Friday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Dec 10, 2010 8:01 AM EST
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PrintThe winter meetings are over, which means today will probably be quiet, which is sad. So much excitement this week!
The J.J. Hardy Trade: Minnesota’s Side | FanGraphs Baseball
FanGraphs thinks that MInnesota just made itself a weaker team.
The J. J. Hardy Trade: Baltimore’s Side | FanGraphs Baseball
"A nice move by the Orioles that could use a few more bright spots." I assume he means the Orioles could use a few more bright spots, not the move.
Drunk Jays Fans: Winter Meetings: So... That's That?
Not that I pity Jays fans, but these guys are a hoot. -duck
Orioles got better, but it still may not be enough - baltimoresun.com
Tell us something we don't know, Zrebiec.
Orioles Insider: J.J. Hardy reacts to trade, being an Oriole
Some good quotes from our new shortstop. I love that he's our new shortstop. You know how sometimes, when you get a new boyfriend or husband or wife or something, you find yourself finding reasons to say boyfriend or wife more than usual? That's how I feel about J.J. Hardy, our new shortstop. He's our shortstop.
Willie Randolph excited about position with Orioles | MyCentralJersey.com
Willie wants the Orioles have a tough attitude.
Who taught you how to use this stuff? The open thread alright! I learned it by watching the open thread.
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MacPhail's re-alignment plan:
“We’re going to start a mid-Atlantic states division,’’ Baltimore Orioles president Andy MacPhail said.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I really wish he wouldn't even make jokes like that
you know Andrew Friedman’s reaction to it was?
“It’s always been nearly impossible, and it’s probably getting closer to impossible. But it’s doable.”
That’s the attitude I wish we got from our GM, instead of this “You don’t understand, this is impossible unless we can get some realignment!” stuff. As if the Orioles would have been a playoff contender anywhere else.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
yeah that bugs me to death
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I don't mind the jokes,
but yeah, I know what you mean.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
It’s always been nearly impossible, and it’s probably getting closer to impossible. But it’s doable."
The odds are not zero, and are probably getting closer to zero. However, since it is not zero there is technically a chance. That’s not heartening.
Even if all the front offices were of equal capability, we’d still have a situation where two have significantly more money. The Yankees and Red Sox have talented front offices. So fans of other teams can hope their team’s front office gets it act together and can compete during a couple year window of opportunity every decade if/when the very rich teams slip a bit.
This is the system the owners want. Andy works for a guy who is, as far as we know, content with the imbalance as long as revenues look good. He ought to shut up and play the game or speak out against it. The is no use complaining.
Give the Yankees and Red Sox the budget the Rays and pirates have
and we’ll see how talented they are
It's not the division, it's the unbalanced schedule.
Not that Selig gives a shit. That whole thing was to get more MFY-PHN games to begin with.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
it's neither of those things
its that the Orioles are really bad at the bases ball
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
But it hurts in the WC chase
We play NYY/TB/BOS/TOR 19 times each, while MIN plays DET/CWS/KC/CLE 19 times each. We’re horrible, and NYY and BOS plays us 19 times each, but KC and CLE are just as bad, and MIN plays them 19 times each.
It actually hurts a team like BOS, too. They got hurt last year, and their bottom feeder games were against us, who were more than a few games over .500 the last 6 weeks of the year, and an 85-win 4th place team.
I want to beat NY and beat BOS, but why should we have to do it 3 times more often than MIN or ANA must to make the playoffs?
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
oh it's not fair, i'm not arguing that it's fair
but it’s not the reason why we’ve been bad for so long. not by a mile.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
It certainly doesn't make the job any easier.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Yeah
You have to pass the Jays and the Rays before you start complaining about the impossibility of passing the Yank Sox.
by BirdFanInPhilly on Dec 10, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Rays are gonna fall off this year
and who knows what the Jays will do, they stink when they look decent and overachieve when they look pathetic.
I agree
It’s not out of the question that the Orioles finish above both (although improbable), but they have to do it first.
by BirdFanInPhilly on Dec 10, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
it's a tiny part of the reason...
….in that we have sometimes tried to attract FA talent, and they want no part of being in a division that plays those guys so often.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
True
But it hasn’t stopped the Jays from being respectable, if not competitive for most of the last decade (with the exception of that one year).
by BirdFanInPhilly on Dec 10, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Right, respectable and competitive yet no playoff appearances...
While in any other division they’d have been beast.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 10, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Why isn't it fair?
Because we are the ones that have to play the Yankees and Red Sox more? All if the major sports are set up this way. In the NHL teams play their divisional opponents more than anyone else. Same with the NBA. In the NFL every team plays their divisional opponents twice and that makes up like 40% of the schedule.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 10, 2010 11:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That's true
But in baseball they play 10X as many games as in football. When there are less games than teams you have to make some decisions. And in football the teams you play that aren’t in your division change every year. It’s totally different.
I’d personally rather eliminate interleague than the unbalanced schedule but that’s just me.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
+1
Interleague sucks so damn bad. Ruins what little interest there is to the All-Star game and even undermines (at least a little) the World Series, to me.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 10, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I'm probably the only one who wants to majorly expand interleague
If i could set the schedule, I’d move one team from the NL Central to the AL West and have:
-1 series against each team from the other league (3 games x 15 teams = 45 games)
-2 series against each team from the other intraleague divisions (6 × 10 = 60 games)
-4 series against each team from your division (12 games x 4 teams= 48 games)
153 games
I like this idea
although I’d find a way to add in an extra 9 games to keep it at 162 for statistical purposes.
I do too
but people will completely flip out if the number of games are changed, with records going with it. Althought, going into the post-steroid era, maybe that;s a good thing….wipe the slate clean.
+1
The whole AL east thing is so overblown. The Orioles have been terrible due to their own fault. Sure, they definitely have a smaller margin for error and likely smaller windows of potentially being competitive, but the whole “wah, wah, Yankees and Red Sox” is just excuse making.
Librarians are hiding something
And
If you want to win it all you have to go through the best eventually anyway…. thats the ultimate goal.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I have to disagree
as you yourself said, the margin for error is smaller as is the window for being competitive. If that isn’t the definition of unfair, I don’t know what is. It is a travesty that the majority of baseball fans in this country don’t get to see their team be competitive on a level playing field with other teams simply because MLB refuses to fix its extremely flawed system.
It’s like owning a Mom and Pop shop and having WalMart moving in next door and a Target on the other side and telling the Mom and Pop owners to figure out a way to compete with those businesses. Even if they stay in business, it is purely impossible to ever compete.
This speaks much more to the salary cap disparity... not scheduling.
That I have a HUGE HUGE issue with..
But if they are gonna be heinously stacked year in and year out anyway, we screwed in the long run no matter who we’re playing.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problem really with the scheduling
though I like kba’s idea…..the lack of a salary cap in baseball is ridiculous….and as long as it sticks around baseball will get worse and worse, losing more ground to the NFL by the year, eventually ending in teams (Pirates, Royals, possibly even our O’s) facing contraction.
diminishing returns...
…this is the problem with the Yankees model. To put it another way, the Orioles payroll could be 60% of what the Yankees is and we have seen that teams with 60% of their divisions can compete (the A’s are the obvious example).
The fact that in baseball you get to control a player for his first six full seasons, which usually covers a player’s peak years, should serve as a salary cap.
I’m all for some revenue sharing (split TV money, not gate receipts). But while the Yankees hit on CC, they also missed on Burnett. How much better are CC and Burnett compared to Lester and Buchholz?
The Yankees started their dynasty not on the backs of big free agents, but rather developing Jeter, Rivera, Pettitte, Posada and Bernie Williams, filled in with a couple free agents (Key, Wells). There is no reason that the Orioles can’t do this, other than poor drafting and development.
I’m not suggesting it’s entirely fair because it’s not, but I don’t really care that much about that. For a 10 year period, sure the Yankees revenue streams will allow them to be competive for the majority of that time, but the Orioles could be competitive for half that time, as opposed to none of that time.
Librarians are hiding something
Money should not determine whether a team is competitive or not
the way they spend it, on the other hand, should. As should drafting and trades. The Yankees “missed” on Burnett, who would be our #1 guy and is their possible 4. No team should be able to compete year in and year out because they buy the market while other teams have to do everything exactly right just to have a chance at competing for a few years of a decade.
Do you think Rays fans (all 200 of them) are happy about competing for 2-3 years
and now likely disappearing for another decade? I wouldn’t be. Even having a current 13 year losing streak, I wouldn’t want that for the O’s. That is why the NFL is killing the MLB and it’s only getting worse.
I'd take 2 to 3 years of competitiveness over 0
And the Orioles should be able to have twice the payroll of Rays. It sucks for them, but then again, their fans don’t go to see them either…
Librarians are hiding something
They never had a chance to build a fanbase
an expansion team was thrown on them in the toughest division in all of sports and, fittingly, they had a decade of terrible baseball. Not easy to attract people to a new team like that.
It helps that they...
built an awful indoor stadium in Florida, had a horrible logo design, and thought that going after old names was the way to gain interest.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
Do you know how much it rains in Florida?
and as far as going after old names…at least they were names…their team was a minor league team playing in the majors for a long time.
Right...
because the Marlins don’t play in Florida either.
Expansion teams that are serious about winning don’t sign Wade Boggs, Greg Vaughn, Jose Canseco, and Vinny Castilla.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not saying they made all the right moves
all I’m saying is the deck was stacked heavily against them
I saw 127 Hours last night
It was so good. I was worried about that one part, you know, and it was pretty brutal. But I think I got myself so hyped up for it that it didn’t seem so bad.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 10, 2010 9:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Drunk Jays
Pretty hillarious…and knowledgable. Good reading on other teams blogs yesterday, esp. Twinkie Town. Boo, fucking, hoo. Best part was the mod chirping about the cursing. You could just just hear Norm Son-of-a-Gunderson saying “Hey! Let’s watch the language in here, now!”
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
Let them lose 13 straight seasons and try to climb Mt. Yanksox year in and year out
and they’ll be putting sailors to shame in no time.
I love Drunk Jays Fans
Ghostrunner On First is another good Jays blog. I’ll read any blog about other teams if they’re well written. It’s a much better way to learn about the teams than by going to the team site or something.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 10, 2010 9:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Or newspaper writers...
who think AVG and RBI tell you what you need to know about a hitter.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Speaking of well written blogs
This from a certain someone’s WM wrap-up:
The O’s solved their third base problem by acquiring Mark Reynolds via trade from the Diamondbacks. Although he’s a well-known victim of the strikeout, his defense is what caught the O’s eyes.
Defense. Right. Once they find out about his 30+ HRs, they’re really going to hit the ceiling!! What can I say? I rubberneck in traffic, too…
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
What? We DIDN'T get him for his glove?
I thought it was because he didn’t ground into double plays, myself.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Who wrote that?
MacPhail and Buck were playing up his defense after the trade, but yeah, I doubt that’s what caught their eye.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Actually, it caught their eye(s)...plural.
And do I really need to say the same of the “writer”?
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
*name
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
ah, got it
I think
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yeah, you do
http://www.masnsports.com/the_royle_rundown/2010/12/orioleswinter-meetings-wrap-up.html
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
I'll give her props for this....
COMMENTER: Sign Adam LaRoche and trade for Prince Fielder..(then lists potential lineup)
____________________________
JEN: Not gonna happen, buddy. You’ll deplete you’re entire system for a one year rental for Fielder. Not a smart move.
There is hope.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
i mean...
they mentioned his defense along w/ his other assets (i.e. he hits for power can take a walk). i believe their comments suggested that his defense was not too bad and the scouts seem to think it has been improving and can improve further.
i’m extrapolating too much?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
"Not too bad" is a correct assessment of his glove, imo
It’s not subtracting runs from his 80-100 RBIs (in 2010, anyway). Works for me if he can maintain it.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
is there hope....
….. that she’ll learn the difference between “your” and “you’re”?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Baby steps, zk, baby steps...
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Here's a good link for you
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Good article
What is Ron Gardenhire’s obsession with speed, though?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
He should listen to Earl: "Team speed, for ******'s sake..."
No, I’m not going to post it from work.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
.pdf hosting
anybody have a suggestion on the best way to share a .pdf ? i’ve scanned and saved the whole thing but have been sittin on the file for over a year now. i posted a few pics of some old o’s posters i found during a massive attic project and i found another gem, but i want people to be able to view and possibly save it.
I'm a big fan of dropbox.com
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
To wit...
it has private and public options for each account, so you can keep some stuff public for sharing while everything else is available only to you. Really easy to use, too. And free. Did I mention free?
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Was going to be my recommendation as well
2GB of free storage, you can share files publicly via a URL. I think there’s some sort of bandwidth limit, but unless you’re sharing to a major site and expecting millions of views you’ll be fine.
So, I've 3-starred all 10 levels of Angry Birds Seasons Greedings so far
What have YOu done with YOUR week????
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Something more fun than angry birds
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I three starred all the levels in the first game
I think I erased all of it when I updated my phone, though. Oh well, I know I did it!
Can't get 1-6 on AB: Halloween to save my life
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
cut the rope updated!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Gotta get that one....
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Seriously - it's the tits...
any time an update lists: “more cute OM-NOM expressions” as one of the highlights, you know it’s golden.
The newer levels are nigh impossible. Very much fun.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
and theres a free holiday pack, too
but so far incredibly easy
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
So let me get this straight
The Royals just signed Jeff Francoeur and they are also reportedly close to signing Melky Cabrera?
It could be worse, O’s fans. It could definitely be worse.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'd take Francoeur/Melky over Atkins/Millwood anyday
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
that was last year
Do you know what the Royals did last year? They signed Brian Anderson, Scott Podsednik, and Rick Ankiel.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I don't know if you can count this as positive
but there are teams that are just as/more hopeless than the O’s….in weaker divisions! That’s gotta say something, doesn’t it?
It was just a throw away comment
Did I say it was a POSITIVE? I said it could be worse.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
just remove CC from your bookmarks, then
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'm not even sure i have it bookmarked
every time i open firefox my fingers reflexively type c-a-m and i’m here.
that's what I like to hear :)
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
When you open Chrome
there’s a launcher that displays your eight most frequently-visited websites. CamdenChat is like #4 but I open Chrome, click the CC tile and boom.
Im addicted to Chrome
I cringe when I have to use Internet Explorer now…
Chrome baby
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously...
It cant get any better.
Its so simple, easy on the eyes, and quick. And incognito mode puts it over the top. haha
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Not that you would EVER have any need for incognito mode, right?
:)
Chrome rules.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
You know
In case you don’t like…. cookies….
I give up, its for porn.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Its almost like how they try and advertise KY Jelly… there’s just no getting around it.
LOL
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Louie anyone?
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Your father is dead!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
A....different....dog?
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Chrome is the best web browser I've ever used
I use Firefox at work, at least it’s not IE.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I was using the most recent Firefox beta
and was honestly shocked how quickly it was loading things. Some pages were completely loaded in half the time on the exact same computer.
a few months ago, firefox did an update..
when I ran it on my computer, my keyboard became disabled. When I would switch to another program, my keyboard worked fine. fuck firefox
We're #4! We're #4!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
At my house
I have Camden Chat, Baseball Reference, Hoot Suite, Hulu, Gmail, FanGraphs, and Netflix on the bookmark toolbar.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I can't say what they are
But one of yours sounds alot like one of mine.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
Hooter-Reference?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
you mean the thing that Safari has had for two years now?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
technically,
Chrome turns 2 tomorrow. And Chrome’s “most visited sites” feature is just over a year old, whereas it appeared in Safari in June of 2008.
I love Chrome, but there’s no denying that many of the features on it (most visited sites, private browsing) appeared long beforehand on Safari.
That Safari isn’t well supported on PCs is not a surprise to me.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I wasn't trying to insult
reading back on it, it sounds different than what I intended. I was actually trying to agree with you
yeah, ok, I see that
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
But, but, but....
he had 199 hits in 2009! That’s almost 200!
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
oh, duck...
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
There was talk that the Phillies felt like they could fix his swing and wanted to sign him
but he backed out because of lack of playing time. Enjoy Kansas City instead of potentially winning a World Series, Jeff.
Question
What’s the date for players who are arb eligible to have their salaries decided for next year? By my count we have Luke, Guts, AJ, old younger JJ, and Felix up for arb.
And of the pre-arb players like Bergy and Wieters and such, when will their salaries be decided?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Arbitration dates:
Figures exchanged 18 January, hearings 1-21 February.
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/important_dates.jsp
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
thank you!
I wish it was earlier.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Think we'll see any long-term deals?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Nah
I think if AJ can step up his game in 2011 he might see an extension after 2011. Luke and Guts both have two more seasons before they are FA at which time Luke will be 34 and Guts 33. JJ is a bullpen arm and Felix hasn’t proven he can get good for an entire season. And no reason to do anything with the guys who have no say in their salary.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yeah, I don't think so, either.
AJ basically repeated 2009 (and forgot how to walk, too), and they didn’t extend him then, so I can’t see them bothering now. And the rest make even less sense.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
FanGraphs names the O's top ten prospects
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/top-10-prospects-the-baltimore-orioles/
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I wish they gave a little more context to their peak WAR projections
Since they project everyone in a pretty similar range
Man, no love for Joe Mahoney
Something the scouts just don’t like about that guy.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
well, he'll be 24 by the spring and he's only had a 1/2 season of AA,
he has little to no defensive value, and he doesn’t walk very often. He has good but not great power. Add that together with some high BABIP numbers and you have a prospect that’s not especially awesome.
Don’t get me wrong, he had a great season last year, but there is nothing about him other than his slash line that makes you say wow.
I don't have a problem with that
But Givens instead of the org’s minor league player of the year (I know, like scouts give a crap about that)? 23 games? Talk about sample size.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's a good list
Interesting the debate on Mychal Givens. It will be interesting to see where Sickels ranks everyone.
Librarians are hiding something
wow, he's pretty aggressive with L.J. Hoes, well ahead of any other list I've seen.
I like it tho, he gets on-base and has some gap power.
Also, do you guys remember like 2 years ago how we had no SS prospects? All of the sudden we have too 3-4 legit prospects that should all be playing A ball next year.
i was curious about that...
someone’s obviously going to have to change positions.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
or...
be traded for blocked corner infielders.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
don't forget Narron
I would think he would be top 25. Although along with givens they are both expected to move to 3rd.
Am I the only one who read that & thought...
“who the **** is Jonathan Schoop?”
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Flat Breezy to the Braves...
per MLBTR
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 11:42 AM EST reply actions
I thought that happened like 2 days ago?
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
No..
But everyone’s favorite ex-oriole Garret Atkins is receiving offers from Japanese teams.. And another first baseman on the “possibilities” list, Ryan Garko is going to play in Korea…
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 10, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
meh
The two-year deal that the Orioles offered Kevin Gregg is worth between $8-10MM, according to Jeff Zrebiec of the Baltimore Sun. Gregg continues to negotiate with the Orioles, who still believe they have a chance at the former Blue Jays closer.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 12:22 PM EST reply actions
MLBTR pisses me off
Even though the Orioles agreed to terms with Koji Uehara, they could offer Gregg the closer’s job. President of baseball operations Andy MacPhail did not commit to Uehara as the team’s closer this week.
Puke. Andy doesn’t commit to Koji being the closer b/c (all together) Buck doesn’t have a “closer rule.” So they assume that means this dude might get the job? I really want him nowhere near Baltimore next year.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Depends
How many 3 run leads do we expect to hand him? Plus, I’d expect Gonzo to be sharing the role.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
yes...
he had been doing it for 2-3 years in japan, so he’s familiar w/ the mindset and it’s clearly less taxing from a physical standpoint. that being said, showalter’s demonstrated a flexible approach to bullpen management that ought to spread things around a bit.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
That's Japan
and that’s 2-3 years younger. I hope he stays healthy all year, but I don’t know if I want the game in his hands when he’s melting on a “smoldering” 82 degree day
I don't think Andy should be making any commitments like that.
Andy signs the players and Buck decides how to use them.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
this.
what a stupid quote. like Andy is going to say, “yup, he’s our closer.”
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
zomg
miley cyrus smokes weeeeeeeeeeeeeed
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 12:36 PM EST reply actions
technically the sky is not blue
and Garrett Atkins is bad at Major League Baseball…not baseball in general…..
oh I give up, he’s terrible
Actually, it was salvia, which is apparently legal in California.
http://www.businessinsider.com/miley-cyrus-smoking-a-bong-caught-on-tape-2010-12
Funny nonetheless.
Where are my shoelaces?
It's just a little weed or salvia
she’s not on crack. I wouldn’t call it a downfall, she’s nowhere near Lohanville
It has been a downfall.
Disney channel stars are supposed to be immaculate. She hasn’t been that in a lot of parents of young children minds.
Where are my shoelaces?
She's also no longer a Disney star
or at least that’s my impression. Kids grow up and move on, she’s allowed to be whoever she wants to be and do whatever she wants to do. People are too quick to condemn young celebrities like her, contributing to their so called downfall.
I don't care what she does.
As long as I don’t have to hear her screeching on the radio ever again.
Where are my shoelaces?
I can't disagree with that
but that’s why they put a knob on there to change the channel, thankfully.
by YeahDonnie on Dec 10, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Miley Cyrus had a downfall?
Dang, I’m behind the times.
What is there to hate about Miley Cyrus? Other than the fact that I’ve heard that song “Party in the USA” twice and I can never get it out of my head. In fact, just right now, people bringing up Miley Cyrus has it going again. Thanks a lot.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 10, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Just like her pops.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
There are way more offensive people in the "music" business who can't sing than Miley Cyrus
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ugh she’s the worst. best
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
although
Katy Perry is way better in so many aspects.
What no one knows is that Kes$ha was the chick on the Flo-Rida song Right Round
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i was hoping someone else would step up..
so i wouldn’t be the one to defend her
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
My GF and I have been listening to 104.3 a decent amount
a lot of these pop songs are pretty catchy. I don’t mind most of ’em.
yeah i know right?
i used to be like, “NOT UP IN HEA!” But now, I don’t mind it as much.
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I like 104.3's music
Can’t listen to it too much because they (and every radio station) have such a small rotation, but I dig most of the tunes. I’m not a huge Kesha fan, mostly because of the dollar sign in her name. I won’t spell it. I love how on The Soup Joel McHale calls her Keh Dollar Sign Ha.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
yeah the rotation is pitifully small
an afternoon commute stuck on the beltway and you’ll hear songs multiple times.
XM 42 LIQUID METAL FTW!!!!
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
What's so awesome about her?
SHE can’t sing. And most of her songs make zero sense.
Where are my shoelaces?
making sense is overrated...
ask the beatles or david byrne, for that matter.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...but the Beatles could sing
Wrote their own lyrics and made their own music. It’s highly unfair to the Beatles to compare them to Ke$ha.
Where are my shoelaces?
absolutely...
just saying that nonsensical do not remotely disqualify a song from being good.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
pop music is not about talent or musicianship.
I value such things but in this case it doesn’t matter.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
Fair enough.
I’m not into pop as a genre.
Of course, it depends on how you define pop.
Where are my shoelaces?
so you're telling me...
that you’ve never once, woke up in the morning and felt like P. Diddy? I know I have.
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 10, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
ahahahaah or brushed your teeth with a bottle of Jack?
I just did that this morning.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
nice
I thought I was the only one who analyzed how I felt when I woke up in the morning and asked myself, “is this really how Diddy feels?”
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
THANK YOU
she’s tra$hy as hell…
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
But I’m kinda biased because my GF loves Hannah Montana/Miley Cyrus. We all have our bubblegum vices. I’d listen to Party in the USA over a lot of stuff.
I love that shit
Party in the USA is my shrooms
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
didn't luke...
use that as his walk up music last year? someone on the o’s did.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know about the O's
But that was Nick Johnson’s walk up music for the Yankees last year. It was his daughter’s favorite song so he made it his walk up so she could hear it when she was watching on TV and know he was thinking about her.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
how do you not know about the o's...
you went to a shitload of games last year at opacy, no?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Well I can say for certain that it wasn't anyone's regular walk up music
But some of them switch it up quite a bit so it’s possible that I missed it. I know for years Luke’s walk up was I Wanna Be Your Dog, but I can’t recall if he switched it this year or not.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Matt needs to switch his.
That Nickleback crap makes my ears bleed.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
B-rob used to use “Hypnotize” by Notorious B.I.G… I always liked that.
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 10, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
yep...
the best.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Yes I loved that
it was his walk up for years, now he uses some Christian “rap.” It’s not really rap, it’s terrible. Although when he steals a base or makes a good play or something, the music person still plays Biggie for him, which I love. Oddly enough Cesar made his walk up music Hypnotize last season. It was so confusing.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
That was Cesar's last year, if I recall...
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
That is awesome.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Soil - Halo
is a song that never fails to pump me up, I think I could hit a HR off Cliff Lee after listening to that.
Metallica - Damage, Inc.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Hwigginton's was Fuel IIRC
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
ZZ Top - Sharp Dressed Man...
at least most of the year…
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
maybe last year then?
I distinctly remember Fuel
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
2009 it was definitely Fuel.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
There is a very amusing comment there.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
My best friend always puts on HOT 99.5
When I’m over there. Not a great experience.
Where are my shoelaces?
I do
he’s fantastic lyrically. very, very creative.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I could pick random words out of a Dr. Suess book
and be more creative. His lyrics are garbage. But that’s just my opinion.
Really?
Rick Ross = Garbage.
Souljaboy = Garbage
Wayne =/= Garbage
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
It's an acquired taste..sure...
but don’t put somebody down if you don’t give me an alternative. Who do you prefer?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not into the pop hip hop that is the craze these days
and I’m definitely more of a rock fan anyway. But as far as hip hop, Tech N9ne is above and beyond anyone talent-wise right now, but gets little recognition. Three 6 is good, Eminem
Honestly, I miss when hip hop was rap…where is DMX when you need him? Nowadays it’s just find a horrible dance beat, repeat ridiculous lyric 50 times, end song…drives me crazy.
Ugh DMX
after It’s Dark and Hell is Hot he was just a pop rapper anyway. That’s a solid album though.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
yeah well it's hard to name any rapper/musician in general
who doesn’t resort to more of a pop sound toward the end of their career
Pac?
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don't see him selling out
he seems like someone who would stay true
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions
I like to think that too
but a talent like that? he’d never “disappear”. probably produce or get a record label.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
No way
he lived in the studio. He would have been putting out albums forever (shit he put out albums for 12 years after he died), but he was never going to put out albums just to make cash.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
DMX?!?
Really?
Lyrically, he was always more bluster than much creativity. The barking was nice.
Eminem still has yet to demonstrate that being sober “works” for him as an artist. Looking back he probably peaked around the MM LP and has been trying to get back there since.
I always thought UGK > 36M, and Bun B’s new record is really good. The new Big Boi is A++ (though I want a new OutKast record). Being a total homer, Wale > Cudi.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
IDK about Eminem
There’s a song that’s coming out soon where he kills it. “I need a doctor”
I could DEFINITELY go for a new Outkast!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Isn't that on Detox?
He needs a record where he can really assert himself as being “back”. Relapse wasn’t it. Recovery wasn’t it either, though it was more focused.
He needs to stop singing. And possibly get high. Then, profit.
At this point it’s on 3000 for the Outkast record.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
It actually might be on Dre's new CD
but I agree with the singing – he also needs to stop with the stupid voices. I can’t stand the gimmicky shit that he does.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I was using DMX more as an example of the way the genre was then
as opposed to now. Not saying he was one of the greats.
Today’s hip hop is just pathetic, the fact that Soulja Boy has a career is an embarrassment to America.
Eminem
has ruined the white rapper for me. Yelawolf is really trying to make up that ground though.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I put him a few steps ahead of them
but he still sucks.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Wayne is....
well he’s high. A lot. Like, a ton.
As such, he has the ability to make “sense” without actually having to “make sense”. That said his voice is an acquired taste. I still find it hard to believe that of all the Ca$h Money rappers, he’s the biggest name.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I always thought he was the worst of them.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It also scares me...
because Juvenile was huuuuge when I was a Junior/Senior in HS, Wayne was like 15 and still seemed like a novelty. Now he’s an indie rapper and Wayne is everywhere.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
I still like Juvenile
and I would have put Birdman and Baby ahead of Wayne too.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
The question I have:
What in the hell happend to Silkkk tha Shocker?
j/k
God – CM v No Limit = weaksauce.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
haha
Silk tha Shocker – there’s a blast from the past. That guy might have been the worst rapper ever.
Speaking of Silk – Mystikal just got out of jail and I think he’s coming out with a new CD. lol
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Mystikal...
gosh, didn’t he rape someone?
It’ll be interesting to see what stuff from the current period is put up as the “best” in 10+ years.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
no
Waka Flocka is the worst rapper ever
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
not even close...
T-Baby is FAR worse.
If you’re looking for a white rapper type fella, check out Classified based out of NS here. Also, I think Ghostface Killah should be mentioned among the guys who consistently put out quality.
Now it's in my head, thanks a lot!
Who’s that chick that’s rockin’ kicks, she’s gotta be from out of town.
Damn you, Esskay.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Check out the mashup with Bigge Party and Bullshit - it's solid.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
So you can't smoke pot, but you can smoke a plant with
hallucinogenic properties. Makes sense.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
man, salvia, man
I don’t recommend that shit at all. A friend of mine had a hit of it and we COULD NOT convince him that we weren’t evil alien dopplegangers. How are you supposed to come back from that? Also he was drooling and trying to run out into traffic.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
wait, this stuff is legal?
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
Most places have outlawed it in the last year
OC did this summer
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
It was possible the most awful thing I've ever done
but all i had was like a crushing headache for like 5 minutes
How's it compare to mushrooms?
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Not at all the same
I don’t know if i did too much or what, but it was like i literally could not think for a good 5 minutes. It was like someone turned the gain of all my senses way up and my brain couldn’t process all the information. I’m not sure which was actually salvia, but theres no way that was the same stuff Miley Cyrus is smoking in that video
Wonder how many brain cells bit the dust there.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Can anything compare to 'shrooms? They are fantastic.
Not that I’m, uh, advocating their, uh, use, or anything
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 10, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
I actually know a few people who do shrooms.
Not really my thing.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'm too scared
I don’t like things where I don’t know exactly what I’ll be feeling for exactly how long.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
you guys are awful role models
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
I do what I can to help the next generation out :)
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 10, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
lol
it was actually pretty scary. The guy totally devolved within about 5 seconds.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Yeah
I’m too much of a control freak for that kind of shit.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
that's why I don't even like getting really drunk
I mean, it happens sometimes, but later I feel very uncomfortable about it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I mean I sort of like that
but I’ve done it enough times that I know exactly what I’m in for.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Stroke the furry wall, man.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
Peanut Butter Cap'n Crunch for me!
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 10, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Remember yesterday when the Winter Meetings weren't over
and we could talk about baseball instead of Miley Cyrus? I miss that.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
true, but 2 days ago, during winter meetings
it was all Luke and politics….I don’t miss that. Let’s go Spring Training!
yeah except...
those days were mostly spent discussing politics..
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 10, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
we can talk baseball
how good do you think the Orioles are on paper. Give me a number.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
As far as wins?
Ceiling 82-85….bottom out at 65-68.
I think it will be closer to the top than bottom
This is with the current team
I’m fairly certain they aren’t done adding pieces, so depending what happens, I’d be comfortable saying we can have a .500+ season.
Hm.
They won how many last year? 66? If there are no other changes made this off-season, I’d say they have potential to win between 75-85. That 85 of course is if Wieters takes a big step forward offensively and the young pitchers do as well, and if Hardy and Reynolds prove to be as valuable as I think they will.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I think they were better than a 66 win team last year
I mean, they didn’t PLAY better than a 66 win team, but going into the season they had the talent to be better than that and now they still do plus more, plus the maturation of Wieters, Arrieta, Matusz, maybe Felix, Adam.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
they played like a 63 win team, actually
and the guys lost didn’t contribute a heck of a lot positively to that total
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
having thought about it
right now, I have 73 wins +/- 5…which seems to be a general more or less consensus.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
75 wins on the upside
65 on the down.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
If they make these upgrades
and still win 65, this team is doomed. The young core would have to completely fail and never pan out to not improve on last year.
OT - what kind of hours does everybody work?
I’m just starting a new job (old company got bought) and I’m hearing rumors that 50-60 hours a week is average with peaks as high as 70-80. Sounds like fucking madness to me.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
40/week for me
(okay, more like 38), but I’m a Fed.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
samesies
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
35-40
hopefully maintaining 40 throughout winter. There are a lot of people working 25-30…and then there are those with 0. While I don’t envy a 50-80 hour work week, at least it’s steady work.
What field?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Count on long hours, especially if you are the new guy.
people in the first couple years where I work (consulting) are doing 60-70hr weeks as a routine.
Yeah it sucks
I already did my new guy stint at the old company and now have to do it all over again.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
40-50 for me
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 10, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
7:50 - 3:50 everyday
Its supposed to be 7:30-4 but Im routinely late
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 10, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
40
good thing is i am salary but get paid hourly so all time is paid by the hour. so when I have deadlines I get straight up OT for the hours I work.
Salaried or hourly? 50-60 hourly is pretty awesome sometimes, other than the whole ‘lack of a life/sleep’ thing.
When you're rich you don't write checks - Randy Moss
by s.r.genovese on Dec 10, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
First job out of college
I was salaried. But it was based upon 50 hrs, min per week. And they made you punch a clock to make sure you hit your 50 hrs or they docked you. But at least they didn’t give any sort of bonuses…oh and they were assholes. We got a softball team together and I wore the number 50 in protest. Yeah, that didn’t last. Guess what field it was in?
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 10, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
75-80
2 full time jobs :/
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 10, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
45-60...
primarily because I ride a bus from fucking Columbia into DC and am always getting in early and being forced to stay late to match up the bus schedules.
I did one tax season at a small firm and was regularly putting in 70+ hour weeks. Never again.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
ugh
Yeah I’m really not sure I’m cut out for this…
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
What kind of consulting?
I imagine it’ll vary.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
8-3.15
ereday
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Wish I still had that now.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 10, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
shut up
I just sent in two college apps
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Brady sez Reimold is...
in the best shape of his career.
OK, not really, but he’s all positive & happy Reimold is an Oriole.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Achilles injuries sound bad
If he’s healthy, I think Moldy is going to tear it up next year.
Spewing negativity.
yep...
i had achilles tendinitis once. felt like my foot was getting stabbed every step i took. can’t imagine the pain of rupturing an achilles tendon.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
I tore my achilles four years ago
Hurt like hell and it’s still not all the way back. You need time and serious pro-level rehab to really regain the muscle tone and mobility that you lose.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 10, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
He was so good in '09.
And so bad in ‘10. It can’t have been that ’09 was a mirage. It had to be the injury.
And if it was the injury, Reimold is going to be a damned good ballplayer. That makes me very excited about 2011.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
plus there was the baby drama
hopefully, that situation is resolved.
brady anderson is the shit. that is all.
Spewing negativity.
i was really surprised...
when he was on the radio this past year. didn’t at all sound like what i thought he would sound like. he also has speech impediment, which he certainly has the $ to fix.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 10, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
he used to call in to 98Rock once a week
Or they’d call him. Soooo many mornings he was lying in bed next to his rock star girlfriend at the time, just shooting the shit.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
For those of you chilling in the open thread
New post on the front page, Get to know the new O: J.J. Hardy
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Any idea on who the PTBNL is in the Reynolds deal?
I thought it would be public knowledge after the Rule 5 draft!
Librarians are hiding something
I wouldn't worry about it
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Oh I'll worry about it alright!
The PTBNL in the Bradford trade is the Holy Grail!
Librarians are hiding something
oh why andy, why?
#Orioles have re-signed Cesar Izturis. terms not yet disclosed
3 minutes ago via web
Librarians are hiding something
insurance policy for Hardy given his health
I guess this definitely means the end of Andino, or perhaps the team wants 3 utility middle infielders.
1) collect utility infielders
2) ?????
3) profit
Librarians are hiding something
don't forget Roberts and his back
the depth (albeit of crappy bench players) going into spring training is a good idea.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Maybe you need 3 guys to pinch run for Weiters
The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.
by James (Lost in Boston) on Dec 10, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
better than Brendan Harris
I’m sure there will be a competition, though, for the utility guy between those 2 and Andino. I assume it’s not a big contract either.
yup
The Orioles have re-signed Cesar Izturis to a one-year deal, according to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun (Twitter links). The deal is pending a physical.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 4:39 PM EST reply actions
oh for god's sake...
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
that's to the signing
not the late post by the way
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hardy and Roberts had injury issues last year
Cesar can competently play the field, despite his shitttastic hitting. Making him a better back up than Harris or Dino.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Really?
NESN.com’s Tony Lee thinks that giving up relievers David Hernandez and Kam Mickolio for Mark Reynolds was too much.
“They gave up two intriguing arms in exchange for the powerful but maddening Reynolds Not the best of weeks for the AL East doormats.”
I saw that earlier
I suppose Hernandez and Mickolio are worth Longoria, but what are you going to do?
Librarians are hiding something
Hernandez has way more upside tham Kam, in my opinion
and I don’t see him sticking as a starter or becoming a dominant closer, so if to give up 2 potential ML bullpen arms for a starting 3B with 40 HR power tell him we’ll gladly trade him Jim Johnson and Koji for Adrian Gonzalez.
that should say
so if to give up 2 potential ML bullpen arms for a starting 3B with 40 HR power is a bad deal
You know who else was an intriguing arm? DCabs.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
I'll never forget
the shit the Os got for dealing Denny Bautista — not that it was a good trade, but BP and everyone was acting like Bautista was some kind of uber-prospect just because he could throw hard. But really, guys like that don’t pan out anywhere near as often as people seem to think.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 10, 2010 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I mean
People were right that Grimsley was useless, but in the process of trashing the trade they acted as if the Orioles had given up something really significant rather than just a long shot live arm. And of course, the difference is that Reynolds is actually good at baseball. Unlike Grimsley.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 10, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
geez, bautista was a good prospect
He wasn’t an uber-prospect, but a very good prospect nonetheless. At age 20, he racked up 138 SO/50 BB with a 3.41 ERA between high A and AA. At AA the next year, he racked up 145 SO/65 BB with a 3.49 ERA. To give up a prospect like that for a middle reliever is stupid.
Spewing negativity.
It wasn't a good trade or use of resources
I’m absolutely not defending the trade, just saying that even a guy with a track record like Bautista (better than Hernandez or Hoey), particularly if the missing piece in their game is control, is still less than a 50/50 shot to have any impact in the majors. So I guess I’m saying they were smart to deal Bautista, they just should have got something useful for him.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 10, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Well
“smart” isn’t the right word, exactly … more like, it wasn’t dealing Bautista that was the main problem with that deal; it was getting Grimsley.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 10, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
It blows my mind...
…that a website like NESN actually pay people to write that garbage. And I hate Lee’s arrogance too. He’s pretty much everything I hate about Boston. Can we just sell New England to China (we can throw in VA too) and make Luke Scott President of that new Chinese providence?
president of New England?
not something I would wish on my worst enemy
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
Please don't sell New England to China
while I still live here.
The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.
by James (Lost in Boston) on Dec 10, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Can we at least sell them Boston and Foxboro?
Actually, here is a better plan, since the city of Boston itself is really nice, as in NE:
1. Sail a huge freighter into Boston harbor and tell the Sux fans that if they fill the ship with fans, Cliff Lee will sign there and the Yankees will always lose to them.
2. ?
3. profit
I think I would like living here more if you
1. got rid of sox fans (and the sox) with the side benefit of reducing traffic
2. ????
3. Profit
The world is a mess and I just need to rule it.
by James (Lost in Boston) on Dec 10, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
And VA, too?
So me and all the other O’s fans still in VA? I don’t really like Southern Virginia very much, but that’s where pretty much all the colleges are (including mine), so they can stay, too.
They're just annoyed that he's gonna hit a few over the Monster.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Mawnstah!
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 10, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
sweet
appearances, but posted an above-average UZR/150 (5.8) in 1250 innings on defense.
The Orioles have also signed Nick Green to a minor league deal with an invitation to Spring Training, according to Jeff Zrebiec of the Sun (via Connolly on Twitter). The 32-year-old picked up just 23 plate appearances last year, but he has a career .237/.305/.348 line in parts of six MLB seasons. Connolly suggests Harris, Andino and Green will likely battle for one roster spot in Spring Training.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 10, 2010 5:24 PM EST reply actions
Ahahaha:
Garrett Atkins has drawn interest from Japanese teams, but would like to return to the majors, according to Tracy Ringolsby of FOX Sports.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/odds-ends-matsui-garza-red-sox-angels.html
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Who would want him in the MLB anyways?
If he couldn’t make it in Baltimore, it’s unlikely he’s making it anywhere else.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 10, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Pittsburgh.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Fuck
I’d also like to play in the majors. Can someone write an article about that?
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm on it :)
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 10, 2010 9:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm always serious
Look for my article on Monday titled “10 reasons to consider Dave Harris for your professional baseball team.”
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
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