Wednesday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 7:33 AM EDT
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Game one of the 2010 World Series is tonight, but did you know that on this day in 2005, the Chicago White Sox won the World Series? And on this day in 2006, the St. Louis Cardinals won the World Series. Ah, the good old days, when baseball was over before Halloween.
How about a question of the day? We've never done that before, but I'm feeling like mixing it up. If people like it, maybe we'll try it more often. Here goes: What is the one barometer of success for the Orioles in the coming season? If you like, fill in the blank: I will judge next season successful if ________ happens.
Ken Rosenthal Tweets the O's
According to Rosenthal, Mark Connor is leading candidate to be the Orioles pitching coach, Rick Adair for bullpen coach, and they'll interview Wayne Kirby and Jim Presley for hitting coach. They're also interested in Mike Bordick and Billy Ripken.
Orioles Insider: Sources: Crowley and Orioles agree on hitting-evaluator post
Although no official announcement has been made, the Orioles have reached an agreement with Terry Crowley that will make the big league hitting coach an organization-wide offensive evaluator in 2011, according to two sources.
Ten years in prison for bilking Baltimore Oriole Julio Lugo - DominicanToday.com
Edwin Baquero has been sentenced to 10 years in prison for defrauding Lugo out of $1.4M. Someone should slam that guy's head into the hood of a car.
Orioles Insider: Mahoney will have knee surgery; winter league stint over
So Joe Mahoney goes to have his wrist examined and ends up needing knee surgery. Brilliant.
If Teams Want Fans To Pay For Stadiums, They Should Give Fans Some Ownership
This article is about how to pay for new stadiums, but the most interesting thing to me was that in 2011, only nine baseball parks will be older than Camden Yards. Can you name them? No cheating!
Lee’s arrival meant the Rangers could believe - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
This is just another "Cliff Lee is awesome" story, but it's funny because it starts with his first game as a Ranger, which of course came against the Orioles, and because it's a story about how awesome Cliff Lee is, this is what it says: "And so in the deathly Texas summer heat, in front of a bunch of guys he had met an hour earlier, Cliff Lee put on his fourth uniform in less than a year, went out against the Baltimore Orioles and pitched a complete game." They don't mention that he lost that complete game to the Orioles. Cliff Lee! The Orioles own you! Now please come pitch for us!
Stats are great, but intangibles move baseball's true barometer - CBSSports.com
The Rangers have more heart and hustle, but the Giants are more intensity and momentum. So....I don't know. And hey! He made BUNTING an intangible?
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My List
Fenway
Wrigley
Dodger
SkyDome
Comiskey (by 1 year)
Colorado
Kansas City
Florida
Tampa Bay
(only used MLB.com for list of teams, not age of stadiums)
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
That's halfway cheating
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 8:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and you got one wrong
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 8:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's a fair point
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
No it's not
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Nix Colorado and add Anaheim
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 27, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
err...nix Anaheim and add Oakland, I mean.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 27, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Anaheim's not on my list
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
He's nixing Anaheim from his comment
I had to read it a few times to get it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 8:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Stupid Mile High Stadium replacement
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I'm going to have a few
hundred “FREE EDWIN” t-shirts made up.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
They should rename this board "Camden Crybabies".
Yesterday I can’t make fun of hicks. Today I can’t make fun of Julio Lugo.
So basically we are only allowed to score points off of sixteen year old girls and nobody else?
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 27, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you seriously think Andrew is being serious?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 9:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you seriously think
I’m being serious about Andrew being serious?
I’ll admit, I’m a little defensive over the hick beating I took yesterday. And my humor can be pretty aggressive. But I’m not looking for trouble.
Hugs and kisses for everybody.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 27, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
HUGS AND KISSES
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 27, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
You sounded kinda serious
I didn’t think you took any flak over the hicks comment, most people seemed to be agreeing with you. I mean, overalls are not awesome.
But duck is always gonna speak up for his hick brethren. Although just between you and me, he totally plays up that country boy thing in here. If I’d never met him I’d expect him to be walking around barefoot chewing on a piece of straw.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 9:20 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
actually
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a serious heated angry thing get up in here….but then I never read the political discussions except to snipe at the idea of goats marrying apples (where will it stop?!)
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Goats and apples? thats crazy
now if you, on the other hand, wanted to marry a shoe, you know who to vote for in the New York Gubernatorial election.
That I took in stride. I respect duck.
After that though, some fool I smacked down over the Ron Dibble thing played the class war card.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 27, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He was simply calling you out for the elitist snob you are
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 9:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hahaha... some commercials stick with you.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
AIR KISSES AT THE CLUB MUFFY
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 27, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
How do you know I'm not doing that right now?
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Hell, maybe you are
I’ve never seen you in your home environment. Maybe you clean yourself up for trips to the big city.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Scrapple > Scrabble > Overalls
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 27, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
There's more than one answer to these questions pointing me in crooked line
Your mother.
by birdman on Oct 27, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
always a rec.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
That pretty much WAS the case
when I met him freshman year.
Oh, I kid the hillbillies, but with love. Always with love. (;-)
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
And I was listening to Slayer then, too
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Yes, I remember
particularly at 10AM on Sundays.
And all I could think was, “Whatever obnoxious, batshit insane rant I went off on last night, it can’t be THAT bad!”
"Fairy tales start 'once upon a time...'. Fishing stories start 'now this ain't no bullshit...'."
- Cap'n Phil Harris
Not in Scotland
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
We won't ask why you're familiar with it. :p
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
You can make fun of hicks
but remember, we’re better shots than city folk.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Perhaps its a cultural/regional thing
but I don’t equate “living in the country” with “hick”. Maybe some people do and that’s why they were offended.
When I say “hick” I’m talking Cletus from the Simpsons.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 27, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
sure, I've hearda grits before
I just ain’t never seen a grit is all
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
An appropriate quote from The Wire (when isn't there one?)
“Man, fuck that West Coast shit. In B-more, we aim and hit a nigga, you heard?” – Snoop
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
not in my neighborhood you wouldn't be
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I will judge next season successful if
happens.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
This is a great zinger from Mr. Lee re: fan spitting on his wife
No, I don’t know the guy that did it. It could be anyone. Who knows? Who cares? They’re at home right now.
gut-punched!
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Ahahaha,
that is fantastic.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Stacey I started reading the autobiography of Malcolm X and could not put it down
I stayed up until 1:30 reading it.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
Yep. It's a great book.
Unlike most things I read 20+ years ago, I still remember this book vividly.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Oct 27, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Awesome
I wasn’t kidding yesterday when I said I thought it would be required reading. Not only is it terribly interesting, but it really shows a side of Malcolm that most people never know about. It changed the way I look at a lot of things. I took it off my bookshelf to read again earlier this year when the man convicted of his murder was paroled, but I never got around to it. I should put it on the winter to-do list.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
My criterion for success
has stayed the same for years and years and years. When we reach it, I’ll get a new one.
3rd place with a .500 record.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
I kind of like the Yankee criterion for success
World Series win or bust. Not that I won’t be extremely happy as milestones are reached (like .500 season), but I won’t be truly satisfied until I can feel what it’s like to watch the final out of a World Series and see the Orioles celebrate.
I think I'll have the same criterion that I had last year
which is to look at individual players and see them improving to the point of fulfilling promise. If enough of them do that, then the year is a win. Last year was not a win.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
at some point, it would be interesting to sit down and have everyone actually sit down and write out their expectations for each player next season
I suppose it’ll have to wait until later once the roster is closer to being finalized. I think we could put together enough data to do some interesting things with it.
that's a pretty interesting idea
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Quite.
Are we just talking projections, or something more in-depth… like, “I would project stat set A, but I hope to see stat set B, and I really want to see improvement in area C”?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
i was thinking something basic
just like expected slash line and home runs for next season maybe. We can add more, but it may result in fewer people responding.
Expected slash line is not exactly basic.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
well, how else could we measure performance?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
and Saves, duh
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 27, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm holding out for "holds" to be added to that list.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 27, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, it's basic in a relative sense, sure. Those are the simplest stats.
I just feel like, even having watched probably 90% of Orioles games in the past season, I have no idea how I would be able to make an informed prediction of slash lines.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
If it would be helpful for anyone,
I submitted 2010 projections to Camden Crazies when Daniel was collecting them over there. I’m pretty sure I still have the spreadsheet I used lying around, to convert counting stats (PA, H/2B/3B/HR) and BB/K rates to slash lines. I can dig it up and upload it to Google Docs or something.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
SC used to do community projections
I’d be pro doing it again, although last year I just directed everyone to Daniel Moroz’s website since he was also doing them.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
EVERYONE? Even Tibetan monks?
Dude, there’s like 6.2 billion people on planet Earth. And I bet only1 billion of them don’t follow baseball. That 5.2 billion player evaluations. I don’t have that kind of time.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
that's true
it’s a Tom Tango idea, the fans scouting report. It’d be a great idea to do it for the Orioles roster (perhaps in spring training), but we need as many people as possible to participate.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Keith Law weighs in on one of the great debates of our time
Both great fries but @Five_Guys has better burgers. RT @bryant_yang: @keithlaw thoughts on in n out vs five guys?
I think I'm gonna hit up Five Guys for lunch today.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 27, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I had Five Guys yesterday
My co-worker and I eat there once a month after we go to a meeting at another location and have to drive right past Five Guys to get back to our office. It’s the only time I let myself have it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Anyone from the NC area ever had Char-grill?
I haven’t but have heard good things. Am looking to give ’em a try next time I make my way down there.
Reading the comments, I think I actually meant Cook Out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Out_(restaurant)
Now they’re both on my list.
Cook Out is Great!!
One of my favorite things about living in North Carolina.
"I could no more abandon my Orioles than I could repudiate my family, or my native heath, or my own childhood—even though I know it is a devotion that can now bring only grief." - David Bentley Hart
by Gorilla Bird on Oct 27, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you ever been to Abbey Bistro Burger in Fed Hill?
Service is meh, burgers are outstanding.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I think
Bobby’s Burger Place (Bobby Flay’s chain) is a new contender. There are only a couple now, but we have one the next town over. Fucking outstanding, people.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Went to the one in West Philly
it was pretty delicious, but at least on a city-wide basis there are several places I’d place ahead of it.
As far as burger places overall
I have places I like better, but as far as chains go it’s right up there with 5 Guys for me (which is def. ahead of in ’n out).
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
If you're ever in Philly I highly recommend 500 degrees
Theres only a single location, but its a similiar price point and atmosphere as a place like BBP or Five Guys
Def. have to check it out
I got to Philly a couple month usually. My best bud lives outside Trenton, so sometimes we hang in Philly. Where abouts is it?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
15th and Sansom
Its owned by the same people as Rogue and the burger’s based off the Rogue burger, which is generally regarded as one of the best in the city.
Best part? Friday and Saturday nights they’re open until 3AM.
The season will be successful if...
The young players (core?) take steps forward. Those who I mean:
Wieters
Matusz
Arrieta
Tillman
Pie and/or Reimold
4th place and 78 wins would be nice too, but secondary to the development of those guys.
Librarians are hiding something
Stacey you totally stole my question of the day
and that’s okay. So now I have a non-baseball QotD for anybody who has seen The Evil Dead.
My friend Steve postulated an interesting query about the iconic girl-being-chased-through-the-woods-and-inevitably-raped-by-a-tree scene in The Evil Dead:
What if it’s not Tree Rape, but rather Surprise Sex with an Ent?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
wouldn't surprise sex constitute an existing rapport
and didn’t the Surprise Sex lead to demonic possession?
That is
one of the dorkiest things ive ever heard.
Also, she did not seem to enjoy it much, so i’m guessing it was rape, even if it was from some mythical Tolkien charecter.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm sorry!
You should think of another question of the day!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
is this one inappropriate, is that what you're saying?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
No if you want to talk about tree sex or something, don't let me stop you
I was just saying you should think of another baseball question!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Okay then
Sex with Trees: Elm or Pine?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
If you're gonna make is baseball-related,
shouldn’t it be maple or ash?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Darn it.
makeisit
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
You were my inspiration for putting a question of the day in the post, btw
I love it, but I think if it’s just in the comments maybe not as many people will see it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I figured
This is pretty much the best outcome for the idea, so we all win.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
If you have any good questions, let me know.
my mind doesn’t always work the best in the mornings.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Here's one for you:
Jay Payton: Great man, or the greatest man?
Wow, we were insane.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
hahah I love reading old posts
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
oh but that talk about zk kicking sc's ass in the cabrera bowl makes me sad
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
think how it makes ME feel
what the hell was I thinking?
I love j.q. higgins’ clairvoyance:
(but i don’t think i’m alone in fearing that the score will even up sooner or later)
truer words were never spoken.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
so, the cbs article has to be a joke, right?
anyone writing on the internet cannot seriously still think that, i hope. I mean, if this is serious the FJM guys have already bookmarked it for next September,
Rob Neyer took it as satire in his wangdoodles
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Yeah it's gotta be
It didn’t seem like it at 7 a.m. when my eyes were blurry, but taking a second look it has to be.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
alright, good, i felt like it was just a little too perfect
at inducing rage
I'll consider next year a success
if after June 1, the word “hapless” does not appear in any media piece concerning the O’s.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
I can actually imagine headlines in New York reading:
“Lowly Orioles Win World Series”
So I wouldn’t count on that ever happening.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 27, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So without going into too much detail about it
I’m sorta back together with pink jersey. But we were talking last night and she said she’s finally not upset about the Phillies losing, but just doesn’t know what she’s gonna do until baseball season starts back up in February. How can i stay mad at a girl who thinks baseball season starts when pitchers and catchers report?
Seriously. February.
I think that makes up for the pink jersey as far as baseball-related relationship issues.
It's definitely a point in her favor
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Not knowing what to do through the winter is also a positive in that sense.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Giggity
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The foundation is there
Hell, my gf was a Yankees fan when I met her. The point was that she was a baseball fan and actually knew her shit. Now she’s a well versed O’s fan and all is well.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm gonna steal that line in case I do something stupid and the guy gets mad at me
“How can you stay mad at a girl who thinks baseball season starts when pitchers and catchers report????”
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Fun stories
Displaced Rangers fan quits his job to watch the World Series
It’s the Rangers. I’ve loved the Rangers for so long. They haven’t been to the playoffs since ‘99. They’ve gone through so much since then. I really couldn’t miss this.
and
Fans Furious at Ticketmaster for canceled Yankees games
I work in what we’re now euphemistically calling “fan support,” which means my direct contact with customers is almost always “hey this dude is pissed off/thinks I’m lying to him/cannot grasp basic concepts of logic, you need to take over my call.”
Add to this the fact that Yankees fans are (unsurprisingly) not the easiest people to deal with, and playoff time is always high stress at my job. We don’t broker every team, but we do sell the Yankees, so if it looks like they’re going to make it to the play-offs we begin selling tickets for every home game they might POTENTIALLY play. So, 3 home games in the division series, four in the league championship.
So, when the Yankees didn’t win enough games to get home field advantage, obviously some of the games were canceled. As a result, we got a lot of angry calls from fans demanding to know why WE canceled their games. This is hilarious because it not only feeds in to the general consensus that our company has the power to just cancel events at our leisure (which, for the record, we do not), but also because Yankees fans apparently have no idea how baseball works.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Equally good is this motion 'filed' by a texas lawyer to push his court date so he can go to Game 1:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/40186322/Greatest-Filing-Ever-From-a-Texas-Rangers-Fan
“It should be pointed out that ARod a/k/a AFraud took a called third strike to end the series and secure the pennant for the Rangers. It has no significance to this Motion other than the fact that Darrell likes to point it out as much as possible.”
My beef with ticketmaster is that
if you purchase tickets for an event in the future (like game 6 of the 2008 World Series), and ‘if necessary’ becomes ‘Phillies win weird 2 day game that should have been called with the Phillies up in the 5th inning, but Bud Selig made sure they waited for the Rays to tie the score before calling it so he wouldn’t have to acknowledge that the game shouldn’t have been started in the first place, and didn’t want to have a weather shortened WS game, and didn’t want to have to break all MLB officiating rules in a single ex post facto ruling that he later admitted that he would have broken anyway if it came down to it’… wait what was I talking about?
Oh yeah, ticketmaster doesn’t refund the convenience charge for ordering unnecessary tickets, or the 10 bucks they charge you for the printing option (which is cheaper than mailing the tickets, which they also don’t refund). So I still ended up paying like $30 bucks for 2 tickets to a game that never got played. And ticketmaster makes thousands of dollars in fees off of all of the schmucks who buy advanced tickets to playoff games when their team is in it in September, and doesn’t make the playoffs.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I have plenty of issues with ticketmaster
I hate their guts. I buy at the box office whenever possible.
That’s not actually the point of the story, though.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I know
but I consider dealing with Yankees fans’ corporate karma. So I don’t feel that bad for her.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
you are just filled with IG mojo today
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
If only Uggs would be willing to move to 3rd or 1st.....
http://www.fishstripes.com/2010/10/27/1777279/dan-uggla-traded-if-not-signed
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
I know there has been much mocking of the cupcakes around these parts
But what do you think of a wine and cupcake bar?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
i think one would ruin the other if eaten together
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Not necessarily
but you’re either making some very unusual cupcakes or very much limiting the sort of wine you can serve. I think its probably too small of a niche to succeed.
That I agree with
Although it seems from the article that it’s most of the times a regular restaurant and only sometimes a wine and cupcake bar.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I don't
Wine? good
Cupcakes? good
Wine + cupcakes? GOOD
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Have you never eaten chocolate cake with a glass of red wine?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
what about a vanilla cupcake with a glass of Meritage?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Do not want.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a fan of either of those things.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
maybe try a cupcake and "pinnacle whipped cream vodka" bar
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 27, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
SALISBURY, of all places, has a cupcake place
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Salisbury-MD/Cake-Art/254589364887
And they’re really, really good.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
You're assuming they don't
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
is it called "Hickcakes"?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
So, Stacey's question of the day is a good one
but it’s logical conclusion is what does your intrepretation of the Orioles’ goal for the season mean for their offseason? Is the improvement of Jones, Wieters, etc. helped or hurt by short-term stopgap corner infielders? Is defense or offense the priority? Etc.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
I think offense has to be a priority
The Orioles were second to last in runs last year. Their pitching sucked also, but there is reasonable expectation that will improve with the young pitchers. But the offense is anemic. The infield is a black hole of suck.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I think Brian Roberts
Will greatly change the face of the lineup if healthy. The leadoff hitter was a gaping weakness much of the year. His defined role in the lineup is completly underrated. Again, its not gonna turn us into the Yanks or anything but I think it’ll go a long way to have a table-setter like him back and healthy (hopefully).
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
If Brian is healthy then I agree somewhat
But I think that he’s hardly a lock for that. Also, even if he’s healthy, there is still first base, shortstop, and third base that are just barren.
I’m not a fan of short term fixes either, but if you can get some kind of answer for one or two of those, short term fix might be the only logical answer for the other. You cannot just throw Josh Bell back out there.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You also can't just throw Ty Wigginton out there.
Except I fear that’s exactly what we are going to do.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
we did give up the most runs of any team in 2010.
I mean, the defense – particularly in the infield – was atrocious.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Agreed
The infield defense was abysmal. But I gotta stick with the offense has priority. I just looked on Fangraphs for wRC at the infield positions. I left 2B out because it’s not something that will be addressed in the offseason
First Base:
TBR: 87
NYY: 113
BOS: 114
TOR: 84
BAL: 59
Shortstop:
TBR: 65
NYY: 88
BOS: 93
TOR: 83
BAL: 36
Third Base:
TBR: 94
NYY: 119
BOS: 110
TOR: 85
BAL: 64
It’s nauseating.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
All I know is that
even with whatever upgrades we can make to those three positions, we still aren’t going to be winning any slugfests in New York with such a porous defense, and the potential mental and physical effect on the young pitchers for continuing to give up so many base hits that should not be weighs very heavily in my mind more than the potential mental and physical effect of the hitters not getting the RBI that the Sun writers think they need.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Yeah, this is more where I am.
And it’s why I’m okay with another year of Izzy if it comes to that… though someone better on defense than Wiggy at third would be nice, which is why I would’ve been okay with grabbing Inge.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I guess you need to take it person by person
and just find the best possible player for each position. If the most production you can get out of third base is Ty Wigginton, then it’s Ty Wigginton. If it’s Nick Punto, then it’s Nick Punto. But in terms of tiebreakers when it’s close, I’d substitute offense for defense.
This doesn’t mean I’m in favor of Izturis. We can do better than him.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Yeah, I basically agree.
Part of my problem is not being familiar enough with a lot of other players to see where there’s a small but measureable upgrade. I don’t especially want Izzy back or Wiggy playing every day, really, but I’m not gonna be upset if that’s what happens for one more year.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
this isn't actually true
I took it at face value until I started looking at some numbers on BR.
Runs allowed:
30. PIT 866
29. KCR 845
28. ARI 836
27. MIL 804
26. BAL 785
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I mean, it's still sucky, but you know
We’re #26!
It’s also the first time the O’s have allowed less than 800 runs since 2002. The runs scored is the most embarrassing thing, they went from 741 in 2009 to 613 in 2010.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
dang, I really don't even know what I was looking at when I said that
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
So...focus on the offense?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
oh, I know what it was
I was looking at 2009.
Anyway, we’re talking about first base, third base, and shortstop. I’d focus on offense at first certainly (and probably third), but shortstop has to remain defense-based. Which is still not a vote for Cesar.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
I'll trade a little defense at SS to get above, I don't know, .310 OBP
Cesar had a .277 OBP. I can’t get over it.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
me neither
we need a mediocre bat, not a dead albatross tied to an anchor dragging Atlas – and the entire world – along with it.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
oh agreed
A guy with good defense at shortstop and a mediocre bat would be fine with me provided they get offense at the corners. I totally agree that Izzy is not that guy.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'm not really in the mood for short-term fixes at all
I know this doesnt exactly answer your question. But we’ve seen what short-term fixes do for us…. waste a lot of money. I don’t want to see more Millwoods or Atkins. Lets just continue to build for the future and not bring guys in here that aren’t going to help us make the best run we possible can 2-5 years from now. Especially with no quality FAs out there that are going to make a shit ton of difference anyway.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
well somebody has to play first
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Yeah... I guess I like Luke over there.
Not very creative, but I think he can fit the bill.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Wiggy on third maybe…. Reimold DH (if he gets his head out of his ass).
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You don't think Wiggy is a short term fix?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well.... he's at least not a 'new' short-term fix
Not that it really matters I guess.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand though
nothing was more mentally draining than watching Garret Atkins be on this team last year. The production was obivously horrible, but just knowing that we went out and got him to come in here and be that bad was really depressing. If we just kept Wigginton and his brand of suck, that’s a heckuva lot easier to deal with than hiring some ass-sucking mercenary.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Thats what I'm saying
We pretty much know what we’re gonna get from Wiggy.
It was entirely depressing knowing we blew 23-23 million on that crop of shit last year (Gonzo came on at the end but for the most part he was nowhere).
I would much rather just overpay an A-lister 23 million (Holliday), not that that’s a guarantee they’d come here.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
A mediocre bat and crappy defense?
Sign me up!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Better than a shit bat and shitty defense
I like Holliday
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
How the heck is he a mediocre bat???
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wiggy, not Holliday :)
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Kinda figured that out after the fact
Im a donkey
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Or maybe we get lucky and something 'clicks' with Bell....
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Bell needs more time in the minors
He was completely not ready for what he went through last year.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I guess its pretty evident
At the very least we are going to need one more bat.
Again, at the VERY least.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't see MacPhail going out and doing what he did last year.
Not sure if he’ll be reluctant after getting kind of burned or if the FA pool is just that barren this year.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 27, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The FA pool blows this year
Other than Lee, Crawford, and Werth, it’s terrible. Andy is gonna have to whip up some trades. Or decide that someone like Atkins is the answer again, in which case I may revolt.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I say we approach 2011 as a mulligan on 2010.
Maybe it’s easier for me to take this approach, since I only started paying attention again for the ‘09 season, but we really did not accomplish any of the things in ’10 that we set out to do — though there was a glimmer of hope once Buck came on board. We jerked Tillman around, put Hernandez back in the rotation for a while when he clearly belongs in the pen, brought and kept Arrieta up when he could’ve kept working on control in the minors, and lost our LF platoon to injuries and personal problems for most of the year. I think the only new things we learned about our young guys are that Matusz is gradually improving and Markakis may never hit 20 homers again.
So it seems to me that we need to do this year what we couldn’t (or didn’t) do last year: see a full year’s worth of at-bats from Pie (mostly LF) and Reimold (mostly DH), find out if Luke can handle 1B adequately, and give Tillman a full year in the majors. That still leaves 3B and SS free, but I don’t know if there are any signable options out there significantly better than Wiggy and Izzy. And I’m really wary of trading anybody right now — especially when we’re talking about guys like Mark Reynolds (Ks are fine, but that many is scary, and he’d be coming from the NL West to the AL East) or Jason Bartlett (defense has been falling off for the past couple of years, and his bat is mediocre besides ’09).
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Where did that come form?
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Conan O'Brien, talking about trying to get his IP from NBC to use on his new show
i thought it was better presented without context.
ESPN Insider Account
Tanga.com is offering ESPN insider account (and oh yeah, you get the print magazine as well) for $3 if you use the coupon code SPORTS. Does anyone have an account? Do they still have the ridiculous 1 computer log on rule?
Your mother.
As in, you can only be logged in on one computer at a time?
No, I’ve never had any issues with that.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Right, I figured.
I’m logged in at both work and home, and it works fine for me. Sometimes it seems to boot me off of one or both if I log in on a third computer, but I don’t have any issues if it’s just those two.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Agree w. Stacey and Vuff
I also disagreed with paying millions to sign Atkins and Gonzales. We didn’t need Gonzales because a sub .500 team doesn’t need a first class closer. He cost us millions plus a second round draft pick. The recent prospect lists show that our farm system is depleted, so we need prospects and not a 2 year deal for a closer. We also didn’t need Atkins, who looked really washed up before we got him.
I attribute these mistakes to AM’s ’07 pledge that we would be a much better team in three years. 2010 became this arbitrary deadline to field a competitive team. He should have told the fans that we had hit rock bottom (bad ML team bad Farm System, bad scouting and development, and no international presence) and that it would take 5-10 years to repair the mess from the bottom up. I say “botom up” because the money must be devoted to the building blocks first. Instead, he spent a lot of money on Millwood, Atkins, and Gonzo to give us a quick fix that might get the team to .500. I say, who cares about getting to .500. I want a good team.
So, for 2010, please: put Wiggy at 3rd. Luke at First. Reimold at DH. Play Pie all year in left. Keep Izzie at short. Cut Lugo and put anyone else in the utility role. Don’t sell any of our precious few prospects for a middle aged player who will be done 3-4 years from now.
As to the question of the day: we will know we have turned the corner when our farm system is in the upper 24%.
Sigh
one again i’ve managed to go to the gym, but then come home and eat everything in sight, defeating the purpose of going in the first place.
no that's exactly the purpose of going!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
by O'sFan21 on Oct 27, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'll consider next season a success...
…if at the end of it I don’t still feel that I’m a fan of the stupidest organization in the AL East.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
true
What sucks is that while MacPhail > Flanagan, merely adequate won’t get it done in this division. I do think that Yankees might be taking a step back next year or the year following.
Librarians are hiding something
Which they will
So forget about that step backwards
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 27, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
that's given then
because all of the AL East teams are very smartly run. I think I would even take Alex Anthopoulos over Andy MacPhail.
Your mother.
Good luck with that, friend
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Koji pic
Love the Koji Pic.
However, I hope we offer him arbitration and he goes somewhere else. I think the pick is more valuable than having him on the 2011 team.
Librarians are hiding something
yes he is, he's a type B free agent
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
hahahahaha
(deep breath)
hahahahahaha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu6IM02ehXw
what if the nurse caring for you . . . was high?!
Reefer Madness still in full effect
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 27, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Is anybody using the mlb.tv postseason companion coverage?
Can you actually watch the games live or is it only highlights and shit? The WS is blacked out for my parents because of that stupid dispute and they are trying to watch the games.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You can watch games live
but you only get the raw camera feeds instead of the actual tv production. Its far from ideal, but its probably better than nothing.
Yeah, tv and radio i think
it may make sense to listen to the radio broadcast since the tv broadcast may not always makes sense since you don’t know whats actually supposed to be seeing on tv. Also, you wont have to listen to Joe Buck.
haha not listening to Joe Buck is a huge plus
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
just TV
You get the TV audio feed, which is interesting when there are interviews or they play a recorded highlight because you of course don’t see any of that. I’ve been using the PostseasonTV and have actually been pretty pleased with it. You can watch up to four feeds at once, although they don’t always line up with each other. Also, if your computer is a few years old (like mine), watching four feeds at once can seriously slow shit down. I usually settle on two feeds.
I think I love Humphrey Bogart
We watched a clip of Casablanca in English class and I can’t get over how sexy his voice is.
I'm back. YAY SUMMER!
Heres lookin at you kid.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 27, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
You're good. You're every good.
wrong movie, but Maltese Falcon is way superior anyways.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Not that I'm wasting time or anything....
http://www.123games.dk/game/other/goldminer/goldminer.htm
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
These are 2 stats that I hope we improve on next yr:
LOB/R:
Tor – 1.34
NYY – 1.43
TB – 1.44
BOS – 1.47
BAL – 1.86
It’s depressing that we leave half a base runner on per run more than the rest of the division. There was nothing worse than those games that we lost 6-1, with 14 runners left on base.
Save Percentage:
TB – 76%
Tor – 74%
NYY – 68%
BOS – 67%
BAL – 56% (worst in majors and it’s not really that close)
I lied, there were worse things than those games when we left runners on base. Those 3 games in the first week that ended in BS, and those two games we lost to the Douchenozzles when Koji was the closer, and each of the countless times Simon served up a gopher ball.
If we improve on those 2 things, I think it will be a successful year. Clearly we will win more games, and also the losses won’t be quite as frustating.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I understand and agree with your point about not losing any games in late innings
but there has to be a better metric to evaluate that by than save percentage
Yeah, I don't like it either,
but it’s the stat that was available to me that proves the point that we lost games that we should have won. And memory serves me that a lot of those BS were legitimate, end of game situations.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I think both of your issues are good ones
but they are only symptoms of the real issues (obviously)
bullpen ERA/FIP: 4.44/4.25 (24th/25th)
starters IP: 947.2 (24th)
Team BA/OBP/SLG: .259/.316/.386 (13th/24th/22nd)
That our relievers couldn’t hold many games is obvious since they could really be trusted with any games, and yet were entrusted with way more games and innings than the average team.
That our offense didn’t hit with runners on is obvious since they didn’t hit (or rather, they hit “okay” but didn’t hit for extra bases or get on base) much in any situation at all.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
The stats I really want to look at are
BA/RISP, % of runs scored with runner on 3rd and less than 2 out, W/L when leading after 7. I think they will all show weakness above and beyond the general ‘we suck at hitting and pitching’. I can’t seem to find those stats, though. I am sure they are out there, but my googling has come up empty.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
sure
but what causes runners to be driven in from scoring position? It’s like, my doctor might want to find out my cholesterol level, but what he’s probably really interested in knowing is how many cheeseburgers I’m eating, because that is what we can actually try to fix and control.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
One thing that probably causes them not to be driven in is swinging at pitches outside the strike zone
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Is LOB/R
Is that something that varies greatly from year to year? It seems like that has more to do with chance than skill. Or am I totally wrong about that?
Librarians are hiding something
High correlation with slugging percentage...
obviously you can’t leave anybody on base if you hit a homerun. But we outslugged Oak and Cle, and they still had a better LOB/R than we did.
We just seemed to have had a low BA/RISP this year (which I can’t find a team stat for anywhere). Is that a matter of chance? I suppose a little. But I think it’s also a culture thing. They were used to failing. When the bases are loaded with no outs, and I am sitting on my couch thinking “How are they going to screw it up this time?”, I know the same thought is bouncing around somewhere in the hitter’s head, even if he’s a professional.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
high correlation still leaves a lot to randomness
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
All baseball stats have at least a degree
of chance and randomness.
If this one improves (whether it is through better clutch hitting or dumb luck doesn’t matter) they will win more games, and I will be more happy (those two things have 100% correlation).
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
2004
I think it was 2004 (maybe ‘05) that they were amazing with RISP, so I’m not sure how much of it is a culture thing vis a vis a crappy players thing/bad luck thing. It seems like RISP is just a thing that is totally random, though obv SLG isn’t, or at least to a much less degree given variance of BABIP.
It seems like pre-Buck, the team was super unlucky (despite the mentor), and post Buck maybe a little more lucky than good.
I don’t mean to sound smarmy btw!
Librarians are hiding something
I'm sure it varies from year to year
I just hope that it varies in a good way next year. Whether it was culture, bad luck, poor slugging or whatever, the fact remains that we stranded a lot of runners on base compared to the number of runs that we scored (only SEA was worse in the AL). I hope we don’t do that next year (by improving our positive thinking, finding a 4 leaf clover, or hitting more x-base hits).
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
i'll take the more extra base hits
Or maybe that motivational speaker from the Natural
Librarians are hiding something
Just noticed a weird/freaky stat about the LCS's
They both ended with called third strikes to the each team’s clean-up hitter. That’s gotta be a first.
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
We know already...
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Money still guaranteed to said cleanup hitters:
A-Rod: $180 million through 2017
That contract’s actually front-loaded. Will A-Rod be worth $20 million in 2017? Who knows. But it’s better for them than paying him $30 mill all the way through. He also receives $6 million each for home runs # 660, 714, 755, 762 and 763. Currently at 613 home runs. Nothing’s certain, but that’s probably good odds for $30 million more.
Ryan Howard: $145 million through 2016 ($10 million buyout on 2017 option included)
Man… what the hell is the point of having a $10 million buyout? Every time I look at that Howard contract, it looks stupider than the last time.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Howard's new contract hasn't even started yet, think about that.
because Amaro was obviously HIGH.
Your mother.
What if the GM running your favorite team.......
was HIGH?
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 27, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he was more drunk than high
A lot of his moves seemed wreckless, not crazy overly thought out.
Librarians are hiding something
Amaro was high on RBIs.
Truly a dangerous substance.
Seriously though, after the ridiculous arbitration hearing that first time, I thought they did a sensible thing, more or less keep him in at some fixed price they can budget for ahead of time and then it seemed like they would just let someone else overpay him by the time he was a free agent, past his prime and likely to have his skillset declining. Then they went and locked him up long-term and that theory went out the window.
He will be 31 years old next year and he will seemingly never get a hit against a left-handed reliever from the 7th inning on. No, I’m being harsh. That’s observation bias from the playoffs. His slash against lefties in 2010 was .264/.333/.492. Overall slash line of .276/.353/.505 – so a better OBP than every Oriole except Markakis and Scott and a better SLG than every Oriole except Scott. Both of those statements are still true for the lefty slash line, although you add Brian Roberts on the OBP side.
So I mean, that’s definitely a guy you wouldn’t have minded having on your baseball team this year. But I feel like starting in 2013 you probably won’t really want him on your baseball team… and he’s signed for three seasons beyond that. Yikes.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention how much it'll hamstring the organization
with this one guy chomping down all those dollars that can’t go to the more premium positions (like, say, signing Jayson Werth).
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Yeah,
I can see Howard being productive but overpaid for most of that contract. But Philly seems to be topping out around $150 million per year… and once that new contract starts, 1/6 of their seeming max payroll will be Ryan Howard. That’s just crazy.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
The deal...
probably was excessive (as was A-Rod’s), the fact that it went that high is a testament to poor general managership, but I don’t think he’s off to some precipitous decline – def. not so much that he’s a guy you don’t want in 2013.
Consider the fact that he’s playing in a sport (baseball) without a salary cap, and for a team (Phillies) that can seemingly afford to overpay a bit for the odd player, his deal isn’t near the hinderance it would be on a team like the Orioles.
Additionally, I don’t get the Jayson Werth thing. He’s good, sure. But he’s not worth big money either. His versatility and ability to play competent defense notwithstanding, the Phillies can probably take the hit of losing him in FA if it nets them Cliff Lee.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 27, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Werth had the ninth-highest wOBA in the majors in ‘10 (granted, probably some BABiP luck this year and all that). Since ’08, his average slash line is something like .275/.375/.510. And he’s the only righty bat with much power that the Phillies have. Losing him is going to hurt.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Well when Jayson Werth was Nick Markakis' age, he sucked
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
that's true
Jayson Werth didn’t blossom until 28. Nick is entering his age 27 season. Sometimes lightness has a call that’s hard to hear.
Your mother.
between the Indigo Girls and the Friends references
you’re totally my favorite.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
James would like to have a chat with you.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
Don't you worry, youngin'
James knows how I feel about him. Even if he has abandoned us lately.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 7:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was going to say ZK and then Duck
but then i remembered something about James. Don’t call me youngin’ Ms. Stacey or i might just have to bring up what kba wanted me to call you.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
you are the one who brought it up
something bout aunty stacey but for some reason i cant recall why. Don’t worry stacey i would never call you that.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
I barely remember it
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I think both of you were drunk.
In fact all of CC was drunk except BSF and I that night.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
I can confirm that
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a good bet on most nights.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 27, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people and alcohol
tsk tsk.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
That doesn't really narrow things down.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 27, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like to congratulate everyone
On all the good baseball talk today. A very good workout in preparation for hot stove season.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 27, 2010 7:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think this is the most baseball we have talked about in a couple of Bird Droppings.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
we getting a ginats-rangers thread up>
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 27, 2010 7:44 PM EDT reply actions
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