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Friday Bird Droppings

My apologies for the lateness of the open thread today. I was out late watching the Ravens lose and just woke up. Funny story, the lovely 2632 and I were enjoying a pre-game meal at Abbey Bistro Burger and we saw on the ESPN crawl a headline that said, "Man denied restraining order request for Tim Tebow, President Obama, and Jesus." We decided we also wouldn't mind a restraining order against Tim Tebow, and also Ben Roethlisberger. 

Voting for the Mobbies ends today at 5 p.m., so today is the last day you'll have to deal with me mentioning it. Thanks to everyone who voted and don't forget to vote again today! 

Question of the Day: I've heard our fearlessly sweatered leader mention a few times that he'd like to add a veteran starter to continue the mentoring work left unfinished by Mr. Kevin Millwod. Now I personally disagree with that sentiment, and you might, too. And I know I'm just asking for a barrage of "Cliff Lee" here, but if you absolutely had to bring in a new veteran starter for the 2011 Orioles, who would it be (besides the obvious)? -Andrew

Orioles Insider: What we heard about Pie's ejection
Here is the story on Felix Pie as mentioned yesterday in the Open Thread. It doesn't sound like Felix did much wrong. I knew he wasn't capable of attacking anyone.

Woman charged in Grady Sizemore nude photo hack - V3.co.uk 
Here's the lesson, kids. When your hot hot hottie baseball playing boyfriend sends you some nudie pics, don't make your password, "password." Although I certainly appreciate the hard work of the hacker in this case. 

Juan Samuel back in Phillies' fold, to coach third base | Philadelphia Daily News
It's official.

Orioles Insider: Rest easy, MacPhail is talking to agents
Andy's talking! He's wheeling and dealing! He's playing his cards close to the vest! 

School of Roch: Could two coaching vacancies become three?
And in the Orioles coaching staff soap opera, Rick Adair might leave his post in the bullpen to become pitching coach in Pittsburgh or New York. Can't blame him there.

It's O-O-O-Open Thread, c-c-c-coming to k-k-k-kill me! How are you going to c-c-c-catch me, O-O-O-Open thread?

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Was thinking the same thing last night.

Can’t believe they could find a job for Trembley.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

*couldn't*

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Though the Braves did.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 12, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Where is Mazilli these days?

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

in the soup line

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn. Cheech & Chong were right

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it really already time for a "chill out, Andy's working on it" article?

Who out there is genuinely upset the Orioles haven’t already signed any free agents?

by kba26 on Nov 12, 2010 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

I don't know, man

I’m pretty pissed that Carl Crawford hasn’t been signed yet.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Just read the comments on that article

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Nov 12, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I liked this comment
Typical MacPhail convo w/agent

MacPhail: “The Orioles are very interested in ______________.”

Agent: “Nice sweater vest. Can you get me one?”

Posted by: mdbdotcom | November 12, 2010 7:53 AM

cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz

by Steve. on Nov 12, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha awesome

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 12, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Your question is up, guys-who-already-here-at-the-crack-of-dawn

it is “How many times can you say Cliff Lee before I get irritated?”

I’m betting it is a lot.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

I could tolerate a Freddy Garcia signing.

I also wouldn’t be upset if the O’s kicked the tires on Brad Penny or Brandon Webb. I’ve read mentions of Jon Garland and Aaron Harang, but I don’t really foresee either of them being worth the O’s trouble.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Garcia I do not want

actually, I’m looking at all of these guys and I’m getting a little blegh in my throat. I think Webb is in a different category, since he’s not going to be pitching until mid-season. But, really, Freddy Garcia? Jon Garland? Aaron Harang? They’re so meh I can’t even bring myself to say meh to them.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

harang...

i just like his name and since we can’t have don wakamatsu…

seriously, though, for cheap i could deal.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

To help with the question of the day

Here is, from Baseball-Reference, the list of starting pitchers who are currently free agents along with their 2010 stats. Pitchers who didn’t pitch at all in 2010, like Brandon Webb, aren’t on here.

Rk Player IP Year Age GS W L H R ER BB SO ERA ERA+ HR 2B BA OBP SLG
1 Carl Pavano 221.0 2010 34 32 17 11 227 95 92 37 117 3.75 111 24 49 .266 .300 .417
2 Cliff Lee 212.1 2010 31 28 12 9 195 84 75 18 185 3.18 130 16 46 .240 .255 .363
3 Jake Westbrook 202.2 2010 32 33 10 11 203 99 95 68 128 4.22 92 20 38 .262 .326 .401
4 Rodrigo Lopez 200.0 2010 34 33 7 16 227 126 111 56 116 5.00 85 37 49 .286 .333 .500
5 Jon Garland 200.0 2010 30 33 14 12 176 86 77 87 136 3.46 106 20 28 .240 .323 .371
6 Hiroki Kuroda 196.1 2010 35 31 11 13 180 87 74 48 159 3.39 113 15 29 .243 .291 .351
7 Kevin Millwood 190.2 2010 35 31 4 16 223 116 108 65 132 5.10 83 30 31 .292 .352 .461
8 David Bush 174.1 2010 30 31 8 13 198 108 88 65 107 4.54 87 28 49 .286 .346 .481
9 Jeremy Bonderman 171.0 2010 27 29 8 10 187 113 105 60 112 5.53 76 25 25 .277 .342 .448
10 Javier Vazquez 157.1 2010 34 26 10 10 155 96 93 65 121 5.32 80 32 35 .257 .333 .485
11 Freddy Garcia 157.0 2010 35 28 12 6 171 85 81 45 89 4.64 94 23 39 .279 .329 .475
12 Kevin Correia 145.0 2010 29 26 10 10 152 89 87 64 115 5.40 68 20 24 .271 .348 .435
13 Bruce Chen 140.1 2010 33 23 12 7 136 68 65 57 98 4.17 101 17 32 .254 .326 .409
14 Andy Pettitte 129.0 2010 38 21 11 3 123 52 47 41 101 3.28 130 13 23 .257 .316 .386
15 Jorge de la Rosa 121.2 2010 29 20 8 7 105 62 57 55 113 4.22 110 15 34 .235 .324 .413
16 Ben Sheets 119.1 2010 31 20 4 9 123 65 60 43 84 4.53 92 18 31 .267 .327 .486
17 Aaron Harang 111.2 2010 32 20 6 7 139 71 66 38 82 5.32 75 16 27 .305 .362 .479
18 Jamie Moyer 111.2 2010 47 19 9 9 103 64 60 20 63 4.84 84 20 21 .240 .282 .433
19 Jeff Francis 104.1 2010 29 19 4 6 119 61 58 23 67 5.00 93 11 25 .293 .331 .446
20 Vicente Padilla 95.0 2010 32 16 6 5 79 46 43 24 84 4.07 94 14 12 .226 .286 .386
21 Brad Penny 55.2 2010 32 9 3 4 63 25 20 9 35 3.23 122 4 14 .293 .326 .414
22 Ian Snell 46.1 2010 28 8 0 5 60 36 33 25 26 6.41 62 10 10 .308 .384 .564
23 Doug Davis 38.1 2010 34 8 1 4 55 36 32 21 34 7.51 53 6 9 .333 .418 .497
24 Justin Duchscherer 28.0 2010 32 5 2 1 26 11 9 12 18 2.89 145 3 2 .255 .336 .363
25 Anthony Lerew 26.1 2010 27 6 1 4 34 25 25 9 18 8.54 50 9 5 .321 .375 .623
26 Chris Young 20.0 2010 31 4 2 0 10 2 2 11 15 0.90 416 1 1 .143 .259 .200
27 Kris Benson 14.0 2010 35 3 1 1 18 9 8 6 8 5.14 84 2 2 .305 .379 .475

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

Rodrigo Lopez: not even getting in done out west

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I cannot believe some team let Rodrigo Lopez pitch 200 innings

even if it is the Diamondbacks. 200 innings by a guy who allowed a .500 SLG

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Benson, and Lopez, and Chen! Oh, my!

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, here is a sortable version of the list

which I really prefer.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/9nNZr

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

can we sort them by who sucks the least?

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

soneone on mlbtr...

suggested the o’s might make a ply for hiroki kuroda. i’m not sure if that’s just b/c of koji, but i’d be cool w/ that, too.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Wish I'd seen this before I posted

I doubt having one Japanese teammate would help. He will go wherever the money’s the best. Maybe it’s us.

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

i suspect...

that’s right, though, i imagine that to some extent perception is important w/ respect to landing guys from npb who are maybe more predisposed to ny, la or seattle.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

The real problem is that

the only guys who I’d entertain on here – Kuroda and de la Rosa – are almost certain to get multiyear deals. Do we want a veteran on a multiyear deal?

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I def wouldn't want Kuroda on a multiyear deal

He’s already 35. De la Rosa will be 30 next year, which is relatively young for a Mentor, but I don’t know that I’d want to give him more than one year anyway.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Multiyear can mean 2

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

thanks for the definition

Which is why I said “I don’t know that I’d want to give him more than one year anyway.”

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm here to help

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

unless you're were talking about Kuroda

in which case I don’t want to sign a 36 year old to a two year deal either.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

depends

are they trading a young gun for a bat? assuming no – then no. assuming yes – then you would probably have to look into it. Really I think I am fine without a “mentor”, “innings eater”, “etc.” next season. It just screams crap all over again to me.

by Philly O's on Nov 12, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Look at Chris Young sporting the 416 ERA+! haha

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Wide View thingy is my friend

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Hiroki Kuroda looks like the sleeper of the bunch

Yeah, it was NL West, but he may be a flyer worth taking.

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

That Millwood guy...

looks like a prime candidate for a bounce-back kind of year.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Nov 12, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, at worst we...

can sign him to a deal and then trade him before the deadline.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Nov 12, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I would take Garland on a 3 year deal.

And if Kuroda would come here for 1-2 years then I would like that to.

If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.

by Knubles and Bits on Nov 12, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Garland for three years?

No thanks.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.

by Knubles and Bits on Nov 12, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Because those numbers from last year

were put up in the NL West. In possibly the most pitcher friendly park in the majors. With a team with great defense behind him. No thanks.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

He spent 8 years with the White Sox.

He has shown he can pitch in the AL. Face it, we aren’t going to sign Cliff Lee. We have to settle for the second tier guys. We can’t not sign pitchers just because they won’t dominate the AL east. There are only a handful of players that can do that. We’d be left with nothing. I think everyone is living in some fantasy land where all of our young starters are going to be Roy Halladay’s and such. I don’t have that much faith in them and think this team would benefit from having two dependable starters.

If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.

by Knubles and Bits on Nov 12, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he's a very good pitcher

I think we already have the rich man’s Jon Garland in Guthrie.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

haha...

i like that. another thing: if bergy can keep his four seamer viable, don’t his numbers sort of look like guthrie, jr.?

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I could totally do Kuroda for two years

but I think he’ll get more than that. And two years is as far as I’m going with any starting pitcher. Heck, I don’t even want to do ONE year really.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Is that quote from Torgo?

Of ‘Manos: Hands of Fate’?

Th-th-the m-mas-as-ter w-ou-ul-uldn’t app-app-approve

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Nov 12, 2010 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

ask birdman

He’s been my open thread quote guru.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it! I love it!

it’s from one of the funnier movies I’ve seen. And probably Jamie Lee Curtis’ only good movie.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

JLC wasn't in "Manos: Hands of Fate"

Unless she filmed it when she was 12. It was released in ’66, she was born in ’58.

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

it's not from "Manos:Hands of Fate"

that’s a chip up the nose, I’m afraid!

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

just looking at JLC's imdb page

there are like 3 movies that I’d even consider watching of hers. And yet I’d still consider her a pretty good actress. Something is off in my brain.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Freaky Friday rocks

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

she's still no Sigourney Weaver

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

But Freaky Friday DOES rock

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

well, then there are 4 JLC movies I would watch

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope True Lies is one of them.

America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 12, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

True Lies

Halloween, A Fish Called Wanda, and Freaky Friday

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

dude...

trading places? i mean, she’s the least funny part and all, but STILL!

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

What about My Girl?

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

look, you guys can name each of her movies one by one

but there are still only four of them I want to watch. And one of those I’ve never seen, so it’s possible I only want to see three of her movies.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Well excuse me for trying to broaden your horizons

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

City folk are notoriously provincial, you know.

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

excused and forgiven

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Buckaroo Banzai....

….although her part was cut out of it.

May I pass along my congratulations for your great interdimensional breakthrough. I am sure, in the miserable annals of the Earth, you will be duly enshrined.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Nov 12, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

What a great movie.

“One more word out of you, Big Booty…!”

“Big Booté! Té! Té!!!”

blam

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 12, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

hahaha awesome

i haven’t seen that movie in two decades. probably time for a revisit. so many talented people at early stages of their careers: lithgow, goldblum, lloyd, vincent schiavelli…

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Nov 12, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm amazed she hasn't really done anything for the past decade

I guess those yogurt commercials are keeping her alive in my consciousness.

And: Kevin Kline.

by PhilR8 on Nov 12, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Asshole!

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

don't, uhhh...

EVER call me stupid!

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

By 12, you mean 8?

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 12, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

And that's why I don't teach math

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha,

you said it, not me. :)

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 12, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

REVENGE FOR OPEN THREAD! REVENGE FOR OPEN THREAD!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Nov 12, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Vlad won the Silver Slugger?

Why not Ortiz???

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 12, 2010 9:51 AM EST reply actions  

April and May?

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but when you sum it all up, Ortiz was considerably better

Shouldn’t July and August count against Vlad?

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 12, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

First impressions and all...

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

And Ortiz hit 10 HR's in May

April he was brutal though

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 12, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I would have liked to see Jim Thome get it

Except he only played in about 100 games I think. But he was the only DH better than Luke. His OBP was over 400 and his SLG was over 600.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

plus he's awesome

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

He played 108 games

http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/wJSfY

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

And he was actually worth more fWAR than Luke or Ortiz,

despite playing in significantly fewer games.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 12, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Should we be concerned about the dissaray of our coaching staff?

We were supposed to have a complete coaching staff in place shortly after the season ended. Does it matter that much?

by BaltoBen on Nov 12, 2010 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

Phones are broken at OPaCY

Only reason I can think of.

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Or they're taking the time to get the right people

People they want and who want to be here. Why do you need a third base coach in November? So he can spend all winter working on his stop sign?

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 12, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

And I'm not sure you need a first base coach in April

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 12, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Off season conditioning drills

Don’t want ’em to have their arm pop out of socket while furiously waving Luke in from 2nd.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Or filming commercials....

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 12, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

d'oh!

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

For more Jeter gold glove fun

this is amusing:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/34432/

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

I would have been all for signing Pavano last year

but this year he might cost a bit more. He wouldn’t bother me. I still don’t understand the whole “we need to sign a vet pitcher” thing though. We have good options 1-5 already and a pretty veteran pitcher in Guthrie. What am I missing?

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 12, 2010 12:37 PM EST reply actions  

the thinking is that we need the depth to have at least 7 viable starters

because of injuries or ineffectiveness. But of course, if you sign a vet like Millwood and HE is ineffective, he’ll just sit around and eat up a roster spot all year, lest you look like some ungrateful monster for his mentoring and good personality.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I get that

but I also think Britton isnt far off. Also, i’m most afraid that we’d sign a vet and push Tillman or Arrieta back down to AAA because of it. If we want some depth, fine, but i’d like to see these guys actually be playing at the MLB level at this point. Sign a rehab guy like Bedard or Ducshererererer if we need depth for down the road.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 12, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

that isn't really depth

that’s more like praying for a miracle

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I love trial weeks

so much free food in the office

by kba26 on Nov 12, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

QotD:

We should sign Jamie Moyer, the most mentorial mentor of them all.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 12, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

I don't care if he IS 73 yrs old -- if we signed SID twice, for cripe's sake, we could at least do the same for JM

Oh, did I mention I dated Sigourney Weaver in college?

OK, maybe “dated” is too strong a word. I meant “knew who she was”— but then forgot about her til I was watching “Alien” in a movie theatre in 1980 or something and had this “Hey, wait a minute…” moment just about the time the creature jumped out of John Hurt’s chest.

Funny how some things can jog your memory, isn’t it?

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.

by Titov on Nov 12, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

K-Law on Tsuyoshi Nishioka
Ray A. (San Francisco, CA)

Do you have an opinion on Japanese Prospect Tsuyoshi Nishioka? How much will he cost a team, and have you heard any interest from the San Francisco Giants? Maybe to push Sandoval a little bit!
Klaw (1:26 PM)

I’ve only seen what you’ve seen (e.g., WBC from ‘06). Don’t like that style of swing unless a player is a plus or better runner, but he’s not. Sounds like he probably moves to 2b over here. Some scouts think he’ll continue to hit for average, some don’t. I’m more in the latter camp, and without power or plus speed he’ll have to maintain that high walk rate to be an everyday guy.

Not sounding good.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

it was so strange and wonderful

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I love any mention of Annie's Boobs

the monkey, of course. The monkey’s name is Annie’s Boobs.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

you guys are awesome

Community AND The Walking Dead? Just awesome. I’m watching all of season 1 right now, shit’s too funny.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 4:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

It gets way better

the beginning of season 1 wasnt even that good compared to the rest.

by kba26 on Nov 12, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Last night's "the League" was atually pretty damn good

I think they regained my waining interest

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 12, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

BREAKING NEWS

THIS JUST IN – I am bored and work sucks.

More to follow.

by Philly O's on Nov 12, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

yep

still bored -

so what’s the consensus on the O’s cutting ties with the 2 minor league teams. I think it is fine – any argument otherwise?

by Philly O's on Nov 12, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

two?

i thought they only cut ties with Bluefield.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

they dropped one of their two dominican summer league teams

no complaints from andrew

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You're on fire these days!

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 12, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

The trouble

having thought about it….why on earth would any respectable veteran pitcher come to the toughest place to pitch in all of baseball for one year? They’re more likely to wreck their reputation than improve it, so they’d want multiple years at least – and probably enough money to dull the pain. And when is the last time a decent free agent starting pitcher came to Baltimore from elsewhere?

Uhh…not counting Sir Sidney Ponson? Would you buy Pat Hentgen in 2001? He wasn’t all that great, but before him it’s Jimmy effing Key.

Nope, if we’re looking for someone to eat 150-200 innings, we’re gonna need to trade for him. There ain’t nobody coming to pitch in Baltimore – especially on a short contract – unless he doesn’t have any say in the matter.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, yeah, I love Jimmy Key. He was awesome.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes marriage.

It was a huge deal.

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 12, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

That's right...

I remember distinctly thinking about sending him a letter extoling the virtues of strange tang.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

There ain’t nobody coming to pitch in Baltimore – especially on a short contract – unless he doesn’t have any say in the matter.

Ah, so you are warming on Javy Vazquez, i see?

I think Francis could be had, frankly. I think the issue is to figure out what the Orioles are looking for in this situation:
a) a guy to simply eat 200 innings, effectiveness be damned
b) a mentor
c) a guy who has some upside, though this might come at the risk of not being able to throw 150 innings (Harden, Duchscherer, Bedard, and now Francis)
d) a bulldog

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Nov 12, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I never understood what a "bulldog" was

it’s something people seem to say about everyone. I’ve heard Brad Bergesen called a “bulldog” and I’ve seen him look like he’s on the brink of tears out there. What does it mean?

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a bulldog is just a gutsy mentor. It also could a pitcher who plays the game the right way.

Librarians are hiding something

by dfa on Nov 12, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

One could say they are 'grity' or have 'determination'.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

by "plays the game the right way", you mean throws to the catcher and not the shortstop, yes?

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

What else do pitchers do?

Cover first. Backup everywhere. Get knocked down. Hit Carl Crawford in the balls.

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

a bulldog is definitely someone who hits Crawford in the balls

okay, I think I have it. A bulldog is just a pitcher you like who does cool stuff. Check.

I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.

by Andrew_G on Nov 12, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

the original "bulldog" was Orel Hersheiser

I’ve always had the image of someone who stubbornly won’t give in.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Nov 12, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

is a pitcher...

yet is NOT a bellyitcher.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well said.

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

a guy who plays the game the right way...

also probably doesn’t engage in pepper games or rebroadcast games w/o the express written (not implied oral) consent of major league baseball.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Nov 12, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions  

on that free agent thing:

Cliff Lee won’t be coming here? Don’t be naive!

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 4:03 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I just want to thank the person that turned me onto the 27bslash6 website yesterday

It is priceless.

Also, thanks to the ONE person yesterday in the open thread that actually thanked veterans.

by GeoffreyA on Nov 12, 2010 4:58 PM EST reply actions  

Ah c'mon

Do you think no one else thought about or thanked veterans yesterday?

by PhilR8 on Nov 12, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.Yes I do

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you another one of these 15 year olds?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 12, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That depends. Is that a good thing?

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

come on dude

just because I didn’t post a thanks to the vets on a blog doesn’t mean I didn’t do it, you know, in the real world. I keep my grandpa’s dog tags on me at all times, I have friends in the marine corp who I called, it’s not like I need to do it here.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude i understand.

I did not say anything on here but i went out and payed my respect to our veterans. I really don’t care how you show respect to the veterans as long as you do. The people i do have a problem with are the people who go to school and refuse to not only say the pledge but to show respect to the people fighting for the world to experience what we have. Now i don’t want to start some political argument but i feel that if you don’t want to say the pledge then at least show your respect to our veterans. Many of my relatives have been in the Marine Corp and maybe i will too but it just pisses me off when people sit there and make fun off the speech, refuse to say it, and are cruel to the people who have friends and family who are currently in the Middle East or in another active military location.

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't say the Pledge of Allegiance?

It’s called Freedom of Speech, and also the freedom to stay silent. Have you heard of the case in which the teacher forced an atheist student to say the pledge despite the fact that “Under God” directly contradicted her world view?

I care about the vets but I don’t think anyone should be ridiculed or hated because they don’t want to say the fricking Pledge of Allegiance.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

And further

The men and women who are fighting now are supposedly fighting for the ideals of this country, and Freedom of Speech is one of the core ideals. If we’re really fighting on behalf of our country (whatever you may believe), then preserving Freedom of Speech should be hailed, not hated.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand.

Have you ever heard an atheist go on a rant about veterans? I have. Every fucking day. Its not bout not saying the pledge. If you don’t want to say it fine but at least stand up. At least show your respect. You don’t have to say the pledge, you don’t have to say Under God, all i ask is that you show respect to those who wish to say it, those who want to express their love of their country.

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And its entirely within your rights to stay seated as well

It has nothing to do with disrespecting veterans. And i fail to see what someone being an atheist has to do with ‘a rant about veterans’

by kba26 on Nov 12, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

if anything

it was those assholes that went to all those funerals for dead veterans and held up signs like “God hates fags.” they came to our school a couple of years ago because we had a gay kid in our musical. not a good scene…

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I kind of left out the key point

that these people were all part of a crazy ass church group

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Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

uhhh

no, he said that it was Atheists that generally insulted vets by ranting about them. in THIS case, it was a whole bunch of the polar opposites, religious nutjobs.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh...my bad.

I thought you were responding to his first point.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

nah

come on now, I’m not that much of an asshole

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

But that's infringing even more on the freedoms that we fought for in the Revolutionary War.

You should let other people show their respect but it is completely your right to stay seated.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I am sorry that i went on this little rant.

My point is that if you want to sit then shut up and let others say the pledge. I guess i might be a little bias since generation after generation of my family have been involved in all types of military activity. I just feel like every time someone is disrespectful during the pledge that their deeds are being forgotten.

Not all of the Freedoms we have today were fought for during the Revolutionary War. For example yes we fought for Freedom of Speech but originally it was only for political views. Every year it seems that people manage to make Freedom of Speech a much bigger topic then it really is.

So if we have truly have Freedom of Speech can i go up to a Federal Officer and curse them out and not get arrested?

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but you said they shouldn't sit.

Make up your mind.

No, we do not make Freedom of Speech a bigger topic than it is, sorry. It is in the first amendment of the US Constitution and CANNOT be ignored. Freedom of Speech is an ideal on which our country is based, and it can’t just be thrown aside. No freedom of speech, no America, sorry.

When is the last US history course you took? Freedom of Speech was created because under the British monarchy we had none. And what does “political reasons” even mean?

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

My point is that if you want to sit then shut up and let others say the pledge.

Separation of church and state, dude. Nobody should have to say “under god” at their school in the morning, and no one should be forced, at that age, to go against their entire peer group to avoid saying it.

“Under god” didn’t even exist in the pledge until the McCarthy era.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Nov 13, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

It depends...

most police officers won’t arrest some idiot who comes up to them rambling about pigs and bacon. Paperwork is too much effort.

If you start causing a scene, yes, you could get brought down on some weak-sauce charge and released a few hours later without a charge being brought forth.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

WHAT. THE. FUCK.

You’re on thin ice dude. Don’t go insulting an entire group, it’s against the TOS. You can’t attribute “anti-vet” attitudes to all atheists like that.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Nov 13, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

it does seem to be taking it a bit...extreme

the “frickin” pledge of allegiance is pretty much the most American thing out there, eventually can’t you just nut up and say it? it seems like a pretty trivial compromise that could end a lot of stupid debates. sure you can not say it, it’s your choice, but it seems like it’d be a whole lot easier to just go ahead and compromise. yes it’s the easy way out, no, it’s not Atheistic, but after all, it’s not like you have to stop being one, it’s something extremely petty that seems to be overplayed by people who are easily offended.

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Pro Football South
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by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I am only comparing to my school

where saying the pledge leads to extremes.

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Theres lots of people who have perfectly legitimate reasons for not wanting to say it

and those reasons are far from trivial and should be respected just as much as the reasons for people to want to say the pledge.

by kba26 on Nov 12, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

hell they don't have to say it if they don't want to

but if you’re not going to say it, don’t make a big deal about it. there are just a lot of people who go right on with their conversations during the middle of the national anthem pledge of allegiance. now that pisses me off. I hate to be the perceived asshole about it but it just seems like such a small deal to me. I have a couple of relatives/classmates who aren’t quite sure about their faiths and it seems that they have pretty similar beliefs. no one’s saying you have to change anything about yourself, just compromise and stay quiet for 30 seconds of your day.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That is not the only reason.

Don’t generalize in that way. Being an atheist doesn’t necessarily mean you don’t want to say the Pledge. There are Israelis at my school who do not sing the National Anthem, and I have no problem with that. Personally, I don’t sing Israel’s national anthem, either.

Forcing people to say the Pledge of Allegiance is un-American. Call it unpatriotic if you want, but in my mind it’s even less patriotic to infringe on someone’s natural born rights as an American.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

repeat; they don't have to say it

but they have to respect it. no questions asked, you can’t just be jabbering away when someone else is trying to say the pledge.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I know you're one of the youngin's here...

so I won’t go full-torch on you – but look it up first. The original Pledge was written by Francis Bellamy (a pinko socialist integrationist) in 1892. It has been modified three more times since then, the last time in 1954 (the height of the Red Scare – those Godless Commies) to include the “under God” line.

It’s not “the most American thing out there”, which would actually be, you know, America. It might be one of the most patriotic things we essentially require minors to do in public schools, but I still prefer the Constitution (post 14th Amendment).

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure they did

I was just surprised it wasn’t mentioned on here.

by GeoffreyA on Nov 12, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It an Orioles blog not Facebook or twitter.

but there were some people who did right things to our veterans.

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

write things

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions  

On the Gulf War, Part 1

It was a very stressful time for me, the war. I’ll tell you why – I was in the unenviable position of being for the war, but against the troops. And ah… Not the most popular stance I’ve ever taken on an issue.~Bill Hicks (RIP)

Yes he was joking.

by NSOsFan on Nov 12, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The world needs more Bill Hicks references. Thank you.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

the results are NOT official

But Camden Chat won best blog and best Orioles blog!

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Orioles Hangout
Hopefully this isn’t thought to be a premature concession speech, but I’d like to congratulate the blogs Pinstripe Alley, Camden Chat, and the other 290 blogs that comprise the SBNation from whom Stacey may or may not have solicited votes on the victory. Without the support of the Yankees fans at Pinstripe Alley (and I’m sure others), it might not have been possible.

I’ll just leave it at that.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

Jeebus.

Sore loser much?

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't see why they would CARE enough to vote for us.

And it seems like Tony is making a bigger deal out of this than we are.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair

I’m not quoting Tony. That was the ScottieBaseball character (j/k). But yeah, just because we’re both SBN sites? Seems like a stretch.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I truly doubt many MFY and PHN people voted for us

I have a feeling it is all people from other Baltimore SBN sites.

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know, if there was true cross voting,

I feel bad for the Terps and Ravens SBN sites because they didn’t do so good.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Oops

i was a little lazy and only multi voted for Camden Chat

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

There is just one other Baltimore SBN site

The Ravens one.

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 15, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but Testudo Times is close enough. They’re technically not a BAL site but they are a SBN site.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 15, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

another shot
I hope the folks from Camden Chat don’t consider this a victory, because if so, that’s REALLY pathetic.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

So we can't be proud for winning?

"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra

by MudDawg on Nov 12, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

:/

that’s all I’ve got to say

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

They're just sour they got beaten by a girl.

America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow

by Eat More Esskay on Nov 12, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Little do they know...

Stacey couldn’t possibly have been out soliciting votes – she was shoe shopping.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

More pathetic....

then being so upset about losing?

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Nov 12, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry....

but that website is pathetic. Looks like it was designed in 1998. So much more information and easier interaction here.

"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52

by YeahDonnie on Nov 12, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

it looks so Windows 98 that I half expected so see ads for Saving Private Ryan in the taskbar.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

it's called utilizing assets

look it up.

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Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Scottieball character has a response to that as well
Last night as I laid in bed trying to fall asleep, I started to regret not reaching out to the good people at our Red Sox message board counterpat, the Sons of Sam Horn, to vote for us.

And then it hit me…wait a sec there, Scottie! You actually have STANDARDS and INTEGRITY!!!

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

So, what,

the contest winner should be determined simply by which site has the largest and most active group of users? Isn’t being a useful source of information for non-team fans a lot more important than just having a ton of people who use your forums?

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on Nov 12, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, exactly

The contest isn’t who has the largest Internet community. Nobody denies OH has more posters. The contest is who the public thinks is the best blog. CC won.

And, putting aside his high virtuous character, I have no clue why the Scottie character wanted to reach out to the Son of Sam Horns. They have nothing to gain by voting for OH because they’re not on the ballot. He should have reached out to blogs actually on the ballot. If You Give a Girl Cookie, for example.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Daniel is right

This wasn’t even a poll about who the public thinks is better – it was a contest about who the participants of a poll think is better. Voting multiple times was encouraged. OH wasn’t able to leverage their community to get the job done.

Maybe if they had reached out to the broader LocalSportsHangout community and used the ten LSH communities to influence the voting…. not sure why they didn’t do that. They had ten cities worth of knowledgeable, respectful sports fans to help them out. What gives?

by PhilR8 on Nov 12, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, the Scottie character said that would violate his "standards and integrity"

but if he did reach out to say, Baltimore Sports and Life, who won under the Ravens and Terps categories, would that be such an immoral act. It seems like good marketing rather than shady behavior.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly my point

Basically, once OH takes social networking seriously, they’ll have this thing in the bag. Until then, they’re pretty much like someone’s grandma who’s trying to understand the internet.

by PhilR8 on Nov 12, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Ahahahaha.

The substitute teacher for my English class while my teacher is recovering from surgery is this sweet, clueless old lady. First off, she can’t hear, so you have to speak really loud. When I asked if I could listen to my iPod while we’re working on our term papers, she says, “What’s an iPod?” In another class she said, “All this technology is too confusing.”

I love old people.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Nov 12, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, reaching out the broader LocalSportsHangout community probably wouldn't work.

You need a quid pro quo approach. Other LocalSportsHangout could vote for OH but what would they get in return? They should have cross advertised with sites actually on the poll.

Your mother.

by birdman on Nov 12, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe because most of those links don't work and those communities don't exist. tee hee.

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by zknower on Nov 13, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

They’re calling us ‘YankeeChat’ over there – and talking about how they can’t believe any Oriole fan wouldn’t know about OH. Seriously? Because I’m sure fans of the Yankees took the time to go vote for a regional blog ‘competition’.

Oh well, if it’s not a ‘victory’, why are they making such a big deal about it? It’s bad enough we have to deal with real Yankee fans – but Yankee-like Oriole fans? CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Nov 12, 2010 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

Yes

That would make them go CRAZY over there

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Nov 12, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked it better when we basically ignored them for the past four days and let them work themselves into a lather

and CC still came out on top. I think I’d be content to let them have a huge pity party over there without any further encouragement.

by PhilR8 on Nov 12, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, allow me..

What’s an “Orioles Hangout?” Am I less of a person for not knowing stuff about it, or that it even existed before this whole kerfuffle?

by NSOsFan on Nov 12, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions  

this

I didn’t even know it existed

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Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"

by danielreese05 on Nov 12, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I also didn't know that it existed

and now that the voting is over, I will go back to not caring that they exist. The writing here is informative, and the interaction is awesome. I am a more informed and happy Orioles fan because I found this place. If other people feel that way about Orioles Hangout, then more power to them.

"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."

by tflach2 on Nov 12, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll blow your mind again

So’s the lead singer of Sevendust

Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".

by duck on Nov 15, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

and Hed PE

"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52

by YeahDonnie on Nov 15, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

looks like my vote, delete my cookies, and vote again strategy worked to perfection!

I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck

by twistedlogic on Nov 12, 2010 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

The Reverend Peyton's Big Damn Band puts on a hell of a show.

"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude

by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 12, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

I apologize ifmy above comment sounded wrong

I’ve just been in a really pissy mood lately and seem to bitch about everything… I didnt mean to imply what I’m sure I did. Sometimes I just get grumpy old man syndrome…

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