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The 40 Greatest Orioles of All-Time - No. 36 - Nick Markakis

A few weeks ago I broached the subject of updating Camden Chat's 40 Greatest Orioles list, originally created by SC. The candidates up for discussion were Nick Markakis, Jeremy Guthrie, Miguel Tejada, Melvin Mora, and Brian Roberts. We had a good discussion on the possible additions of Markakis and Guthrie and re-ranking of Tejada, Mora, and Roberts. While most agreed that Guthrie doesn't belong on the list, just as many think that Nick already deserves a place.

Because I've opted not to mess with SC's order at all, adding anyone to the list would bump Gregg Olson from the top 40. That was tough for me because The Otter has such a special place in my heart. But really, did he mean more to the Orioles than Nick Markakis has since his arrival in 2006? While he was a part of the every exciting 1989 team, a team that was very special to 10 year old Stacey, Nick has eclipsed him.

So where to place Nick, exactly? After much mulling, I've decided that Nick belongs at #36, between B.J. Surhoff and Tippy Martinez. He'll surely move up the ranks the longer that he's with the Orioles, but for now, I'm happy with him there. See my write up of Nick below the jump.

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Drafted by the Orioles in the first round (7th overall) of the 2003 amateur draft, Nick Markakis has been one of the few home grown Orioles to become a consistently good everyday player since I was born in 1979. He just completed his fifth full season with the Orioles and is still relatively young. He'll be celebrating his 27th birthday later this month and he already ranks quite high in a number of offensive categories. Check it:

Total All-Time O's Rank
Games 786 26th
Hits 891 16th
Doubles 206 11th
Walks 332 22nd
Home Runs 89 22nd
Runs 448 15th
Runs Batted In 442 17th
Batting Average* .298 4th
On-Base Percentage* .368 10th
Slugging Percentage* .469 9th

*minimum 2000 plate appearances

Not too shabby for a 27 year old. And as the 2nd longest tenured Oriole behind Brian Roberts, he's only going to move up the ranks. If he manages to stay an Oriole for his entire career who knows where his name will end up on the list.

But Nick isn't just an above-average bat and a solid outfielder. Nick Markakis came to the Orioles in a time when the fanbase was desperate for someone to cling to (he made his major league debut as a 9th inning defensive replacement on Opening Day 2006 and received a raucous ovation). Because of that it's possible he's been overrated in Baltimore, but there is no taking away from what he's done for this team.

In addition to his numbers, Nick has made it seem cool to want to be a Baltimore Oriole. He is a young, talented baseball player who chooses to make his year round home in Maryland. After his third season with the Orioles he signed a relatively team friendly extension that will keep him an Oriole through at least 2014. He won't wow you with his personality (even if he does wear Heelys), but having him here has become comfortable and right. We don't know who will play shortstop or first base for the Orioles next year. We don't know if Felix Pie will ever become an everyday talent. But every day during the season we can look out into right field and see Nick Markakis and know that, even if it's only at one position, we have nothing to worry about.

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…just lose Rick Dempsey and slip Nick in at like #35 or thereabouts? I hate to think of a list where Rick Dempsey gets to stay on for acting like a jagoff while on the team and playing Slip-N-Slide at Memorial Stadium but Gregg Olson’s nasty ass curveball gets jettisoned. Yes, I know all too well Dempsey won a World Series MVP and that he brought certain “intangibles” along with his lifetime .233/.319/.347 line and 87 OPS+. But I think we can all agree his years of milking his clown act both as an Orioles coach and broadcaster have tapped that well dry.

Lose Rick.
Add Nick.

by Jonny Pops on Nov 5, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I had this exact thought.

Dump RIck and bring the Otter back.

Mora should get dropped a few notches as well….

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Nov 5, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott put a lot of work into his rankings

If I were going to redo the entire thing I would make some changes probably, but I’m merely trying to keep his original list up to date.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 5, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh c'mon.

There is no “up to date”. It’s a completely subjective ranking of players.

But if you are trying in vain to follow an “up to date” logic. I think it’s self evident that Rick Dempsey has completely worn out his welcome with many an Oriole fan at this point – which was not as true as when Scott put the list together. Therefore there’s really no reason for him to be on the list, when you take into account that he was a pretty shitty player who’d be bouncing back and forth between journeyman backup and AAA if he played in the 21st Century.

Olson on the other hand was a legit good player. We’re talking a 123 career ERA+. We’re talking 2 seasons with an ERA below 2.00. It would be a travesty of baseball injustice for him to get kicked off the list while Rick Dempsey’s still doing what he’s always doing – hanging around….like Matthew McConaughey in Dazed & Confused.

by Jonny Pops on Nov 6, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

a travesty of baseball injustice?

It’s a list. On a website.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 6, 2010 5:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

...which you're writing posts about changing.

If it matters so little, or you don’t want to change Scott’s work, don’t do anything.

If you’re going to edit it, do it right.

by Jonny Pops on Nov 6, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe I am doing it right

And I happen to think that Rick Dempsey belongs on the list.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 6, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

wait

Guthrie and no Mora? I demand an explanation.

Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
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by danielreese05 on Nov 5, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

and of course

I catch my mistake only as it’s too late.

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by danielreese05 on Nov 5, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we not taking "the oriole way" into account here?

I just can’t see how melmo and tejada are both ahead of Nick. Even though his numbers are there yet, there should be an extra factor for attitude and reliability. Greatest orioles of all time should be people you want as the face of your franchise— I just can’t put tejada or melmo there myself.

Two more things I’d like to add. If you’re going to put juicers on here, they should be a the tail end. Also, surhoff cried when he left Baltimore— the other tools were happy to go.

by GeoffreyA on Nov 5, 2010 10:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Melvin Mora was an Oriole for ten years

and he never, ever wanted to leave. I’m proud to recognize him as an Oriole – he’ll be in the O’s hall of fame one day.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 5, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did great take on that meaning?

And how do you know Surhoff wasn’t juicing?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Nov 8, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

you should learn to read a little more carefully

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Nov 5, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, let's go with this

In fact, i’ll bet $500 bucks right now that Milt Pappas lands at #14

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Nov 6, 2010 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Take the bet BW!!!!!

There’s now WAY that old guy is that high!

"Walk not down that road, I cannot tell you where it goes. Ask me no more questions - some things you're not meant to know." - The Sword

by duck on Nov 6, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

My bad.

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by Zachary Beard on Nov 6, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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