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Bill James Projects the 2011 Orioles Hitters

Ok so he projects all of the players on all of the teams, but who cares about those other 29 teams? In case you forgot, Bill James hilariously projected Matt Wieters to be the greatest hitter in history before his major league debut, and last year projected such gems as Nolan Reimold hitting 29 home runs and Josh Bell batting .288/.370/.455. He does tend to be optimistic (especially for young players), but I always enjoy looking at what he predicts anyway. So let's jump in. I've included James' 2010 predictions for each player for fun.

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Matt Wieters - Matt just hasn't been able to live up to the otherworldly expectations Bill James has given him so far (he envisioned a rookie season for Wieters in which he hit .305/.402/.519). It's kind of sad seeing his good but not insanely good projection for 2011.


G AB 2B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG
2010 Projection 148 547 29 20 61 .311/.381/.484
2010 Stats 130 446 22 11 47 .249/.319/.377
2011 Projection 130 482 25 16 54 .288/.361/.448


Luke Scott
-
Not a bad projection on Luke last season, and his 2011 numbers look pretty realistic.


G AB 2B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG
2010 Projection 142 463
29
24 56
.259/.342/.486
2010 Stats 131 447
29
27
59
.284/.368/.535
2011 Projection 142 493
31
27
62
.266/.351/.501


Brian Roberts
-
Poor Brian and his 59 games in 2010. Here's to a healthier 2011.


G AB 2B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG
2010 Projection 159 630 47 12 78 .281/.361/.422
2010 Stats 59 230 14 4 26 .278/.354/.391
2011 Projection 130 513 37 9 62 .279/.359/.411


Nick Markakis
-
Other than his power drop, James had Nick just about right on the money last year. He projects a modest HR increase and I hope he's right.


G AB 2B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG
2010 Projection 161
630
47
21
72
.300/.374/.481
2010 Stats 160
629
45
12
73 .297/.370/.436
2011 Projection 161
629
47
17
74
.300/.377/.463


Adam Jones
-
Adam's 2011 projection is nearly identical to his 2010 projection, and neither are much out of line with Adam's 2010 numbers other than the lower walk total. Twenty-three walks. That's just disgusting.


G AB 2B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG
2010 Projection 154
571
29
22
40
.284/.336/.468
2010 Stats 149
581
25
19
23
.284/.325/.442
2011 Projection 146
560
27
21
32
.288/.335/.466


Felix Pie
-
I just adore Felix Pie as a human. But I have no idea what to think of him as a baseball player.


G AB 2B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG
2010 Projection 143
345
18
11
27
.272/.325/.443
2010 Stats 82
288
15
5
13
.274/.305/.413
2011 Projection 94
249
13
6
17
.281/.330/.430


Nolan Reimold -
As I mentioned above, James saw big things for Reimold in 2010 that didn't exactly pan out. He hasn't written him off yet, though, giving him a very positive 2011 projection. If Nolan can come back with that line in 2011 I'll be quite pleased.


G AB 2B HR BB BA/OBP/SLG
2010 Projection 152
538
34
29
68
.292/.352/.524
2010 Stats 39
116
5
3
12
.207/.282/.328
2011 Projection 144
526
28
22
66
.270/.352/.452


That's pretty much it for hitters, seeing as how the Orioles don't have a first baseman, shortstop, or third baseman lined up for 2011. They should get on that.

All stats taken from FanGraphs

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I keep forgetting about Reimold

and how good he was. I don’t know at all what to think about him though.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 10, 2010 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

He also projects Josh Bell to hit 21 HRs next year...

and walk 39 times?

Wow, we are going to be awesome!

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Nov 10, 2010 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

I don't see Carl Crawford on this list. What gives!?!

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 10, 2010 4:27 PM EST reply actions  

.340/.410/.590

We aren’t going to use a DH when Lee is on the mound and he is going to play SS when he isn’t pitching.

If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.

by Knubles and Bits on Nov 10, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, when I think about Wieters

it is hard not to get discouraged. He can’t be Yadier Molina at the plate. HE CAN’T. If this is going to work, if “the plan” is actually gonna go anywhere, Wieters can’t just be a decent starter posting a 2.5 WAR. He has to be GOOD. Hopefully better than that, but…it just feels like he’s too important to play like this, if we’re gonna get anywhere.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Nov 10, 2010 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

STOP

you’re upsetting the children! the horror that Wieters isn’t actually that good is too much for me to handle right now.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 10, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

on that note

I think we overblew it a little bit. he’s 23 years old, there’s more than plenty of time for him to develop. last year was his first pro-season, let’s see where he goes.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 10, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say I was giving up, mind you.

Just that it really needs to happen with hm. He’s got to be better. This year was discouraging, and I think there is a fear of admitting that.

"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008

Adam Jones is the tits.

by KenDixonFanClub on Nov 10, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

you know what worries me?

thinking that even in my lifetime, they won’t win the WS. or at least until i go to college…

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 10, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It is the journey, not the destination, grasshopper.

But it’d sure be nice if the journey had a ticker-tape parade somewhere along the way.

America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 10, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd sure like to know

none of my favorite teams have won a championship in my lifetime.
Titans, O’s, Tennessee Vols, and Mizzou Tigers supporter for life and I’ve got nothing to show for it (except for a football title when I was 3…)

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 10, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I was born approximately a month after the Redskins won their last Super Bowl.

They haven’t won it since, the Caps have never won the Stanley Cup, and you obviously know about the Orioles. I’m in my first year of college now and sports have just been miserable for me. But I keep putting myself through this because I still have that stupid thing called hope.

On the other hand, considering that I was born just after the Redskins won their last Super bowl, I must have cursed all my times.

by ahoque24 on Nov 11, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

expectations

I’m really not sure why Oriole fans should be discouraged. Utlimately he hasn’t lived up to best baseball player on earth, but the problem from the outset has been the expectations. I think it was Jay Bruce who was the #1 prospect B.W. (before Wieters, of course), and his career has been uneven as well. These are young players. 4 years ago how thrilled would Oriole fans have been to see a 23 year old catcher show his patience and flash his power potential?

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Nov 10, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Is James drinking the Kool Aid?

Those seem like awfully rosy projections for the young Orioles.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Nov 10, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

nah, he always does that

he has a particularly golden view of young guys with decent minor league track records – who are of course impossible to predict.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 10, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he's very good at predicting anything really

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 12, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions  

that's unfair

he was the talking about the importance of OBP in predicting wins 25 years ago.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 13, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

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