Friday Bird Droppings
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IN THE PLAYOFFS
Rangers up 2-0, on cusp of first ALCS | MLB.com: News
No playoff experience? No problem. Playing on the road? Bring on room service. Playing against the mighty American League East? Bring on the beast.
Pettitte, Berkman lead Yanks' show on the road | MLB.com: News
After opening the seventh with a walk to Jorge Posada, Pavano benefited from home-plate umpire Hunter Wendelstedt's called strike on the outside part of the plate early in the count to Berkman.
14K diamond! SF's Lincecum sparkles in gem | MLB.com: News
Lincecum, who has pitched four regular-season shutouts, including a two-hitter, fell short of his career-high strikeout total by one
ORIOLES NEWS
CSX and City Year Team Up With Ravens and Orioles to Transform Solo Gibbs Park - MarketWatch
City Year, the Alliance for Community Trees, Tree Baltimore, the Baltimore Ravens, the Baltimore Orioles and Sharp-Leadenhall Community will bring together 100 volunteers to transform Solo Gibbs Park, which was established in the late 1700s.
School of Roch: Are Orioles showing an ace with Guthrie?
Do the Orioles have a true No. 1 on their roster?
Steve Melewski: The five biggest developments of Buck Ball
Here is one man's take, ranking them from five to one, on the biggest developments with the club under Buck Showalter.
Orioles: Jeff Zrebiec's 2010 Orioles superlatives - baltimoresun.com
A look at some of the best and worst of the Orioles' 2010 season
Orioles Insider: No decision yet on coaching staff - Baltimore Orioles: Schedule, news, analysis and opinion on baseball at Camden Yards - baltimoresun.com
The Orioles have made no definitive decisions on Buck Showalter’s coaching staff for 2011, meaning an announcement may not come until next week. “We’re still mulling some things over,” Showalter said Thursday afternoon. “No concrete decisions have been made.”
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Hey Roch: 'Member when some dimbulb journo told Sid he was the "ace" of our staff? And Sid believed it?
The concept has never recovered.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
So...
In a hurry, everything’s a quote today, so don’t think any of this stuff is original. Ran out of time
Psh – it didn’t work for Jayson Blair, why should that excuse work for you?
J./K – Go Philip Merrill School of Journalism!
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions
Attribution is a beautiful thing.
And Blair never GRADUATED from UMd Journalism. Of course, I don’t think SVP did, either.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
No...
But Pelecanos and Simon did, among others.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Like me. c/o '90!
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I had dinner with my wife in College Park...
last night and walked past the Thirsty Turtle (where Terrapin Station used to be) and saw a sign that said “You cannot enter/drink if born after 10/07/1989”. Very, very creepy.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Alomar getting sued again
His wife is suing him, saying he had unprotected sex with her while HIV-positive:
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck/2010/10/alomar_hiv_sad_situation_gets.html
His wife was his girlfriend back when the first allegations surfaced from an ex-girlfriend. Crazy.
I swear, I had that in the first version of BD that crashed
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
A headline on Yahoo says that Mariano Rivera
“could build a log cabin out of all the wood he has destroyed.”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Yeah...
they said the same thing about Janet Reno too.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I feel it was kinda begging for a "that's what she said"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I like his response better
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
me too
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 8, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
And to think I took a shot at a Democrat for you!
Don’t worry, BSF will be here to “that’s what she said” that for you when he gets home from school.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I have no clue who Janet reno is.
"When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." - Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 8, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Here ya go...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=janet+reno
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I like the way you think.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what they say about great minds and all.....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Holy. Shit.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember Janet Reno's Dance Party?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
DANCE PARTY TAKES AWAY WACO!
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Article on more umpire mishaps
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-twinsyankeesumpires100710
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
this too
http://joeposnanski.si.com/2010/10/08/bad-calls-in-baseball/?eref=sihp
Articles complain about blown calls in the playoffs. Why stop there? These umps are supposed to be the best in the game and umpiring on merit. You know bad calls happen with this frequency throughout the year. Maybe a replay system will help with some of the egregious issues. Will it bring ‘legitimacy’? I doubt it.
Football has replay and it and it helps, but I can’t watch a game without still questioning the ‘legitimacy’ of an outcome after watching uneven refereeing. A brush to the QB’s head is a penalty if said QB is of significant stature. Ditto for a number of QB related penalties. The defensive secondary is routinely called for phantom pass interference, but it is maddeningly inconsistent. Football has replay, but the referees still give plenty of reasons for fans and players to question the legitimacy of a close outcome.
well, football is not at all like baseball
there are no contact plays, very few subjective calls. Safe or out, catch or trap is a heck of a lot cleaner than fouled or not fouled, rough or not rough.
I don’t get why replay in baseball always needs to be compared to football.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Football has kind of fucked up replay for baseball.
It has to be this whole fucking circus and sometimes an idiot ref can still blow a call. Or sometimes it’s truly ambiguous because when you’re trying to determine whether the ball crossed the plane, whether the runner was down by contact before the fumble, etc. and it’s legitimately difficult to make a 100% certain ruling because of all the bodies in the way.
Baseball doesn’t have a lot of bodies in the way. Freeze frame the relevant moment and make the call. This will delay games less than the 4th time Derek Jeter steps out in the same AB.
It's as if every eccentric in the South decided to move north, ran out of gas in Baltimore, and decided to stay. - John Waters
by Eat More Esskay on Oct 8, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
seriously
I can watch a football replay a dozen times in my living room and still not know for sure, but it takes me literally two seconds to figure out the truth in baseball. There’s no comparison for the amount of time this should delay the games, especially considering that when calls get blown players and managers and umps usually argue for a good two minutes.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Also replay in football...
ignores a very pivotal part of the game – penalties.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
So Wendelstedt had a pathetic day behind the plate
Every strike call was subjective. I seriously doubt baseball will allow a replay of ball/strike calls. You will not watch such an umpired game and feel that any sort of justice was done if it happens to reverse a blown steal call.
You will know on TV that Wendelstedt had a pathetic game and it screwed up the game.
Get rid of the ump and use K-zone
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 8, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought KZone required technician input
In particular for the vertical strike zone, a technician inputs the zone somewhere between the armpit and knee. The pitch is then imposed on that manually completed box. Maybe some day that will be automated and used, but surely not without some reservation.
by drj on Oct 8, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure somebody could come up with a standard for that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
re:
Every ball/strike call is subjective. Some calls just aren’t clearly wrong. Balk calls are subjective. Etc.
I am not comparing football replay to baseball replay. I can’t. Baseball has no replay anywhere near comparable for discussion.
I am saying that replay is not some panacea to make on feel assured that outcomes are legitimate. It will help rectify clearly incorrect calls, that it.
Ball/strike calls are subjective?
Laser strike zones, man. We have the technology.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Pitch F/X man...
it’s redic.
The question is how much do we want to remove the human element from officiating. I’m all for instant replay uses on binary judgements (out/safe, fair/foul) but have a hard time seeing much use for it on balls and strikes.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Oct 8, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I think learning and adapting to an umpire’s specific strikezone is very much a part of the game for pitchers and hitters that I want to continue. But there needs to be a lot more transparency and grading on umpires. The strikezone in Minnesota last night will go either completely unpunished, or …well, we’ll never know, and Hunter Wendelstedt will go on being a bad umpire and it’ll look like nobody gives a fuck. Which is wrong.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Really?
I think learning and adapting to an umpire’s specific strikezone is very much a part of the game for pitchers and hitters that I want to continue.
Why? I think it’s silly for a pitcher to get up there, throw quality pitches on the black for balls, and end up walking a guy or two in the process of discovering tonight’s a tight zone. Now he not only knows he has to throw more hitter-friendly pitches, but he has one or more men on base to deal with, when they really shouldn’t be there.
And it’s not like umpires are all consistent once they establish that zone… the zone expands on 3-0 and often shrinks on 0-2, not to mention the occasional simply bad call.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I just like the added complexion and difficulty
and it isn’t like it gives an unfair advantage to pitcher or hitter. They both need to adjust to the strike zone. As for consistency, that’s what I’m saying: force umpires to get more consistent and better overall or discipline them, or better yet reward those who are actually good at their jobs – and make it known that you’re doing it. If you put a carrot on a stick, the ass will move.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Eh, I still don't agree.
You see it as added difficulty, I see it as making people guess things they should already know. But, I don’t feel like arguing. :P
As for the consistency issue: if more discipline overall would fix it, then great, but when you have to deal with the umpires’ union… I don’t know if it’s ever going to get much better.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
well, that's true
but since we’re talking ideals and all…its not like pitch f/x is ever going to be used for balls and strikes
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
It would be so beautiful if it was
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What....everybody takes off on Friday?
There are no holidays or vacation days on Camden Chat!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I'm here, just not doing much.
Kinda like work most days. :P
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I'm here
But I am off on Monday for Columbus Day. Which is just weird.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
ME TOOOOO!!!!!
And we just got a memo authorizing a 2-hour early release today!!!
Boooooooooooooooooom!
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 8, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You did?
We normally get 2 hours before a holiday but nothing today. Jerks.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
2? I only get 1. No fair...
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
That's some crap
I am not, which means no one else should be.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Same here!
Bus is using a holiday schedule and Metro is shutting down stations for work. They say to add 40-60 minutes to my already 2 hour long commute. And the building I work at will be mostly closed, so no AC in the 80 degree heat. Great considering we have no windows or ventilation in our office. Pretty stupid to be at work just so we can say we worked.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 8, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I got that day off too
It said “request off” under the date, but I don’t know for the life of me what I requested that off for. Ravens play on Sunday.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Oct 8, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm definitely not off
20 minutes for lunch at 10:50, straight through to 3:00 after that
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Let's see....
So today’s Must See photo on Si.com really is.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Is Guthrie an Ace?
Really, is that a question? I love Guts and all, but he’s a #3 type guy.
I did love Buck’s quote about the whole label not mattering though!
Librarians are hiding something
I think the question is
do the Orioles need to go out and get an ace this winter, or are we set with Guthrie and the kids? Which is still stupid, because there’s only one ace out there and we ain’t going to touch him…but I thought the buying an “ace” approach was silly last winter, and I think it’s stupid this winter…so, question answered?
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I think if we must go out and buy an ace...
…I think we need one at the plate more than on the mound.
I whole-heartedly agree
but the problem is in what’s available to us…which doesn’t look like much at all.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Compounded by the fact that the O's are not "one player away".
Going out and spending huge money on a single guy probably wouldn’t be worth it, anyway. Best best would be going after a “better” guy at the plate and wait for the superstar in a year or two. Probably the same deal for pitchers as well, but I think the rotation and bullpen actually is pretty damn good if they can keep it up.
I hope not
I’d love him as a DH, but his insistence on playing the field is a deal breaker for me.
Librarians are hiding something
I'd freaking love to have him in the lineup though....
Throw him before Luke and give him a little protection and I like the sound of it.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 8, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
protection's bunk
but if Dunn would consider DHing I’d be all over him. What a hitter. If he totally refuses to DH, well, I’m not gonna pencil in an aging Dunn at first for the next four years. I’ll tear my hair out if I have to watch him over there. I could handle Dunn at first for a year at most.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
twistedlogic endorses this message.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 8, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
Our resources need to go towards the offense at this point. 3B, SS and 1B still need to be addressed. I think we’ll have enough pitching to be dangerous with the kids, hitting, not so much. Look at the rays, they’ve got good pitching (thats not doing well now) but their hitting is struggs. It hurts them because if they fall behind they dont have a chance.
That being said,I still think one more year of waiting and then pounce on two or three FA’s. Could you imagine if we added uggla for 3b, jj hardy for SS and prince fielder for 1B all at once next offseason?
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
cliff lee
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 8, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Point awarded to Stacey
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I do make a very good argument
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Oct 8, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
twistedlogic endores this message.
part duo
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 8, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt be upset if we got lee
But how would we address 1B, 3B and SS then?
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
there ain't no way we're getting cliff lee
The Yankees will give Cliffy Sabathia type money and Andy isn’t going to go there.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
cliff lee
Ok I’ll have a real discussion, although I was tempted to just say cliff lee again and leave it at that. At some point that is kind of asshole-y
1B: Luke in 2011, then Prince
SS: Hell if I know, but your plan calls for Hardy next offseason anyway
3B: I don’t think Uggla will come here to play 3B, he put up a big stink about it when the trade rumors surfaced. How about Beltre?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Prince Fielder
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
the real question is can we fill those holes and sign lee?
If the answer to that is yes, then i’m all for lee, if its choosing between filling those holes and lee. I’m filling those holes, we’ll be ok at SP going forward in theory. Its a shame Uggla wants to stay at 2b, he would fit well in the lineup. I dont know how I feel about Beltre, i think he only tries when he wants to and that he is as talented as any player in baseball. Problem is, only new contracts motivate him.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Not both
Will not happen. There is no way we have enough money and or talent to get both Lee and corner infielders. I think we are better off waiting.
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
I’m not sure why people are even entertaining the thought of getting Cliff Lee once you consider money. I mean raise you hand if you think Andy will spend $150M on Lee given his “grow the arms, buy the bats” mantra.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I've gone on record as saying that the Orioles won't get Cliff Lee
I 100% believe that. I’m just having some fun because I love him.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
We have all the money we need
MASN is a freakin’ printing press.
It comes down to what does Andy and PGA want to spend it on.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I have a good suggestion for them in that case
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
I'm not familiar with him
i was going to suggest cesar izturis
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Do you think we'll have enough money to keep him away from the Yankees?
I hear they need a shortstop.
how mad do you think A-Rod would get
if we just for no reason whatsoever made Cesar Izturis the highest paid player in baseball history? 2 years, 100 million dollars, Izzy. Now go out there and hit .230 something with no power and no walks.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
Free Agent Pool
Out of all the free agents i could see us trying
J.J. Hardy
Brandon Inge
Carl Pavano
Brandon Webb
Freddy Garcia
Thats it I could not see us trying to sign anyone else really. If we sign anyone it will not be this year.
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
Hardy isn't a free agent,
unless the Twins do something crazy and non-tender him. Which would be awesome, but almost certainly isn’t happening.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
JJ Hardy isn't a FA this year
When the Brewers sent him to AAA last year it fucked up his service time.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
anddddddddddddd
I’m going to say “none of the above” minus Hardy of course since he is not, in fact, a FA. Carl Pavano is the only one I’d consider.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Yea sorry
screwed up 2012 is Hardy
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
No worries; it's easy enough to do.
MLBTradeRumors is better about updating that than Cot’s Contracts is… I think Cot’s still lists him for 2011.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
nice
Uggla at 3B would give us a decent hitter plus an above average better than Tejada thirdbaseman.
JJ Hardy would be awesome but i think that with Jeter’s career coming to a close dont you think the Yanks will try to get him also?
I was all for getting Fielder earlier but now that i think bout it could we do better? If not then well he is fine.
With them we could have nice lineup but pitching would still matter. we could stick with the guys we have now and hope we ge some consistancy out of them or we could try and go after Lee.
Over all it is either we get 3 guys or 1. It is not an equal choice.
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
Uggla has above average defense?
I honestly don’t know, but I’ve always felt like he really isn’t that good. Having his bat in the lineup would be awesome though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
He has his moments
I have always liked Uggla i think he would be better at a corner infield position considering he doenst need as much range for 3b compared to 2b.
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
Maybe
we can try to “unretire” Mike Lowell.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
faith
I think the question is how much faith should the Orioles have in the following pitchers:
Guthrie, Matusz, 3E1N, Arrieta and Tillman. Zach Britton should be ready by July I would think. I’m still not very confident in 3E1N, Arrieta and Tillman though. All those guys have serious obstacles to overcome. And while it’s possible they will, I would really doubt all 3 can be effective major league starting pitchers.
Librarians are hiding something
well sure
but they can’t prove themselves if you buy up Ted Lilly and Bronson Arroyo and stick the kids in Norfolk.
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
yuck
Ted LIlly + Arroyo = cellar again
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
I think, in a vacuum, Ted Lilly would be a great addition to the rotation
and probably would be worth several wins over who we would otherwise put out there. I’d be less sold on Arroyo. However, since they both have type A tags hanging over them, I want the Orioles to stay far away from both.
Negative.
I’d be all for Ted Lilly.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
No. Not exaggeration.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I stand corrected.
I’d be all for Ted Lilly.
Minus Type A status.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Unless, of course, we draft a Billy Rowell.
In that case, I’d like a time machine to go back and undraft Rowell Version 2.0 and sign Lilly instead.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Dont take this the wrong way
I would all be for getting Lilly but we have more pressing needs at the moment.
What i was saying was that if we just got one of them in the offseason instead of a bat then that is exactly where we would be.
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
my point was not
that we should go get either (or any) pitcher
"There's going to be a general lack of toast in the neighbourhood this morning. Many many bewildered breakfast faces."
carl crawford
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
ooh
excellent comeback.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Actually
Colby Rasmus, trade Jones, Bell and a pitching prospect for him
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
birdman
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Given your quote,
I don’t want to sign you and find out it’s Dibble.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
birdman needs to stick to what he knows, which is nothing
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
chat room jargon
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
What's wrong with Dibble?
Other than the fact that the O’s would lose their entire female fanbase?
Of course, considering that the attendance at O’s games appears to be about 10 (10 more than Rays games, at least), that would consist of losing approximately 5 people.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
He's also just dumb.
He thinks the Nats are good, remember?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
cliff lee?
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No...but they come to the games on occasion.
Mostly to talk about shoes and purses right behind homeplate.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
sadly, no.
Finding single women at O’s games is wicked tough. Most of them appear to be there with significant others. Totally sucks.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
So if theres a lack of single women at baseball games
that would mean that if one did show up, she’d have pretty good odds, no?
Unless she's there to watch a baseball game, not get hit on.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Actually
The goal of every woman’s life is to find a man to take care of her, so even if she’s there to watch the game, she would obviously drop everything to flirt with any single man willing to give her attention.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
stick with me, muddawg, you'll learn everything you need to know about the ladies
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Should I be taking notes?
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
I'm confused why you weren't already....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
whose to say i was not?
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'" Earl Weaver
Good point.
You know what happens when you assume.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
You reach a logical conclusion without the effort of research?
by kba26 on Oct 8, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Works for the people on Law and Order all the time.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
That makes more sense, thanks for clarifying
Pink-jersey girl actually told me there was some guy in her class who expressed a belief that the only reason girls go to law school is to find a husband. I couldn’t begin to list all the things wrong with that statement.
oh yea....
How was your night with pink jersey?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Not really much to tell
She didnt want to have to go home after class the next day before going to the Phillies games, she she brought her stuff and just crashed at my place.
this.
Although, presumably all the men would be there with their wives and girlfriends, so she shouldn’t have any luck anyways.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
i'm guessing plenty of single guys go to baseball games.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
Though they are also there probably to just watch the game
Its like how i always feel bad for the shot girls at sports bars when theres a big game on. Its very obvious they have no idea how to deal with people not giving them attention.
For the shot girls?
I feel like there is a joke in there somewhere, but nothing witty comes to mind.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Well not THAT bad
more of a ’i’m saying i feel bad so i can laugh at you without seeming like as bad of a person’ kinda way.
well yea...but what is a "shot girl?"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
You know
those girls who walk around bars with the trays of overpriced shots, which they try to sell you based solely on the fact that they’re hot(ish)?
yeah, those gals are great.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
oh....never noticed them.
I guess I was always paying too much attention to the hot bartenders to notice the shot girls.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Have you people not seen Good Will Hunting
Sean, Robin Williams’ character, had tickets to see the Carlton Fisk HR game, but he said, “Sorry boys, I gotta see about a girl.” Baseball game or not, dudes will hit on girls at a game w/o hesitation.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
I can multi-task
Also, thats what instant replay was invented for.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And even if she was there to watch the game and not get hit on
She’d probably be okay with it anyways. Unless of course she’s a Metro rider. In that case, she’d scowl at you and act like you were hitting on her just for saying good morning. Its really hard not to notice the person who is jamming you up against the car door on a packed train.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Sure, if said hitting on happened between innings
or in a very lopsided game.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
nice 90s reference.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I think Pavano is a free-agent this year...
we do need a new mentor. And if he sucks at pitching, he could at least mentor Arrieta in the mystical art of the pornstache.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I could be talked into Pavano honestly
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Other than the pornstache, I'd take him.
He had some flashes of brilliance yesterday.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Got an OT question for the professional workers here
Why in 2010 is the length of a males hair still an issue. I had a job interview this week and the policy is no hair below the collar. I have very fine long hair that is always tied back in a tasteful pony tail. You couldent tell I had long hair if you looked at me from the front. Its not like I have crazy dreads or Troy Palamalu(sp?) hair.
In reality it doesnt matter to me, putting food on the table and paying the bills is much more important than something as trivial as my hair. I just cant see how its a big deal to some companies.
Any insight fellow CC’ers?
Did the job description say...
“Long haired freaky people, need not apply”?
Seriously, though, it might have something to do with the types of clients that you will have to deal with. You didn’t mention what type of job it was, but a lot of places don’t want you to have visible tatoos, or piercings or long hair if you have to deal with third parties or clients on a regular basis.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
shouldnt matter
If it looks clean/professional/well maintained, who cares how long it is. That being said, most guys probably wouldn’t maintain long hair properly. Actually at my firm, unless you are trying to make partner in the near future, I dont think it would matter which is kinda nice.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm having a hard time imagining this:
a tasteful pony tail
There is no way a ponytail on a man is “professional.” It’s just not.
But Redrummer has it right. If you give people an inch they take a mile. We had to take our dress code back to the stone age about six years ago because people were pushing any give in the system to an unacceptable level.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
by killertomato on Oct 8, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand the reason
and like i said I dont really care. It is a job dealing with clients so it makes sense. Its just the first time ive ever run across this, and i frequently work with the public.
Eh I call my pony tail tasteful simply because I have plain straight normal thin hair. The only maintence i need to do is trim split ends and side burn area.
If i get the job all the hair will be donated to locks of love, its down to the middle of my back and if I cant wear it, I’ll want someone who cant grow it to wear it.
I don't understand your reply fail.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Oct 8, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
I deal with clients every day too, but then again, who the hell cares what their auditor looks like.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Its a mobile repair job
So i didnt think it would be an issue as long as I can fix the problem, but I’d be going into office building and law firms and the like. Fixing all your paper jams basically :)
If you don't get the job
you should probably also consider cutting it. Because it’s probably a factor. Unemployment is over 10%. Unless you are like, the last guy in America that can service an AS400, give yourself a fighting chance.
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
killertomato is advocating that you sell out, Blake.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Fight the man Blake.... fight the man.
Eff corporate America.
by Wieters Wieners on Oct 8, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Starvation does wonders for your firgure, anyway
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Look what happened to Metallica when they cut their hair. They sucked after that.
Coincidence? I think not!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 8, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I cried the first time I saw Lars in guyliner
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
No.
I think he should cut it off even if nobody offers him any money to do so. It’s more like “donating out”.
Plus, it’s only a matter of time before that sh!t gets caught in a bus axle. I’m a good Samaritan!
Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10
or donate, and grow it back
That way they would have to actually fire you, and that would be harder to do than not hiring you.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I know, I know
I know that one should cry over spilled milk and that the past cannot be undone. But, every time I see Tim Lincecum I feel the pangs of a slow burn over Rowell. It would not be so bad if Rowell were a decent number 1 choice moving steadily up the minor leagues. What makes it so hurtful is that Rowell is such a bust. His fielding is so poor that his only future in the Majors would be as a DH. His hitting is so poor that we are supposed to be excited about the last month in a pathetic season at Frederick when he broke out and hit .315 or so. Given his third bad season at Frederick in a row, it is hard to make a case for doing anything but sending him back to F for a fourth year.
I promise that I will not complain about Rowell again.
it is hard to make a case for doing anything but sending him back to F for a fourth year.
No, its easy to make another case, cut bait and forget it ever happened. He wont ever be good, he cant hit/field/handle A+ ball. Cut bait, that pick is a sunk cost
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how everyone wants to give up on a player who just finished his
age 21 season. Yea, Rowell may seem like he has been around forever, but the kid just turned 22 last month. I’m not ready to give up on him yet.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Oct 8, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
the dude is playing shitty against players younger than him
i’m all for factoring in age but he’s a bust.
I've been playing baseball since I was six years old, so that's 40 years I've been on a baseball field and around a baseball field, and so our opinions are formulated through facts, not fiction, not their little chat room jargon.
this
I’m 23 (i think), but i’m just not good at baseball. He’s 21, and hes not very good at baseball either (compared to MLB standards), hes not going to magically get better.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Oct 8, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Kba, how was the hand sanitzer?
"When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." - Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 8, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
Where'd you hear about that?
i wasnt in my seat at the time so I actually missed it. More enjoyable was someone collecting all the free t-shirts from our section and put on as many as possible. I think he got up to 85.
It was on Sportscenter.
"When you use those words, `mystique’ and `aura,’ those are dancers in a night club. Those are not things we concern ourselves on the ball field." - Curt Schilling on if the Yankees mystique and aura would affect the Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Oct 8, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? Thats surprising
The whole thing felt a little too minor-league to me, but it seemed like people enjoyed it. I liked booing the hell out of david beckham way more.
I figured it was time to get a profile image...
so I went with 1988 Topps #544… the baseball card I have more of than any other baseball card… that’s right… The Man, The Legend… Jim Traber!
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Columbia's own....
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Whoo! Off to see Primus at the Tower Theater.
If there were a Mt. Rushmore for bass players, Les Claypool’s face would be up on that mountain.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
Ooooooh, I'm jealous
I see The Sword next week
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I'll be there as well!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Oct 9, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
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