Thursday Bird Droppings
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PrintFrage des Tages: As a matter of pure and complete speculation, if the Arizona Diamondbacks made shortstop Stephen Drew available with an extension negotiation window, what would you as shadow GM of the Orioles be willing to part with for him? You'd be set at shortstop for the foreseeable future, no more Cesar Izturis, no more Robert Andino...but at what price? -Andrew
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Anybody else noticed Kam's AFL stats?
8 G, 12 IP, 9 H (1 HR), 2 BB, 18 SO. I can’t tell whether that’s encouraging, or mostly because he’s a 26-year-old in the AFL and/or it’s a tiny sample size.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
It isn't discouraging, at least.
But I doubt it truly tells us anything about his future as a pitcher.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe on display as a trade piece
Maybe somebody else would want him like say….. Arizona as part of a Reynolds deal? I wouldn’t mind Drew in a bigger deal, too.
I seriously doubt anybody looks at AFL stats as anything more than a curiosity
tell me Kam the Destroyer can do that in the big leagues and I’ll take notice. Destroying the AA talent at the end of a long season for 8 games? Not impressive enough for teams to take note.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Greg Grillis is a genius, I'm on like my 3rd full listen of the new Girl Talk album.
Anyone who makes essentially the worst of pop music into something that awesome deserves an award
highly recommended:
http://www.illegal-art.net/allday/
by kba26 on Nov 18, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i'm pissed because i forgot my headphones today
So i wont be able to listen to it a 5th time until tonight.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 18, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
he's apparently playing here (b-more) at the end of january
If you haven’t been to one of his shows, I’d recommend – especially if he can land dan deacon to open again.
He's playing in pittsburgh on 12/3 and 12/4, i'm strongly considering that
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 18, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
yes it's awesome
although the opening has yet to not make me just want to listen to Sabbath
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Yes to Drew...
I will give them Chris Tillman and their choice of Jose Mesa and Bob Milacki.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 8:53 AM EST reply actions
I think they may hold out for Armando Benitez
Dudes got a live arm.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions
Milacki has the Mentor thing going for him...
and if that isn’t enough I will also throw in both Chito Martinez and Sherman Obando.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
Well, the D-Backs really need some bullpen help
swap out Obando for Jay Tibbs and I think there is a deal.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
Get on it, AMac!
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions
could you throw in Donavan McNabb?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
That's and interesting proposal...
so here’s my updated list:
Orioles Get: Stephen Drew, Mark Reynolds, and Governor Jan Brewer
Diamondbacks Get: Chris Tillman, Bob Milacki’s 1992 Topps Baseball Card, Sherman Obando’s Rule 5 Draft Notice, Donovan McNabb, County Executive Jack Johnson, $80,000 in cash and a bra of undisclosed size.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
throw in a semi full of Esskay franks
and I don’t see how the D-backs walk away from that.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Especially since I hear the Cardinals are in the market for a QB...
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
The point of the question
is not “do you want Stephen Drew”? Because the answer is obviously yes. I could just as easily ask what you would be willing to give up for Troy Tulowitz…Tulowizs…Tulowitzk…eh, let’s just stick with Stephen Drew. The point is how much do you want to have a long-term settlement of a superstar caliber player at a position of desperate need? What would you be willing to sacrifice to do that? And of course “nothing” is a good answer…if you have a good reason for it.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I think that it would absolutely be worth it...
to make a move for an AS-caliber SS. Tillman is really the guy I expect teams to have the most interest in (outside of Matuz) if only because he’s young, under team control for a while, and really has the ability to dominate against lesser competition.
Tillman alone does not a trade make, so for the other pieces I would throw in whichever of Pie/Reimold they like and call it a day. I am nowhere near as versed on our farm system as you are so I’m only working with 40-man talent on this one.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions
Not many of us are as well versed as Andy G
but if they wanted anyone outside Britton and Machado, I wouldnt think twice.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'd rather go 1 year with Izzy / Andino
and wait for JJ Hardy after next year. This way there is no need to trade any of the young talent for a player who is remarkably similar to Hardy, who can be had as a FA.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
This is basically what I was going to say.
Drew’s a better hitter, but he also plays in the NL in a hitters’ park, and Hardy is less than a year older with a better defensive track record.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
well, like I said, my point isn't specific to Drew
what would you give up for Hanley Ramirez to lock him up long-term?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Well, let's say Tulo, because Hanley's defense would drive me crazy.
But I would guess the price would be too high… I don’t think we can afford to give up more than one of the young pitchers. We don’t really have anybody coming up for a while once Britton does, and I don’t want to let go of him or Matusz.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
flip it around
if we had Tulo but not Matusz or Britton or Tillman (just spitballing…def. not saying that that is what we would be trading for a guy like Tulo)….would you be willing to give him up for unestablished pitching depth, despite the years he still has under contract?
Would you be willing to trade Nick Markakis for a really good young pitcher and another pitcher not as good with high ceilings?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I don't think I'd give up Tulo for anything reasonable,
considering that he’s a bargain locked up through 2014. I’m not good at coming up with trade scenarios, but my gut says that I’d hang up unless Matusz were included, at least one of Tillman/Britton/Arrieta, and another piece if it’s only one more pitcher.
Nick, I would think about more… but I’d be very reluctant to give up one of our few high-OBP guys, and I have no idea how we’d replace him.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
this
Drew’s been in an NL hitters park, i think you’d have to overpay because of that.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 18, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
But can we count on FA as an option?
If we trade, the O’s get the player for the length of the contract unless the O’s decdie to deal him. Maybe it’s only a year, but it’s a year we have him and can negotiate.
If we depend on FAs to solve everything, especially a speciifc one at a specific position (like Hardy), what’s Plan B if he doesn’t sign?
I’d rather trade and have a better chance to lock up a really good player once he’s in our uniform than take a chance we might be able to sign someone as a FA. What is he pulls a Konerko and takes a lesser offer somewhere else becaus he doesn’t want to come here? What then?
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
True,
but we’re only actually trading for the period during which he’s under contract. I don’t see the opportunity to extend a player as significantly better than just trying to sign him once he reaches FA… but I’m quite open to being proven wrong on that point.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Excellent point
I always think we significantly overrate our ability to bring in top quality FAs here. (Not that Hardy is top-notch, but he’s the best of a fairly weak SS class)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions
I feel like we're overrating Hardy here
he played in 101 games last year and hit less than guys like Cliff Pennington, Edgar Renteria, Jimmy Rollins, Juan Uribe, Marco Scutaro, and Derek Jeter. He’s a massive upgrade over Cesar, but there’s a ton of guys who are.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Truth
I’d still take him over the guys listed there outside of Scutaro maybe. He won’t command a ridiculous salary like Rollins and Jeter would and I bet he plays better D than Jeter.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Actually...please scratch that comment from the record.
Hardy committed 11 errors last season. That’s 5 more than Jeter. Clearly Jeets wins.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I feel like he's on par with drew actually
Both being good but not great players. Drew’s defense appeared to improve last year, that could make him more valuable but maybe hardy will go back to hitting 25 hr a year.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 18, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Is Stephen Drew really a superstar caliber player?
I mean he’s good, but that’s pretty high praise.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well, I like him a lot
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Oh...that settles it then.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
I like him a lot, too
I was just surprised at the wording. He’s not Tulo or Hanley.
I’d give them Guts and Felix for Drew.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I was trying and failed to set up
a more in-depth question about our large positional deficiencies and the perceived worth of our young pitching depth, and I decided to settle on a guy who seems like a very good young shortstop whose name I can spell.
Oh well. Carry on then.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
that's the problem with trades
We just do not have the pieces, especially in the minors. I’m personally willing to part with some young pitching for a guy like Drew. Tillman has been mentioned, I’d be willing to part with Bergesen as well, probably even Britton.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
A lot for a bat that we don't even know will function in the AL
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Guts will be 32 in 2011 and a FA in 2013
We have no idea what Felix will ever be.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well, we know one thing he will always be....
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
a superstar rapper?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Well, that, and adorable.
And very exuberant when Mike Scossia gives him the evil eye.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
That's true of course
But we’re a bit limited on the pitching don’t you think? I don’t want Britton being rushed to the bigs…..
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody else disturbed by...
the fact that Toronto already seems to be way out in front of us again in the free agent sweepstakes? They didn’t get Uggla, but they were frontrunners for quite a while. They also snagged Rajai Davis to add speed & defense, which I think is one of those under the radar pickups that really help solidify the team. When the hell is McPhail going to show us that he means business? I’ve defended him for a long time but my fuse is really short these days. Jorge De La Rosa seems to be on our radar as well as Victor Martinez, correct? There’s a start! Go get them! Now! Don’t let them slip away! Spend some MASN $ for God’s sake.
Rajai Davis?
if that’s all it takes to win the offseason, then more power to them
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
hey, they came in second for uggla too!!!
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 18, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
the point I'm making
is that they’re out in front of us (AGAIN) wheeling & dealing to solidify their team while we stand pat (AGAIN). And if you guys don’t see this as a problem and want to make snarky comments about it that’s real cool too.
by KellRawLive on Nov 18, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
it's been about three weeks
calm yourself.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Yeah...
and I’m not exactly a proponent of being all “Oh noes – the BJ’s acquired Rajai Davis”. If you feel left behind because we didn’t acquire our sixth/seventh 40-man outfielder, I don’t know what to say.
And aside from the semi-surprise of the Uggla deal and the massive overpayment for Benoit – what else has happened?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
also, deal in facts
They didn’t get Uggla, but they were frontrunners for quite a while.
This is just a bunch of hearsay. You really have no idea if they were frontrunners. You have no idea that we weren’t. Any speculation as to where they were on Ugglia is based on a bunch of random tweets and whatever crap people are posting to mlbtraderumors.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
This is why I hate the twitter machine.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
oddly, it is why I love the twitter machine
unsubstantiated rumors get me going in the morning.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I was just about to say that
I love twitter ridiculousness more than life itself. Especially at the trade deadline and such.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Hell, everybody's out in front of us.
Shocker. Meanwhile, Andy will dick around waiting to get out-bid for Beltre and “aggressively” pursue De La Rosa? Not sold on him by a long shot and we give up a pick. Do we really need another lefty in the rotation? Much more interested in Gavin Floyd. And I thought V-Mart was a target, but it’s pretty quiet now.
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 18, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
V-mart may actually be a fit
He may be stuck at DH and part time catcher, most teams cant really use that but we could. Keep Luke at 1B, him at DH and backup catcher and that hole is filled for now. Leaves us flexibility too, if we go after a top 1B next year they could move luke to LF if Reimold or Pie dont show us anything more than being a 4th OF. 3B seems to be a lost cause unfortunately. Beltre is good, but i just dont trust him to be honest.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 18, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
we're lying in the weeds!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Midseason form!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
TRAPEZOID!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
This is how I see it working...
VMart would be the every day 1B, Wieters the starting C, and Luke the everyday DH. When Matt sits, VMart moves to C, Luke plays 1st, and DH gets manned by Nolan/Felix. This way we dont have to carry a no-bat backup C, and we can be a whole lot deeper as far as late inning defense/offense on the bench., not to mention we’d never have a huge offensive downgrade regardless of how often they feel like resting Matt (that Tatum/Izzy/Atkins black hole at the end of the lineup still gives me nightmares).
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I, too, am getting on board the VMart train
but you have to acknowledge that the majority of the contract that he signs (if it’s in Bmore anyway), he will (or ought to) be the team’s primary DH. And it is a little odd to give up draft picks and a lot of cash for a DH.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Yea, I hear you on that
but if he can plug 1B for us this year and (god forbid) if we dont land any other 1B in 2011, then I think he becomes somewhat worth it. Let me put it this way; I like it alot more than signing Carlos Pena.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm gonna steel myself for the fatal blow here
but while I, too, like that plan (first base in 2011, DH beyond)….his bat won’t play at first. I would not be that happy with VMart at first for the next four years, especially with the choices that we might have between now and then.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
nope, i won't even respond to it anymore
but that is how I feel. Just deal with it, haters.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'm hatin'
But mostly cuz the cute girl in line behind me at the deli did not respond and gave me a scowl when I smiled and said hello to her.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed!
What the hell?? What did I do to deserve that?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing!
You’re good enough, you’re smart enough, and gosh darn it, people like you!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I feel like you're mocking me here.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just having some fun
Seriously, there’s no reason to be rude to someone who is simply being pleasant.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
She probably assumed I wasn't simply being pleasant.
It’s really hard to look casual when trying to casually smile at a cute chick.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Keep your distance without looking like you're trying to keep your distance.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
I dunno, just fly casual!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Now don't get jittery....there are a lot of command ships.
Okay….maybe she knew I was Star Wars nerd at heart.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
she's quoting something
from before your time.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
After I wrote it I realized he might be too young
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I thought everybody knew Stuart Smalley.
Even the young. But apparently not.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Oh....that makes sense
I’m quite the youngin’
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Not to mention the politics...
I don’t think he is fond of Al Franken… though the skit is pretty hilarious
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Maybe you had something stuck in your teeth
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't
Although you did convince me to check and make sure.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I actually get what you are saying
but if we cant land a better 1B in 2011, i’d be ok with it. Also, it in no way precludes us from chasing a top tier bat at 1st, as he still would have plenty of value to us as a DH and backup catcher. Point is he makes the team better regardless (and gives us a viable alternative in order to save Matt’s knees), and that works for me.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Floyd worries me moreso than Jorge
What does he top out at? 88?-89? I know velocity isn’t everything, but when he doesn’t have pinpoint control he gets absolutely murdered, and we just went through that with the mentor. I feel Jorge has more upside & may have a bit of an advantage (if only for a little while) over Floyd since our opponents have all seen Floyd much more than De La Rosa. Just my two cents ;-)
thoughts?
by KellRawLive on Nov 18, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Can we stop with this de la Rosa thing?
He has never done anything in his career. He barely pitched 100 innings last year and in 09 he hit 185 in his only semi successful season. And I’m on my phone so I can’t check b-r but I believe his era+ that year was like 108. Unless Im missing something somewhere along the line, this guy is mediocre at best and will bring nothing to this team.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
those stats are inflated because of his home park to a certain extent, no?
I admit, it’s a risk/reward situation, but what other alternatives do we have? We need someone to replace the mentor and De La Rosa is young with loads of talent.
by KellRawLive on Nov 18, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
his walk total isn't
over 4 batters walked per nine innings in each of his seasons in Colorado. That would definitely inflate coming to the AL East. It’d be the second coming of Danny Cabrera at best.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Which one - the guy that dominated the Twins and Yankees that one time...
or the guy that was all “ready, fire, aim”?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Why do we need somebody to replace mentor?
Guts, Matusz, Bergesen, Arrieta, Tillman/Vandenhurk/Hernandez/Britton/etc seem like enough to me.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Well apparently we're trading like all of those guys for pretty weak upgrades
Except Drew maybe.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I think Im done with DH the starter
but I agree: no more mentors!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Oh I'm not advocating
but he’s certainly an option if things go to shit. I don’t see why we need to give up potential future pieces for mediocre or worse starters to fill the spot of an awful starter.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What if the mentor was...
named Cliff?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn't spit on that. Or his wife for that matter.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
I don't want John Ratzenberger anywhere near this team!
but I would accept Cliff Floyd. He thinks Dinosaur bones are a Jewish conspiracy, you know.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
sorry, Cliff Floyd
I was thinking of Carl Everett. I no longer want Cliff Floyd mentoring this team.
But does anyone know Carl Everett’s number?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Don't you mean...
Carl Everett? The only Carl I want is named Winslow.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
??
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
Right down the line: WHIP, ERA, whatever. You pick the #. None of them command the attention he’s getting. Man, the FA market for starters suuucccckkkss. Again: Gavin Floyd.
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 18, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
It certainly does suck!
party on Wayne, party on Garth.
by KellRawLive on Nov 18, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
except Floyd is gonna cost you
two of Tillman, Matusz, Arrieta, and Britton. At least.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
What about Tillman and another non-prospect?
I hate to say it, but Felix is the only one who comes to mind…
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 18, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
I can't imagine that Chicago is going to take that
if I had Floyd, I wouldn’t accept Tillman and Pie for him.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Yeaj, not much upgrade for them
Cash? Lots of cash?
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 18, 2010 12:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
truck full of franks?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
a truck full of trucks!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Until some of the young middleinfielders start advancing from fringe prospects to actual prospects...
The O’s just don’t have much to bargain with.
And the Melewski article was correct in pointing out that after Britton there just isn’t much there as of yet. Mayber Erbe and Spoone recover, maybe Hobgood reaches some level of his potential, etc.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
If Kenny truly wants to trade Floyd, I think he will come down.
Because I don’t see any team offering two high end prospects for Floyd. You typically have to be a superstar to get two high end pitchers.
Your mother.
Beyond the Boxscore article concerning DeLaRosa
Draw your own conclusions…
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
Trading young pitching
I thought that Steve M made a good case against trading any of the young pitchers. If we had 3 Brittons in AA and AAA, then we could afford to part with a pitcher or even two. Unfortunately, there is no obvious blue chipper behind Britton. Perhaps Hobgood will wean himself away from Dunkin Donuts and get in shape and Erbe will come back strong from surgery. Barring a breakout year from a couple of our “maybe” minor league pitchers, we don’t have enough pitching to spare.
the obvious counterpoint is
if we’re trading unestablished commodities for established commodities, then we’re ostensibly trading a couple facedown cards for a king or an ace (not a pitching ace, but a….oh this analogy sucks).
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'm exhausted
Got to work early so that I can leave early to get ready for a rehearsal dinner, pick up a friend from the train station, go to the rehearsal dinner in Annapolis, then go to the midnight Harry Potter, where I will probably fall asleep.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
you should download, and then listen to, the new Girl Talk
always wakes me up no matter what i’m doing.
I cannot download or listen to anything where I work
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Nazis
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
No phones or ipods allowed in the building
silly
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Pretty sure that has something to do with non-government issued electronics being used as explosive devices.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
They have their reasons
Which I know and understand even if they annoy me.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Can't have the secret cookie recipe escape the building
Y’all DO realize she works for Pillsbury, right?
Hey look, mister - we serve hard drinks in here for men who want to get drunk fast, and we don't need any characters around to give the joint "atmosphere".
ive fallen asleep in a movie theatre before
it is the worst feeling.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
You're going to a midnight showing of a movie?
Nerd.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Stephen Drew
Like anything else, maybe. Drew is a free agent after 2012, and given his representation, I doubt he would extend. So, what is 2 years of a quality SS worth? Especially when you consider 2011 isn’t going to matter that much.
I’d pass prolly. If a deal could be made something like Tillman for Starlin Castro, I would consider, without knowing much about Castro.
Librarians are hiding something
God Bless Andy for openly advocating for the balanced schedule....
….and for USA pointing out what we’re always saying here:
The Orioles have a .315 winning percentage (34-74) against the Yankees and Red Sox over the last three seasons and finished last in the AL East each time. The Minnesota Twins had virtually the same winning percentage (.317) against the two juggernauts, losing 28 of 41 games, but have won two of the last three AL Central titles.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
*USA today
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Some random dude I follow in Twitter just suggested
Chris Tillman, Felix Pie, Caleb Joseph, Josh Bell, prospects to D-Backs.
Mark Reynolds, Stephen Drew to Orioles.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Done.
Someone get AM on the phone STAT!
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Wait what does he mean by prospects?
Aren’t Tillman, Joseph, and Bell prospects? Does he mean like system filler?
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Depending on his answer
we might be able to get this done today!
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
ok
@FlavaDave10 What do you mean by prospects? Just filler?
@staceyMlong Yeah. Probably wouldn’t be enough to get both, but who knows? They are selling low on Justin Upton.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
orly?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I don't think they're selling low on Upton, though
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
yeah, that raised an eyebrow
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
In fact
I’m just reading Rosenthal’s article, and this is what he said:
An official from one interested club said the D-Backs want four top prospects for Upton. The Yankees, among other teams, are balking at that price.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Do we even have four top prospects?
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
we have two top prospects
Britton and Machado. That is all.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Yea but we also have guys like Matusz and Jones
who Arizona would take in a heartbeat if we offered them.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
true, true
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
we have OUR four top prospects
2 of them probably wouldn’t make most teams top 10 prospect lists though…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Do the Yankees?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
let's see
Montero, Betances, Baneulos, and Heathcott are all considered pretty good guys. Not sure if they’re all top 100 or top 50 guys though.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I guess we can't do my super trade then.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hell let's try to get upton too.
Jones, Tillman, Bell, Pie, Joseph, Vandenhurk, Hoes
for
Reynolds, Drew, and Upton.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hoes is untouchable
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Hoes are usually very touchable.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Hahahahah
Good one.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
And rec'd for truth
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I love the "prospects" throw in
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Didn't know you followed Jen Royale on Twitter...
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Seems like a lot for those guys
But I could get on board with this.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
it really isn't
it’s quantity, not quality.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Seems like a lot
SEEMS.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Rosenthal
#BlueJays showing strong interest in J. Upton. Were unspecified team mentioned previously. Update soon on FOXSports.com. #Diamondbacks #MLB
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Right. Because Vernon Wells & his contract can just be moved at a whim.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Move Vernon somewhere else
Justin Upton is the tits.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
((braces for more complaining))
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
RAJAI MOTHERFUCKING DAVIS
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I actually really, really hate Rajai Davis
I think it’s because a couple years ago the A’s announcers kept referring to him as an “RBI machine”. Rajai Davis: RBI machine. And he drove in a run against us and the announcers were all like “Well, what can you do when you’re an RBI machine?”
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
In case you were wondering.
The Orioles are not pursuing Upton now, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter).
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
well, I'M SURE JON FUCKING PAUL MOROSI KNOWS ALL ABOUT THE ORIOLES' PLANS
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
OT Here...
But Frank Deford is a whiny old coot.
It deserves a line-by-line, but I won’t do it here. He thinks trick plays in football (in youth/middle/high school) are bad. But thinks Jeter faking getting hit is ok.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions
In case anyone is wondering
Jen Royle is pulling for David Price to win the Cy Young.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
he seems like a good guy
I will root for him, too.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'm pulling for CC
He had more wins than Price did, yeah?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Price's TEAM had more wins than CC's TEAM
ergo he must have been a better staff ace, since he led his TEAM to a division pennant
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Pshhh
Like the Rays are even a team. How many WS rings do THEY have?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
makes it all the more impressive
how did the Yankees and all their wins lose the division to the baseball equivalent of those two old guys who didn’t want to do any work from the beginning of The Wire? I’ll tell you how: David Price.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Just a quick note
I was being completely snarky about CC winning the CY.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
no you weren't
typical Sabathia supporter. As soon as the shit gets real you start backtracking. Now all of a sudden you’re on the David Price Express Train straight to Cy Young City, baaaaaaaaaaaaaby
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Damn...my cover is blown.
Just to prove you wrong: CC FOR CY BAYBAYYYYYY
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
That would really roil the blogosphere.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I wish she'd write an entire blog post detailing why she thinks he should win
I enjoyed the day we tore apart her last post.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Here you go
http://www.camdenchat.com/2010/11/15/1814938/monday-bird-droppings#52022475
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
She's
very touchy today.
…But before I continue blogging throughout the offseason, let me just say this – I think you all know my personality by now, I can be feisty… but I’m fair. All I ask is that you are fair back. Lets not get into any cyber fights or say things that get us all fired up. One of the beauties of sports is that everyone has their own opinions — so lets respect them.
With that being said, Dan from Rockville — lets hug it out. I’m sorry if I upset you.
The other thing I think you all should have realized about me by now is I have to get the last word it. Haha. So… let me reiterate, I NEVER said the Orioles should trade Wieters. In fact, I said the Orioles wouldn’t if the opportunity arose. I did, and I’m sticking to it, say I’m not big on Wieters. And I’m entitled to my opinion. I like Matt and I hope he has a brilliant career. But prior to me arriving here all everyone kept telling me was, “oh wait until you see Matt Wieters. He’s an absolute stud.”
“One of the beauties of sports is that everyone has their own opinions.”
Wait, don’t you have to graduate third grade at least to be a blogger?
Oh dear, I’m starting a cyberfight.
Lets hug it out.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Some people don't seem to understand
that freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from criticism.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
FREEDOM ISN'T FREE
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
It's just a buck o' five
"I know the save rule, believe me. But it doesn't carry much weight with me. I like the win rule a little bit better." - Buck Showalter
I hate it when people rip me to shreds...
I think I will start my own blog. People don’t leave snarky comments on the internet, do they? I mean, anonymous posters will respect my opinions, no matter how assanine, because I am just pretty enough to get someone to pay me to write about a team I don’t follow.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
I can see why right now she wouldn't be SUPER high on Wieters
but when she got here, which was probably what, last season or the season prior to it? what would give her ANY reason to believe he wasn’t a complete beast?
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 18, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
It goes beyond that...
Wieters has only been at the MLB level for 1.5 years. He played well-ish in his first half a year and then came back for his first full season and improved his defensive WAR a ton while being inconsistent at the plate.
If she’s “not high” on Wieters now – what does she think of Jonesie and Tillman?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
that's what I said!
his defense improved vastly and a great hitter like him shouldn’t be struggling this much so I kind of chalked this season up as a moral victory. he didn’t put up gaudy stats but he was very, very solid behind the plate and managed the young pitching staff better than we probably expected him to. I still feel like there’s no reason to believe that he won’t be a legitimate hitter. 1.5 seasons just doesn’t give us enough evidence to work with.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 18, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh but wait! Jen Royle HAS written another story
http://www.masnsports.com/the_royle_rundown/2010/11/when-will-we-hear-signed-with-the-orioles.html
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
RAJAI MOTHERHUMPING DAVIS
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Awful.
Does she have to use the goddman caps button so much? Unreadable.
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 18, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Head asplode...
But adding a veteran catcher/first baseman is one of the major vacancies on the club along with shortstop and third base.
Wait, what? In listing the major “vacancies” (won’t even get into the choice of words), she listed "veteran catcher/first baseman ahead of shortstop and third base? I mean, Izzy isn’t good at all, but we need a shortstop more than a third baseman?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
We need a veteran catcher?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
So says Jen Royle.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Well, we're just not sold on Matt Wieters
Although we do hope he has a brilliant career.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Her response to commenter "Adam" is pretty solid too...
Yeah, you’re right. I did hear they were interested ….. In my blog I wrote the O’s aren’t in “serious discussions.” I want to hear those words. I want to hear, “are likely to land,” and “have made a significant offer,” or “have met with Beltre’s agent.” Not… “are interested.” It’s now reported the A’s have offered him five years $64M. Arg! Would love Beltre here.
So her biggest gripe is that media insiders aren’t reporting the Orioles as a likely destination. Ok, not much to say about that. That’s just dumb. Personally, I’d prefer to know that my GM is working his ass off without leaking little teasers to guys like Jon Heyman.
The word is “aggressive.” I need to see it. I want to see it
This is going to be snarky – so fucking sue me. You are a writer. Act like one. If you are trying to make a point with some emphasis, why not actually try to make it as emphatic as possible. Swap “need” and “want”, next time.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
That is completely a Yankee fan thing
and I think Jen brought it with her. Every year talk radio goes on and on about how the Yankees need a good backup catcher, and every year they dont make the WS I hear about how they were really lacking at C after Posada. They have some fixation on backup catchers. I guess when your starter gets hurt every 3rd day and you’ve experienced all time great Yankees like Leyritz it just has to be priority #1.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
That's True!
My girlfriend’s father is a big time Yankee fan and he attributes all of the Yankees’ success this year to Francisco Cervelli.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Um, where did all the comments go?
WTF?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
um...right above this post?
Oh and I just noticed the “please enjoy responsibly” thing at the bottom of the page even though there is no Absolut ad on this page.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
There is some countdown at the top of the screen
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I left and came back and lost like a ton of comments
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Can you reply to one, like where I said zk was so vain, all that stuff is gone.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yea...it works
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
well, it's gone for me now as well.
bizarro.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I sent an email to the SBN Tech people
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
::basking in the glory of actually being able to read the comments::
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
And now my z key isn't working!
I can’t take anymore!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
::basking in the glory of possessing a working z key::
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
you'll be screwed as soon as you refresh.
so you NEVER GET TO REFRESH.
::basking in the glory of being able to refresh whenever I want to::
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
ok now it is.
false alarm
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I've learned my lessson
I’ll never leave the open thread again.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
::basking in the glory of not having any false alarms::
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
you do entirely too much basking
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You would do the same if your comments showed up and your z key worked etc etc.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
I sees them.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
You're so vain, I bet you think this thread is about you, don't you? Don't you?
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
GET EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEM
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
If I can figure out how to convert that file to an AAC...
The “get em” at 2:50 of that rant is going to be the alert for new messages on my phone.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I also appreciate...
that LaVar stayed back for the majority of it – doing the hype man part of it was funny and I thought it made it all the more interesting, but for him to hold back during that to let Chad go off was pretty kind of him.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
if you convert that file into a mp3, let me know
I want to use as my ringtone for text messages.
Your mother.
ok
tell me if this works
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
It did...
and you are my hero.
+$1.29 internet monies
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
lolz
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
just as a heads up for whoever wants it
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
by danielreese05 on Nov 18, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
piece o' cake
MPEG streamclip will do it. On the Mac, anyway.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Sad PC owner...
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
i do not know the "get em" meme
’splain.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
from yesterday's link to Chad Dukes
LaVar Arrington’s periodic “get em” during Dukes’ rant cracks me up.
Your mother.
Oh, I heard that too.
I couldn’t understand what the hell LaVar was saying!
Now it all makes sense.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Peter Angelos!!!
YOU OWE US MONEEEYYYY!!!!
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 18, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Garret Atkins...
GO SUCK. I want REPARATIONS. BEAVER REPARATIONS.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Michael Gonzales...
YOU HAVE LIED TO US AND DISGRACED THIS CITY!! THE GREATEST CITY IN AMERICA!!! YOU KNEW YOUR ARM WAS HURT, YOU BASTARD!! TURN IN YOUR PARKING PASS!!!
by Fahrenheit 451 on Nov 18, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
There is a bunch of sig-line worthy...
material in that rant.
I NEED OUT OF THIS MARKET!
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
We not whores and you are not our pimps!
You know how passionate this fan base is? You know how much crap we have to put with? The Yankees own you. The Red Sox own you. And we have to deal with every time we go into CY there are 50% pink hatters there. And you sign a bunch of old ass players year after year and none of them pan out. And John Maine is winning 15 games for the Mets. And Aubrey Huff is hitting 26 HRs for the Giants. GO SCREW! What do I tell these O’s fans today?!
Your mother.
And Peter Angelos
Go ride the twister at Six Flags for the rest of your life. Go whip me up a burger at Johnny Rockets. Get the hell away from my baseball team. GET AWAY FROM IT!
Your mother.
Yeah, they seem to have disappeared since I refreshed the thread.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
ok so I'm not going insane
Good to know.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well, I can't guarantee *that*.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I went back in time to try to stop Jeffrey Maier from catching the ball.
I may have opened a rift in the space-time continuum. Sorry.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
.....that fucking esskay character.......
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well, did you stop him?
I hope you hit him in the head with a shovel. Multiple times.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
It's kind of complicated.
But I somehow ended up being a recurring character on Seinfeld.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
It's official, Felix got the Cy Young
Sorry twistedlogic and Jen Royle.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
With 3/4 of the first-place votes, too.
Good stuff, though Lee and Liriano should’ve gotten more votes.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
rather convincingly, too
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
What? WHAT?
but….but…..CC’s wins…………..
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Did you see ESPN's comment on this?
More proof that ESPN is flippin’ stupid. “Despite just 13 wins…………..”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Here's another....
…. hack paid to write a column:
No, my problem is why has it taken Showalter this long to piece together a staff? And since he still needs someone to coach third base, one can see he’s still got work to do.
I’m just concerned that if it’s taken Showalter and CEO Andy MacPhail this much time to round out the field staff, what effect, if any, this will have on locating the power bat or the corner infielder or the experienced starting pitcher or the shortstop the Orioles so desperately need?
…I realize it’s only late November, but come on guys. Let’s get something significant done quickly and efficiently, whether it’s swinging a trade or landing a proven veteran via the free-agent route, and not right before spring training begins.
Because surely, negotiations with John Russell are keeping Andy from talking to Adrian Beltre’s people.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I like this part
Hey, at least "The Crow" landed another job within the organization to which he’s been so, so loyal.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Why the hell are so many people in a tizzy over such a weak ass free agent class?
Chillax, folks.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Probably due to the belief that teams MUST sign FAs to be any good.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Or overpay for a weak ass FA just because he is the top in the class
when that team could just wait a year and get somebody better.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
There is a segment of all fan bases...
that makes the rest of us look bad. For every smart comment made here by someone urging patience and rational thought when looking at improving this club, there is a dolt like Royale, a schmuck like, well…Schmuck, the comments over at Roch’s blog, Nestor, etc. complaining that we didn’t trade for RAJAI MOTHERFUCKING DAVIS.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
free agent class
I’m not really sure that this free agent class is really all that weak. As teams get smarter about locking up their players, it would follow that players are going to free agency later and later. I mean, last year had, what…Holliday, Lackey and Bay as the big guys? Now that’s a shittastic class. Sure next year might be epic at first base, but I think that’s more the exception than the rule.
Librarians are hiding something
Does anyone know how to un-hide people on Facebook?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I've run into this problem
and it seems a bitty buggy to me. I went into the Edit Options (all the way at the bottom of the Feed) and you can choose to ‘Always Display’ (or something similar) anyone you type in there.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
'Show More' is the box. Just type their name into that and they will back in the feed.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
OT
new Danny MacAskill video is absurd:
I really don’t even care about this sort of thing, but he’s amazing.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I've got a new submission for the crazy professional blog post of the day.
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions
Um...yea.
That guy/girl needs to be eating soft food in a soft room because thats CRAZY TALK
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions
oh man I was JUST linking to this
WTF?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
There is a report that Jeter turned down
3/63M from the Yankees. No one else is going to offer him 21M a year. It just isn’t going to happen. So, they’ll go back and forth for a month, but he’ll end up back in NY for close to that much.
Even still, the thought of him coming here for 15M a year is laughable… and on top of that, he isn’t worth it. All the intangibles in the world won’t make him any more than a $10M player by the time a 4 year contract is up, unless he starts spending an inordinate amount of time with Alex Rodriguez’ cousin. And as tough as it is to give him a compliment, at least Derek Jeter isn’t that type of guy.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
He is such a fool
Does he honestly think he’s worth 21M???? Although it serves the Yankees right for inflating salaries so much that these guys actually expect that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
here's the link
http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/mlb/news/story?id=5819502&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines
I like the “Where’s he gonna go, Cincinatti?” line
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
yeah, Jeets' leverage isnt much here
definitely not enough for him to turn down that much cash.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
My officemates think that the Yankees can't afford to sign Crawford, Lee, AND Jeter
Thoughts?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
if they want their payroll to stay where it is, they really can't
but come on. It’s the MFY. They can afford to pay ME enough to root for them. And that’s a number beyond all human understanding.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I guess the question is:
Do the Yankees want all of them? They have the money do buy whatever they want, but it doesn’t mean Cashman is sitting there all excited to blow money on Jeter.
I can’t speak for how Yankees fans would feel if he walked, but I’ll tell you if a guy like Cal turned down comparable money I wouldn’t blame the Orioles if he took an obscene deal in Bumfuckistan.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 18, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Completely agree
Nobody…NOBODY is going to offer him any more than that. I don’t honestly think anyone is going to offer him anything even close to that.
However, Jeter does have the whole “he’s the face of the franchise and his been here forever” thing going for him. I don’t doubt that the Yankees really want to see him in pinstripes next year, so they might overpay to make sure of that. Might be a different story if he gets in the way of signing Lee and Crawford though.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
It isn't the money that is the issue.
He wants 4+ years.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
What he's worth doesn't matter
What he can get does. I would bet he gets the fourth year he’s looking for, or at least a club option with a healthy buy out.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Nov 18, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
He'd be the most storied Mentor in the history of mentors!
Jeter also would bring five World Series titles, command respect in the locker room and show a young Orioles team how to play the game
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
reply fail....
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
I like it!
So, do we take those World Championships away from the Yankees and award them to the Orioles, or do the Orioles simply just get a plus five?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
He's a Type A FA so I'd imagine you have to subtract them from the Yankers.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I like this part
His batting average fell from .334 to .270 and his home run total dropped by eight to just 10. But he drove in 67 runs and won a Gold Glove.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
and the ticket sales! They wouldn't be able to print tickets fast enough!
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
They'd need the most storied ticket printer in history.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
The Jeter article kind of reminded me
this weekend I saw daveh for a few moments so that he could pick up the Matt Wieters and Nick Markakis bobbleheads I’ve been holding for him for months. We were wondering what bobbleheads they might offer next year, and we decided, obviously, on Carl Crawford and Cliff Lee, and my Yankee loving BFF (who was trying not to openly laugh at us, I think), says “Maybe they’ll sign Jeter and Mariano also,” And then it was Dave’s turn to try not to be mean, and he was like, “Well…I’d take Rivera.”
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
King Felix gets the Cy Young
so there is some sanity left in the world.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
"smoke weed, eat yogurt"
Cy voting
Because of the heightened interest in this award, the list of voters is below, grouped by which pitcher they listed first on their ballot:
Hernandez: Ken Rosenthal, Fox; Amalie Benjamin, Boston Globe; Michael Silverman, Boston Herald; Erik Boland, Newsday; Joe Smith, St. Petersburg Times; Mark Gonzales, Chicago Tribune; Lynn Henning, Detroit News; John Lowe, Detroit Free Press; Sam Mellinger, Kansas City Star; Joe Posnanski, SI.com; Joe Christensen, Minneapolis Star Tribune; John Shipley, St. Paul Pioneer Press; Hirokazu Higuchi, Chunichi Shimbun (LA); Tim Brown, Yahoo Sports; Jorge Ortiz, USA Today; Ray Ratto, At Large (SF/Oakland); Kirby Arnold, Everett Herald; Larry Stone, Seattle Times; Richard Durrett, At Large (Dallas-Fort Worth); Anthony Andro, Fort Worth Star Telegram; Morgan Campbell, Toronto Star.
Price: Mel Antonen, USA Today; Tony Fabrizio, Tampa Tribune; Phil Rogers, Chicago Tribune; Chris Assenheimer. Elyria (OH) Chronicle.
Sabathia: George King, New York Post; Bob Elliott, Toronto Sun; Sheldon Ocker, Akron Beacon Journal.
No balto sun writers? Or are the Orioles no longer a major league team?
Librarians are hiding something
the awards rotate
bmore only has like 3 guys in the bbwaa, right? they can’t vote on everything.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I believe Sun writers are prohibited from participating in postseason awards voting.
Which includes HOF voting. So I don’t think they vote for anything, unless that situation has changed.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
probably because of conflict of interest
For example, it’s probably not a coincidence that the Tampa Tribune gave Price a first place vote. I’m not saying there’s vote buying going on but hometown writers like to vote for their players whenever possible to ensure friendly access.
Your mother.
yeah
I heard it’s like, if someone is honest about it and votes CC fifth maybe CC is all, “dude, c’mon” and doesn’t give that guy interviews and so the NY guy’s gonna vote CC first just so he can do his job and the award is tainted.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
That Pittsburgh guy's NL ROY ballot is the counterpoint here.
That’s a level of blatant and shameless homerism that I don’t think anybody can defend.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
That was really whacked
I actually have liked that guys work too. The entire dustup could’ve been avoided if he went Posey, Heyward, one of the Pirates guys.
Librarians are hiding something
I really don't know why.
I mean, there is a stated reason that supposedly has something to do with journalistic integrity, but I don’t accept the reasoning.
When they had the HOF voting the year that Cal was going in, Peter Schmuck made mention of this. I e-mailed him and asked about why he wasn’t allowed to vote. I commented that it was a shame that none of the Baltimore media would be allowed to vote for Cal. He wrote back to me and said he supposed that was part of their thinking (though my understanding is the policy has been in place for years before that) but he found it disappointing, because he believed that all in all the integrity of the BBWAA has been sufficiently demonstrated.
I also feel like that is the case. Obviously, we will have disagreements with particular writers – if you look at the breakdown quoted above, there’s somebody who voted Felix as 5th for the Cy. Now, whatever that person’s reason was, I’m pretty sure it was stupid. But I get the sense that if that was an NY writer who was trying to boost CC’s chances, one way or another that would be internally, and probably informally, policed.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it's a mystery
I think what gets me is teh 28 votes. It’s fine, I guess, to not have each city get to have 2 votes, but I’m not sure why there wasn’t at least 1 baltimore vote. If they want to split the other 14 votes amongst national and international voters with some cities get represented twice, fine. But I’m really not sure why not one Baltimore voter was included. In the above voting, there are 2 Tampa voters than I can easily see.
Librarians are hiding something
If we (Baltimore) don't have the Sun guys, I'm not sure we have anybody.
Maybe Roch Kubatko, since he would have been in the BBWAA while he was with The Sun, and I know they are opening their ranks somewhat to people who are bloggers for known outlets (like ESPN.com’s Rob Neyer or Keith Law) rather than just typical beat writers. Reluctantly moving their way, kicking and screaming, into the 21st century on some fronts.
But I could see where being a part of MASN would exclude Roch, since MASN is owned by the Orioles.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Pressbox, Balto Sun or Stacey
Should rotate having the vote. But you know, representation would be nice. We ain’t DC after all.
Librarians are hiding something
I went and looked because I was curious
And also because this is the internet and you can find nearly anything.
http://bbwaa.com/constitution/
G. The Association shall also admit full-time members of internet sites under the following procedure:
1. The National Board of Directors each year prior to the national meeting at the World Series shall obtain a list of internet sites issued credentials by Major League Baseball for that year’s World Series. Employees of MLB.com shall not be eligible.
2. Active members attending the Annual Meeting at the World Series shall vote to accept or amend the MLB list of credentialed sites for the purposes of Association membership. A simple majority is needed to accept a site for membership.
3. The Association shall then accept membership applications from full-time employees of those sites whose primary job responsibility is to write about baseball.
4. Applicants who believe they qualify must submit appropriate fees by December 1 to the National Secretary-Treasurer.
5. The National Board of Directors will review all applicants between December 1and the National Meeting at the Winter Meetings to determine whether those applicants meet Association requirements.
6. The National Board of Directors will submit its findings and recommendations at the Winter Meetings National Meeting for a final vote by active members in attendance. A simple majority is required for an applicant’s admission.
7. Approved applicants may then choose to become national members or apply for membership to specific chapters, where further fees might apply.
Alas, I don’t think Camden Chat, or any fan blog, is going to qualify by this standard in the near future.
Press Box doesn’t count under current rules because farther up it specifies that it must be a daily newspaper. I think PB is only weekly, right?
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
You don't want me voting
I don’t even trust myself, which is why I gave CC’s votes for the SBNation.com awards to duck and Andrew.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
and I was sad that my MVP Garret Atkins votes didn't make an impact on the final tally
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I didn't get to vote?
sob
I don’t really care, actually. I wouldn’t trust myself to vote either.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 18, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Totally forgot there was a game tonite
Glad I at least made a pick earlier in the week.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
I don't know if anybody watches boxing here
but is there any credibility to this?
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
Pacquiao would beat Mayweather to hell and back.
Hell he just sent Margarito to the hospital from breaking his face. Pacquiao was giving up 5 inches and over 15 pounds in that fight too. He is not only the best in the sport right now, but before it’s all said and done people may be calling him the greatest fighter ever. Mayweather has been ducking Pacquiao for the longest time and unfortunately I don’t think the fight will ever happen. Mayweather knows that he would be outclassed.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Nov 18, 2010 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
that's what I figured
the tagline “Pacquiao can’t beat a black fighter” really kind of annoyed me. i figure he would just beat the hell out of Mayweather, it doesn’t seem like anyone’s come that close to beating him so far.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Nov 19, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
No.
What Manny has done is insane. Going from Light Flyweight (105 lbs.) to Light Middleweight (154 lbs.) ((he actually fought Margarito weighing 148)) and dominating everyone who was put up against him is incredible. He’s fought the top contenders over 9 different weight classes. If anyone out there is going to give him problems then they have had their opportunity to step up. No one has as of yet. Not even Floyd.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 18, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Must be playing w/ empty nets in Philly tonight
An 8-7 hockey game???
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
Ridonkulous dude.
I really wish I had bet the over on the 5.5 goal mark.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 18, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
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