Monday Bird Droppings
by duck on Nov 1, 2010 6:57 AM EDT
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Question of the day: Today's question of the day focuses on Luke Scott. Namely, what to do with him. His name is usually prominent in trade discussions as he is a good, not great player, who is a little on the old side to be considered as a potential piece of the next great Orioles team. In 2010, however, he was easily the best offensive player on the team. Given the 2010 putridity and current uncertainty of the O's offense, does it still make sense to trade him to fill other needs? If so, what do you think he's worth and what would you like to see in return? -Stacey
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I'm very drunk and I intend on getting still drunker before this Open Thread's over.
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I'm rooting for the Giants
They seem like a team that’s more fun to root for than the Rangers.
Where are my shoelaces?
I was kind of rooting for the Giants...
but that picture of Brian Wilson irritates me for some reason…
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Nov 1, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
The Rangers are imploding and the Giants are having fun. It’s no fun to watch a losing team as we well know.
Where are my shoelaces?
Its always more fun to win.
And anyways…I’m thinking it is a safe bet that one of the two teams would lose the series.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Madison Avenue?
That doesn’t even make sense! The headlines by MLB.com this postseason are completely ridiculous.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
The stories are even worse
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
And, um, MADISON Bumgarner started the game for them?
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Yes, I'm aware.
That doesn’t mean it makes sense.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Nov 1, 2010 8:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m very drunk and I intend on getting still drunker before this Open Thread’s over.
Yes, please! These threads have been missing the drunk crew lately!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Tonight's no good, and toward the end of the week i have to start studying for the MPRE
but tomorrow night could be a potential multiple bottle of wine kinda night.
OK, what movie is it from?
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
No question of the day?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
That's Stacey's gig
Feel lucky you got a quote as early as I post these things.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
It's actually Andrew's gig
But he texted me this morning saying he wasn’t near a computer. I’ll try to think of something.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Question of the Day
Ok it’s not great, but I thought it up on the fly. I posted it, but here it is as well:
Today’s question of the day focuses on Luke Scott. Namely, what to do with him. His name is usually prominent in trade discussions as he is a good, not great player, who is a little on the old side to be considered as a potential piece of the next great Orioles team. In 2010, however, he was easily the best offensive player on the team. Given the 2010 putridity and current uncertainty of the O’s offense, does it still make sense to trade him to fill other needs? If so, what do you think he’s worth and what would you like to see in return?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
ugh...we talk about baseball here?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 1, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Hrm.
I feel obligated to respond, since I asked about the QotD, but I suck at guessing trade values. It looks like Luke is under team control for ‘11 and ’12, so the fact that a team could hang onto him for a bit gives him more value… but he’ll also probably get a significant raise in arbitration this year. (Heath at Dempsey’s Army estimated $7.5 mil, up from $4.05 mil. That sounds about right to me, considering the year he had.)
So, he’s not exactly cheap, but he’s still a bargain considering the numbers he puts up. We’ve talked about trading him to the Rays before (I can haz Brignac?), but that seems unlikely now with his coming salary increase. I really have no idea which teams would be interested, let alone which would have something we could really use prospect-wise. And maybe Buck will be smart and get Luke to work out at 1B all offseason, hopefully playing him there often during the season to give Pie and Reimold at-bats and help Luke’s future trade value. (/beatingdeadhorse)
Regardless of all that, though, I don’t think we trade him. If you get a great offer, sure, you probably do it… but as you point out, with as bad as the offense was this year, I don’t think you can afford to weaken it. However, I’m less worried about next year’s offense than most. Looking at the full-season numbers makes things look (even) worse than they were — remember, we gave lots of PAs to Atkins, Lugo, Tejada, and Patterson, as well as a smattering to Fox and even Montanez. You’re gonna give PAs to scrubs and fill-ins on any team during any season, but when you have 22% of a team’s PAs going to those types, it really brings the overall numbers down.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
about scrubs getting PAs
Yeah that hurts the team, but as it is there are three empty spots on the infield that we have no idea what will be there. The issue with trading Luke (and I suck at trade values also) is that unless you can get something back for one of those positions that will immediately help, there doesn’t seem much value in it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Oh, I totally agree.
All I meant is that we don’t need to be panicking about our returning players (though some certainly merit concern), because many of the ones who sucked are gone.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Food for thought
In addition to Aubrey and Chris Ray, Eli Whiteside will be getting his long-awaited World Series ring, assuming the Giants don’t defecate all over their TempurPedic.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
Eli Whiteside will get a world series ring
and Brian Roberts has never played on a team with a record above .500
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Further proof that there is no justice in the world.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 1, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Baseball America's
top ten O’s prospects is up, here.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
two mega prospects and then shit
Also, if you like Vampire Weekend, you easily substitute the word horcheta with Machado and the song works just as well.
Your mother.
I like this about the 2014 lineup
No. 1 Starter Brian Matusz
No. 2 Starter Zach Britton
No. 3 Starter Jake Arrieta
No. 4 Starter Chris Tillman
No. 5 Starter Jeremy Guthrie
Old man Guts!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Jamie Moyer
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I love that Jamie Moyer is pitching in the dominican league this winter
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
If he faces Pie, that'll just be weird.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Looks like Moyer has made one 1-inning appearance so far
He’s playing for the Leones del Escogido. Also on his team: Randor Bierd.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
If those guys get good enough to make Guts a #5 I will be so fucking happy.
Also, old man Luke Scott will still be DHing.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
2014
Matusz 16-9
Britton 12-10
Arrieta 17-12
Tillman 8-6 (on the DL for part of the year)
Guthrie 12-16 (no run support)
World Series MVP – Jeremy Guthrie
Guts will have to be the MVP out of the bullpen.
He won’t get any starts in our sweep.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that's bad
3rd round pick who’s a reliever with no pro action made it over a recent top 5 pick.
Your mother.
I don't know much
18 y/o kid signed from Curacao. He help his own in the Appy league this year. I’m pretty excited at the prospect that the Orioles signed internationally. Kind of strange, really.
Here is his page over at minor league baseball.
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Nov 1, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Callis Tweet last week:
I was wrong when I wrote (http://ht.ly/30hH7) O’s system might be better than it appears. Just looked at our O’s Top 10 & it’s not pretty.
So basically there is Britton and Machado, and a lot of guys who could either be good or never make it of Frederick.
Librarians are hiding something
by dfa on Nov 1, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok so did anyone watch Walking Dead?
And can you report on its level of scariness before I watch it?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I heard from another adult male that it was scary.
I am going to watch it later, so I can clarify then.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
All I know is I was watching Mad Men On Demand last night
And the preview they showed for it was pretty freaking scary. I think I’m going to watch it regardless, I just need to know if I can do it alone at night or if I need to invite someone over to protect me as I watch with all the lights on. I’m kind of a wimp.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'm waiting on a response from Anna as to whether I should watch it before she gets home
or to wait for her. If she gives me the ok, I will be watching it shortly.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was not scary in the least
and I was disappointed in a couple spots, but overall it was good. It might even bring on a couple tears if you are inclined to have those moments.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
it's a bit gory in places.
mrs. zk had to turn away twice.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Booooooo!!!
http://www.nesn.com/2010/11/should-the-red-sox-take-a-flier-on-orioles-reliever-koji-uehara.html
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
From Buster Olney's column today (ESPN Insiders only):
Carl Crawford is going to get extraordinary offers as a free agent this offseason, but if everything is equal (if the Red Sox or the Yankees make the same level of offer as the Angels) do not underestimate the impact of the competitive callus Crawford has built up against Boston and New York in his career. For years, he has been battling the Red Sox and Yankees, and he will need to be persuaded to join them, according to a friend.
…So you’re saying we have a chance?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I know, I know...
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
subject
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Given the 2010 putridity and current uncertainty of the O’s offense, does it still make sense to trade him to fill other needs? If so, what do you think he’s worth and what would you like to see in return?
Depends on the return. If you get one A prospect and another B/B- prospect for him, then do it. If not, might as well keep him.
Your mother.
I'm lazy and didn't read any of the links, who is that about?
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that I know what the hell is going on,
I have to agree with you. I think Luke has to stay unless AM gets blown away by an offer (which very well could happen considering the lack of talent in this FA class) in which case I say we take it. This team probably won’t contend this year and as much as I like Luke and would love to see him on a winning Orioles team if we can use him to make this team significantly better in the future then we have to.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you guys seen that the Vikings waived Randy Moss?
It’s being reported by the NFL Network and the Star Tribune that Moss has been waived after trashing his team’s strategy yesterday. More to come, obviously.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Holy shit.
Somebody get Dan Snyder on the phone ASAP!
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know how the NFL waiver wire works?
First dibs go to teams currently with the worst record or is it based on last season?
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure it's the priority goes to teams with the worst current record
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
wow that sentence is jacked up
you know what I mean, though.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
That is what I figured.
The stache is back!
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I could be wrong
and I’m too lazy for the google right now.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Hes on waivers for 24 hours, then becomes a free agent.
Team with lowest record gets first dibs.
"I know the save rule, believe me. But it doesn't carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better." - Buck Showalter
by HIO'sFan on Nov 1, 2010 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
What is this - a woman talking about football?
Don’t you have a post-Thanksgiving sale to gameplan for?
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 1, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Because these are just too cool:
(Click to make it bigger.)
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Boxing posters for other sports are very awesome.
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 1, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Davey Lopes
is reportedly not re-signing with the Phils as their first base coach. Wonder if Buck would be interested… it’d be nice to get a guy in here who can help our speedier guys learn to steal bases and run better.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
We really need Lopes
Pre or post Buck, the team’s base running is horrendous and Lopes has an excellent reputation in this area.
Your mother.
Yep.
I just hope they grab him, and quickly.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
All of the O's prospects are sucking in the AFL
Ryan “Don’t Call me Bryan!” Adams is sporting a .721 OPS in 38 ABs and then it is gets ugly. I couldn’t find any numbers for Zack Attack but Oliver Drake has a 5.79 ERA in three starts. Not that AFL numbers should be taken seriously, but still.
Your mother.
It's not *all* bad.
Caleb Joseph has an .823 OPS, Greg Miclat has a .366 OBP, and Kam Mickolio has pitched 5.2 innings with 7 K, 2 BB, and 1 HR. Sample sizes are tiny and all that, of course.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
FYI
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/org.jsp?id=bal
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Yeah, who they send seems kinda random.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
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