Saturday Bird Droppings
by duck on Nov 13, 2010 7:28 AM EST
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PrintSo, The Mobbies voting period is over. There's that. Thanks for all who voted. We'll see how we did Tuesday night. Onto the news...
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"Terry Crowley wants to make one thing clear about his decision not to return as the Orioles' hitting coach next season -- it was his choice." I'm sure it was.
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The Baltimore question: Could the Orioles actually be players in the Zack Greinke sweepstakes?
The Forgotten Horrible Bullpen | FanGraphs Baseball
Arizona's 2010 bullpen was actually worse than ours.
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Dave Trembley is again gainfully employed.
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The Orioles may still end up with a former MLB manager as their bench coach, just not the one from Seattle.
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They've stayed quite steady over the course of their 56-year existence, but they've changed little details more than you might remember. -zk
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Ryan Adams went 1-for-4 and Xavier Avery made an appearance of little consequence.
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Could a video game add-on hold the key to screening pitchers for possible future injury likelihood?
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Well I have no memory of finishing the beer in the fridge
But it’s gone for good or ill.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
i used to have a prof...
that peppered his lectures w/ “for good or ill” and “if you will” and he spoke at a fairly rapid pace to the point that one of my classmates once asked me, “what does that mean? for good rill?”
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 13, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Man, I love professors like that.
For good or ill only exists in my writing, it’s something I never say, oddly.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Nov 13, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Why does everyone hate on the all orange unis.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 13, 2010 10:39 AM EST reply actions
orthonologically (sp) bird
I really don’t care for the accurate bird. I just don’t care.
My fave is also the late ‘60s Oriole uni’s.
Librarians are hiding something
yeah, I love those late 60s unis
they are just perfect. Its all about the size of the word “Orioles”. Today’s is too big.
I enjoy the all orange unis, but its a gimmick. If they wore them more than once a season, they’d get really old really fast.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Can we replace the "O's" cap with the cartoon bird?
That would make the Friday night uniform about (6.02 * 10^23) times more awesome.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
by Vuff on Nov 13, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for Avagadro's #
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 13, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Also:
So apparently if we sign Greinke then our pitching staff is on par with the Giants and we are going to win the WS.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 13, 2010 10:40 AM EST reply actions
trade for*
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 13, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Now all we have to do is trade for a over the hill 1st baseman who could DH
Derek Lee where are you!
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
Greinke
For some strange reason, I just don’t think i’d like to see the Orioles already talent-thin system get completely pilaged. Greinke would cost what? Maybe a Britton, Machado, Jones package? Or Tillman, Arrieta, and Bell? I don’t know exactly, but I feel like whatever it is, it’d be too much, especially when Cliff Lee could be had for mere money.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I agree
2012. 2012 will be the year we truly come up from the basement of the AL East. Now is not the time to send prospects away for a pitcher we truly don’t need. Lets stick with what we got and have patience.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
We just gotta wait for Machado
Who will hopefully be a great shortstop/third baseman
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
We better already be out of the basement by the time Machado hits the majors.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 13, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Understandable
However, the Orioles do have a pretty respectable amount of young/cost controlled talent:
Markakis, Wieters, Jones, Pie, Matusz with a number of others including Britton, Arrieta, 3E1N (there, I said it!), Tillman, Bell, Reimold. And of course there is also Guthrie, Scott and Roberts who should be decent for a couple more seasons. That is 14 players spread among everyday players and starting pitchers. The bullpen has some good arms as well. This team might be able to win those elusive 81 games next year, and who knows beyond that.
Librarians are hiding something
Am I the only one who doesn't know
what 3E1N stands for? It drives me crazy that i can’t figure it out…
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Haha....I check this site every day
but more often than not don’t have enough time to get in on the chats, so I know i missed it somewhere along the line. I figured it would be mentioned at some point, or someone else would ask, but I have yet to see it.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
if your really want to know
it’s a nickname for Brad Bergesen
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 13, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I know that part
just not what is stands for/where it came from
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
the 3 E's
and 1 N in his name. that’s pretty much it. when he first came up I think there was some confusion to whether it was Bergensen or Bergesen.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 13, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh
thanks for clearing it up. This place is chock full of inside jokes/lingo, and as I said before, I try to keep up, but my day consists of work/watch son/sleep so it can be difficult.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
his name was misspelled by a lot of journalists.
and mispronounced by a lot of broadcasters. someone here came up with it as mnemonic.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
agreed as well
Greinke is a great pitcher, but it doesn’t make sense for a team that didn’t win 70 games last year to trade for him.
Librarians are hiding something
Macahdo needs to be off limits
a Jones/Machado/Britton package would kill a part of my soul for good.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 13, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Grienke
I would trade two pitchers for ZG so long as one of them was Brandon Erbe. I would not give up Tillman and Arrieta for him.
The Os will still be rebuilding the next several years, so I am happy to watch the Yankees spend hundreds of millions of dollars on middle aged players. My brother-in-law, a nice man although he is a Yankees fan, told me that Brian Cashman flew down to Little Rock to persuade Mrs. Lee that the Yankees fans are really sweethearts under that boisterous exterior. Sign him up for 7 years. Sign Mariano for 3-4 more. Sign Jeter for 5 years. The Yankees will pay for these mover, pray God, when the Orioles are ready to compete.
why wouldn't you give up Tillman or Arrieta?
We’re hoping that one of those guys turns into a Grienke level talent. Trade for him, and you’ve accomplished your mission.
But I don’t think we’ve got enough pieces to get him, honestly.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
except,
we’re really hoping they both turn into that level of talent. or that one is, and the other is above average.
i’m not saying it’s likely, but the problem with trading one for Grienke is what if you trade the John Maine and hang onto the Adam Loewen?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
maine
not really very good. certainly would have rather had his run of decent starts w/ the o’s instead of the mets, but it’s remarkable how closely his career has mirrored kris benson’s.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 13, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
In Balto's defense
he said Tillman and Arrieta not Tillman or Arrieta.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 13, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
Those signings aren't going to bite them in the ass.
They’ve been doing them for years. The Yankees have so much money that bad signings can’t really hurt them, because they could just get someone else. Not to mention, their farm system isn’t terrible. If they sign Lee, they’ll probably get a few good years out of him, which is really more than they need. And if he doesn’t play well, it won’t look like a good move but it won’t at all cripple the Yankees.
If nothing else
they take up rosters spots. AJ Burnett is going to take a 25 roster spot through his contract. So is anyone else they sign this year. You can’t hurt the Yankees financially, but their own misfirings on contracts can hurt them in other ways.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
That's true.
And it would be difficult to trade those players, because other teams wouldn’t want to take those contracts with what the players do on the field. Still, though, most of the Yankees players still are (and would be if those signings are made) great, and they would still have less holes than most other contenders.
Bring back the cartoon bird.
It looks so awesome. We’ll return to prominence with that logo. Think about it, the Caps’ current jerseys are an updated version of their classic ones, and they went from the bottom of the East to perennial contenders. No flawed logic in that argument, right?
Besides, the cartoon bird just kicks ass.
Ive grown to love that bird
I did not like it as a kid though. I’d love to find a cap that actually fits well with that bird on it, but no go. The only hats I can find that fit well now are the Nike adjustables, and they only make new bird and cartoon bird.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
you mean
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 13, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
One similar to that, yes
but the dome is too tall and it’s a true fitted cap. Both things dont work on me. I need the sleeker dome and flex fit, as my head is pretty damn big, but I cant find an exact size that fits. Twins enterprises used to make a great one before they renamed themselves and changed their whole style. Now i’m stuck with Nike adjustables. I appreciate the effort though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
yeah I'm the opposite
I have a tiny ass head (I think I’m a 7 1/4 – 7 1/8 or something like that) and none of the true fitted hats work that well for me. I have a bunch but I only wear one religiously. I’ve got a cartoon bird hat with a whole bunch of signatures on the bill made by NewEra that works well for me somehow. I don’t know if getting a hat wet makes a difference in how it fits but it got soaked in that 13 inning fiasco against the Rays this year and it’s the only fitted hat I own that fits me well so I guess it did something. either that or NewEra makes their retro hats differently…
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 13, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
water tends to shrink wool
and then if it dried off while you were wearing it, it makes sense that it would fit nicely.
I once dropped a brand new hat in the harbor and, after a thorough washing (I wasn’t putting it ON after that) it fits better
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
wait...
THAT bird is NOT ornithologically correct, right? i mean, it’s not a cartoon bird, but i thought the current was referred to as being ornithologically correct b/c it’s ornithologically correct?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 13, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I think
the current one is more ornithologically correct but that’s what I’ve heard it called.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
i guess...
it is ornithologically correct AND lifelike, now. huh.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 13, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
This ... is my boomstick!
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
Really interesting article on BtB about time between pitches
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/11/12/1809639/2010-pitch-times
Only Oriole pitcher on the top 20 fastest or slowest was Brad Bergesen, at #15 Fastest.
Orioles as a team were the 9th fastest. Three slowest teams? 1) Red Sox 2) Yankees 3) Rays.
NO!
1) Work fast
2) Throw strikes
3) Change speeds
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
Or just have Wieters come to the mound after every. single. pitch.
just like Posada.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 13, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
fuck that guy...
right in the ear.
…big target, yeah?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 13, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
crackerjack, boys, crackerjack!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I saw that.
I knew Red Sox-Yankees games don’t take an eternity just because most of the hitters are patient.
hmmm
I’ve always been a fan of the new black uniforms. the old ones were uglier than sin though that’s for sure, the white outlines killed it.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
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