 21, hadn’t played an inning of pro baseball when he trotted out to left field in Memorial Stadium that warm September night in 1955. Fans glanced at their programs, puzzled. Reporters scratched their heads."
Orioles Insider: Where is all the pitching?
"Sure, it would be nice for the Orioles to play "Name Your Price" with Cliff Lee, but it’s hard – impossible actually – to imagine any scenario where the ace lefty signs with the Orioles when the richest and best teams in baseball will be willing to hand him a blank check." I believe, Jeff Zrebiec. I believe.
Orioles Insider: Adams honored for good first week in AFL
"Scottsdale Scorpion infielder and Orioles prospect Ryan Adams shared player of the week honors with Mesa's Brandon Wood after the first week of play in the Arizona Fall League."
Orioles Insider: Showalter, MacPhail to meet with Angelos; all coaches have been contacted
"MacPhail and Angelos traditionally meet in October to discuss the completed season and different options to upgrade the roster. However, this is the first time in several years that the manager will be present, which further strengthens the idea that Showalter will have a major say in the team’s multitude of offseason decisions."
Reds Likely To Decline Orlando Cabrera's Option - MLBTradeRumors.com
The Reds want to sign him cheap, but I know a certain AL East team where a .263 AVG from a shortstop would be a serious upgrade.
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I loved the Texas taunt after game 2
Cliff lee! Game 3!
In other news, wtf ny? Where were all your pansy asses?
by GeoffreyA on Oct 19, 2010 6:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I loved the Texas taunt after game 2
Cliff lee! Game 3!
In other news, wtf ny? Where were all your pansy asses?
by GeoffreyA on Oct 19, 2010 7:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I caught the last inning of the game with the MLB iPod app
I stopped watching after the 5th but couldn’t sleep so I turned it on. I’m so glad I did. I honestly hope Cliff Lee stays in Texas if they win the WS…or anywhere but NY.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
Another article on MLBTR indicates that Yu Darvish will stay in Japan for at least next season.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/10/darvish-intends-to-stay-in-japan.html
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
GODDAMNIT
standard response. Yu Darvish is man-crush worthy
FREE LAVELLE HAWKINS
I <3 Pat McAfee
by danielreese05 on Oct 19, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Just added this link to the post
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2010/10/19/1760729/a-thought-on-cliff-lees-domination-of-the-yankees
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yankees fans are always into the game, and they know what’s good for their team, but that was above and beyond.
Ugh. Not. True.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
You’ll recall that this was a 2-0 game going into the ninth, and Lee had thrown a season-high 122 pitches. Still, according to Ron Washington, Lee was originally going to go back out there to try and finish the game had the top of the ninth not lasted so long.
Not surprising since Nolan Ryan instituted a no-pitch count rule.
Your mother.
that Nolan Ryan business is bunk
the Rangers’ starters were 21st in baseball in innings pitched this year. The highest average pitches per game among the Rangers starters was 104…which matched the Orioles exactly. For all the huffing and puffing, the Rangers were at best exactly normal in how they treated their starting pitchers.
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
But...but...
there was a story there for people to write about during the postseason. How dare you deprive national media of their right be wrong?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe you missed yesterda's conversation...
but I can live with being the only guy who knows what he’s talking about in a room full of people screaming the storyline. ;)
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
typical arrogant Orioles fan
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
you're the one staking out other team's players
you treat Cliff Lee the way Yankee fans treated CC Sabathia in 2008.
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
It's inevitable that Cliff Lee will be an Oriole
I’m just preparing you all for it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Pretty sure I could learn to accept that fact
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You never did elaborate on your reasoning.
I’d be curious, since I’m not nearly as down on Crowley as most.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
well, I ran off to watch a werewolf movie
and I only got to see the 9th inning beatdown last night. It was a good night.
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
Can't blame you.
Sounds a lot more fun than arguing on the internet.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
are you saying that rule isn't true, that they didn't actually implement?
If so, that’s not something that you could measure with IPs. They still take out starters who are ineffective after all.
Your mother.
well that's the thing
pitchers stop being effective when they throw 100 pitches. They also tend to expose themselves to a lot more risk of injury. The current system works pretty great, going hand in hand like that.
I think that if Nolan Ryan is trying to institute an organizational philosophy to increase pitcher effectiveness for more pitches, we won’t see the results of that for several years down the road.
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
sure, but Nolan's approach is let guys pitch until their arms fall off IF they're doing well.
I’m not sure if that’s a good philosophy, but it is what it is. I think the evidence shows pitch counts matter but I’m not sure.
Your mother.
I always remember hearing that pitching a lot doesn't hurt the pitcher, but pitching "while tired" does.
If a pitcher is throwing a great game, is he still prone to have a mechanical lapse, causing injury? I would think not.
But there are still injuries that are the result of a constant repetitive motion in itself.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Oct 19, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
pitchers stop being effective when they throw 100 pitches. They also tend to expose themselves to a lot more risk of injury.
Well, that’s the storyline, anyway.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
meh
his defensive skills are pretty terrible, aren’t they?
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
I get mine next week
I have no phobia, but some years it makes me a little sick.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
When i used to have to get regular blood work done,
I used to have to sit in my car for like 45 minutes to calm myself down. This wasnt as bad, but i still don’t like it. On the bright side, i won’t be using heroin anytime soon.
one of my best friends
has the most intense needle phobia I’ve ever seen…and yet he also has three tattoos, and once had to get his nipples pierced because he lost a bet. No idea how he made it through all that.
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
I think it was more the blood than the needle, though i definitely despise needles too
And not even the blood necessarily, because i have no problem when i cut myself or something. Its just the way it flowed into the tube made me really squeamish. It’s just so unnatural.
This is gonna sound twisted
But I kinda like needles. I don’t know why. I donate blood regularly and they’re always like, “you can close your eyes or turn your head when we stick you,” but I think it’s kinda cool looking.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
WEIRDO VAMPIRE FREAK!
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
heh
Actually the worst part for me is when they prick your finger to test your iron first. The needle is slow and steady but you never know when that finger pricker thing is gonna stab into you. It makes me very anxious.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
like the glaucoma test at the eye doctor
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
I always feel like a coward when I get that test
I think my doctor likes seeing me squirm, because he always pauses for like five seconds between eyes and I’m just waiting for that puff of air. And then it comes and I almost jump off the little stool.
I'm not too thrilled with needles
but I have to watch the stick. Not sure why but I just can’t not look.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 19, 2010 10:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I've had so much blood work done from a young age, plus I've had IVs more than a couple dozen times
There’s really nothing to it. I just hate it when you get a bruise. Even the smallest bruises are not fun.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Oct 19, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Tons of needles and bloodwork and such starting at a pretty young age
and I still hate them. I had to give myself a shot everyday too for a while and I think that just made it worse.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
right there with ya
I have no problem with needles. I think they’re cool.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I introduce you to...
free-basing.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
The shot does't bother me as much as the sting that I feel after.
The arm feels numb unless you touch it, then it’s painful as hell.
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 19, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I share your completely irrational needle phobia
It’s not that it hurts, because needles really don’t hurt any worse than pinching yourself. But just the fact that I know a needle is penetrating my skin…. it makes me go crazy. I hate it.
i'm currently printing a 350 page document that i will maybe read a quarter of
this feels like a tremendous waste of paper
I still print off PP slides...
for my classes despite knowing that there is no way I’ll ever learn anything about advanced valuation models by trying to make out the tiny print in the charts and graphs.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats also 350 pages double sided, about 700 pages overall
The crazy thing is that not even a noticeable amount of paper around here. For the trial i was watching the other week, each side had about 25 boxes of documents and exhibits.
figure 25 box * ~10 reams per box * 500 pages per ream = ~250,000 pages.
So what are the odds that counsel...
was well-versed on > 50% of the contents?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
So if we're to really combat deforestation...
we should start with the Courts.
In all seriousness – aside from things that need to be presented in “original” why the hell not digitize the fuck out of all the items meant to demonstrate precedent, establish agency, etc? Hell, they’re starting to realize this would be a good way to reduce error and redundancy in medicine – notoriously a slow-moving field in terms of information management.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
its something I know a lot of law firms are working on
But honestly, i don’t know if the technology to really go paperless on that scale exists, or is at least practical. Its far easier a lot of times for me to work with paper copies of documents than it is to use them on the computer. I’d need things like massive color e-ink displays with far more functionality than I think are commercially available to be able to stop printing things out.
That's probably true...
When I’m doing research for a particular tax issue I generally like to print out relevant cases and IRC rulings, so I understand completely.
I worked at a firm last year that was like 90% paperless – a big deal for doing tax prep and audit, as usually having access to the documents in hand is nice when you have to deal with any tax-collecting body. This was a small firm and it made a lot of sense for us at the time, I do see how for a larger group (especially in something like a law practice, where you need stuff relevant to the specific case and prior case law) that it could be difficult.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
It also doesnt help that a lot of courtrooms are ancient
a very tech-heavy firm like the one i’m interning at now is probably more electronic than most, where electronic copies of almost everything exist (though i do generally still print them out when i’m working with them). But theres no way that translates once you actually need to go into court. Even some of the more modern courtrooms i’ve been in have nothing more than some built in a/v equipment (projectors, recording equipment, etc.). The sort of networking capabilities and display hardware you would need for a paperless courtroom is decades away, if you could ever even convince the government to pay for it.
A lot of agencies are going digital...
my wife’s, for example, is in the process of digitizing everything they do (Archives) which is practical – researchers have access without actually having to be physically present with the item.
A company I interviewed with is in that business – they build special server farm type super computers (seriously – they showed me their “special” room where they were building these computers for DoD and it looked like something out of Skynet/the Matrix.) and the Feds are their biggest customer.
Get with it, legal people!
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
The Rangers are my team for the World Series now.
I already liked Hamilton and Lee, but I want to see Lee win the World Series this year. The way he’s pitched, his playoff performance should go down in playoff history, as long as the Rangers can get him more starts. And I also want to write him a heartfelt letter, saying that I really admire him as a pitcher, think he’s awesome, and would be heartbroken if he became a Yankee. Don’t do it, Cliff.
Cliff Lee
I was planning to go to bed early last night, but I was sucked into the game because of the outstanding pitching by Cliff Lee. It is a pleasure to watch him work. Unfortunately, his performance will motivate the Yankees to add $20million to whatever offer any other team makes to him.
If the Yanks sign Lee and Carl Crawford, they will suffer the loss of a first round and a second round draft pick, that’s all. To put it into perspective, we lost a second round pick by signing Gonzales.
Given the Yanks loss of high draft choices by signing free agents, how can they have so many prospects in BAs top twenty lists? Given the Orioles losing record over the last 13 years, we should have an abundance of prospects. It is too bad that AM had to take over a franchise so wasted at the major league and minor league levels. He really had to start from scratch and he has a long, long way to go.
I hope he doesn't go to the Yankees
I really do. If he does…then I will no longer respect him.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
Why wouldn't you respect him?
The Yankees will pay him the most money and give him the best chance to win. What exactly is the issue with that?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
And that matters to Cliff Lee why?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Because he would be contributing to the downfall of America's Pasttime
I know these athletes just chase the money mostly, but they have to realize how far downhill MLB is going. When their playoff games are being destroyed in the ratings by mediocre NFL games, that’s pretty bad. Baseball has become a gigantic joke.
Its not really that I wouldn't respect him if he went to the Yankees
but that has a lot to do with why teams like the Orioles don’t really get any better. They can’t pay guys like Lee nor give him a great chance to win. Those kinda FAs perpetually pass up the O’s so the O’s perpetually remain out of competition.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, but that's a problem with baseball, not with Cliff Lee
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well that's what I said....or at least what I meant
in saying “its not really that I wouldn’t respect him”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
the Yankees are not to blame for the Orioles problems
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
by Andrew_G on Oct 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh I know.
I was just making a point.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I'll be disappointed, too
mostly I’m just tired of watching the Yankees every year (well, and I hate them, and I don’t like seeing them get better, etc. etc.)…but to just to link together the Orioles failures with the Yankees successes is an argument with no legs. Sorry.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Well I didn't link the O's failures with Yankee successes
Although if you consider signing a FA a “success,” I’d directly link the Yankees successes with anyone’s failures considering that they can severely outclass anyone when it comes to shelling out money.
But what I was really saying is that all FAs gravitate to the money, so teams that are already winning get the best chance to sign them and therefore the best chance to win (although not always: see Haynesworth, Albert).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
and Barry Zito, and Matt Holliday, and Carlos Beltran, and...
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Matt Holiday has actually been good though.
Haynesworth has been a huge sack of shit.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That had a lot to do with the rest of his team.
They just weren’t good down the stretch.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
My only point
is that Holliday went where the money was, but it didn’t guarantee him anything in terms of success vis a vis the playoffs
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
I've totally forgotten that whole situation.
How many teams even offered him a contract?
And on paper, the Cards had an exceptional chance of making the playoffs. Unless Holiday had a time machine, its unlikely he knew they wouldn’t actually make it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
two teams
the cardinals and the mystery mysteries (which Professional Asshat Jon Heyman will tell you was the Orioles)
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
So its not like he had a choice then
I’ll assume mystery mysteries doesn’t exist for this exercise.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember hearing that Lee will go anywhere as long it's the most money on the table
So if we want to outbid the Yanks, I’m sure he’ll be ours.
Your mother.
yeah, i could actually see that happening
The Nats did outbid the Yanks for Teix… From what I’ve read, Lee isn’t terribly caught up where he goes so the Nats might have a chance.
Your mother.
The Yankees will pay him the most money
no doubt.
and give him the best chance to win.
Pure conjecture.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
The Yankees could make absolutely no changes for next year
except for signing Lee and they’d be the favorites to win the World Series. They are the best team in baseball.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
no
they have no pitching after 1-2, and next year all of their no pitching will be a year older, as will their “core four” or whatever.
Philly is a better team on paper.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I think "no pitching" is overstating it
and anyway they’re too smart to still not be considered heavy favorites to get to the playoffs, and everybody knows that the playoffs are a crapshoot
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Eh
Sabathia, Hughes, and Pettitte is a pretty good 1-3.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Sabathia, Hughes, Lee...
and 2 warm bodies probably wins the division, especially with the Rays coming payroll dive.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Let's not annoint just yet
Hughes has 1-1/2 seasons under his belt. He regressed this year from last year. He’ll be a good pitcher, sure, but he’s not necessarily going to be lights out.
Right now Sabathia is the only elite pitcher they have. CC + Lee = 2. Hughes is maybe/probably a 3. After that there’s a steep cliff. Pettitte is a pretty big question mark, given that there has been widespread speculation all year that he will retire.
Guthrie + Matusz + Tillman + Arrieta might well be better than the Yankee rotation next year. And in terms of offends, as I stated above, a bunch of their guys will just be another year older.
They are by no means a “lock” to give Lee “the best chance to win.” Not when there are a number of other talented teams around, including the Rangers.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
*offense
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
OK, I get some of that
but who in this division is really going to give them a run for their money? The Red Sox looked pretty broken and beaten (even when briefly healthy), the Rays are dumping payroll, and we’re probably still at least a year away. CC, Lee, Hughes, blank, and blank with Tex, ARod, Cano, and company backing them up still seem pretty daunting to me.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I know I could find this if I looked
But does anyone know off the top of their head what day players can file for free agency?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
they don't do that no more
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
no?
What do they do?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
every team gets five days of negoiation after the Series ends
and then any unsigned players are all granted free agency.
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
When did that change?
Just so I should know how idiotic to feel about not knowing that it changed.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
this year
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
ok then I don't feel so bad
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
now if we can just get rid of arbitration compensation...
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
Now teams just tamper with the soon-to-be-FAs
They’ve all signed with teams before that even happens
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I ripped this from someone else...
but Christine O’Donnell is a closet Juggalo – “Fucking Constitution, How does it work?”.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I just watched a clip of that.
It’s getting to the point where I’m suspecting this is all just some elaborate performance art piece.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 19, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Joaquim Pheonix wants you to look over THERE!
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
I imagine this is essentially what Stephen Colbert's campaign would have been like
if South Carolina would have let him on the ballot.
You never want to be in a debate setting where you can hear the entire audience gasp at one of your answers.
At first i thought she was making a point that “seperation of church and state” doesnt actually appear in the consitution, which would be correct, but for her to seem surprised at the existence of the establishment clause is shocking.
On July 15th...
Nate Silver predicted she’d finish within the margin of error. As of 10/13 – he’s updated her chances of winning to 0%. That is to say a seat that was a veritable lock R in the fall stays in the majorities hands. Christ, what the fuck were they thinking in DE?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he predicted SHE would finish within the margin of error?
or that the republican nominee (read: Mike Castle) would?
Good pull...
that was before the September primary, so it was for the presumptive Republian nominee. That’s what I get for comparing apples and oranges anyways.
But still – 0%? Wow – anyone hoping to see more of her in national politics may want to rethink that.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
who would hope to see more of her?
I mean, outside of democrats who think this is a sporting event.
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
Well...
she certainly seems to be following in the path of another TP fave, in that she’s getting media love from friendly outlets that have large amounts of:
a) money, and
b) viewers
I can totally see her getting a seat on F&F in the AM or some other news-lite program.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it still makes the point you want to though
The GOP could have easily picked up that seat, but instead chose to nominate O’Donnell and throw away any chance. Actually it may be stronger, because i can’t imagine O’Donnell’s numbers would have been much better in July. Its not that she fucked up her campaign, this is how it was always going to go.
True enough...
It definately was an impulsive decision on the part of primary voters, but this is the way the system works. What amazes me though is that all the big-money “establishment” folks never got behind a Castle write-in run. Murkowski could pull it out in AK, especially if Joe Miller keeps not answering questions and detaining members of the press.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of people
are sick of the two parties acting practically the same, and don’t trust establishment-endorsed Republicans any more than Democrats. It’s not a great electoral strategy if you want the Republicans to take over, but if you couldn’t care less about the parties…
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Eh.
If you think both of the mainstream candidates are essentially equally bad, you aren’t gonna care what the letters next to their names are.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I mean I get their argument there
if on a scale from 1-100, and you’re like a 1 (even if you think you arent) if your options are a 48 or a 52, you might not really care. but for everyone off the fringe, those 4 points can result in some substantial differences. And i’m perfectly happy to let them sacrifice the small difference in favor of no chance of getting a larger one.
Pretty much this.
And I think there’s a big difference in tone between people who may even be similar in policy terms. It’s a question of who you want to be driving the debate and setting the agenda. Anybody who sees no meaningful difference between the parties isn’t looking hard enough (and this is coming from a tremendously partisan Democrat who’s often disappointed by pro-corporate stances.)
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear both of you,
but what would you recommend, say, a libertarian do, when it looks like the options are (1) grow government and (2) grow government slightly less quickly?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
That's good advice for a large group of libertarians.
I’m talking more John Doe, who’s not especially politically active, but has strong views and votes.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Join up with that large group of libertarians
or suck it up and accept the fact that your strong views aren’t important enough to you to follow through on.
That would seem
to largely screw anyone who’s too busy with work, family, faith, or whatever else to become highly politically active.
So we end up with what we have now, where only the rich/privileged have the time to work in politics or the money to hire people to do that for them.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Which is exactly why so many people are fed up.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
They'll be fed up until unemployment...
dips below 6-7% again. And when we’re back to an inflationary environment where SS benefits will see increases.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what you're trying to say there.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
It's the economy...
the energy within (not the money behind) the TP is largely white, older, and quasi-middle class. People most likely to be much more satisfied if they know they’ll probably be working again. In the case of Seniors, many would be happy to know that they’ll be getting a bump in their SSI payments.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot of people,
(Tea Partiers included, but plenty of others) are more concerned about principles than about how big a handout they’re getting.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Well...
those people have been noticably absent the past several decades, so I don’t see why I should believe we’re seeing some sustained movement towards: What?
I think the reason you’ll see this energy filter out soon is that there isn’t an articulation of the principles the unhappy would like to see enacted (or returned to).
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, it may well fade out.
The whole problem is found in that saying (wherever it actually came from), “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” Human nature being what it is, most people are going to do whatever is in their own interest.
And I wish that simply pointing back to the Constitution were enough, but yeah, it doesn’t work very well in the 24/7 media soundbyte cycle.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
You can be fed up all you want
but if you’re solution is to nominate lunatics to national office, you’re just going to continue to be fed up without accomplishing anything.
I don't disagree.
I’m just saying that a ton of people are stuck in the position of not liking any of the candidates who might get elected and being unable to do anything constructive about it.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Theres plenty that can be done
especially on a local level (that would probably have a more direct impact anyway), but it would involve some sacrifice on the part of those people. Personally I have some pretty strong political views, but I prefer to spend what little free time I do have on other things.
I don't think much at the local level matters these days.
Sure, there are local issues that people care about and can do something about, but if you’re concerned about anything the federal government is doing, you can’t do much without getting heavily involved.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
And i'm not sure thats really such a problem
or at least it one without any sort of actual solution, even impractical ones.
So we're agreed
that a lot of people have legimitate reason to feel stuck or powerless? That’s all I’ve been trying to say.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Yeah, of course
but isnt that just life? Theres lots of things I’d like to change about the world that I’m individually incapable of that go well beyond politics.
Sure.
The original question I was responding to is “what are they thinking?” That’s all.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I don't think
you have to be “highly politically active” to have a functioning representational democracy. People need to take the time to get truly educated on the issues and then support candidates accordingly. A lot of men and women died, violently, for your right to do so, and I think it warrants taking some time away from your regular routine. It’s a privilege to be able to do so, yet people act surprised when they do nothing at all and the result is the opportunistic freak show we’ve got now.
I don’t mean you personally, but seriously, libertarians should not even want to serve in the government. If you feel that strongly about it, quit paying your taxes and go to prison in protest.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 19, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What exactly does "truly" educated mean?
I’m just asking for clarification; don’t take that as hostile. I would point out, though, that your characterization of libertarians is pretty extreme. Though you’re completely right about them not wanting to be politicians, which is exactly why have so little influence in politics.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I think a major, major
problem for America right now is lack of critical thinking and lack of perspective, both forward and backward looking. We react emotionally rather than intellectually. We feel rather than think. And we have seemingly no ability to anticipate the consequences of our actions beyond next week.
Instead of parking ourselves in front of infotainment all day, having ratings hungry pundits form our opinions for us, we should feel compelled to understand problems thoroughly and have a grasp of all sides of the controversy before we make decisions. F. Scott Fitzgerald said that an indicator of a first rate mind is the ability to hold two contradictory ideas at the same time. If we are committed to getting the truth first, and then forming an opinion about a course of action, I think a democracy is about the most beautiful thing that can exist. An uninformed, apathetic or self serving electorate is basically a recipe for the end of America as a world power.
You are right about my characterization of Libertarians. It was extreme and I apologize. I meant no personal offense, I was just pointing out the irony. I think if everyone who claimed to be a Libertarian was as educated and engaged as I mentioned above, there wouldn’t be any.
Just FYI, I in no way meet this ideal. I think I’m above average in this regard, but then most people probably do. At least I’m aware of the concept and aspire to it.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 19, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
And yeah, it’s hard not to think that we’re done… because most people are at least one of uninformed, apathetic, or self-serving.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
If you're a libertarian, you're kind of screwed.
Libertarians are on the fringe because people like government. Even people who profess not to like big government like something about government. That’s because government does a lot of things for a lot of people, and on the whole does not disrupt the day-to-day activities of most people in a way that pisses them off.
You could spend a lot of time on a lot of voter education efforts and I don’t think you’re going to change the philosophy that a large majority of people hold.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems inefficient...
and counter-productive.
By all accounts, Coons is a competent, intelligent candidate. He’s young and could be sitting in that seat for just as long as Joe Biden did (38 years).
All of us have to pick from imperfect candidates when we vote, but I am shocked that people would potentially doom themselves to another four decades of being represented by their political opposition for a political neophyte that packs so much baggage.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think half of the problem
is that anyone can sit in one of those seats for anywhere near that long.
And really, a lot of people see mainstream candidates from either party as their political opposition.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I would agree that some people camp in those seats...
far longer than necesarry. However, term limits only serve to strengthen lobbyists.
I don’t necesarrily know what to tell a person that views “mainstream” candidates from either party as their “opposition”. There are some pretty big differences between the parties right now.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not saying you're wrong, but
However, term limits only serve to strengthen lobbyists.
How so?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Well, the idea is that...
although the politician has left town, the entire political infrastructure stays behind. Staffers, aides, policy analysts, etc. Many work for other politicos, some go back into the private sector. Lobbyists, however, never leave town.
As they are now the only true insiders, present 24/7, year after year, new members of the political body give them more and more weight when making legislative decisions, they grant them “expert” status, and their influence grows.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
A very good summation of why it's a good idea to reject legislative term limits.
I don’t mind term limits on the executive, but I think you’re right on as to why that would be a bad idea in the legislature. All you’re doing is letting the lobbyists get even more powerful, because they are the constant, and they are the ones with the permanent power base.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm more concerned about the length of terms than a term limit
The current length of terms makes it almost impossible to see the results of prior action before having to justify it during an election, making it far less likely that crucial measure that would only have long term impacts are ever on the table.
I do think that's a problem with the House of Representatives right now.
The permanent campaign seems to be a product of the 24/7 media industry too, but there’s no avoiding it. Gets into presidential stuff too. Obama wasn’t even inaugurated before they were talking about who would be running against him in 2012. Kind of ridiculous.
I don’t really know that there is anything to do about it. I think that kind of fundamental change to the way Congress works is extremely unlikely to ever happen. If the House was lined up so everyone was still up for election at once in non-presidential years (kinda like the MD state legislature) I think that would constitute an improvement. But that’s one of those issues where there’s never going to be enough forward momentum to really make it happen.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Huge tactical error by Joe's son, Beau
Everyone anticipated Castle coasting to this win. Coons was happy to be the ‘sacrificial lamb’, and likely secure himself some long-term status in the local party operations.
Then, Beau would come along in 6 years and take the seat from Castle. Whoops….
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember reading...
a piece on Slate/Salon about just that issue. That’s why you play the game folks. Nothing is ever really a gimme.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
It's hard to predict when the other party's primary electorate will go insane.
I like it when the sacrificial lamb candidate wins due to some weird circumstance, though. I think it’s good for politics, provided that said sacrificial lamb is not someone who is themselves insane.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Coons had a double digit lead before the debate. She was fucked even before the gaffe. This gaffe should seal it though.
Your mother.
I get all the commercials for that race in Salisbury
It’s been amusing, to say the least.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Also fun was in Kentucky
Conway tells Paul, “As attorney general for Kentucky I’m always amused when a self-certified opthomologist lectures me on the Constitution.”
May be not so many Teabaggers as expected will win now that people are actually hearing what they have to say unscripted.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
You can only duck...
the media (and by extension, the general electorate) for so long.
The crazy always finds a way out.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd be surprised how long they can hide the crazy
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I've been hiding it for 31 years
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
A lot depends on the state
In Alaska, where the voted for Shrill Baby Shrill, they probably LIKE a guy who has his security goons handcuff a reporter.
But when a loon wins a primary in New York, not so much.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
True enough...
but one of the only positive developments of the instantized media culture we live in is that just about everything is captured in some way and readily accessible at any time.
It still amazes me that anyone with money (looking at you, Tea Party Express) would back O’Donnell knowing that she was practically the in-house Religious Right loon for Maher throughout the 90s.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people vote for the crazy anyway.
I can never feel good about seeing some ridiculous nutter candidate, because you never know when their seeming shoo-in opponent is going to wake up to his picture with a prostitute on the news.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Way to continue with the lovely slur.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Right
Because a guy with heavy boots, cammo pants & jacket, “white pride” t-shirt, baseball cap with 2 beer cup holders & the Confederate flag on it, and holding a sign comparing Obama to Stalin or Mao or the Joker (you know, the kind of guy Obama places in the “undecided” column), there’s a guy who’s undoubtedly concerned about the budget.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
way to REALLY go for the stereotype
I always say, better over than under with these sorts of things.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
See....
I thought it lacked the subtle touch of a 90s era Jaromir Jagr mullett and Lee Greenwood’s “God Bless the U.S.A.”.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Now if I'm wrong please correct...
But I’ve SEEN the type I’ve just described on the TV, considerably more than once. No one else has?
Now there’s always the possibility that what I’ve seen is the product of a deranged imagination. But I suspect there’s a lot more reality in my (slight) exaggeration than there is in, oh, I don’t know, a pimp & his ho getting legal advice from ACORN, or “new Black Panthers” intimidating voters, or “death panels”, etc.
Well, death panels are actually real. They’re also known as “the board of directors of every private insurance firm in America”.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
I'm not going to start arguing about this,
because I’m about to leave work, but this just shows how much of our beliefs about what is and isn’t true these days depend entirely on which media sources you trust.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
3 Wise Men
Stewart, Colbert, Maher. Not really anyone else.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
Wow.
You make Rob Dibble seem like an open-minded guy who gives everyone a chance.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
This is one of the terrible things about living in Philly
I have to watch ads for the PA, DE, and NJ races. Any time i turn on the tv its non-stop campaign ads.
She;'s been amusing...
A question about the inclusion of creationism in public schools came up, a Coons said schools aren’t a place for religious doctrine. And behold Ms. O’Donnell’s response:
“Where in the Constitution is the separation of church and state?” O’Donnell asked him.
When Coons responded that the First Amendment bars Congress from making laws respecting the establishment of religion, O’Donnell asked: “You’re telling me that’s in the First Amendment?”
Can’t make this stuff up, folks.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
In case anyone here doesn't read Joe Posnanski on a regular basis
And in case you, like me, can’t get enough Cliff Lee.
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/10/19/natural-lee/
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Who?
"See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony's not really a, a high priority. We haven't had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at."
Ah the flashback column, awesome, love it.
Fleetwood Mac changeup that would go its own way.
LOL.
I didn’t realize that Lee has a cutter that’s as nasty as Rivera. Too bad the Yankees didn’t have Josh Bell last night.
Your mother.
that was a good line
but this was better:
He went up there to determined to hold his own, he was swinging at everything, like a guy being attacked by bees.
Obligatory way-too-easy Terry Crowley joke
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
I don't get it!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay....that doesn't seem snarky when typed out....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Consume lots of alcohol and cry yourself to sleep.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
bingo.
FREE LAVELLE HAWKINS
I <3 Pat McAfee
by danielreese05 on Oct 19, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, the joys of terrible broadcasters.
Tim McCarver: "…[Buster Posey] didn’t come up until May 29th. That, coincidentally, is the same day that Roy Halladay pitched a perfect game against the Florida Marlins.."
Joe Buck: "And isn’t that the same day that Burrell went deep here in Philadelphia in his return with the Giants?"
McCarver: "Right, right."
(from The Fightins)
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I remember hearing that one live.
It was a total double-take moment. Wait, what?
I guess if I did live broadcasting I would have my share of gaffes too. But it helps that I start out not being an idiot, which one can’t say for McCarver or Buck.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Tim McCarver: Ferd Manfraud on Television
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Man, I'm bored
let’s talk about third base. Who has viable options to present!?
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
I volunteer for the position
I promise not to attempt to field a single ball, thus maintaining my 1.000 fielding percentage and securing my place with the national media as the best defensive infielder in professional baseball. What more can we ask for from a weak free agent class?
Wigs
or David Wright.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'm sorry
I’ll attempt to think of something serious and get back to you.
Although it’ll probably be Wigs.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
so you're saying you arent supporting my campaign to be the third baseman?
this is very disappointing news.
I'll take you over Melmo
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
That's not much in the way of confidence.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm ok with it
I figure we can slowly start to compile a list of 3rd baseman who would be worse than me, and before anyone realizes it I’ll be standing out there on Opening Day. its a pretty foolproof plan really.
Mike Lowell would probably be worse than you too.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like 0 errors from my third bagger
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
I would bet you will ground into fewer double plays than Wiggy too.
And take more pitches per plate appearance than Cesar Izturis.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
or Christine O'Donnell
She’ll be available.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'm serious about
trying to pull Mike Lowell out of retirement. I think he has a few good years left in him.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 19, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you think?
I mean, the FA route is thin as shit. I thought for a second maybe Aramis Ramirez, but he had a shitty year and his option is a $14.6M player option, no way he doesn’t exercise it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
it's pretty much Wiggy or the trade market
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
I never feel like I know other teams well enough to know about trades
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Maybe the O's could sign Maicer Izturis to play 3B
then lock up Cesar for SS. It’ll be a feel good family story. Do they have a father who can coach third?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
just to be clear
you’re volunteering (in a legally binding way – No Take Backs) to be Cesar and Maicer Izturis’ dad?
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Whatevs.
The guy was the World Series MVP two-ish years ago. It’s not like he forgot how to play baseball. He’s just a little banged up.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 19, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Lowell?
He’s older than my grandpa.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Your grampa was a scamp!.
He’s 36. Scientists say the first person that will live to 150 has already been born. Might be Mike.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
man, I do NOT want to see
what you think “moderately banged up” is
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
One Eye
from Vahalla Rising is moderately banged up.
Actually, he might not be bad at 3B either.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 19, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm serious about spending my entire salary on cases of Natty Light
I think its a great beer!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like I once had something to say about Natty Light...
oh well.
Protip, kids: never ever accept a six pack with one missing of an unfamiliar beer brand, even from very close friends.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
since it's a fantasy world
let’s say you can only have one or t’other
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
cliff lee
But we can also have crawford, right?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I’m a fan of Dan Johnson on a cheap 1 year deal or minor league contract if he’s willing to accept one. In 98 games at AAA in 2010, he put up ridiculous numbers (1.053 OPS). Unfortunately, minorleaguesplits is down so I can’t check his MLEs. Obviously, I think the Nugget should get a serious consideration. He could some more AAA time but I’m fine with using him on the big league roster. Beltre is obviously the big catch on the free agent, but he’ll cost entirely too much.
Your mother.
but was he any good?
we can’t hide a terrible fielder over there for a season, that’s for sure.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
probably not, but his bat could be good.
On a minor league deal, I think he’s definitely worth a shot.
Your mother.
sure
but I don’t see him accepting a minor league assignment from the Orioles.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
for what it's worth
Dan Johnson has been an average fielder over 304 games at 1B (1.7 UZR, 0.9 UZR/150).
Your mother.
Is he gonna be a FA?
I’d imagine he might like to stick with TB if they want him.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Cliff Lee?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Naturally.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
It's all right for me
It was having some glitches this morning, though. So maybe something’s going on.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Okay
potential (maybe) third base trade targets (maybe):
Mark Reynolds
Aramis Ramirez
Pablo Sandoval
FYI: I don’t like poaching and vulturing like this, and this is all purely “hey, maybe this guy is available”. Anyway, any interested takers in any of these guys?
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
I thought about Mark Reynolds when you asked initially
even went and looked at his numbers. I try not to put too much stock in K% as long as the other numbers are ok, but his totals are astounding.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
he's basically just a lot of power
not a high OBP guy, I’m guessing not a terrific fielder, lots of Ks, but a lot of homers
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Yeah
He’s not an awful player by any means. He has a decent walk rate, hits for power. It could certainly be worse.
I don’t agree with the “2 year rental” line from birdman. What is the cut off for not being a rental?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I think its proportional to the length of contract you would want to give the player
Trading for an ace pitcher under 32 years old with less than 2 seasons remaining on his contract? Rental.
A guy who you wouldn’t give more than a 2 year contract if he was a free agent? Trading for him any earlier than the deadline in his walk year isnt a rental.
I'm inclined to pass on Reynolds
having given it a little thought….there’s a non-trivial chance that Josh Bell outperforms Reynolds in 2012, and we’re not going anywhere with or without Reynolds in 2011, and I’d rather keep the prospects and not get frustrated with the strikeouts.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Based on what I've seen
I wouldn’t want Josh Bell anywhere on my team. I’ll take Mark Reynolds…just wish he could cut back on the Ks. Plus, he went to UVA.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i still like Bell long-term
I mean, put Derek Jeter on the Yankees a year plus before he’s ready and he’d look like something a horse threw up, too.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Horse vomit is probably a delicacy in some countries.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless Aramis is brain dead
He’ll exercise his player option. And Panda is available? I know he had a down year but I would be surprised if the Giants gave up on him so fast. Reynolds would be a 2 year rental. I don’t see us having the prospects to get him unless we give up Britton.
Your mother.
well, I'd guess you could still trade for him
and all of these guys had down years, so it’s not totally crazy to suggest that they’d be available (unlike, say, suggesting we go get David Wright or Evan Longoria or some nonsense)
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
oh i'm sure the cubs would love to unload Ramirez's contract
He would be definitely be available. I would be surprised to see the Giants sell low Panda. He’s not even arbitration eligible yet (I think). Reynolds is a good player but we don’t have the prospects. The trade would have to go Britton and then what? Snyder (ha)? Where are my Hoes? Erbe? Someone off our big league roster?
Your mother.
I dunno
I was just offering possiblities to see if anyone were interested. I’m not particularly.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
Spoone's junk
but I have no idea what a guy who hit .180 with 32 home runs but is under contract for 2 years is worth on a trade market. None whatsoever.
Ranger Brad, I'm a scientist, I don't believe in anything.
I for one...
hope that they want all of Spoone, not just his junk.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a lot of money...
I wish I was divorcing Tiger Woods.
Not really though.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
I was going to say...
Herpes doesn’t go away.
Nor do the kids.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not one to moralize about Tiger...
getting some new new on the side.
But if he ever ever ever was doing anything uprotected that just makes me so upset with his entitled self. That’s the mother of his kids, she doesn’t deserve to catch the Herp just because you want to get it on with a porn star.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not what bothers me
What bothers me is that he paraded around and carried himself as the pure family man and then…this comes out. He had no way out because he destroyed his careful image. I liked Tiger before this. He is a great golfer, but I can’t admire him as a person anymore.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
I'd probably willfully take on a case of herpes
for 110 million.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
If Derek Jeter can live with it, so can we.
for $110M
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
And you don't have to validate groupie parking either.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 19, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I would totally divorce Tiger Woods
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
yeah I think he'll be just fine
Tiger still has the ability to go out and earn a shit-ton more money as well.
He'll be fine even he never earns another cent in his life
He might have to sell off a yacht or two, but he’ll be fine.
Your mother.
This just in - Cervelli to start ahead of Posada
Berkman to DH, so Posada sits. Me? I’d DH Posada & put Berkman at 1st. Tex’s game is garbage right now.
I really can’t stand these pampered, neurotic pitchers who “need” their personal catcher. Yeah, Maddux got away with it. So did Randy Johnson. But… those guys won games! So they earned that right. Only thing Burnett’s earned is the right to kiss the ground Girardi walks on because he’s starting over Moseley & Nova.
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
I would have my own personal catcher if I was in the MLB
I would name that catcher Matt Wieters and assign him number 32.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 19, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If the NYY game doesn't attract your attention...
ESPN is showing a documentary on Tim Richmond at 8 am.
Don’t know who he is? If I told you he was a NASCAR driver, you wouldn’t be interested. How about I told you he was a NASCAR driver suspended for drug use (later to have it proven NASCAR fudged his test to get him out), slept his way across the NASCAR schedule (both ways, too, according to rumor), raced after an AIDS diagnosis that he kept hidden from fans (with media contingent more than happy to help him in hiding it) and won two races before he retired and died and was one of the most popular drivers for a time in the mid-80s? Now do I have your attention?
No?
Well, your loss.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Ugh - 8 PM
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
What's NASCAR again, now?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'm really surprised that you like NASCAR
Don’t take this the wrong way but you don’t seem like the typical NASCAR fan .
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
he's not.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Because you know SOOOOO many NASCAR fans????
:)
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
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