Monday Bird Droppings
Question of the Day: One of the few positions that hasn't been talked about as a "position of need" in Baltimore is second base, but we all saw what a disaster it to lose Brian Roberts for 2/3 of the season. Next year is Roberts' age 33 season, and now he has severe back injuries on his resume. He's under contract for three more seasons at $10 million per, and right now is the second most expensive Oriole on the roster (behind Nick Markakis). On the other hand, when he did play in 2010, Brian was his usual reliably good self. Are you worried, and if so, what would you do? -Andrew
In Orioles news...
Orioles Insider: Should Brian Matusz be in the Top 3 in AL Rookie voting?
Today we'll find out who will be the Rookies of the Year for the MLB, and Dan Connolly asks what our own Andrew_G did back in September: should Matusz be in the race?
Commentary: Offseason course is clear for Orioles - Carroll County Times: Bob Blubaugh
I don't know what this guy is talking about. A strong middle infield? Needing a closer?
Orioles Insider: Why have a bench coach?
Dan Connolly schools you on bench coaches.
Simmons: On Marino and Iginla | Steve Simmons | Toronto Sun
There isn't only one line about the Orioles in this article, but it's one that I liked: "The big surprise in the East may be the aggressive plans of the Baltimore Orioles, who have been messed up forever, but have a general manager with just two years left on his contract and a manager in Buck Showalter who wants to win now."
The Royle Rundown: Two 3B options for the O's, well maybe one
WTF? I have never heard of Jen Royle, but she thinks we should trade Matt Wieters for Jorge Cantu Gordon Beckham. Seriously! How certain people manage to get a job writing about baseball is beyond me. -zk
Around the MLB...
Oakland A's trade pitcher Vin Mazzaro for Royals' David DeJesus - San Jose Mercury News
If I remember my lesson from daveh873 in New Jersey baseballers, both of those guys call the Garden State home.
Marlins deal Maybin and Miller; Only 1 left from Cabrera trade - Big League Stew
The Marlins got Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin from the Tigers as the centerpieces of the Miguel Cabrera trade, and now both are gone.
Hot Stove heats up with start of GM Meetings | MLB.com:
The GM meetings start tomorrow. HoT sToVe!
Pirates ready to name Hurdle new skipper | MLB.com
The Pirates look to Clint Hurdle to right their ship.
Everybody is always, like, "Open thread, you are anorexic." And, I'm like, "No, I'm not." I eat all kinds... I eat so much junk food, you wouldn't believe it. I'd have a heart attack...
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So I had the pleasure of meeting James F this weekend
And you might be shocked to know that he brought up the Maybin/Miller stuff since they were both highly touted prospects traded for a big star and now the big star has continued to do his big star thing in Detroit while the highly touted prospects ended up doing the other team not much good at all.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
at least im pretty sure james' thing isnt an act
that guy’s thought process and responses to things are pretty reliable. Too bad the Cabrera trade (and the Johan Santana trade) seem to be becoming rarer as time goes by: most superstars aren’t willing to negotiate extensions. They’re all about hitting free agency.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
oh it's no act, for sure
Everything about James is pretty much exactly what you’d expect. I miss having him around this place to the point of sometimes wishing doom upon his current job and then feeling like a total asshole for thinking it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yeah, I miss him, too
I have to hold down the “people who think suspiciously exactly like I do” fort all by my lonesome.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Question of the day:
I’m a little worried about Brian’s health, but the truth is that there are so many other holes on the team that take precedence, I think you have to just go on faith that he’ll be healthy next year.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
It's a terribly bad idea idea to sleep on Roberts
but I look at it more like this: who is our backup second basemen? Robert Andino? I think we can probably (no offense to westie or whoever is our Andino superfan) do better off the bench. I think we need to have some better option. A latter day Chris Gomez.
(Checks Chris Gomez’s stats)
Well, maybe a latter day Jeff Roboulet.
(Checks Jeff Reboulet’s stats)
Well, hell, let’s just resign Miss Wiggy, then.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Andino kinda sucks as a backup
but when given an extended look, he plays at an adequate level. for a backup. it’s a paradox.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
I was always more of a..
Mark McLemore guy myself, who finishes slightly ahead of a pre-sexual harassment Harold Reynolds.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Right, it's a concern
But when you have a finite amount of resources, you gotta cut something out. And maybe we need a better backup than Andino, but like you say, who is there?
http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/GXNOz
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Should wanting the extra backup for Roberts
make us take an extra look at Tsuyoshi Nishioka? There’s no point in going after him if we don’t think he can handle SS, but…
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
That was basically going to be my response
I’m worried about Brian, but not enough to commit significant resources to a backup plan when we have so many other first-string holes to fill.
Let me ask this question from a totally different angle then
do any of you think that many of the young Oriole bats were unimpressive this year in part or in total because Roberts – or some other established leadoff hitter – wasn’t around? I want to say, that’s stupid, but I think that the added stress (which I think is mostly artificial coming from a self-imposed “leadoff hitting is different from other hitting” nonsensical viewpoint that I blame largely on Trembley and Samuel) of being “out of position” in the batting order might have done something to some of these guys. Maybe.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Do i think that over the course of the season, having Roberts would have resulted in a noticeable improvement in everyone else's numbers? No
but i think its possible the we win at least a few more of those games where everyone is clearly pressing. Roberts doing his usual thing takes pressure off everyone else to manufacture runs on their own. Raw numbers probably wouldn’t have been any higher, but things like the stupid baserunning could be improved and translate into more wins.
I think it had an effect,
both psychologically and otherwise. We suddenly lost one of the few guys on the team who works counts, and normally a leadoff guy does so in part to give his teammates a better look at the opposing pitcher. Instead, we had Jones or Patterson leading off and hacking from the start.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I don't know why you blame that on Trembley and Samuel
it happens all over baseball.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
because
if that was happening, then they’re the manager, its their job to say “look, this is just like hitting anywhere else. You don’t need to steal bases or bunt or anything you wouldn’t normally do. This isn’t a big deal”. And they didn’t.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'll get killed for saying this
but it sure hurt Nick’s RBI totals.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
well, it did. it hurt everyone's RBI numbers
can’t drive in runs if nobody’s on base.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Considering how many doubles Nick hit
And you have to think that as long as B-Rob is on first, he scores on a double. I think Nick would have had 10-15 more rbis. As much as everyone says rbis don’t matter, which I agree with, that is 10-15 more runs for a team that played in a lot of close games.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 10:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Probably more than 10-15
Brian Roberts is a DOUBLES MACHINE when healthy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yea but nick isn’t going to get a hit everytime that Brian is on base and you have to account for times that the leadoff hitter was
already on with nick at bat. I think 10-15 is reasonable.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 10:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
True story
I just didn’t want to waste a perfect opportunity to say that Brian Roberts is a DOUBLES MACHINE.
That said, I think we should reopen the “open letter to Brian Roberts” and ask kindly that he stay healthy for, you know, more than like 5 games.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
That's what I though
But wasn’t sure.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 11:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
young Oriole bats were unimpressive this year in part or in total because Roberts – or some other established leadoff hitter – wasn’t around?
I thought Baseball Between the Numbers had a chapter on protection and found it’s largely a myth.
Your mother.
I'm not talking about protection
which I don’t believe in…but rather that without Roberts there, guys like Adam Jones and Matt Wieters might have pressed harder than they would have otherwise, and it negatively affected performance.
To be clear: I’m not saying that that happened…but it seems like the sort of thing that might have happened because the Orioles were without a lead-off hitter for 100 games.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I don't believe in protection either
ruins the entire experience
by kba26 on Nov 15, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
which I don’t believe in…but rather that without Roberts there, guys like Adam Jones and Matt Wieters might have pressed harder than they would have otherwise, and it negatively affected performance.
Conceptually, isn’t that a part of protection? That having a good bat behind allows you to relax (and see better pitches, etc.) which aids performance.
Your mother.
maybe?
I always thought it went something like “pitcher X doesn’t want to pitch to the guy batting behind hitter Y, so he gives hitter Y more stuff that he can hit than he normally would, so that X doesn’t walk Y”…which doesn’t exactly make a ton of sense, but that’s what I’ve always heard the argument was.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I literally just bought it as well
I borrowed it from a friend like 4 or 5 years ago. Loved it but I was a poor student at the time so funds were tight. Now I see copies going for $4 or $5 on half.com.
Your mother.
we should start a book club
We should all read a chapter by a certain date. I could start off by posting some thoughts in a fanpost and conversation could ensue. In fact, I’m going to do this. As soon as I get it, I’ll post a date to read the first three chapters and then post thoughts. If anyone is interested, buy the book!
Your mother.
Can we start this sometime after next week...
I have a final next Tuesday.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
I bought the book awhile ago but never read it
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
it is a bit dated now
Is does have a chapter on why Mario Mendoza is important. But I’m guessing the concepts are still applicable today even if the names change.
Your mother.
The actual reason I bought the book for myself
is that I also bought the paperback version for a friend of mine with the idea we could both read it and then discuss is as we go. So this convo has led me to buy two copies. Basically my friend hates stats and subscribes to the Dusty Baker school of baseball and I thought this would make a very interesting read for him.
Buck doesn't need anyone telling him when to bunt
But then, no one does.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
I thought the third was pretty excellent
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
There were some issues with the 2nd, but i thought it was still good
How long are we leaving the spoiler-alert in place for past episodes?
if you want to discuss it so badly, start a fanpost
no big deal
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Episode 2 was kinda the set-up
they had to bridge the gap somehow. 3 was fan-tastic. I was waiting for that moment to happen, and it did not let me down. Great stuff.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I can't believe they're only having six episodes
It’s such a tease.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You could always read the book.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
And that’s a hell of a deal. I bought mine for 60 bucks after having already read all the material anyway in various other forms. Still totally worth it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I know someone who has them
Maybe I’ll just borrow them. But then does that make me, like, a person who reads comic books?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
NERD!
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Call it graphic fiction
and no, I dont think you get that title til you start reading super hero comics.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
You people and your new TV shows...
I just watched the last few episodes of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. last night. Now that was a quality show. (Okay, except for some way-too-campy third season episodes…)
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Get off my lawn!
Nah, I just don’t get cable because I’m cheap (and right now, I can’t even get broadcast), so I watch a handful of old TV shows on DVD instead. I figured we have enough wierdos here that I’d see if anyone else were an U.N.C.L.E. fan.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
David McCallum
Plays Ducky on NCIS, quality.
I do follow some of the actors/actresses from those “OLD SHOWS”.
Relevant:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFp-rsQEpxM
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I watched the first episode of SeaQuest last night
I used to love that show. After watching the pilot again… not sure if I’ll keep watching. It was a fun nostalgia moment, anyway. Same with Earth 2 – lots of fun memories, but not really worth watching all the episodes again.
Yeah,
it’s kinda sad when you watch a little of a show and realize that it’s actually not that good. Happens with videogames, too.
I keep trying to watch season 3 of Star Trek, but I only make it through an episode or two. Maybe I’ll finally do it this offseason.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
This blog might just be geeky enough to answer this question
anyone know the the command to combine two .avi files using ffmpeg?
I'm still using WMM
so I’m probably not the guy to ask
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
Link added above...
…to a crazy person who writes for MASN.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
oh my bad
I saw that got clipped when I tried to clip it myself this morning, but then forgot to change the filter to show clippings from other people.
Jen Royle is this chick that used to work for the YES network and now she sits around on Twitter bashing Baltimore constantly.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
she's a certified idiot. seriously.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Ah, yes, the "underachieving" Matt Wieters...
He was only the best defensive catcher in the AL during his first full season at the position.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I don't think the Rangers'll take just Wieters for Cantu
Cantu played for the AL champs, after all. We better throw in the double-underachieving Chris Tillman. And then we better throw in an actual good piece. You gotta give quality to get quality, people. So:
Tillman, Wieters, and Markakis for Cantu. Who says no?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Only if Cantu signs a 10 year extension
worth at least 150….gotta lock that guy up. Plus with him on the team and those underachievers gone, it’ll be easier to attract big time free agents. Next stop: Cliff Lee-ville
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Next stop:Cliff Lee-villeDonovan McNabb
Oh wait….I thought we were just discussing ridiculously stupid FA signings.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Another reason the Redskins will never win
with Dan Snyder as owner. Go Ravens!
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
I hate being a Skins fan sometimes
Actually, that’s a lie. I’m thinking long and hard about when it’s been fun to be a Skins fan in the last 10 years and I’m not having any luck.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
More or less fun than being an O's fan?
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Hey at least there have been some fun times for us as O's fans...oh wait...fuck.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Look on the bright side
they made him virtually untradeable with that contract, so it’s McNabb/Shanahan or bust!
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
AHHHHHH
Why did I just give her a unique page view!?
What kind of fucked up shit? I mean…just. It’s hard to believe, but that may have been the most awful paragraph of “baseball analysis” I’ve ever read. Jorge Cantu a 28 year old utility guy with a career 5.5 WAR (FG), straight the fuck up for SHJ, a younger player with a similar career WAR (3.8) in half as many seasons at one of the most fucking important positions in the game. I mean, seriously?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
wait, she said that?
I honestly didn’t even it. Now I have to.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well in her defense
She’s saying he should be traded for Beckham, not Cantu. I mean, it’s still moronic, but at least Beckham has upside.
I mean, OMG, lady.
That article could seriously garner a line by line treatment in a separate story.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
no, she says cantu or beckham, and that beckham won't be available.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
ok, never mind, i see it now.
VERY poorly written.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Yeah...
Stacey was right, I think my brain fried itself even reading that line, so my bad.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
Well,
Cantu’s a free agent. She’s talking about trading Wieters for Beckham. (Unless I’m missing something?)
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
don't forget....
…that V Mart is supposed to be our everyday catcher now. BECAUSE HE’S A VET. And young pitchers need a VET.
Never mind that the SF Giants have the youngest pitching staff in the majors, and their starting catcher is….. a rookie. Oh, and did I mention they won the World Series?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
but Posey didn't underachieve!
He’d totally be worth at least Jorge Cantu and Jeff Franceour
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Since I had the tab open...
I read some more of her post.
But perhaps the most glaring positive factor is that Cantu can play both corners, first and third.
Ok, professional scribe I am not, but isn’t “glaring” often used as a perjorative, like “Royale’s most glaring weakness is…”? Second of all – Garret Motherfucking Atkins can play both positions. I hear he’s available.
Now, taking a look at Beckham…. The main reasons why I like Beckham are his age, his attitude and his defensive skills.
Right – we should give up Wieters straight up for Beckham (though she considers this “unlikely” – Ken Williams would never be so dumb!) because of his age (similar), attitude (intangibles), and defensive skills (Wieters is clearly awful here – he didn’t win the Gold Glove).
Special consideration also goes to Mark Reynolds
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
so you're saying we should resign Garret Atkins?
Brilliant! He played in the World Series, you know.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
My preference is to try to pry away both...
Omar Visquel and Juan Uribe. And Cody Ross. We’d be unstoppable.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I can't believe the people who get paid to write stuff about the Orioles
While I toil away basically for free.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You've never written
stories about the most storied franchise in the storied history of baseball stories.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
You need better branding.
Jen Royle is a National Baseball Correspondent. And her little blog has her name in it, used in clever alliterative fashion!
Let’s see:
Stacey’s Side?
Scribbles from Stacey?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
She's also hotter than me
that helps.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
She looks like a skankier Alanis Morrisette.
Not working for me.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
also?
Which MASN intern spent all of five minutes using the “watercolor” filter in Photoshop to create the rest of that banner?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Yeah I'm actually not a huge fan either
Although I’ve been told that she’s hot by other people.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Stacey, Roch doesn't count. He will tap anything that moves.
Just kidding Roh. Kinda.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
*Roch
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
And what does this paragraph even mean?
So those are my two choices. I like the veteran presence and versatility of Cantu but I like the youth and glove of Beckham…. And I’m not sure Josh Bell is the best option of the three.
That’s the only time she mentions Bell in the entire article.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
she's definitely right though
if your options are Jorge Cantu or Gordon Beckham, and you pick Josh Bell…they’re probably holding you back a year.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Not to mention the fact that...
two players not currently anywhere in our system can’t realistically be counted as “options”. I get the point, that we might need to look outside the system, but do you really sit down as AM and say “Hm, my only options are Cantu, Beckham, and Bell, what to do?”.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Julie Donaldson from CSN is my offseason sportscasting hottie
She’s no Amber, but I have to turn somwhere when the O’s aren’t playing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
Add to your frustrations...
the fact that this is a woman who has had multiple “good” jobs within baseball media, and isn’t representing the club very well. All kidding aside, I can’t believe they used a cleavage shot for her MASN profile. Way to raise the fucking bar, MASN.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
So I ask you, who would your rather have, Wigginton or Cantu?
I’m going to start replying to people with lines from this article. I don’t care if it makes sense.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
But would he?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
you start replying with lines from that article
and I will start replying to your replies with things that were the subject of FJM blogs. It’ll be fun! Any new readers will think this place is a madhouse!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Special consideration also goes to Mark Reynolds.
As if we would get any new readers. Nobody even knows who Camden Chat is.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
ahahahaha
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I don't want to parse words
but what’s your definition of “normal?” And for that matter, what’s your definition of “people?”
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Lets start with Cantu.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Lets start with the Capn, Derek Geeter
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
hes got postseason experience, you know
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
This is so full of win
Wish I was available to partake. Stupid job.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
IN MY OPINION, the "kids" need a vet behind the plate
I’m always willing to add in the missing piece: Deadspin sigs.
/dickjoke
+1 piling on
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Not to pile on, but...
As I recall, the speculation was that she didn’t get offered Anita Marks’ spot on 105.7 b/c, during her on-air trial run, she couldn’t stop gushing about, yes, the MFY…
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 15, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I've definitely heard her on the radio before
on 105.7 co-hosting with Ken Weinman. Although I don’t know when that was, or if it was a permanent gig or a fill-in position or what. I think she was talking about the Ravens.
Poor Ken...
I still don’t get why management didn’t keep the Playmakers show together.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Painful.
I like Ken, but her cutesy Kelly Ripa act is just god fucking awful. I remember earlier last year she was commenting on Garceau’s show about the maturation of one Felix Pie (pronounced as in apple pie). Again, painful.
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 15, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
They're the same person...
though I don’t know if I’ve ever heard Royale’s voice: both gush about guys they “know” from their time “around the team”.
Also – I hate her writing style. I feel like she never stopped writing the social column in her college newspaper.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Also, does she have an editor?
So… would the White Sox give the starting job to the young Tyler Flowers or would MacPhail be wiling to package the underachieving Matt Wieters? Highly doubtful, but lets explore.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I thought that lets was just a typo
But she did it again:
Lets take a look at the numbers: At third base last year for both the Marlins and the Rangers, Cantu appeared in 89 games with 318 at-bats where he hit .261 with five home runs and 62 RBI.
Let us! It’s a contraction! Use an apostrophe!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Apostrophes
They’re tricky (you see what I did?). Let’s review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U39sZgwSr_s
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 15, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
No You Tube at work :(
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
This, to me...
crystalizes what I love about CC versus the “other” Orioles blogs. Feature shit (and yes, as a National Baseball Correspondent, you are now a “serious” writer/reporter) is edited for both spelling and clarity. Posts have a fucking point, with legitimate support via links, tables, spreadsheet, etc.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I just let fly over there
But she has to approve blog submissions, and I don’t expect her to approve mine. So here’s what I wrote:
This is one of the most ridiculously stupid articles I’ve ever read.
You want to trade away Wieters—the best defensive catcher in the AL, and a player who has been a stellar performer at every other level of baseball—because he’s “underacheiving” after HIS FIRST FULL SEASON?
You think the “kids” need a VET behind the plate? Did you see who just won the World Series with the youngest staff in the majors and a ROOKIE CATCHER? Or did you just stop watching after the Yankees were eliminated.
Not sure why you get paid for your analysis, but hang onto that job as long as you can.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
dude she went and decided to counter
in case you didn’t notice, her counter points were worse than her original ones. Posey and his “veteran staff”. gotta love it…
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
You wrote the most ridiculous comment ever.
Well i thought it was the best but hey who cares what i think.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
hey, but you're a presumptive mobbie winner
so you’ve got that going for you. Which is nice.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'm proud of being proud of winning
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Make that TWO time Mobbies winner
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
No one has ever won except us
You might call us a dynasty. The most storied blog in the history of the Mobbies.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I know we've talked about that frustration before.
It is kind of ridiculous. More than kind of ridiculous sometimes. So it goes.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
wait.
where is it?
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
ha.
just kidding…
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Via Rosenthal,
Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe mentioned Orioles right-handers David Hernandez and Chris Tillman as potentially available in trades, but actually every O’s young pitcher could be in play for the right bat, sources say. A trade might be the best option for the Orioles, who’ve struggled in recent years to attract free agents. A hitter such as first baseman Paul Konerko would consider the O’s only if he lacked better options.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
probably true
the free agent market, all else being equal, isn’t going to kind to teams like Baltimore who are in a tough division and also suck on their own.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
wow, hot stove is in full swing
some guy in BOSTON speculates who the Orioles might want to trade — just spitballing, mind you — and it starts to get repeated across the interwebz.
Here’s all that Cafardo’s original column says:
7. David Hernandez, Chris Tillman, RHPs, Orioles — Two arms that may be available as the Orioles look to retool their offense.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Just got notification
That Camden Chat officially won Best Orioles Blog and Best Overall Blog for the Mobbies.
In my acceptance speech I’ll be sure to thank all of the Yankee fans who worked themselves into a fatigue voting for our site.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Nov 15, 2010 11:40 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
So I can let it slip now that I rigged the contest?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I quit my job to give me extra time to vote.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You had a job in the first place?
I thought everyone here was unemployed and did nothing but vote
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
your check is in the mail, by the way.
thanks again.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Thanks
and just so you know, i’ve been doing a little freelancing as well. I’ve going around the internet to find polls that allow write-ins, getting the favorite disqualified, and then voting repeatedly while gaining the support of their most hated rival. Camden Chat is now also the most popular most popular science fiction franchise in history (I managed to pit both the Star Wars and Star Trek nerds against each other without them realizing it) and I’m laying the groundwork for us to be the favorite in the Kentucky Derby.
We can discuss my rate later.
by kba26 on Nov 15, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Lisa Murkowski?
Is that you?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Leeza Morowski, you mean?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 15, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
being unable to turn this comment Yankee blue,
I will make it green.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
by zknower on Nov 15, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 for the Yankees
they’re the most storied franchise of all time, and they made us the most storied Mobbie winner of all time.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
with a little help from that duck character
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I think this is deserving of a front-page post or fanshot
just so that OH readers’ heads can explode a little more.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'll fanshot it
I want to invite all Camden Chat and Pinstripe Alley faithful to the party anyhow.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
well, be a little gracious
invite orioles hangout, too, so that they can meet their new Yankee overlords
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
To be fair (what?), i think they've moved on
They destickied that thread as soon as voting was over, and no one’s posted there in days.
to be fair (for reals)
we were just having fun with them, and from what I read, they got all pissy about a little internet sarcasm. Oh noes!
In the end, we all had some fun, and friendships were born, only a couple folks had pregnancy scares, and we all learned a valuable lesson: that you do not mess with Camden Chat in meaningless and yet infuriatingly important internet polls. And we all lived happily ever after.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
by Andrew_G on Nov 15, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
anything else Buddy?
Yeah! Peter has a good left hook!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
our repeated, computer generated actions.
you obviously wrote some sort of a script to vote over and over again too, right?
of course
I own PhilR1 through PhilR10000 on GMail, so I wrote a little batch file that allowed each of them to vote every day.
Sad part is
I fulley expect this to be quoted on another site as proof of our dishonest win.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
and they won't even give us proper attribution.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
btw,
they could use the talents of a certain duck character as they leave 1980s AOL graphics behind:
New Logo contest
As we head into our redesign phase this off season we though we’d enlist the help of our great community. We know there are a lot of talented people out there so we thought we’d start up a logo contest in order for us to select a new logo for the site. The Prize? A choice between a two-year membership or four free tickets to an Orioles game next season.
Here are the rules:
1. Each person can submit up to five logos
2. The logos must be 230×90 pixels and under 10KB
3. No Baltimore Orioles trademarked logos can be used
4. All submission’s become property of Hangout Ventures, LLC
5 Each Entry must be the original work and sole and exclusive property of the person who submits it or the Participant must have written legal permission from the property owner. In the case of Projects owned by other parties, the written legal permission must be included with the Entry.
6. Hangout Ventures, LLC sub contractors, and immediate family members of each are not eligible. All federal, state and local laws and regulations apply. Void where prohibited
7. Your submission MUST be a JPEG of GIF
8. End date for submissions is 25 November 2010
9. By submitting an entry you agree to the terms and rule listed above.
E-mail all submissions to publisher-oh@orioleshangout.com
I can only submit 5 logos? Balderdash. I will submit 5 logos with each of my 42 email addresses.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
That could take some time.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
You know who makes a kickass logo?
You do, my friend.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Okay, I know this has been posted here before
But this is a great time for it
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I was just thinking of that!
Also, font discussions always make me think of this.
Need to convey your fun-loving, approachable nature on your business’ website? SMACK. Like daffodils in motherfucking spring.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
ahahaha that's good
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
awww, thanks. :)
never would have gotten there without the input from you and duck.
@Phil: The logotype is in a font called American Pop, which I fell in love with and actually bought (because I wanted to create the logo legally). I just added the swoosh underneath it.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
For all your hard work I'm giving you a free two year membership to Camden Chat
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Nov 15, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Stacy is on a roll today.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
E I FORGOT THE E!
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
ahahahaha
you almost made me snort coffee out of my nose!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I really wish we'd chosen this one, though

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
oh lord. i forgot all about that. :)
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I just realized that it's the coca-cola font
or intentionally as close as possible. No wonder I like it so much – Camden Chat is subliminally American.
I kinda suck at doing logos
Although I’ve done these:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_9hRd93KbXd8/TJwFb0lfc-I/AAAAAAAADC8/jX0rr4wuay8/s1600/pdactivision.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_9hRd93KbXd8/TJwFaXv0F6I/AAAAAAAADC4/CZYJhrORpcU/s1600/pdratzenberger.png (not much original content, though)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/9hRd93KbXd8/TIr5DU1BHI/AAAAAAAADAw/XJYDcR233Fo/s1600/pdaowshawn.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9hRd93KbXd8/TIj4nv7NufI/AAAAAAAADAo/lal-GpkkIAg/s1600/pdallica.png
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
I like those logos
The church one has an “all your base” vibe that I really like. Something similar, for Star Wars fans:
http://www.toshistation.com/images/downloads/ackattack-10×7.jpg
http://www.toshistation.com/images/downloads/tuskfarm-10×7.jpg
http://www.toshistation.com/images/downloads/back40-10×7.jpg
http://www.toshistation.com/images/downloads/dewbackoutlaw-10×7.gif
Not mine, obviously.
4 tickets to a game...
or 2 years of being allowed to read OH. Hmm…
But seriously, can someone from here PLEASE win that contest? Or perhaps at least submit some funny ideas?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The funny ideas probably won't win you those tix......
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and I fully plan on submitting at least something.
Haven’t decided on what yet.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
I have no skills whatsoever
but I plan on submitting some hilarious MS Paint awesomeness.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
I have mad MS paint skillzzzzzz
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think they would appreciate a bunch of entries like
“Camden Chat owns you!”?
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don't support this
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
They better not
That’s perfectly legal. It’s one vote per account per day. I voted multiple times each day using my gmail, twitter, yahoo, etc. accounts.
Your mother.
someone over there will argue "ethics"
but, yeah. Ads for the Mobbies that were given to every site encouraged everyone to “vote often.” So, isn’t voting often what everyone should have done?
ethics
Tell me about it. Voting often was in the damn title. You could vote 6 times per day if you had accounts for the six methods (gmail, yahoo, aol, myspace, facebook, and twitter). Creating another gmail account circumvents that rule but I don’t think the spirit of the rules weren’t broken as long as you didn’t vote more than 6 times per day.
And that Scottebaseball character line about not reaching out to other sites because he had “standards and integrity” is just ridiculous. I don’t know that guy and I’m sure he’s a knowledgeable contributor to OH but talk about an inflated sense of superiority.
Your mother.
Pretty sure he's staff
and with the sycophantic culture over there, inflated sense of superiority sounds just about right for someone who’s used to getting his ass kissed all day, every day.
I would like if if y'all started kissing my ass all day, every day
How do I make that happen?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'd rather just silently bathe in the light of winning
and let the other sites whine about losing. I mean, some of the shots taken by people who have never had any actual interaction at all have been pretty juvenile, and I count myself in that number. I am kinda enjoying seeing them invent reasons and excuses for not winning, and the shots they take at us are pretty amusing and rather telling.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
Get everyone fired who we don't like.
Same for O’s players who run afoul of CC. DFA on the spot.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Can we split the speeches?
You take Best Blog, and I’ll take Best Orioles Blog?
PLEASE?????
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
What? No speeches???????
WHY WASN’T I TOLD THIS!!!!!!
:)
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
Posey and Felix win RoY
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
oops!
make that Feliz
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I see that Matusz got 3 3rd place votes
good for 5th place. I’ll take it.
I like this tweet I saw earlier and will paraphrase:
“Nobody will vote for Strasburg because he only threw 68 innings, but Feliz will win the award when he only threw 69 innings”
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Wade Davis got 11 third place votes.
That’s kinda nutso. Matusz was better than him.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
About Strasburg
In the voters defense, I think the ROY competition in the NL was considerably tougher than the AL this year. And although Strasburg almost pitched as many innings, Feliz was considerably more effective (138 ERA+ versus 159).
With the injury, I don’t think Strasburg would have won it even if the above weren’t true, but just saying…
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Get your World Series tix now.
The Orioles signed former Cubs pitcher Mitch Atkins to a minor league deal, according to Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun. The 25-year-old has solid minor league numbers and a 5.25 ERA in 12 big league innings.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/blog/2010/11/os_sign_pitcher_atkins_to_mino.html
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, cuz we have great luck with players by the name of "Atkins"
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
At least we didn't trade for this one....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
Is this team really struggling due to a lack of Garrett Olson?
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
We were struggling due to an increase in Rich Hill though
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
I had completely forgotten that we ever had Hill
At least we got them back by trading them the Trachsel.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
"Orioles sign Atkins"
Are they TRYING to give people a heart attack?
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
So they caught the guy who broke into the mayor's husband's car
Must be nice to be the mayor’s husband. My car has been broken into four times and I’m pretty sure no one was out looking for the perp.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I work in auto glass....
so if anyone ever needs anything, feel free to ask.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Good grief
Its only 3pm. What a boring day.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Redskins sign McNabb to a 5 year extension, lol
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2010/11/15/1815873/donovan-mcnabb-contract-extension-redskins-five-years
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
ahaahahaahahahaahahahaahahahahaha
AHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH
good luck with that.
see you tonight chunky soup
well, sure, he's no dog killer,
…but not everyone can have a dog killer for their starting QB. And whatever, It’s not my money.
I hate to break it to you, but the Redskins are the only team in the NFC East that’s undefeated within the division.
You’d better hope your boys can get the road victory tonight, or your season is most likely done.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
they also have losses to the Rams, Lions (second year in a row!), and Texans
the only divisional wins are against the Cowboys (Wade version) and the Vick-less Eagles. ol’ Noodle Arm just isn’t good enough to beat a middle of the road NFC team (see: shitty AFC team)
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
nevertheless,
if they beat philadelphia tonight, philly has about zero shot of getting the wild card.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
truth
but any indications that they might have yet to show themselves, I don’t see it happening. i’ve been wrong before though, I want the Skins softened up for next weeks game.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
also,
aren’t you a giants fan? i wouldn’t talk after the dump your boys took against Kitna last night. My ’Skins beat Romo, for Chrissakes
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
far from it...
Titans or die.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
My Giants beat Romo as well
Into the ground in fact. Shit happens. Thankfully it didnt cost them the division lead. Go Redskins!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yes, but we knocked Vick out if you're forgetting.
They were Vick-less because of the Redskins.
Where are my shoelaces?
yeah
but that doesn’t mean that the Redskins are a better team, just that Vick got ker-sandwiched between Fletcher-Baker and Landry doesn’t mean the Deadskins are better than the Iggles
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe not.
And as a homer I say maybe. Still, who knows how they would have played if we didn’t knock Vick out. You’re speaking hypothetically here.
Where are my shoelaces?
naturally
but he’s played extremely well against everyone else, I feel like he could do big things against the number 31 defense in the league
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
We're 31 because we give up a lot of yards
But if you watch games, we’re not the second worst defense in the league. We’re physical and for the most part we get things done. And while he was in we were doing a good job of stifling Vick.
Where are my shoelaces?
this is the same argument for the Titans D
“only let up a bunch of yards, physical, force opportunistic turnovers, etc…” problem is, we’ve seen in the last two weeks that when the D doesn’t force turnovers, this team is dead in the water. if you give up a lot of yards, you’re going to give up points. there are very very few exceptions to this rule and Mike Vick doesn’t get stifled, it was the first quarter and the very run he was hurt on was for about 30 yards.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
if, if, if.
WITH Michael Vick, the Eagles barely beat the same Lions that you’re bragging the Skins lost to.
Save your hypotheticals until after the game tonight. They won’t be hypotheticals any more at that point.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
hey
scoreboard right? I’m not trying to get all hyphy here because as far as I’m concerned the NFC East has seen enough of MNF for the next 5 years and I’m totally over the whole division and it’s dumb little sub-plots, but for now I’ll save it.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
you've got to be kidding.
the NFC East is the overwhelming majority on prime time games. when’s the last time you saw a storyline about the AFC South or West? hell how about the NFC West or the NFC North outside of Brett Favre/Brad Childress? the NFC South who produced the freaking Super Bowl champions? not even close to as much garbage that comes out of the East. there’s the Vick/Noodle-Arm controversy, the Vick controversy by itself, the Reid should be fired controversy, how much the Cowboys suck and why we should care, how awesome the Giants are this year with Eli “the pick machine” Manning, why Shanahan is right, why McNabb is right, why Big Al being fat is a problem, the Andy “the manchild” Reid in the punt, pass, kick contest when he was 12, I could go on but there’s no point. it’s certainly got a lot to do with how many big name players and coaches there are, but I’m really sick of these four teams right now, especially considering that none of them really look like title contenders this year. the Giants are the best team in the NFC apparently and my Titans, a middle of the road AFC team laid a smackdown to them in their own house earlier this year. I’m so done with that whole division right now and ANOTHER primetime matchup is not what I need right now.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
that by the way
was a rant…
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
that's what I'm talking about
teams that give up lots of yards…that is something that tends to happen to them.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
scoreboard
we beat the eagles on their home turf.
until they beat us, we’re the better team. period.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'm not going to argue who the better team is
but by that logic, the Bengals are better than the Ravens this year. is that something that you really believe? are the freakin 2-8 Bungals a better team than the Ravens? not even close. for that matter, are the Lions a better team than the Redskins? it’s a little different in this case given that the two teams are pretty evenly matched, but I tend to believe in “any given Sunday”.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
requisite crow eating
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"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
appreciated
but unnecessary, no one should have to endure that, even if it did prove me right
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Remember when the O's swept the Phils in PA
and then the Phils went to the WS? Totally proves we were a superior team.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm just glad
that this will put an end to the speculation that Skins would sign Mike Vick after this season. I don’t have to worry about taking the length of his contract off from being a Skins fan now.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Good point.
And oddly enough, as the Skins announced one stupid signing, Lebron James was nominated as a finalist for Time Mag’s Person of the Year. What a joke.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
No joke
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
No Tiger Woods?
Pfft.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Did you read the comments on that ESPN article?
They keep going on about the Person of the Year award going to the person who is “most influencial.” One, that can’t be true based on the previous winners of that “award.” Two, how the hell has a basketball player influenced anything worth caring about?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
In complete agreement.
I understand Obama winning it (despite your political views, can you at least agree that there’s some justification to giving him the award?) but Lebron James? His douchebaggery went through the roof with “The Decision” and in turn he humiliated an entire city on national television. Yeah, that’s really deserving of an “award.”
Where are my shoelaces?
No...there was absolutely no justification in Obama getting it.
Why would there be? What exactly did he do in 2008 that made him deserving of an award?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions
He was the first black president of the most powerful country in the world.
That’s a huge achievement, and nobody else can testify to doing that other than him.
Where are my shoelaces?
That's so bullshit.
How is that influencial in any way?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
You just said it has nothing to do with being influential.
And I agree. The award is all together meaningless anyway.
Where are my shoelaces?
broke an important racial barrier
i guess influential is in the eyes of the beholder though.
Your mother.
Obama didn't break the barrier
the voters did.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Not in my eyes.
I feel like if you say that Obama broke the presidential color barrier that is the same thing as saying that he was the first non-white candidate that was worthy. There may have been worthy minority candidates in the past, but the people finally overcame the racial barrier and elected him. Just like I don’t think Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in baseball. Again, I feel like it is saying that Jackie was the first non-white that was good enough to play in the MLB. The Dodgers broke that barrier by looking past the color of his skin. That is just how I look at it. I don’t expect everyone to agree, but hopefully you can understand my logic.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think there's any judgment in the statement "broke the barrier"
I’ve never once thought that when anybody said that about Jackie Robinson that they meant he was first black player that was good enough to break the barrier, just that he was the one who broke it.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I see the logic but you're chalking up everything to historical context.
And giving ZERO credit to the individual. Certainly in baseball or politics (or where ever) there have been viable candidates to break the color barrier but were denied opportunities because of racism, as you rightly point out, but the person who did break the barrier did so PARTIALLY because of their acumen and skills. After all, Jackie Robinson was a damn good baseball player. And he broke the color barrier partially because of that skill and as well as the historical context.
Your mother.
Also
even if Jackie Robinson had sucked, he still broke the barrier.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't see it that way.
Jackie Robinson did nothing to force his way into MLB and break the color barrier. The Dodgers broke the color barrier by signing him.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
So...
is your objection just with the phrase “breaking the barrier” being used in reference to a single person?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yea, for the most part.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ok
I just don’t see the phrase that way. When somebody says Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier I don’t think anybody thinks “Wow he did it all by himself! What a hero!”
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Probably not
but that is what the words imply. How hard is it to say that Jackie Robinson was instrumental in ending racial segregation in baseball?
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
They certainly don't have that connotation for me.
I guess they do for you. What they imply to me is that he’s the one who put up with the death threats, intentional spikings and hit by pitches, race bating from fans, teammates, media, etc so that the barrier could be broken. So to say that he was just instrumental I would find a little offensive. He’s the one who took the risks and quite literally put his life on the line.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
yeah, when I hear that
Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier, I don’t think he did by himself or that it implies that. But I can see how other people might interpret it that way.
Your mother.
nobody does anything by themselves
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I think the first line of that entry explains it...
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I always thought Branch Rickie gets short changed here
He had at least as much to do with it as Jackie Robinson.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Really??
I think he gets an awful lot of credit. But I think you would get some very strange looks if you said “Branch Rickie broke the color barrier,” you know since he wasn’t the one facing death threats, getting spiked and hit intentionally, or having the n-word chanted at him on a daily basis…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Rickey did get the death threats...
No doubt that Robinson had to put up with some horrendous actions, but personally, I would say that Rickey had more to do with the barrier being broken.
Without Robinson, I think the barrier would have still been broken sometime around ‘47. Without Rickey, it wouldn’t have.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly.
You just worded it better.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
If Rickey got 100 death threats Robinson got 1,0000. And how many times was Rickey spiked or had a 90 MPH fastball thrown at his head?
And I disagree that without rickey it wouldn’t have happened. Some other owner would have done it a few years later, just like some other black player could have done it if Robinson didn’t. Do you think baseball would have stayed segregated forever without Rickey?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No, eventually it would have been broken
But the point is when would it have been broken. As I said, I think it still would have happened right around 47 without Robinson.
Without Rickey, I don’t think it would have happened in the near future. I don’t think it’s beyond realistic that it could have stayed segregated for another 10+ years.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
Seems HIGHLY unlikely
given that Larry Doby signed with the Indians the exact same year.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
A whole bunch were signed right after
Once the barrier is broken, it’s broken. It’s not a coincidence that there were 0 black players in MLB for the previous 60 years, but suddenly 4 in 47, and about 20 over the next 5 years.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
Well but Veeck
who signed Doby, had been trying to get black players for years. Do you think he would have stopped if Rickey hadn’t gotten Robinson in? It wasn’t Rickey’s unique idea.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
He could have
But it seems like a big coincidence that he signed him just a few weeks after Robinson.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
if jackie sucked, then i don't think anybody would have signed him!
As birdfanphilly suggests, Branch Rickie was able to think outside of the box in finding talent.
Your mother.
Sure, but that wasn't my point.
My point was that Rickie made a decision based partly on skill and partly on character, and even if Robinson’s skill had turned out not to be good enough for the MLB but he was the first black player he still would have broken the barrier.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I don't want to live in a reality where the color barrier breaker
wasn’t someone as enormously talented and charismatic as Jackie Robinson. If it hadn’t been him the whole thing might have failed.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
yeah, that's good point
Let’s say Jackie actually sucked. Bringing him to the big leagues only to fail would have reinforced racist stereotypes about the inability of black players.
Your mother.
Yea but there were plenty of other great black baseball
players at that time. I’m not trying to take anything away from his talents, but he happened to be right place right time.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
But it could have been any number of black players.
Just happened to be Robinson. Yes he was a good player, but even if he was the greatest talent the world had ever seen he wasn’t getting into the league on his own.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
But it could have been any number of black players.
That’s not quite true. It had be a “talented” black player. Certainly Jack rather than player X is random to certain degree though. And I certainly agree he wasn’t getting into the league on his own. It’s a mixture of talent and context.
Your mother.
Right the player had to be talented
but I’m sure there were quite a few at the time. I mean the Negro Leagues wouldn’t have existed otherwise.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
right, if there's talent involved
you gotta at least give SOME credit to the individual rather than just chalking it to context.
Your mother.
Yes.
I’ve said multiple times that he was very talented and that is why HE was chosen over someone else. But as BirdFanInPhilly said above, without Robinson it still would have happened.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
right, it would have still happened
we’re probably talking past each other this point. Just because it could have happened to someone else doesn’t mean can’t acknowledge the skill of Jackie or Barack.
Your mother.
The Noble Peace Prize is another story.
I agree that he had no business winning that award.
Where are my shoelaces?
He didn't deserve either of them.
Neither did George Bush or Ben Bernanke.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
The Noble Peace Prize is much more important than any award a magazine could give out
So that’s the only one that matters in my mind. In that case, he had no business winning it because he didn’t deserve it.
But the Peace prize is a different sort of prize than the Person of the Year. POTY is about achievements. That’s why Ledouche shouldn’t win it. What has he done? Shamed an entire city on national television? That’s worthy of an award? I don’t think so.
Alfred Nobel said this about the Peace prize, “…shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.” Obama did none of that. But he did achieve something pretty damn important to get POTY.
Where are my shoelaces?
Not sure it's entirely about achievements.
After all, Hitler has won PotY.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
But he did achieve something pretty damn important to get POTY.
He got voted President? Sure, that’s awesome, but so have 43 others.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
First African-American president.
Who would have thought that would happen just thirty years ago?
Where are my shoelaces?
24 did it first!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Armaggon beat them to it
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Or Armageddon
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
I think you mean Deep Impact
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Tomato, Tomoto
Same difference
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
He duped the American people into voting for him.
That is pretty impressive.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
Just like all the presidents before him.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
sigh.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
W pulled that trick off twice.
I mean, in 2004, after launching a war against the wrong country, he got the entire electorate to focus on the short length of service of his opponent in Vietnam, a war he himself worked assiduously to avoid. That’s some smart politics.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
by duck on Nov 15, 2010 6:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For shame, duck.
Democrats should never concede that W was actually elected the first time. :p
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions
he didn't concede that....
just that W duped people into voting for him.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I don't follow football at all
but aren’t contracts in the NFL not guaranteed? Couldn’t the Skins just release McNabb at the end of season and they wouldn’t have pay him the reminder on his contract?
Your mother.
they aren't guaranteed by default.
“guaranteed money” in an NFL contract is just that—the team agrees to guarantee a certain amount so that even if the player is cut, he gets paid.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Bigger problem...
is that terminating his service via release or trade accelerates all guaranteed money into the current cap year.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 16, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
so then they should do it this year! no cap
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I just discovered that theres been hot chocolate in the kitchen the whole time i've been working at this firm
I have no idea why i didnt realize this sooner.
its not cold enough for hot chocolate yet
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
It's never too hot for hot chocolate done right
Common Grounds in Salisbury makes THE perfect hot chocolate. My kids and I even go there in May to get it after games as a reward because it’s that damn good.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
does it have cayenne in it?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Anything below 60 is too cold for....well for life in general
I’m born and raised in Baltimore, but every year I hate winter more.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
We've got this sweet milky way hot chocolate here.
Pretty awesome.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ahahaha I was just reading an article about what NOT to say in the workplace and one of the questions was, "Are you pregnant? Can I feel?"
I’m pretty sure you shouldn’t say that to a woman anytime, anywhere.
Where are my shoelaces?
That's kind of funny though
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
My wife was barely seven weeks pregnant...
and a security guard at her office asked her how the baby was. She was showing just a bit (more in the way she was walking than anything) but that dude was pretty lucky she actually was pregnant. Now we have creepy granny types walking up and asking us all kinds of questions.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 16, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
I keep hearing about Nolan Reimold's "personal issues"
anyone know anything specific about it? Anything that affects his career long term?
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Only for the next 18 years
He’s got all sorts of baby mama issues going on. The BM is a real winner.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Gotcha
she could have at least let him have a few 35 HR seasons first. Let us have a good power bat, and cash in on his big contract later.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
She was trying to do just that, they were engaged. But apparently she had a few skeletons in her closet, that Nolan found out about.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 15, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
its all in the movie script, people!
spoilers, sheesh!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Is the final scene
a World Series win?
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
thats a little cliched, isn't it?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Cliche shmiche
I’ll watch that movie a million times.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
It won't be cliched if the O's actually win the World Series with Nolan on the roster.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
oh, you meant for the Orioles to win the series!
Oh, that’s much better than just Nolan watching the World Series end on the television while he plays with his child.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Ultimate cliche:
Nolan pinch-hit walk-off grand slam on a full count with two outs in game 7.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions
While pinch hitting for an injured Albert Pujols!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 15, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
eugh.
Good grief… another golden nugget from Royle..
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
Stop
you’re hurting my soul. 3 year deal? That has to be a joke, right?
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
wowzers
so…let’s run through this really quick:
1) The Papi quote is old, and has been retracted.
2) The Red Sox have Ortiz under contract for the year. He no free agent.
3) Hey wait a second, this article is old! You’re just going through her old posts to find hatred to spew? I object!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
It's dated November 1 of this year...
That’s not THAT old.
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by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
eh
I don’t think we need to go digging through some bad writer’s trash to talk smack. No reason for it. It won’t even make me feel any better about being a unpaid blogger. It has zero upshot. Let’s just all move along, people.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I think that's fair.
Being generally limited in the number of damns I have to give, I can’t say that Jen Royle is worth one.
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by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
I admit!
that was an old article, but the fact that it was old doesn’t make it OK to offer Ortiz a 3 year contract under any circumstances. I didn’t even have to go farther than the first page of her magnum opus to find it.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going with the Eagles
Vick is amazing. And i need 20 combined fantasy points from him and desean jackson to win my fantasy game.
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Well....that didn't take long!
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There he goes again
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
this is going to be brutal
41-10 eagles.
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Nah. 62-3.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
And I'm a skins fan.
Although after this McNabb contract I’m seriously questioning my loyalty.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Well you can just look a couple of miles away to find your new team.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
eugh.
I hope you mean the Eagles.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Please refer to signature
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I'm aware
don’t worry, I know all of you purple camo wearing nuts like to try and pawn off this team onto the giant pity-party that is Washington
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t go as far as Camo. Who do you think I am, Bruce? It’s just me and my autographed authentic Ed Reed jersey. With a Ravens Beanie on gameday.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
good
you’ve got a sense of self awareness.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Except for when it comes to Toilets and quikcrete.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'd stop watching football before I switched teams.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
After the season is over, I'm giving up football for at least one year
I’d have quit earlier if the Ravens didn’t look like the best team they’ve had since 2000.
I’ll quit for one year, and then decide if I want to watch football again. The concussion issue really bugs me. You can go on YouTube and see 8 year old kids getting knocked out. Just get rid of the facemask.
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
My Fantasy team wouldn't mind that
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
me neither
Vick’s in right now and I’m up by 30 already but still, never hurts to break some skulls while we’re at it.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
I have D-Jax and Vick and I’m down by 6. They have already combined for about 25 points. I love the Eagles offense
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I have the Skins defense
and my opponent has Philly. Yuck.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I feel your pain
I started the Chiefs-D last night. Terrible decision. And I dropped the Dallas-D to get them. Fucking fuck fuck.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
I had a comfortable lead
but he also has Desean Jackson who is already at close to 20 points. I still have a 24 point lead, but it doesn’t look safe.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
YOu know they are projecting for vick and jackson to combine for about 40 more points.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think they will get benched after half.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
what are you
fuckin psychic or something?
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions
You're a goddamn oracle.
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by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
How do you see the SKins scoring points?
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions
Wow the Redskins are TERRIBLE
That was just McNabb being McNabb…..
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so
what was that about the Skins containing Vick again?
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The Redskins have a defense?
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
270 yards in the first quarter
this is actually sooooo much fun to watch
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
If I was a Redskins fan, I would have just started watching to see how many points the Eagles can score after the first 10 minutes. Because honestly, there is no way they will win.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
It's not even Vick
You and I could go out there and throw to each other. We’d probably pick up 270 yards ourselves. Fuckin’ Landry and Hall couldn’t tackle my grandma.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
it's not like he's doing them any favors though
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
True
He’s made good plays, but the Skins are making this easy. I have no doubt in my mind that any team (including some college teams) could destroy them. They aren’t even getting the basics right.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
ok
let’s calm down. NFL teams are made up of the best college players in the nation. most teams are lucky to have 3 major prospects on their teams. but I definitely see your point.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno man
Minus that last game, Oregon runs a pretty damn good offensive attack. And if you can’t tackle, you can’t tackle.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
true
but the line would get eaten alive by Big Al and Orakpo. LaMichael James would give this Skins team a run for it’s money.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
as long as I'm being serious here
the Skins really aren’t even close to this bad, the Eagles are just putting on a freaking show right now.
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Negative
It really isn’t the Eagles. It’s the Skins. Zero pass rush, no tackling, no nothing.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
wow to think
that 320 yards and 35 points in two quarters is just the Skins being bad? this has approached a new level of bad
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Did you even see the four missed tackles on that simple handoff?
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
Jerome Harrison?
yeah.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Hall just fell on his face
Didn’t even try to tackle besides sticking his arm out. Yea….that’s gonna stop most NFL RBs. Try again DeAngelo
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
This is unreal.
I’ve never seen anything like it in all my life. And I root for some bad teams. This may end up worse than 30-3.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions
What would be the equivalent of 30-3, in football terms?
The average runs scored per game this year in baseball was 4.38 per team. 30 is 6.85 times that amount. The average score per team in the NFL is around 21. Multiply that by 6.85 and you get almost 144 points. So, technically speaking, no football team will ever get slaughtered as badly as the O’s.
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Yea except teams put up 15-20 runs in baseball semi-frequently.
Especially when compared to NFL teams putting up 60+ which would be the equivalent to 15 runs by your concept.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Of course there are a lot more MLB games so
who knows.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
True
I’ve just always wondered what the football equivalent of that game would be, so when you brought it up I decided to do a little math. I think, aside from the exact math, an NFL team would have to score about 70+ to be an “equivalent” to that game.
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Yea. Would have to set the record for points scored.
Currently 73-0. Washington was on the wrong end of that one also.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
So I’d have to say 80 would be necessary then. I just can’t imagine 80 points ever being scored in the NFL.
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Well you might want to stay tuned.
Although the Eagles appear to be return to Earth. Or at least they are back inside the atmosphere.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
"I've never seen anything like it!"
I have. The Redskins scored 35 in ONE QUARTER in a Super Bowl, in a game they were losing 10-0 at the time.
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
I really hate that they had to be playing the Skins right now
This is just adding fuel to the “Vick is a real quarterback” fire.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
uh...
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
He is.
He has progressed leaps and bounds since coming back into the league
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
He still runs the ball almost everytime Desean is covered.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Would you rather him pick up safe yards with his legs or try to force it to Maclin or Jackson?
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
He doesnt have to force it to Maclin
He’s hardly being covered. Desean gets double coverage and Maclin is wide open. They could have blown Indy out of the water last week if he had even looked to throw Maclin’s way.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well true. But maybe that’s part of him developing as a QB. He needs to look for other reads. Because his whole career in Atlanta it was either run or Roddy White. He needs to fins a way to open the running game and look for all of his receivers.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
was White even on the team back then?
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
White came into the league in 05
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
there was no way he was a star though
he wasn’t Vick’s number 1 if he only had 500 yards in his first full season. in fact, he kind of exploded after Vick left in 07 which is when he had his first 1000 yard season and he hasn’t looked back since.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...cuz he knew he was gonna get dumped when his contract expired
Guy figured out he couldn’t eat McDonald’s everyday and actually had to, you know, train in the offseason.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
That’s because they started to pass the ball. VIck used to be run first pass later, but now he can do both, which is why Jackson AND Vick are playing so well.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I still maintain its look Jackson's way then run
Jackson makes him look way better than he is. Put him on, say, the Skins where he has nobody to throw to and he’d keep every other snap.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
There’s Moss.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yea....look how well he's played tonite (and all season for that matter)
McNabb sure hasn’t looked good, but I really think Moss has been awful this season.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Don't sleep on Anthony Armstrong.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Pishhh
He’s a scrub. One of the better scrubs, but still a scrub. They need somebody way more consistent to be the number 2 guy.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
He is better than it appears.
Remember this offensive line is horrible and McNabb has no time to throw. That makes McNabb and the receivers look bad.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
He has had some huge plays this year.
Including one just a few plays ago.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
Poor man's Mike Wallace
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
That's not aiming very high, is it?
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Not something to build a team around
but a good weapon to have nonetheless.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Wallace is a beast
no doubt
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
Eh...we'll see
I’m not sold on him yet. He’s looking good though.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
He’s gotta be consistent tho. And you’re absolutely correct. The Skins MUST improve that O-line. Where’s Samuels when you need him.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
At least we have Samuels
coaching Trent Williams.
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by Knubles and Bits on Nov 15, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
so it wasn't just run or White then
it was run first, run second.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yea...he hardly ever threw the ball
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha...well he DID have Algae fuckin Crumpler
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
This is Crazy
I’m raping my fantasy opponent.
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Let's choose another verb, shall we?
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Obliterating
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
I'm good with that
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
A new word needs to be invented for this
I nominate oblitannihitizing
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
most points by one team in the first quarter
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
In a MNF game
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Just MNF?
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
when has there been more?
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Is it raining near DC?
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
Apparently
Looks like its raining pretty good there. It’s dry in Northern VA tho.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
It's raining footballs and dollar signs for the Eagles
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
People were saying the same about McNabb....
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Yeah but McNabb has been trash all season.
Vick has been insane all year. Vick should’ve gotten the huge contract
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
This is also Vick's best year ever
and being on the “wrong side of 30”, and having taken a lot of abuse with his style of play, it’ll be hard for any team to justify signing him to a McNabb-like deal.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
His criminal past likely doesn't help his cause.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Man shut up.
Did he do his time? Yes! And he’s moved on. Quit beating a dead horse. He’s been given a second chance, and he’s taken advantage of every second of it.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Hey don't be an asshole
The guy didn’t get a huge contract when he got out because, guess what, he was in prison. I wouldn’t take him on my team regardless, so he should be happy he’s even getting a chance to play.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
because he hadn't played in 3 years...
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Um...not exactly
Although I’m sure that had something to do with it.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
a whole lot to do with it
Stallworth was back in the league and on a team very shortly after he got out of the clink for killing a man…
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
On accident. Then after hitting him Stallworth tried to keep him alive while he waited for Ambulances.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
oh sorry I was speeding at 4 AM while high on dope
it doesn’t work that way…it’s a good sentiment and it’s not like he meant to do it but it’s still manslaughter and that doesn’t look good on any resume.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
and by sentiment I mean that it's good that he stayed with the dude
but it still doesn’t make it right.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
You really need to get your facts straight
“high on dope”? Please. he was only slightly over the legal limit for alcohol, and the guy was running across a highway. It was an unfortunate accident.
well he WAS going wayyyy over the speed limit
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Doesn't mean he was on dope
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
True, but DR05 did have that part right.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
beat me to it.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Oh...thought he was going faster than that
(okay….kind of what she said)
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Also he was going 50 mph in 40Mph road.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I love the wicked defense for criminals in the NFL
If the guy who was killed had been somebody you knew well, would you say the same thing?
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Of course not
but that doesn’t mean that should determine how the rest of society should treat them.
Put yourself in his situation
Would you want to be given a second chance to redeem your life, or would you just rot and take shit about what a terrible person you are?
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
And I'd make the same argument for anyone
He shouldn’t get given special treatment for being an NFL player, but he shouldn’t be demonized for it either. Someone who made the mistake he did should be given a second chance, and part that requires the opportunity to reestablish the career they’re best suited for. It just so happens in his case, that career is playing professional football.
Would you get the same treatment if you had committed the same crime?
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
It’s called an appeal. Everyone gets a chance to be released early from prison if they have shown positive changes Vick and Stallworth’s cases were just brought to light more because of the media.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not, but my profession has certain ethical requirements that go along with it
but for most people, I think they do deserve the same treatment. I feel like theres plenty of people on this site alone who have made the same mistake. Driving 10 miles an hour over the speed limit while being that far over the bac limit is hardly an uncommon.
Mine has many fewer ethical requirements than yours does
And I’d be out of a job too.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
This
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
sorry alcohol
that makes it a whole lot better. I already said that he didn’t mean to do it, I’m not trying to criminalize Stallworth I’m just saying that as soon as he got out of prison he had offers. my main point is that prison isn’t a death sentence to an NFL career.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
and it shouldn't be
nor to any career for any other person. Second offense though, they should never see the light of day again, in my opinion.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
First of all, it was alchohol
and he was barely above the legal limit. ANd you made it sound like he did it on purpose.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I think Stallworth is a good player
and aside from the accident, he has always seemed like a pretty good human being, but if anyone lost a loved one in that kind of situation, you probably wouldn’t be as forgiving.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
aactually.
I directly stated that it’s obvious he didn’t do it on purpose.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
This is one of the most ridiculous things ever posted on CC. Seriously get it together.
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simmer your sauce...
what did I say? he was speeding, while I had the illegal substance wrong initially, he was on something (alcohol) and I said that it was an accident. the point wasn’t to defame Stallworth, in fact it was to point out that the NFL is very lenient about past criminal charges.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
well excuse me
I admitted that, I had my facts screwed up because I only saw the first press release on it and never really paid attention to it that well. it was a substance that’s illegal to have while driving wasn’t it? we’re honestly just splitting hairs here
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
OK????
The fact that you admitted you were way the hell off afterward doesn’t change the fact that it was a totally absurd post.
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it really isn't a huge stretch from drugs to alcohol...
again, it’s just splitting hairs, neither one of them is good to do while driving, both impare judgment, etc. can we move along? don’t bite my head off for saying something that wasn’t all that ridiculous, it’d be one thing if I’d said that he was on crack or something but NFL players are busted for weed all the time, honestly I could care less which substance it was, it’s kind of petty in the grand scheme of things
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yes it is a huge stretch. It's completely different.
And I’m happy to move along – you’re the one who keeps coming back to it. Don’t say things that are completely ridiculous and factually incorrect if you don’t want your post ripped apart. Goodle can be a great friend.
And just an FYI – dope might have referred to weed in the 1960s, but almost nobody calls it that these days. It’s much more commonly used to refer to heroin (“dope and coke 24/7” and all).
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
well
I was talking about weed…I don’t know what you want me to say, sorry for this one time I was wrong in the internet? I know plenty of people who call weed dope though, it hasn’t been abandoned by a long shot…
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care whether you say sorry
but don’t get all whiny if somebody complains about a factually ridiculous post that could have been avoided by just doing a 30 second google search about the topic you were commenting on.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
no need to go to name calling here pal
I made a mistake, clearly not everyone still calls weed dope. IN MY EXPERIENCE it’s not a dead term, I’m sitting in a study hall right now and just asked 6 of my classmates sitting at this table to identify what came to mind when I said dope. 5 out of 6 said weed. it’s not the correct way to name it and I’m fully aware of the differences between the two drugs. from where I’m standing though, the term dope means weed and I wasn’t insinuating anything totally outrageous. clearly, we don’t share that opinion which is cool by me, I’m not going to tell you what to think, but in return I ask that you do the same here. the word has different meanings for different people and I’m leaving it at that.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Huh? Where did I do any name calling?
Even if dope means weed he wasn’t on weed and your post was still factually incorrect. That’s the point.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
where you called me "whiny"?
but that’s not the point. I don’t want to start something so I’ll leave it at this; the first time I saw a press release, it said that he had weed in his system. that’s turned out to be not true but I had no reason to second-guess the initial report. if I had suspected any untruth to that report, I probably would have looked into it further before posting but I didn’t, so that’s that. was it ignorant? maybe, but telling me to “get it together” isn’t really called for.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
What did you completely stop paying attention to the story after reading some initial internet rumor? It was huge news for months.
Also I really don’t think “whiny” counts as name calling and it seems pretty fucking whiny to complain about it. In addition to telling you to get it together I’ll also tell you to harden the fuck up.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
yeah, basically I did actually
I don’t generally get too attached to stuff like the legal troubles of athletes, I wasn’t a fan of the Browns at the time and it seemed like Stallworth was starting to get over the hill anyway, it made sense, NFL players are busted for weed all the time so there wasn’t any reason to believe it wasn’t true.
I never said you scarred me for life over here, I just said that it was kind of uncalled for…I’m willing to drop this whole thing if you are, frankly I didn’t think it would be this big a deal and I didn’t mean to piss anyone off like this.
I’m going to take that as a little bit of tongue in cheek there considering how much we all love the “harden the fuck up” guy…
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Dude chilllllllllllll outtttttt
The kid made a mistake. He admitted it. We’ve all moved on now.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Says the guy who told everybody to harden the fuck up for about 6 weeks straight??
Wasn’t it obvious I was just fucking with him? I thought his original post was silly and I told him and then I thought his whining about it was also silly so I started fucking with him.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
You're taking it to the next level
Just stop.
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by twistedlogic on Nov 17, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks so much for stopping by and providing your oh so valued input!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I think that may be going too far
not that it was not ridiculous, but “most ridiculous thing ever posted on CC” is a pretty high honor and not something that should be handed out so easily.
haha this is true
I just found the “speeding at 4 AM while high on dope” to be totally absurd. Not to mention something out of Reefer Madness…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Let's leave it at "speeding under the influence of intoxicating chemicals"
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by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
for the record
I recognize that it was a ridiculous statement, it was meant to be that way and not to be taken totally at face value. I didn’t think it would piss people off so much and I know it was a total accident, and the part that I really disagree with is the " most ridiculous thing" ever posted here.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 16, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
Accidentally killing a human being due to operating heavy machinery while impaired
Is a hell of a lot worse than killing dogs.
Dogs have a very small neocortex and are controlled by their limbic system. Humans, on the other hand, have a huge neocortex and may be the only species that understands that their time on Earth is finite.
All humans die, and humans grapple with this. And this guys life ended before he could make amends. The dogs though, they feel, but they don’t understand that when they die they aint coming back, you know?
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Many animals understand, and even mourn death
Human beings are so arrogant to think our lives are more important than any other animal. Just because we have higher intelligence doesn’t give us higher worth. If animals didn’t understand death, why is their primary instinct survival?
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
you must be a vegetarian then
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all
our instinct is also survival, and part of that is eating other animals. I’m just saying we, as a species, tend to overvalue ourselves because we have evolved complex thought.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
but what about the creepy beef industry?
that shit’s really messed up yet you probably support that.
just so you know, I’m totally playing devil’s advocate on this one, what people say interests me
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I am a red blooded, meat eating American
I’m not advocating veganism, or saying shut down slaughterhouses. It’s a sad reality that life requires the death of others. All I’m saying is, it really isn’t “worse” to kill a human for no reason than to kill an animal for no reason. Of course every species is more inclined to protect itself over other species, but along with our complex thought that makes us “special”, we also are arrogant enough to think we are the most important thing to ever happen to exist.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
I'm far from a vegan as well
and I am a meat eater. But I could definitely see myself going to vegetarianism in the future. I’ve already given up poultry, even though most vegetarians give up beef easier.
I really believe that the less meat you eat, the better you’re being for the earth. I read somewhere that a vegan hummer driver is much much better for the earth than a meat-eating Prius driver.
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Throw a little hot sauce on there
and I’ll try it
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
nooooooooo
i decided recently that kangaroos are my favorite animals. Don’t think I could eat them.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
i know! that's one of the reasons i like them!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
The only reason that's true is also because of us
no other species is as self destructive, or habitat destructive as we are. The planet would thrive if we one day disappeared.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Where else IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE
have we found complex, abstract thought?
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
There are probably creatures somewhere in the EXTREMELY VAST universe
that make us look like dogs in comparison to them. There’s just no way to say, in the entire universe, that we are the greatest thing since sliced bread. We very well may be, but it isn’t likely.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Yeah, this. I agree completely.
But if aliens visited Earth, which species are they going to interact with? Which species will be the most interesting to study its evolution?
I mean, shit, maybe the aliens can deciper whale songs and focus on whales instead. But that seems unlikely.
Aliens > Humans > whales and dolphins > primates > mammals > reptiles > insects.
Is it arrogant of me to swat a fly?
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
No, just to think you're better than it
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
man, I am better than a fly
I could defeat a fly in every fucking thing.
I could run further. I could travel a longer distance. I can do math. I can build things. With the help of other humans, I can change the face of our planet.
I am sitting here and I can’t think of how a fly can even think of trying compare to me.
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
but can you fly
farther than a fly?
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
In an airplane that mankind created
will be his answer lol
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
I can't lie
that made me laugh pretty hard. Maybe better isn’t the right word. What I am trying to say is every animal, from a human to a dog to a fly, has the same right to life as any other.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
the replies aren't even separated from other comments now
we’ve broken the chat
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Yeah, mammal mothers mourn when their young is taken
But most reptiles don’t even do that.
Human beings are not more “important” than anything. We’re made of the same things as everyone else. Humans (and all breathing animals) depend on plants for oxygen, but plants don’t necessarily depends on animals for CO2 due to volcanos and outgassing. So plants have the most worth, in this example.
But I’d say that human intelligence is by far the most interesting subject on the planet. I don’t think humans are “worth” more than what they are, but they are worth more to study!
Also, I’m not saying that animals don’t understand death, I’m saying they don’t understand the inevitability of their OWN death.
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt we're the most intelligent species on the planet.
But we’re not even close to the most evolved. And this planet is like a molecule in a piece of sand in the Sahara Desert x 1000 in relation to the universe. So who knows what else is out there. To say “nothing” would be extremely naive.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
doesn't it always?
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
I know.
I strongly believe in increasing funding in radio astronomy to look for faint radio sources. Actually, i kind of believe in just giving NASA all of our money so that they can tell us fascinating things.
I’d bet that this planet is more than ten times smaller in the scale you just displayed. (actually, I just noticed your x1000, but still. It could be x10,000)
What is death but the ending of consciousness? If humans have the most “advanced” consciousness, then aren’t their deaths more sad? You’re losing more.
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
I strongly believe in the exploration of the universe
but to look for radio waves is pointless, in my opinion. If, by chance, other creatures evolved to the same level, or past us, their technology is likely different than ours, and radio waves take so long to travel, if they happened to have similar technology, we’d be hearing something thousands, or even millions of years old.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Again you're right
But I think radio is acceptable because it’s easy, and hell it’s part of the light spectrum, so it can travel as fast as possible. Also, although the technology would be different, if an alien society was actively looking for signs of intelligence (as we are) , wouldn’t they search for primitive life with primitive technology?
“if humans are x smart, then they must have stumbled on radio technology by now”
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
I would love to live in a time
where we have enough technology to find a planet with life one day. Or for it to find us. What will most likely happen is, like humans are doing to this planet, a species will use up its resources and look elsewhere for a planet to live on. Any planet that can support life, will have it. That’s just the way nature works. Life wants to exist anywhere and everywhere it can. In fact, it’s possible that other advanced civilizations have already stumbled upon eachother somewhere.
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it's awesome to think about
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, we better hurry up too
it’s only a matter of time before this planet become unhabitable due to lack or resources/natural disaster/or if we make it far enough, the sun burning out enough to where the planet pretty much dies or many other possible reasons. We are doomed to extinction if we can’t find somewhere else to live.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Sometimes I think it would be a miracle
if humans even got so old to even think about having to leave the earth due to the death of our sun.
We wouldn’t really be homo sapiens anymore either.
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Our deaths are more sad to us
but we are nothing more than another creature. In the grand scheme of things, we are meaningless completely.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
You and I agree more than we disagree
and I have a meeting at 5:30 am, so I’ll finish with this.
1. It sounds like you need to discover wide-view, thank me later lol
2. “we are meaningless completely” – thanks for sharing that, I can more understand how you are thinking. I beg to differ. With the billions and billions of humans who have died, some of them are still thought about today. Also, all humans who have died have contributed to our evolution through natural selection, doing their part to contribute (or not) to the most advanced intelligent society in our solar system.
All stars die. Are all stars completely meaningless in the grand scheme of things? I can think of one star that is far from meaningless to me.
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
To the universe, we are meaningless
as is our sun, as is existence period. If existence stopped tomorrow, how meaningful would humans/flies/planet earth/this galaxy be?
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
In other words
meaning is completely relative
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Man, I loved this discussion
I really do still have to go to bed.
adios amigo
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by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
Haha ok
maybe it’ll be picked back up another time
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
This is a purely outcome-oriented view of it.
A human’s death is worse than a dog’s death – of course. But results aren’t the only thing that matters. Anybody can make a mistake and accidentally kill somebody. It takes a special kind of asshole to intentionally torture and/or kill an animal. Study after study has shown that people who intentionally hurt animals are substantially more likely to hurt people. Let’s not just talk about the crimes based on the outcomes, but what they say about the people that committed them.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
See direct above comment
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
manslaughter
the poor man’s murder. fine you don’t like that one? Pacman Jones then! hell I don’t know if Tank Johnson went to prison but he had a bunch of run ins with the law.
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
If Charles Manson was young and could run a 4.3 40
and got out today, he’d be on an NFL roster.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
and by that I mean the Bengals
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
He's white, he's not gong to run a 4.3
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Fine, the DC sniper then
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
ouch man, ouch
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
talk to Marc Mariani
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by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I like that guy
Wish he’d go back to freestyle skiing
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by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
It was a wait and see thing, and he’s proven all the critics. But people still find a way to hate on him.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Well yeah.....and some of that is well-earned
Only in the NFL (or in the case of Gilbert fucking Arenas, the NBA) can you be a convicted criminal and still make millions.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
GIlbert is a dumbass
He didn’t really commit any REAL crime, all he did was bring unloaded guns in as a prank. He’s a dumbfuck, but he’s still a monster on the court. He’s coming off a 30 point game.
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone who puts up a game winning 3
and turns around in celebration BEFORE seeing it go in….is pretty beast.
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Another fun fact

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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Jaworski tonight said,
“he’s paid a harsh penalty for what he did. He did time in jail, he gave up the money….”
I almost vomited. Dude spent a year and a half in prison and didn’t get paid millions of dollars. I’m supposed to feel sorry for him? No way.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Only feel sorry if someone is wrongly convicted or unjustly penalized
He knew he was doing wrong and paid the consequences, end of story.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
not end of story...
… to those who feel he didn’t really pay many consequences.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
He got what the system dictates
you can’t really hold that against him
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Arguing whether the system is correct
is a whole different story
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
i can hold whatever i want against him
I think he’s a detestable human being. him spending a few months in jail won’t change that.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I don't disagree with you
but do you think he doesn’t deserve a 2nd chance? Granted, if he wasn’t caught, he’d probably still be doing the same thing.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
no i don't think he deserves a second chance.
not a bit. i put what he did up there with some of the most heinous crimes i can think of.
would i give a murderer or rapist or child molester a second chance a the nfl? no.
and nor would i give one to someone who knowingly ran a dogfighting ring for years. it’s just beyond any scope of normal that i conjure up.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I happen to mostly agree with you
but I happen to think the system/people in general also have a lot of fault in it.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
everyone draws their lines differently
whether the justice system went far enough or not can be debated until the cows come home.
the fact is, nobody put a trigger to the eagle’s head and said, “you have to sign this guy.” that’s all on them. it’s on reid and mcnabb, for convincing lurie to do it.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
* eagles' heads
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
It isn't an NFL team's responsibility to interpret the law
some teams have higher moral codes than others, but if a player who can clearly make their team better is available, many teams will take a shot. It is a business after all.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
many teams will take a shot,
and many won’t.
It’s not about “interpreting the law.” It’s about who you are willing to work with. What you will tolerate, and what you won’t.
A LOT of teams passed on Vick.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I bet a lot less pass on him this time around
unless Philly signs him before he hits free agency
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
no doubt.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Because very few in the NFL value any kind of character
As long as you make plays. Why do you think Pacman Jones is still in the league? Or Donte Stallworth?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
It's not like he was signed for the league minimum
He didn’t get anything huge, but it was a decent deal, and he’ll do better this time around.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
that was supposed to be a reply to the contract talk
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Exactly
He got out of prison to make MILLIONS. How many people can say that they accomplished that?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
hahahahaha
True….
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
He did his time
That doesnt absolve him of scrutiny. When you do something as deplorable as he did, you deserve to be trashed on at every turn. Playing football well doesnt change that. Just because he fulfilled his legal obligation doesnt mean everyone has to love him. I hope he gets hit by a car tonight after the game, personally. And then electrocuted and drowned.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The sad thing
is that for a lot of people playing football well actually does make everything ok again.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
And just to be clear...
I obviously dont wish for all that stuff to really happen to him. If it did I wouldn’t shed a tear, but you get what i’m saying.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Okay...I'm not gonna go that far
But I really wish he wasn’t allowed to play football. I’ve been saying that since Philly originally signed him.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 8:30 AM EST up reply actions
Im actually fine with him being ALLOWED to play football
There’s no reason to take that away from him. I do, however, wish the owners had stepped up and said that they dont care how fucking talented you are, we arent hiring you. I knew it wouldnt happen, but it would have been nice. Now you have a whole city (and many outside that city, too) embracing the douche because he’s good at football.
I guess ultimately I wish it wasnt so easy for people to forgive him for what he’s done an wear his jersey again. We chastise someone like Clemens for taking PED’s and vow to never let him see the HoF, then we turn around and fawn over the guy that did actual harm to helpless living animals. I’ll never understand it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
by daveh873 on Nov 16, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
well said.
this pretty much sums it up for me.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Rec'd for truth
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'd almost bemore pissed if it was cats
though if he was running a cat fighting circuit, I might have felt a bit of pity for his troubled, ill mind.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Like you could force cats to fight.
they’re way too smart for that.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
don't tell people to shut up on this board.
one warning is all you get.
And for the record, just because he “did his time” doesn’t mean he isn’t a repugnant human being.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
yeah this is such old news by now
he’s so clearly not the same person anymore.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
That has nothing to do with it.
He didn’t get a big contract because he was a huge risk when he got out. Just because he’s past that now has nothing to do with when he signed the contract.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I was talking about his next contract
his past really shouldn’t factor into that one at all IMO.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt it will
But the fact remains, he’s still playing on that initial deal.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
He's the same person
Maybe he changed certain parts of his behavior. Maybe there are certain people that he avoids. He didn’t change his name, did he?
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Only to Ron Mexico
but that’s a different story entirely….
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
do you think he's still a threat to start killing dogs again?
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 15, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don't really care
It’s between the police, his employer, and him. If he starts killing dogs again, he’s going to take more precautions to not get caught. If he gets caught again, he’ll get a longer jail sentence than before, most likely (depending on the state, I guess). I don’t think he’s ever going to kill a dog again. Why would he? There is no possible benefit.
I mean, I do care. I would hate it if he started killing dogs.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
He's sure earned it
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think Philly wants to wait and see how he does come playoff time.
Outside of Indy, Vick hasn’t started against anybody good.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
But you never know if it's just a one year thing with him
he has definite potential to significantly regress.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
How? He's been progressing every game this season/
Who’s to say that won’t continue?
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by Zachary Beard on Nov 15, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying it won't
I’m just saying it’s possible, and something teams will consider before giving him 40 million guaranteed.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Absolutely
Although I have to say, I laugh in Danny Snyder’s general direction. Not my money he’s wasting.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
no kidding
this game is making me physically ill
On the plus side, it’s ONE GAME. I have no doubt they’ll put it behind them.
I expected zero from the Skins this year, and they may still finish above .500. Or not.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
This game is putting Cin/Cle to shame
58-48 a few years back
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
At least McNabb is trying.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
We may, just may, have a game
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
If you just jinxed it, duck character, you sir are banned.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 15, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
What the fuck is going on with this football game?
45-14? Did they decide to just contest the game in Madden?
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 15, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions
My typical Madden score
is close to 100…on every level except All Madden, then it’s about 20
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
I used to have that problem too.
It’s such a hard balance of wanting to kick ass but also wanting to feel challenged.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Nov 15, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
True, I get frustrated on All Madden because running is nearly impossibly
but anything less and it’s like USC playing Towson.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
impossible*
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Yea....the thing I've noticed about All-Madden is that the CPU team doesn't get better
You just get worse. My wide-open receivers drop perfect passes, my RBs fumble with much greater regularity, and my OL becomes essentially useless.
Then I switch back to All-Pro or whatever the level below All-Madden is and I crush the computer. I usually isn’t even close. I really want them to come up with a better difficulty level.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
They have the adjustable difficulty as well
but I swear anytime I use that it’s even easier. All-pro is all 10’s and all-madden is all 15’s, and if I set it to all 13’s, I generally win by more than if I just played on all-pro.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Exactly!
It’s so annoying. Don’t get why it does that. I’ve even tried setting some of them at the All Madden level, but it doesn’t change anything.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 16, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Restarting the discussion down here
if you care to follow
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
59
wow
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Even if Philly tries to let up
they’ll probably still score more…any guesses on final Eagles total?
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
I'll only go as far as
65 31. Backups should finish out the game on both sides, if the teams knew what was good for them.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Why even call penalties at this point?
Or even stop the clock? Just take the ’skins out back like a horse with a broken leg and do what you have to do.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
Loney?
There were too many comments to read today so this may have come up…what do you guys think of Loney? I read on MLBTR they would move him and go big for a FA. Not much power but I thought he had been pretty consistent with both bat and glove. Then again, I’m usually asleep by the time they play.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
He's better than anything we have currently
but he’s not the answer either. Ideally, if we had the pieces we really need, he’d be a nice backup for us.
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
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