Thursday Bird Droppings
by duck on Nov 4, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintFirst thing! Don't forget to vote for us in the Mobbies! Now that Orioles Hangout, er, Tony's Take has been added, we don't have a shot in hell to win, but put up a good effort anyway, all right? I figure if we finish in second place behind them, we still won the best blog competition since Orioles Hangout isn't a blog. Vote every day! -Stacey
And don't forget to vote for Testudo Times as best Terps blog and Baltimore Beatdown as best Ravens blog to help our local SBN brethren. -duck
Question of the Day: As was mentioned in yesterday's Bird Droppings (and slightly down below, too), our favorite surly Canadian had his option declined by the Mariner's yesterday, and is once again a free agent, along with a couple other rehab project starting pitchers (Brandon Webb, Justin Duchscherer). Last year the Orioles were said to be interested in one of these project pitchers but ultimately did not acquire any of them - and that was probably a good move as it would have been money wasted. But are you interested in a rehab pitcher project this offseason? -Andrew
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So, Erik Bedard is available. I'm just sayin'.
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Two Orioles' prospects had a good day, as Ryan Adams went 2-for-4 with 1 run scored and 1 walk and 1 RBI and catcher Caleb Joseph went 3-for-3 win 1 run scored, a walk, a double and 3 RBI.
I guess I have a talent for languages, sir. I hear a language once I pick it right up. I don't even know how. They found out about it in the Open Thread.
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Re: Question of the day
I’m not. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it’s rare that these rehab pitchers just stop being injury-prone. I think it’s been made pretty clear on CC that our farm system is not top tier, so we can’t just expect that if one of the rehab pitchers gets injured we will have a good replacement waiting on the wings. Anyone agree?
Where are my shoelaces?
I look at it the other way
I see these guys as the insurance. If one of our starters gets injured or is ineffective, we have a guy rehabbing to take his spot, and possibly be an upgrade. I’m not as high on any of these guys as I was last year, but if the right deal came along (say, a minor league one) I wouldn’t be against it. I wouldn’t break the bank for any of these guys though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah,
I think it might be worth it, just to have some extra depth so we don’t have to rush Britton. That assumes one of those guys is able to pitch by late April, though — I don’t know when they’re projected to be ready.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I look at them as cheap lottery cards (if they're cheap)
if you can sign Bedard to a minor league deal that seems like a no-brainer to me. If he sucks or never gets healthy who cares? If he miraculously returns to form you got yourself an ace for chump change. I think teams like the O’s who have money to spend should make these kinds of creative moves any time they can. That being said, I really won’t be excited if they sign Bedard because I’m not expecting him to be healthy.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
er lottery tickets rather than lottery cards
I’m not sure what a lottery card is…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
er lottery tickets rather than lottery cards
I’m not sure what a lottery card is…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'm not sure what a double post is either....
But agreed. As I said in yesterday’s BDs, a minor league deal for Bedard would be awesome.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
No more, no less
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Its time to FIND A NEW SCREEN
Or drink powerthirst and have lots of babies. FOUR HUNDRED BABIES.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know why, but that's a rec
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Powerthirst brings out the best in all of us
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
don't have the hard evidence
but my sense too is that these guys just continue to tease with flashes of quality between DL trips. We knew the surly Canadian could never make all his starts in a season when we dealt him – that’s why we knew the deal was a steal. Am I interested in a rehab project? No.
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on Nov 4, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
on the other hand
BUH
DARD
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
by Andrew_G on Nov 4, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is an excellent point
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Nov 4, 2010 8:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
On the other hand,
Cliff Lee
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
More than that even, it has to do with the message your sending
Do we want to tell a budding star like Matusz that we don’t care what our record is year after year? In other words, sending out a bunch of scrubs and injury prone guys who are, unfortunately, bound to get injured (hence the title) is not a recipe for good team morale. It’s a matter of direction—will Matusz and Wieters really believe in this team when we sign players that have little potential to stay healthy?
Where are my shoelaces?
are they going to believe in this team more
if we sign more guys like Kevin Millwood?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Those guys, though, if healthy
are good. It’s a way of building depth. I don’t think it sends a bad message at all.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Ron Roenicke
is his own uncle? Now THAT is interesting…
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
Heh
I had put something in there about Gary’s son who pitches for the Blue Jays, but I couldn’t remember his first name, so I deleted it, but I guess I screwed the whole thing up. I should really proofread.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You could have just called him the Spawn of Gary Roenicke
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 4, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey guys, check it out!
Camden Chat is back in first place in the Mobbies, and is the sixth best blog overall.
Keep voting!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
And yet, OH is in second overall?
Magnet, man – how DO they work?
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
It's two separate votes
There is a best overall vote and a best vote for each category. It’s confusing and kinda silly.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
They can have best overall
I just want Best Orioles BLOG
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
this seems like a reasonable compromise to me
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
As far as i'm concerned they are a great blog
As a magnet for the crazies I wouldnt want here. Keep on keepin on OH.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 4, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They're not a blog
That’s my main complaint.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
true
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 4, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
also, they're not really good, either.
there are five posts in the last three months, including this one:
So I see Glynn Davis was named the organization’s fastest runner by Baseball America. Sounds about right since I heard he was faster than Xavier Avery and Kyle Hudson at the O’s mini camp in September.
BTW, when I saw him take BP at Aberdeen at the end of the year he was driving the ball pretty good including hitting one or two on top of the bullpen roof in left field. Basically he’s as fast as Hudson but with some pop. Now we have to see what kind of discipline he has against pro pitching.
He could be very high on the list next year or not on it at all. Either way he’s an exciting guy to get into the system.
Wow. That’s some insightful analysis.
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Blankets -
How do they work?!
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by NewYorkOriole on Nov 4, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I'm calling shenanagans on C.J. Wilson
some str8edgeracer he is – he’s stealing our ideas!
Wilson has an interest in screen writing and talked about writing a movie that centers around the Rangers 2010 season.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Thief!
Str8edgeracer can expect a cease and desist from Esskay’s and my attorney, kba.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Nov 4, 2010 8:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
although
it would be a nice prequel type deal centering on how Cliff Lee’s character came to be on the Orioles, where he has his pivotal scene in which he convinces Nolan Reimold to stop worrying about his babymamadrama and then Reimold hits the first ever 6-run home run.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Didn't SHJ already do that?
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Nov 4, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
From the MLB.com article
Worth a Shot?: Atkins struggled mightily in Baltimore, but is still only 31 years old.
That this is even remotely considered an option for any MLB team reflects quite poorly on the writer.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
and I'm only 25 in two months, I have my best years of ball ahead of me!
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Hell, I'm only 31 years old too.
And I could probably hit MLB pitching as well as the beav.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
rumor has it...
you’re also in the best shape of your life.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
The fence post is in midseason form.....
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
damn...
hear he’s tearing it up in winter ball, but has maybe gotten a little too close to hugo chavez for my own personal tastes.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Bet its CCA treated too
Even that fence post can’t pass the MLB Substance Abuse policies
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Well....Britt tweets that the fence post might be willing to take a minor league deal
You’re still an unknown.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
This reminds me
I would once again to confirm my availability to play 3rd base for the upcoming season.
Who wouldn’t want a third baseman with a perfect fielding percentage and and never swings at a ball outside of the strike zone? Andy, I’m waiting for your call.
This would sign cheaper, I bet
Perfect fielding % and no swings at pitches outside the zone, too.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
if the ball hits the post, that's an error on the post
that’ll lower the fielding percentage drastically…like 100%.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
You're assuming KBA has the speed to get out of the way
I have my doubts.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
So light a fire under it...
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Being more serious about the QotD
I think if you look back at last winter, yes, none of the rehabbing pitchers offered any of the value they signed for (Bedard didn’t pitch to even one batter, for example), but the Orioles ended up spending a non-trivial amount of money on their own band of projects and misfits that didn’t work out at all – and had a ceiling much, much lower than Erik Bedard.
Maybe a better way of looking at this is in hindsight: would you have rather had Bedard or Millwood last year for similar money? One was a big question to give you much of anything – but if he did they could be spectacular, one was much more likely to give you a lot of mediocre innings but not much more. Or did they fill totally different roles that were mutually exclusive?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Well, going into last season the O's knew they needed someone who was able, not necessarily capable, of pitching.
Bergy was questionable due to his injuries, and Arrieta was not ready coming out of spring training. So the rotation had a void which needed to be filled by any warm body, hence Millwood.
This season shapes up differently, as the rotation could be considered ‘set’ already with Guts, Matusz, Bergy, Till, & Arrieta. Even with this seemingly set rotation it would be wise, in my opinion, to explore some of the potential upside in either Bedard or Webb. I would love to see Webb brought in for the right price. He was one of the best sinker ball pitchers in the game and his knowledge and experience could certainly teach Bergy and / or Britton some things, possibly making them more effective in the future.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
So you like Webb because he could mentor them?
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Nov 4, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh. I guess you could put it that way.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
let's forget the mentoring stuff
which is, frankly, baseless. Does it make sense to take out 5 million dollars and say there is an 80% chance we’re just throwing this money away but a 10% chance we’ll hit the lotto jackpot? The Orioles have a surplus, but it’ll disappear quickly with those types of deals when they still need three infielders at least.
But I’m still saying yes it does. Without the jackpot, we’re still looking at probably a sub-.500 season (probably), and if you’re looking at a sub-.500 season, I think you are behooved to play the lottery as much as possible.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
I guess the question is,
if we don’t spend ~$5 million (or however much) on a rehab project, what would we do with the money instead?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I'm not sure its entirely baseless
I’d point to Halladay teaching Hamels the cutter as evidence that there can be some positive effect. Though i wouldn’t really rely on that very much as a reason for signing someone.
Right. I wouldn't argue to sign Webb for any 'mentoring'-type effect.
I would sign him because he was an great pitcher prior to the injury, and it could be worthwhile to see if he has retained some, if not all, of that previous ability.
This is what the A’s did with Ben Sheets last year. That move didn’t work out quite as they would have liked since they weren’t able to trade him prior to him reinjuring himself. But it looked to be a shrewd gamble early on when he was showing signs of his previous ability.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
of today's pitchers...
seems like sheets, harden, bedard and bonderman are this type. guys that have a track record or rep for getting hurt, but have shown some good results when healthy. i think of those guys that actually pitched last year, results were not so hot.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, baseless is probably harsh
but, and I said it last year, if the Orioles wanted someone to teach their young pitchers something (how to act? how to pitch? how to deal with losing? I’m not really sure what Millwood was supposed to mentor the young’uns on, exactly), then hire a pitching coach to teach the pitchers how to throw a cutter. There’s no way a mentor is worth even an extra one million dollars.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Barry Zito became a pretty expensive pitching coach in the playoffs, didn't he?
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
he's a pretty expensive fifth starter, too
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
I can't say "for similar money."
Because $9M for Kevin Millwood was beyond ridiculous, and $9M for Bedard would have been ridiculous as well. But I would have rather taken a chance on Bedard. Millwood served a purpose last year, I suppose, but even knowing the Bedard didn’t pitch at all, I still think it would have been worth the risk.
I am still pro going after a high risk guy this offseason provided the money isn’t taken from someone else that would really make a big impact on the team. But I’d rather throw money at those kind of guys every year than continue to waste it on old or completely washed up guys like Millwood and Atkins and Tejada, or on guys who, even if they are effective, wouldn’t have as much impact, like Gonzalez.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'm not going to lie
if it weren’t Erik Bedard, I’d undoubtedly feel a lot different.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
by Andrew_G on Nov 4, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm trying to think off the top of my head...
w/o consulting the oracle of b-r, but chris carpenter is the extreme outlier here, no?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Nov 4, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe a better way of looking at this is in hindsight: would you have rather had Bedard or Millwood last year for similar money?
I don’t quite understand the question. With hindsight, you obviously take Millwood because he actually played. Bedard was the DL all season and only made one rehab start before re-injuring his shoulder.
Your mother.
yeah, that sounds stupid when I say it like that
my question rephrased is, do you want the Orioles to go for a big-risk, big-reward pitcher or another guy who is unlikely to get hurt but unlikely to be impressive at all (i.e. Kevin Millwood), and that’s saying if you could have either for the same money.
Or, do the Orioles not need more starting pitching depth?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
The QotD all depends on the money.
Would I want Erik Bedard for a $1 Million base/incentives per number of starts or IP kinda deal? Sure.
Would I want him for even $5 Million a year with his history? Fuck no.
It’s always good to have pitching options locked up – and if we learned one thing from this season, the word “set” referring to roster and rotation spots should never be used around youngsters. But a reclamation project is what it is. A roll of the dice – and one we should never bet too high on.
The QotD all depends on roster spot
If Bedard would sign a minor league deal, then sure. If you could make it for a $2M guarenteed with a couple club options, then I would be all for it. I wouldn’t want to waste a roster spot on him though.
Librarians are hiding something
man, i am bored
i need some actual hot stove news to feed on
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Here:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/11/yu-darvish-plans-to-play-in-mlb-in-2012.html#disqus_thread
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
by PBR me ASAP! on Nov 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
Slow day today. Must be the rain.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Nov 4, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Did you watch the Huff video I posted on the front page?
It’s not hot stove, but I enjoyed it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
with aubrey huff, im not convinced its going to be SFW
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
I watched it at work. There's no cursing
Although he does stick his hand down his pants.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Can you vote as many times as you want for CC on the mobbies with one log in?
I’ve noticed that the site allows me to keep voting for CC more than once.
Your mother.
The rules say that all votes after the first one each day will be thrown out
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yeah I'd imagine that's fine.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Also, my friend tried to vote this morning
And it told her it hadn’t been a full 24 hours yet. So that’s bizarre that it keeps letting you vote.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
i've been waiting 24 hours to log on with a different account
but i’m almost out of accounts unless I set up a myspace page.
Your mother.
ok, i'm going to set up a page using Tony's information.
Gender: Male
Interests: World domination.
Your mother.
Mood: Annoyed >:(((((
Status: I can’t understand why Camden Chat is currently leading the Best Orioles Blog award, but we’re beating them in the for Best Overall Blog!!! The Sun isn’t being very respectful.
ahahah
I liked how he said that maybe someone is messing with the votes in the Orioles category. Why is everything a giant conspiracy?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Because he's not winning
Thus, unfair, evil plots must be afoot.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
There I go being unhealthy again...
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Well, you know Camden Chat is a mover and shaker in the Orioles world.
I mean, come on. You got Rob Dibble fired. Clearly you’ve got the juice to get the Sun to rig a poll.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 4, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah I forgot about that guy
good times.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
wait, you guys aren't employed by the sun?
they told me we were all getting the same paycheck and I couldn’t be given a raise when I asked last year because there are too many of us and it wouldn’t be fair!
WHAT THE HELL BALTIMORE SUN?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Me...
I’m a warehouse employee and Angelos apologist.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 4, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha yeah you are.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
We got Rob Dibble fired and we got Terry Crowley canned
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Occupation: Center of Orioles Universe
Favorite Movies: Patton, George Steinbrenner: The Man, The Myth, the Legend, and Ghost.
Your mother.
Why are we giving this guys this much attention?
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
But if you were to use different sign-in methods at work and at home, which have different IP addresses
one wonders if this might register mutliple votes per day.
Hmm…..
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I told y'all
It may not be Bob, but Kendel Ehrlich will be back on the air this week.
For those wondering the fate of Bob and Kendel Ehrlich on radio station WBAL following the defeat Tuesday of the GOP candidate for governor, here’s a short-term, partial answer.
Kendel Ehrlich will be on the air Friday and Saturday, according to news director Mark Miller.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I didn't realize Kendel ever went off the air.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 4, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
She's definately full...
of hot air.
Christ that whole WBAL team has completely glossed over Bob getting waxed in favor of talking about how important it is Andy Harris beat Kratovil. They’ve been acting like this thing was in the bag for them all season.
"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." - H.L. Mencken
by TerroristFistJab on Nov 4, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
MD-01
In retrospect, it probably was in the bag. The Kratovil staff knew they were doomed, probably a month ago. They all figured a 4-point loss. NO ONE saw a 13-point smacking in the offing. No one.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
So much for Eastern Shore solidarity, eh?
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 4, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. He was taken out in the primary a few years ago by Andy Harris
via the trendy RINO (Republican In Name Only) accusation.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
That sucks
I just looked it up and the guy who beat Harris in 2008 is a blue dog. I’m not really a fan of blue dogs. Still…is Andy Harris pretty bad?
Where are my shoelaces?
In my opinion, as someone who was born and raised on the Eastern Shore, (although I do live in Delaware currently)
Yes. The people of the Eastern Shore don’t have a true representative voice in Andy Harris.
But’s he’s going to Washington, so let’s see what legislation he focuses on and let that speak for itself.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
What did they talk about?
I’m so glad I don’t live in Baltimore or its suburbs.
Where are my shoelaces?
Well...yes
Sort of. I don’t like big cities anyway, so not Baltimore specifically. I hate DC. I hate Philadelphia. I hate Baltimore. I don’t hate New York but I hate its sports teams and its media outlets (although NYT is pretty good). So, you get the picture.
Where are my shoelaces?
Oh, I get you
my move from medium-sized city (Rochester) to big city-suburbs (Arlington) has been…rocky.
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
I'd rather live near Baltimore than DC
As much as I hate cities, I’d take Baltimore in a heartbeat.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
because then we could be BFF?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
My wife would be jealous
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I could be BFF with her, too
obvi.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You guys could watch QVC together for shoe sales!
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
You can't buy shoes off the TV, duck
How will you know how they feel? Silly boy.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Sure it can
You find a site that allows free returns and buy a half size bigger and smaller than you think you need, and then return the two pairs you don’t want.
i have bought two different pairs of shoes off the internet
successfully. good stuff. and i returned one pair no problem.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I've bought shoes on the internet before
But I’ll only buy a brand I already have and therefore know the general feel and sizing. And that’s only if it’s a pair that is super cute. The hassle of trying to return them outweighs the benefit otherwise.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
There's a DSW right near my house
So it’s counterproductive to buy shoes on the internet and have to wait for them when I have a shoe store right near my house.
Where are my shoelaces?
Then go AFTER work!
It’s better than waiting four days for shoes. See, if it’s a really cute pair, the anticipation is irritating. WHEN THE FUCK WILL MY AMAZING SHOES COME IN THE MAIL?! See, it’s annoying. I want shoes right away.
Where are my shoelaces?
What is it with all the kiddos crusing now?
I fear we’ve set a bad example for our youth.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I said fuck all the time when I was 16.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
But where you typing it on teh interwebz?
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I said fuck all the time when I was 13.
I guess not much has changed.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 4, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Not me
My mom still doesn’t believe that people actually say Fuck. Well, she believes it I guess, but she thinks people who do are not nice people.
She’s really not as crazy as she sounds. Honest.
my mom is the same
Although since she started reading CC on occasion I guess maybe she’s learning.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well, I never said it around my mom!
In fact, the only time I ever have said fuck around my mom was one time when I was hopped up on NyQuil, and I didn’t say it directed at her, just was referencing something that happened.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 4, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
DSW is my favorite. I have to go to Columbia, though, so it’s not that convenient. Plus sometimes I need to buy shoes at 3 a.m.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Because sometimes, when you're awake at 3 a.m.
And you see some cute shoes online, you need them.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
That makes sense...I guess.
This is a very girly conversation. I like it!
Still, I don’t want to wait for shoes. If I see cute shoes, I want them. And I want them now.
Where are my shoelaces?
Waiting sucks, but it's awesome coming home to packages.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
My only problem there is UPS/FedEx can't get into my building
and theres no front desk. Sometimes its a nightmare trying to actually get packages.
Yeah that sucks
Actually at my old house they wouldn’t leave packages on the step because of the location (they’d just get stolen) so it was a giant hassle if no one was home when it got delivered. But where I live now they’ll leave it on the step or between the door and the screen door so I always get my packages. It’s fab.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well that's true
My dad always gets these packages with plants from Texas, New Mexico, Arizona….any state with cactus really. They’re almost never for me. It’s awesome to get packages, but big packages? They’re more fun and I never get them!
Where are my shoelaces?
At least you're having your girly conversation here,
and not behind home plate.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I'll have my girly conversation wherever I like
thank you.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Joooke.
Just adding to the Dibble content of the thread.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Oh no, have i been actively participating in a girly conversation this whole time?
What will my parents think?
same way I reacted to samuel's rehiring?
surprise but not shock?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
"I have to go to Columbia, though, so it’s not that convenient."
Why don’t you say hi to me???
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 4, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
You OBVIOUSLY have not hung out with my wife
She will buy almost ANYTHING off QVC. She hasn’t gone to a clothing store in more than a decade.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Hm
Maybe we couldn’t be BFF, then. Shame.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
It's just as well we're separated by miles
otherwise, we’d just be separated by differing interests.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Yeah look at my post above
I’d much rather live in a small town than a city.
Where are my shoelaces?
Maybe we can trade...
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
That's right, and you live next to the wrong one...
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Oh...yeah.
I want to go to school somewhere outside the East Coast….FAR FAR FAR AWAY.
Where are my shoelaces?
If you can avoid the sports fans
Boston is a pretty cool place, actually. lotttttta young folks. also it snows more up there.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
Yeah...that's a problem
But Boston has an array of very good schools to look at.
Where are my shoelaces?
Boston is a pretty cool place, actually.
vomit.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
now you're talkin.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I've been looking at Occidental as a possible option
Or one of the Claremont schools.
Where are my shoelaces?
OT - sports that none of you care about except dave
I am exhausted today! Who schedules a college football game on a Wednesday night? Oh that’s right – the Big East… cause we suck and ESPN treats us like the red-headed step-child that we are. And my team lost by one point, after USF recovered three of their own fumbles, including one in the endzone for the game winning score. At least now I have more ammunition for my theory that Tampa has the worst fans in the world. If, at any time, the two teams stopped playing football, and met at the 50 yardline for tea and crumpets, I don’t think a single USF fan would have noticed. What a bunch of apathetic morons. You can’t sell out when your baseball team clinches a playoff birth, your 5-2 football teams games are all blacked out, and no one even knows that you have a first place hockey team.
Sorry, I needed to vent… and I am at work, so there’s no Coors Light cans around.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
Man, don't get me started...
so much potential this year down the drain. Between RU and the Devils, it’s almost worse than baseball season. Thankfully there’s the NFL.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
How do you like the Orioles and no other MD/DC sports teams?
I’m not attacking you. I just want to know the backstory.
Where are my shoelaces?
He hated the Yankees
And he went on a trip to OPACY when he was 9 or 10 and fell in love.
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 4, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
something like that. I know i’ve told this story a hundred times, so sorry everyone, but the short of it is my step dad worked in Dundalk alot and we’d get to go on little vacations to Bmore while he was working there sometimes. This was right around the time Camden was opening and Cal was building towards the streak and I fell in love with the team.
and I do like other MD teams (the Ravens are one of my favorite teams in the NFL), but if NJ has a team, I root for them. We have no baseball team, which left me open to loving the O’s.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
So why weren't you a Yankees fan?
Like you are a Giants fan? Is it because Giants Stadium is in NJ?
By the way, you not being a Yankees fan is GREAT.
Where are my shoelaces?
Yes, to the second answer.
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 4, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
The Giants play in NJ. The logo doesn’t change that. I lived in East Rutherford. The Giants play in East Rutherford. I’ve never lived in NY. Therefor, the Giants can not possibly be a NY team.
Also, before I even liked sports, I picked the Mets just because I had an inate hatred for the Yankees. I don’t even know why, I just always have and always will.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah that makes sense
It’s healthy to have an innate hatred of the Yankees. They deserve to be hated.
Where are my shoelaces?
the yankees dont deserve shit
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Nov 4, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Good news, guys!
Frank Mata has cleared waivers and has been outrighted to Norfolk.
I know you were all waiting for that news.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I am shocked and appalled
that you didn’t use a “Mata” pun
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
I think you have me confused with Roch Kubatko
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
you're the one with the muscles, right?
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
It's all that Matusz.
"Breathe if you hate Duke." - Brenda Frese
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Nov 4, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
show me BRANDON WEBB
why the hell not? if we took a season Millwood we can take a season of Webb
Straight cash homey
JoePos' latest blog hits on the 1970's O's
http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/2010/11/weakest-world-series-winners-since-1946.html#more
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
And y'all wonder why I don't treat him like a deity.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
I do wonder
What exactly was wrong with that?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
well let me rephrase
I don’t think ANYONE should deify him. But I don’t get why you don’t like him. I never will. Just another obstacle in our BFF-ness.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I think he's Rick Reilly with better PR
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
You're insane
But we’ve been down this road before so we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I misunderstood the headline
After reading, I see he has the ‘70 O’s as the 5th BEST WS winner. At first, I thought he had them 5th worst, and my opinion was dropping even further.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
The article's title is misleading.
He begins by discussing the 5 strongest teams to win the series, with the ‘70 O’s coming in 5th.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
1970 Os
Quite a team. The Os of the Frank Robinson era spoiled me. As the article points out, the team had wonderful players besides Frank/Brooks/Jim. Paul Blair was an amazing center fielder, who might be in the HOF if he had never been beaned. Mark Belanger was an artist at short, although not so much at the plate. With MVP Boog Powell in the lineup, opposing pitchers did not have the luxury of pitching around our good hitters, there were too many of them.
At that time, the big rivalry in the AL was between the Os and the Yanks. The Sox, with their immense fan base, were a sleeping giant that had not yet awoken. The Os also had a great owner in Jerry Hoffberger. He let Cashen and Dalton run the show. I thought that this was the way it would always be. Sigh.
Sad news on Sparky Anderson
Sparky Anderson, the white-haired Hall of Fame manager who directed Cincinnati’s Big Red Machine to back-to-back World Series championships and won another one in Detroit, died Thursday. He was 76.
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Knew this was coming when he went into hospice care the other day.
RIP, Sparky.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
I figured he had a few more weeks/months
Hospice doesn’t usually mean instant death, after all…
"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword
Well, true.
I just meant that I knew it wasn’t far off. 2 days is quite sudden.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
That's a sucky way to go too
My grandma has full-on dementia—can’t even remember her own name, babbles incoherently…it’s an awful way to end your life. It’s slow and it’s depressing for everyone around you.
Where are my shoelaces?
My grandmother was like this before she died as well
basically the last eight years of her life, she didn’t know where she was. And eventually couldn’t feed herself. Something for me to look forward to, I guess. Although, to be honest, sometimes I spend a few minutes analyzing the fact that I will one day die and it scares the shit out of me, so fading into the twilight of dementia might not be so bad if I lose the fear of dying.
I have no idea what having dementia is like BUT
It seems to me that slowly losing coherence and awareness of the world around you has to be somewhat frustrating, even if you don’t understand why you’re frustrated. Trying to remember anything and coming up short…seems like a pretty shitty way to go.
Where are my shoelaces?
I think you lose part of your consciousness anyway - the thing that makes you human.
So on that level, it’s not bad if it’s happening to you.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Nov 4, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Still...even if I wouldn't be able to understand what's gradually killing me
Everyone around me would, and, being coherent now, I wouldn’t want to put my family and friends through that. Obviously, that’s wishful thinking because it’s not under my control, but I still don’t want it.
Where are my shoelaces?
Ehh
different for everybody, but it’s often not like a light switch. At the beginning people definitely know it’s slipping away. Once it’s already gone it’s certainly not that bad on the actual person – at that point it’s just horrible for everybody around them.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Yeah...my grandma always looked pained and frustrated at first when my dad tried to help her remember things
It’s been a very troubling few years.
Where are my shoelaces?
I think it can be absolutely terrifying in addition to frustrating
I have very strong memories of seeing the total panic in my grandfather’s eyes when in a moment of clarity he realized that he had absolutely no idea what was going on and he was losing his mind. Scary stuff.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Oh crap
My top free agent hopeful (in the “actually possible” department) is already off the board. Crap!
No offense, but....ENOUGH WITH THE FIELDER/GONZALEZ TRADE PROPOSALS.
Well, there's always next year....
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." ~ The Dude
it seems as though New England thinks that KG's cancer patient remarks were A-ok
I mean, come on, trash talk is trash talk right? gimme a break
Straight cash homey
Yea...what an asshole
Complete insult to people who actually have/had cancer too. If you’re going to trash talk….trash talk. Don’t find the stupidest fucking thing you can think of and say it.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
yeah he crossed the biggest fucking line of them all
there’s very few things that just aren’t ok to joke about; 9/11, the Holocaust, and cancer.
Straight cash homey
by danielreese05 on Nov 4, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
People do all of those anyway
And it’s just not OK. So many people died as a result of those things that you can’t joke about it. It’s more than offensive, it’s inhumane.
Where are my shoelaces?
ok sue me
so I didn’t want to think of all of the things that people shouldn’t joke about
Straight cash homey
by danielreese05 on Nov 4, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it's alright
I understood your point. There are boundaries and KG clearly ignored them.
Where are my shoelaces?
Fair enough
I think he was in the wrong, that’s all. My mom had breast cancer so it’s a pretty sensitive issue in my family.
Where are my shoelaces?
hard to say whether he crossed the line or not if you weren't there to hear what he actually said
it could also be argued (and is being argued, actually) that villanueva is a publicity hound for tweeting it.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Yes, that's very true
But he IS actually a cancer patient—was it a joke? Maybe. Was it a playful jibe gone wrong? Extremely possible as well. Still, you don’t jibe about diseases as debilitating as cancer—it’s just wrong.
Where are my shoelaces?
a couple of things
1. Check your facts. Villaneuva is not a cancer patient. He has an autoimmune disorder that hs nothing to do with cancer.
2. KG is saying he called Villanueva “a cancer to his team.” While I find that doubtful, the truth is, I wasn’t there, I didn’t hear the quote. So I can’t say he crossed the line. Unless you were there and heard him say differently, I don’t think you can say he crossed a line either.
If KG says, “You run so slow, you should be in a wheelchair” on the court, is it insulting to handicapped people? To elderly people? Probably. But then again, I think most trash talk is going to be offensive to one group or another. Just like most comedy is.
The world doesn’t deal in absolutes.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
and by the way,
my wife and I joke about cancer ALL. THE. TIME.
Humor can be a great medecine.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I don't mind that you joke about cancer in the privacy of your own home or anywhere else for that matter
But a public figure should not, in my opinion, joke about anything that serious or touchy.
Where are my shoelaces?
Calling someone a cancer patient is more dumb than offensive
Given that it’s kind of a binary situation – either you are a cancer patient or you aren’t – that has absolutely no business being a pejorative anyway.
I think most/all of us have known someone who has gone through having cancer. Many probably did not survive. My grandfather passed away back in July and one of the things that was wrong with him was cancer.
To paraphrase Jerry Seinfeld, I’m not offended as a relative of a cancer victim. I’m offended as a comedian.
America was a farting country. - Ragtime, E.L. Doctorow
by Eat More Esskay on Nov 4, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
but you do acknowledge...
..that calling someone “a cancer to his team” is different than calling someone a cancer patient, right?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
again, I wasn't there. who knows?
he maintains he only did the former.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
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