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World Series Game 2: Texas Ranger (0) @ San Francisco Giants (1), 7:57 PM

SAN FRANCISCO - OCTOBER 27:  Aubrey Huff #17 of the San Francisco Giants dives to field a balll at first base hit by Ian Kinsler #5 of the Texas Rangers in Game One of the 2010 MLB World Series at AT&T Park on October 27 2010 in San Francisco California.  (Photo by Jed Jacobsohn/Getty Images)

After sending out some scrub who couldn't even go five innings yesterday, the Rangers turn to C.J. Wilson to try and help them tie the series at one game apiece.

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So when John Henry and others purchased Liverpool FC I wondered if their was such a thing a sabermetrics for soccer. I guess I found my answer…

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2010/oct/28/liverpool-tom-werner-nesv-baseball

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 28, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Even though I do enjoy watching soccer,

I’ll admit that I don’t know much about analyzing it. But that article uses some bad arguments. Statistics can be used for baseball, but not for soccer because it can’t judge courage, heart, and dedication? People still make those arguments about baseball. And they’re horrible.

by ahoque24 on Oct 28, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Voros McKraken was really into soccer statistics

soccer is obviously a lot harder because it isn’t broken into individual one on one events like baseball is…but of course it can still be done…but it’s a lot like the problem with defensive statistics.

No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.

by Andrew_G on Oct 28, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I feel that if you want to say that statistics won't work in soccer,

you should argue that it’s harder to break up events into individual contributions than in baseball. I still don’t like that argument, because statistics are now being applied to hockey, football, and basketball. They still haven’t been as well-accepted as in baseball, but they do exist.

So, yes, I agree. It’s much harder, but it’s still possible.

by ahoque24 on Oct 28, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just want to say the name Voros McKraken some more

No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.

by Andrew_G on Oct 28, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect James Bond villain name

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 28, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Voros McKraken

I can see why. This is fun.

by ahoque24 on Oct 28, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also just realized

that the article assumes, like a lot of people, that sabermetrics is synonymous with Moneyball. The philosophy of Moneyball was to look at skills that other GMs didn’t look at to find undervalued talent. Getting on base was a skill that most of the league didn’t look at at the time. That’s changed. The Red Sox don’t use Moneyball, they just use statistics, because it’s a smart thing to do. They still spend a shit load of money.

by ahoque24 on Oct 28, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many necklaces is Wilson wearing?

It looks like he has a triple one of those phiten ones and then like two more that look like electrical cords.

America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 28, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm streaming this gam online.

It’s a stream of ESPN America. They just showed an ad that said, “2010 World Series: Coming Soon.” It’s coming so soon 10 innings have already been played.

by ahoque24 on Oct 28, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I'm from NoVa and in Charlottesville, VA right now.

Both commentators can be linked with the O’s though: the drunken Rick Sutcliffe and Gary Thorne, who doesn’t have to be playoffless like us fans.

by ahoque24 on Oct 28, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinsler always looks so disappointed in things

No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.

by Andrew_G on Oct 28, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sure this has been said before, but

I still can’t believe that a team with a starting lineup that includes Edgar Renteria, Juan Uribe, Aubrey Huff, and Cody Ross is in the World Series.

by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Oct 28, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Rangers ain't exactly reppin' the AL well here!

Oh well. At least they beat the Yankees.

America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow

by Eat More Esskay on Oct 28, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Epic bullpen meltdown in the 8th.

The Giants had the good sense to stand there and let them beat themselves.

by typozzz on Oct 29, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's hard enough to root for these d-bags as it is!

I mean, it’s no fun being owned by George W. Bush — as the entire country can testify — but these guys should be way past that. Cowboy up, you seedy drovers. This ain’t the Phillies, it’s the Giants — a good match-up for the Hiroshima Carp, fer cripe sakes…

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Oct 29, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

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