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Rumor: Orioles to hire Jim Presley as hitting coach

From Britt Ghiroli:

With Tuesday's news that longtime Orioles hitting coach Terry Crowley will move to a hitting evaluator position, a Major League source said on Friday that he expects Jim Presley to soon sign a two-year deal to become Buck Showalter's hitting coach in Baltimore.

Read Ghiroli's full account at the link for details on Presley's career. There is no timetable for an official announcement.

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Those who can't, teach

(that’s for you, duck)

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 29, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sucked as a HS wrestler

and have coached two state champs.

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 29, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's an extension to that saying

My Dad was a standout basketball, baseball, soccer player in HS and went on to teach Phys. Ed. for 38 years. He always disagreed with the saying but said if it is true there’s another line to it: “Those who can’t teach become administrators.”

by Chief O'Flyers on Oct 30, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

who cares what his career player stats were?

I’d like to know, but am too lazy to look up, how the offenses he’s coached have done.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Oct 29, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I glimpsed at Arizona's numbers while he was there

They had a putrid team the first season, dominated the NL in the second season, then fell back to about league average in the third season.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 29, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The triple slash line numbers from 07-09 Florida are pretty impressive.

Consistently top tier. They hovered around league average for taking BBs, and did strike out a lot, but managed to maintain high OBP/SLG/OPS numbers through BA and mashing the ball.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 29, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

or perhaps I should say..

any indicator of the approach he instructs to his hitters.

by Dingbat Charlie on Oct 29, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

See Weaver, Earl.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 29, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

"The only thing Earl knows about major league pitching is he couldn't hit it."

Right, Jim Palmer?

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Oct 29, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of these guys,

if anyone hasn’t seen this video and has about 45 minutes to kill, I highly recommend it. It’s the interview they did on the day of that 1970 WS celebration back in June. Palmer, Boog, Frank, Blair, Brooks, Davey, and Earl are present.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Oct 29, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'ed

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 29, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

and I don’t know his teaching approach, so I’m not bashing him or the hire.

by Dingbat Charlie on Oct 29, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to look at this and hopefully will soon.

But I think you have to look at who his players were as well and their talent level, maybe how individual players improved or didn’t under him, etc. You can’t just look at the numbers.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 29, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely

I remember when somebody did the analysis of Crowley’s impact on the various teams he took over (was that you??) it was pretty interesting.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Oct 29, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No wasn't me

But I’ll hopefully do something similar on Presley. Might wait until an official announcement is made so that it’s not a waste of my time :)

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 29, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt he had some incredible talent to work with in Fla

Hanley, Uggla, Miguel Cabera early on, Josh Willingham, etc…
Of course, even Mike Jacobs managed to produce while there. So maybe he does have some sort of hitting-voodoo.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 29, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beckett, D-train, Burnett...

oh, wait, you mean they’re no good anymore?

FREE LAVELLE HAWKINS
I <3 Pat McAfee

by danielreese05 on Oct 29, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

and of course

I totally miss the boat on the whole “hitting-voodoo” thing, not anything remotely to do with pitching…

FREE LAVELLE HAWKINS
I <3 Pat McAfee

by danielreese05 on Oct 29, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to his Wikipedia page

When he was a player his nickname was Hound Dog.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Oct 29, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Nick M

I hope that he does not try to turn Nick into a home run hitter. Or, if he does, I hope that Nick has the good sense to remain patient at the plate. According to Moneyball, the Red Sox badgered Wade Boggs to swing for the fences, but he refused.

by BaltoBen on Oct 29, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Presley's philosophies

Anyone have any luck finding an interview with him? I’ve been on google for 20 minutes with no luck!

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Oct 29, 2010 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Presley's philosophies

besides not stepping on his blue suede shoes, not sure.

Your mother.

by birdman on Oct 29, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I blame....

my Terry Crowley poll.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Oct 29, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Then you should put up a poll asking who the O's should sign this offseason

with the choices being Cliff Lee or Carl Crawford.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 29, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

or both

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 29, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

34+/- years

I have know JP for many years. Played HS ball with him under Fred Waters. Not that it has anythig to do with his coaching philosophy but I think you’ll find him a solid hitting coach. He is a real baseball guy with a knack for communicating with younger players….

by SHWNC on Nov 1, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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