Monday Bird Droppings
by Stacey on Dec 13, 2010 7:30 AM EST
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PrintDid everyone have a lovely weekend? I certainly did. Hopefully there will be plenty of delicious O's news this week to discuss while we wait for spring (108 days until Opening Day!). Some of these links are a few days old, but you know, no BD on the weekend.
Baltimore Orioles Top 20 Prospects for 2011 | Minor League Ball
John Sickels released his rankings for the O's with only two A prospects (Manny Machado and Zach Britton) and two B prospects (Dan Klein and Mychal Givens).
Berken confident he'll bounce back from shoulder tear | Green Bay Press Gazette
Jason Berken is dragging Brian Matusz to a baseball camp in Wisconsin in January, and he's also sure he'll be ready to pitch when Spring Training starts.
Brady Anderson talks about Reynolds | School of Roch
It turns out that Brady Anderson not only works out with Nolan Reimold but also Mark Reynolds. Anderson, predictably, loves him.
Checking in on Australia | MASN Sports
Steve Melewski provides an update on the O's minor leaguers playing winter ball in Australia.
New York Times mistakes Earl Weaver for being dead | Baltimore Sports Report
Earl Weaver isn't dead, you know.
The Redemption of Andy MacPhail | Orioles Hangout
Just a week ago, many O's fans were ready to run MacPhail out of town. But after his success at the winter meetings, Paul Folkemer believes he has earned a reprieve.
Flashback Friday: Don Buford's Five Strikeout Day | Roar From 34
The acquisition of strikeout machine Mark Reynolds got Matt at RF34 thinking about Don Buford's Orioles' record of once striking out five times in one game.
I still think the O’s could contend in ’11 | Baltimore Sports and Life
Chris Stoner throws out a bunch of things that have to happen for the Orioles to contend in 2011.
Orioles: Grading the Winter Meetings | The Loss Column
Neal at the The Loss Column gives the offseason so far a grade of B.
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I spent all weekend pondering the Izturis resigning
and my initial thought still rings true: fucking stupid. Can ANYONE show me the light?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Who gives a shit?
He’s gonna sit on the bench. Just insurance in case somebody gets hurt.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
its wasted money and a wasted roster spot
the bench is important, and ours is going to suck eggs.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
And who would you put in his place?
He’s got some speed and plays good defense. How is that wasted?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
he does not have speed
I mean, I guess you can use him as a pinch runner for Wieters or Hardy, but he’s a not a viable stolen base threat at all. And his defense is, you know, incredibly mitigated by his bat. If you’re going to use a replacement level middle infielder as your backup, why not just use one of the two guys you already have?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'll say this again....who gives a shit?
It has little to no meaning. Definitely doesn’t warrant a “fucking stupid.”
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
well what else am I gonna think about?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
maybe Izzy KNOWS SOMETHING …. i’m going to tune into wnst for NEWS OF CONSPIRACY
by thewaywardO on Dec 13, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
All I can figure is
They want to have more than one MI on the bench in case Brian has more back issues. But if we have to replace him with Izzy, Harris, or Andino for too long of a time, we’re fucked anyway.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
more than one MI
The idea of having more than one MI on the is pretty annoying because the result is that a guy like Jake Fox won’t make the team. Assuming the Orioles go with a 4 man bench, with 3 of those spots reserved for an OF (Reimold), a C (Moehler) and a utility IF who can play short (Andino).
This kind of stuff matters because a good bench is something that should be pretty easy to assemble.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Well I doubt it'll be Moehler
It’ll probably be either Fox or Tatum. I don’t care if Fox isn’t on the bench. He’s not good.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I'm not going to lose sleep at night over the prospect of Jake Fox not making the team.
However, I do agree with you that there’s no reason to double up on light-hitting middle infielders on the bench.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Yep...cuz I'm worried about Jake Fox not making the team
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Izzy isn't a bad bench piece.
Maybe a bit expensive (particularly in comparison to Dino), but he can fill in at SS and 2B competently with the glove (unlike Lugo).
Spewing negativity.
Last year's utility player: Julio Lugo
he is, at the very least, an improvement over Lugo. Hopefully he only needs to play once a week or so, if B-Rob and JJ stay healthy.
my issue is that the Orioles already had two perfectly competent players
who could be backup infielder, and then they went and blew an extra million and a half to bring back Cesar, who isn’t noticeably better than Harris or Andino in a backup role.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I know Cesar gets so much hate for how bad he is offensively
and should not be a starter. But do you really think, over an entire season, Harris or Andino would be better? A million and a half really isn’t much in today’s baseball terms, and Andino has yet to prove his MLB worth. Admittedly, I don’t know a ton about Harris, but I think I trust Cesar a little more than those two guys if he needs to be a starter again due to injury.
Andino has yet to prove his MLB worth
I think this summarizes the whole argument AGAINST izturis. We don’t know what we have in Andino. It may be nothing, he may be at least as good as izzy. But by giving at-bats to Izturis and not Andino, we never find out.
Disagree
Andino stinks and isn’t going to do anything but stink.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
But is he going to be so much worse than Izturis over the course of the season,
that its not worth confirming that?
Eh...don't really care
To me, it means almost nothing. I don’t really care who is in that spot and it’s not likely any of the three will provide any serious value other than playing 2B when Roberts inevitably injures his back.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Neither is a long term solution
and neither will be here when we (hopefully) start to content again. It will be a good thing if neither plays more than once a week. All I know is this: Machado better develop quickly.
Harris is not a perfectly competent player
he’s not even on the Orioles’ 40-man roster (because he was waived by the Twins and demoted to the minors last season). he can’t play defense at any position (negative UZRs across the board), he might have the potential to be a league average hitter, maybe, and his career has been on a steady decline over the past 4 or 5 years. I don’t think the O’s especially wanted him in this trade – it was just a salary dump by the Twins, similar to Ryan Freel a few years ago.
Love
what they say about Mycal Givens. I am hoping he turns out to be a steady pro in the near future. I haven’t heard or read much of Dan Klein. Can anyone give me the lowdown on him?
When you're born into the human race you're given a ticket to the freak show. When you're born in America, you're given a front row seat. And some of us have notepads.-George Carlin
by Afghanistan Steve on Dec 13, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions
Klein
was UCLA’s closer last year after some arm problems dropped him into the bullpen, though the Orioles like his 4 pitch repertoire and intend to make him a starter again. We’ll see about that. He was also drafted twice by the O’s (a common occurrence with Joe Jordan – and I suspect with many scouting directors).
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
seems like...
a righty version of matusz in body type and repertoire if not quite as refined as matusz.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 13, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
with injury problems
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Dec 13, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
Converting a reliever to a starter
Yeah, I’m not sure why they are doing this, although I think it makes sense given his repetoire and the fact that he can always be converted to a reliever if the starter experiment doesn’t work.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
He was originally a starter
but he had some arm issues and was moved into the bullpen.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
He had shoulder surgery during his freshman year,
but I’ve heard it was from a football injury more than a baseball injury. They put him in the pen in college to protect his shoulder, but he’s got the size and the repertoir that suggests he could be a starter.
i would like to take a minute to revisit the “literally” meltdown from yesterday.
my comments appear to suggest that i had a negative reaction to the tussle. but the fact is the parties handled themselves brilliantly. and it was one of the more entertaining exchanges i have read in quite a while. i’m pretty sure the irony was not lost on the parties even amid the heat of the moment.
just felt like getting that out there.
Literally.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 13, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, it was quite entertaining
and both sides are entitled to their own opinions, although I think they were basically of the same thinking, just arguing over semantics.
Another boring Monday
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
(Subject)
(Insanely easy joke about “Stoner” thinking the O’s can contend next year)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
dude's living on Mars
under a rock, with his fingers in his ears, singing Helter Skelter at the top of his lungs. When I get to the bottom I go back to the top of slide then I turn and I go for a ride.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
No real news, heh
Everyone’s just sitting around waiting for Lee contract news, and the corresponding Beltre post-Lee news..
I wonder what it would take to get Beltre here if it comes down to a “well, he’s gotta go somewhere” sort of scenario.
Andrew
Im bored and probably missed alot of the conversation.
But what are your thoughts on Britton for THIS season?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 11:39 AM EST reply actions
I'm more interested to know his thoughts on the Izturis signing.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
I expect he will drink his fair share and have good times
maybe even, as T-Rex says, sexy times.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Perhaps a little less ambiguity??
My last name is Britton too so I’ve been pumped seeing him come through the farm successfully….
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I know...I was...you know...oh, forget it
I’ve heard that the plan is to let Britton and Tillman duke it out in Spring Training, but honestly I don’t know how how Britton’s stuff will play in the majors, so I only expect that he will be up at some point, struggle some, find some success. He could probably use a little more seasoning. Really, though: no expectations outside of attendance.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Do you think we sign a vet so he's less likely to be rushed,
or stick with our youngsters in the rotation so they get more major-league experience? I’m guessing MacPhail is still going to try to sign a vet, but I’m not sure what I think he should do.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I don't see what good a veteran starting pitcher does
at some point which we are rapidly approaching, it’s sink or swim time. Also: what veteran starting pitcher? It’s not like the 200 inning type guys are out there waiting for the Orioles to call.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I do have concerns about the lack of depth if someone were to get hurt
but I’m not sure theres a solution besides crossing our fingers and hoping that doesn’t happen.
They're going to need someone at some point
You can’t get through the year with five starters. You probably can’t get through the year with six starters. But I’d rather it be someone who can sit around in AAA and wait on one of the youngsters or Guts to need some time off rather than an old dude who will be getting their innings.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
yeah
any replacement starters need to be the back-up plan, not a guy already in the rotation on Opening Day blocking somebody from getting some experience…unless the Orioles are intent on giving Tillman another solid block of months in AAA (which we know is not their plan).
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Soooo
Guthrie/Matusz/Bergesen/Arrieta/Tillman is probably the opening day rotation, with Britton waiting in the shadows for Tillman to screw up and get his bus ticket or Bergesen to get hit by a pitch?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
That's what it seems like to me
Although I would imagine that if Britton tears up ST and Tillman doesn’t they might give Britton a shot. I wouldn’t agree with that but that seems like the kind of thing the Orioles would do.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
but...
i they also tend to favor classic stopgap aaa/aaaa guys. i mean, don’t vandenhurk and patton merit some consideration for spot start/swingman gigs?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 13, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot vandenhurk existed
Yeah he could be an option. Patton too, I suppose, but after the way they treated him during his call ups I don’t know what to think about that guy.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Now the Rangers are making an "aggressive move" for Beltre?
Wowsers…
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 11:59 AM EST reply actions
once he signs hes a .800 ops type player again
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Dec 13, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
in texas he could be a pretty solid offensive force
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
What do you do with Young then... just DH him?
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
he's on the trading block
but DHing him might be the right choice, his defense is pretty bad nowadays, even at 3rd base.
So since i think i've pretty much decided to get a PS3
The Show or MLB2KX ? I’ll probably wait until the 2011 versions come out, but which series is better?
I've heard that The Show is much, much better.
But I haven’t played either for more than a few minutes myself.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
i've played 'em both..
i played the Show a fair amount last year. It is a much more polished game than 2KXX. The graphics in the Show are way better and 2K can be very buggy. Although, It’d be nice if 2K could get their shit together cause I really like what they are doing using the analog sticks for pitching and hitting.
I really like MLB Power Pros,
but they haven’t made another one since the 2008 version… and the O’s have so many young guys (so they’re not even in the game) that trying to set up the current roster would be a lot of effort.
And yes, if you look it up, it looks simplistic and kiddie, but the gameplay is quite deep.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
loved that game
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Dec 13, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
The Show
I think I’m going to get a PS3 as well (over an Xbox). Actually, I decided that a very very long time ago, but I still haven’t come to terms with dropping 300 bucks on a gaming system since I don’t know how much use it’ll get (I’m one of those people who gets a video game and plays it like crazy for a while….then never plays it again once the novelty wears off).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
PS3
As a disclaimer, I’m a PS guy through and through. I do think it’s the better system, and the quality and quantity of games is really slingshotting (is that a word?) itself up past the xbox IMO. I really like the God of War series, as well as Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, etc etc etc. As for MLB, definitely go with The Show, as there have been a lot of gameplay complaints about the 2K series.
Gran Turismo is what makes the difference for me
although there has been reviews saying GT5 isn’t as great as it could have been, and Forza Motorsport is quickly closing the gap, I’ve been waiting for that game for years.
What I want
if a return of the Nascar series, as well as for EA to get the Big dept back in production. I was addicted to the SSX series, and I think they would play huge on a big screen TV.
I'm playing GT5 right now.
And I’ve played every Forza game. GT5 is much better. Like you said though, it isn’t quite as good as you would expect it to be after 6 years of development and I think that because of that it is getting bad reviews. Most people have trouble looking at it for what it is, the best racing simulator ever, versus what it could have been.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Better than Grand Prix Legends?
I spent way too much time earning a negative GPLRank
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
I think so.
Especially considering the physics put into the many, many different types of cars compared to just one style in GPL. Every car feels different. Every track plays different.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Cool
Now I need a PS3, a wheel, GT5, and a few months with nothing to do.
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Yea I really need to get a wheel.
The Nascar stuff is really hard with the controller.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
And gold medals on the Nascar challenges pay a ton of money.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
A wheel is a must for any racing sim
I’m not into pressing a button to brake
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Now there's a game.
Happy memories of the first corner at monza (minus the railrider idiots).
My inability to trailbrake the lotus was ultimately the downfall.
"Ohhh it's baad" - E. Smith
I really liked the Brabham and the Eagle
The Eagle owned at Spa, and the Brabham was the only car I could keep on the Nurburgring. Ah, the Ring.
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Ferrarri was my limit.
Definitely the ring.
You know a game is hardcore when you feel like keeping it on the road on the back straight is an acheivment.
"Ohhh it's baad" - E. Smith
Back straight was fine
It was flugplatz and the downhill sections that kept getting me
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Posted this yesterday
Right now if you buy a PS3 on Amazon, you get a 75 dollar credit to spend on almost anything on Amazon. Makes the $300 a little easier to deal with.
That's true
But I’ll inevitably spend that 75 on video games.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
Haha...yea
Most likely.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Im a big craigslist junkie
Pretty sure you can find ‘like-new’ ones for $150
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
When you get The Show
make sure you visit operationsports.com/forums/scea-sports-mlb-rosters/ and get their rosters. They do full minors so you don’t have to have made up prospects and they do a very good job.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't you eventually have to have made up prospects?
Unless you were content with only playing 1 season a year?
Well yea
but when you start a franchise your minors system is a bunch of made up guys. Only players with ML experience are included in the game. When OS releases their updated rosters a few weeks after the game launches it will have full minors for every team. The game has a limit on players for each franchise (75) so you won’t have everyone in the club’s system, but you will have all real players.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
I guess then at least you can start off as accurately as possible
Though on the other hand, do I really want an accurate version of the Orioles farm system?
Well at least you can trade for other teams real prospects.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I have both and I quit playing 2K
The Show is a much better game in every aspect. 2K has a lot of bugs and it seems like the developers just didn’t bother to put in any effort.
.02
The Show is insanely good
and waaaay better than 2k. Not even a contest.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Are any of you game players? Like board games?
I’m trying to find one to get my father as a gift for Christmas but it’s so hard to tell if a game is going to be lame or not. I’m looking for something that requires some kind of skill, but not one of these super complex games that either takes forever to play or super complex strategy and such.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
yes, I said super complex twice. Deal with it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yeah I know KLaw likes that one
Actually I think he has a list of top board games on his blog, I should go check it out.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Settlers of Catan
http://www.amazon.com/MayFair-Games-4102480-Settlers-Catan/dp/B000W7JWUA
It’s sort of like an introduction to the “super complex” world of board games. It may seem hard to learn, but after a half an hour it’ll seem easy. It’s my favorite game, and my friends and I play a lot of the “super complex” board games.
And kba just beat me to it, but I’ll post this anyway.
Have you played Dominion?
Just glancing at the pictures of Settlers of Catan they look like they might be similar.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
they are not similar at all
but Dominion is pretty fun, too
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
well they kinda look the same :)
I haven’t actually read any of the description of Settlers of Catan yet. I prefer pretty pictures.
I’ve only played Dominion once and by the end I enjoyed it, which I thought I was going to hate it at the beginning based on how it looked kinda nerdy.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
there is a similarish card game out there called Citadels
simpler than Dominion but also fun
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I like Apples to Apples
Always have a good times with that one. Balderdash is alot of fun too
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah we have both of those in the family already
I alternate between enjoying and hating Apples to Apples.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
how much you enjoy apples to apples
is directly related to how drunk everyone involved is, in my experience.
Agreed
It gets wayyyy more fun as you consume more alcohol.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I hate it.
I’m very competitive and I can’t stand when people don’t play it right. There is always the one asshole that picks the completely stupid card when there is an obvious ‘correct’ card played just because it makes them laugh and that ruins the game for me.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
That is exactly what my brother says. He hates it too.
Because there isn’t technically one correct answer or whatever he hates it.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Well I don't mind when it is iffy.
It irritates me when the card is, for example, ‘scary’ and someone plays ‘ghosts’ or some other obvious answer and the person whose turn it is selects ‘hilary clinton’ as the best answer. The worst part is that the instruction manual actually encourages that kind of play.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Bit K&B
Are ghosts really scarier than her? Do you think Bill really would have rather approached a ghost and confessed to being orally pleasured by Monica?
Dead on usage!
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Dude...you're no fun!
That’s the whole point of the game! The obvious answer is boring and there is no refuting the fact that Hilary Clinton is scary.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
If that is the point then there shouldn't be a winner.
If you aren’t first you’re last.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
There really isn't a winner
I mean…I’ve always played that game while drinking so nobody cares at the end anyways, but even if you aren’t drinking, there really isn’t a winner.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
Hillary Clinton is a much better answer than “ghost”. I’d be disappointed if anyone played “ghost”, much less voted for it.
This!
Preferably over beers.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Camden Chat BOARD GAME NIGHT!
Nothin’ nerdy about that…
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
That's what the alcohol is for
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Are you saying I can't get drunk by myself?
I think we’ve had plenty of gamethreads that proves thats not true.
It's more fun to get drunk with internet friends
Stacey, for one, becomes even more lovable after a few beers, which is hard to imagine, I know, given her baseline level of extreme awesomeness as it is.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
I'm fairly certain that's the first time I've ever been described as loveable
Awesome I get all the time, but not lovable. Thanks!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
You are a walking definition of a lovable hoot
And I mean that with all kindness.
That, or it’s the sinus meds talking. One of the two.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
I doubt it.
If duck gets promoted, he only has to do more stuff.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
But I'll double his pay!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
We have a winner
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
No worries
I’m grooming Andrew to be the John Angelos to my Peter anyway ;)
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
you know, that kind of makes a lot of sense to me
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Who's Rick Dempsey in this scenario?
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
You know, I've been racking my brain and I can't come up with anyone.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
well, thank you :)
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
And you've mentioned a BF on here
He’s never referred to you as lovable? You gotta train that boy better!
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Heh, you met him at the Mobbies
You couldn’t tell he’s not really one for the words? Which is fine by me because it leaves me plenty of time to talk.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Just your type, then. :)
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Drink a few beers (or ten....or 20) dude
Then you’ll completely forget who your playing with.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
I've long ago come to terms with nerdiness.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I played this game with some family for the first time on Thanksgiving.
The adjective was “puffy” and I had a blank, which I tossed in and announced, “Sean Combs.” My cousin didn’t know that was Puff Daddy. My genius is lost on some. So it goes.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
That is a perfect example of how to correctly play the game, though
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Eventually I got fed up and started throwing in the stupidest possible choice every time.
That’s when I started winning.
I don’t think I’m going to be in a rush to play that game again any time soon.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
See guys I'm not the only one.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
You guys play with the wrong people!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
That's always annoying
I can’t say that I’ve played with anyone who did that on a regular basis. Sometimes it was really funny when that happened though. Depends on the kind of humor you and they other people enjoy.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree
I’m competitive too but I also like to have a good time. Im not gonna spaz out cuz I missed out on a point in Apples to Apples I thought should have been awarded me.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not going to spaz out either
and sometimes it can be funny, but I don’t see the point to playing a game when everyone just picks stupid answers. It seems pointless to me.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
It's not stupid....it's abstract
You pick the clever ones. That’s the whole point of the random cards in there like JFK and Hilary Clinton and Helen Keller.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
For me it there has to still be a connection between the cards
it doesn’t have to be the most ‘correct’ card, but it has to be something more than completely nonsensical. Like you need to have a reason why these two things should never go together. Unless its the Helen Keller card, which always wins no matter what.
Yea....Helen Keller is always the trump card
There should usually be a connection between the cards, but I’ve seen some pretty crazy things that I’ve never thought of before. You have to appeal to the person’s sense of humor. I ended up picking one person’s over and over again because she seemingly had my sense of humor pegged perfectly.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Both of those games are awesome!
So fun to play (although I haven’t touched either in a very long time since nobody seems to like playing board games anymore).
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Balderdash is my fave board game
Anything requiring creativity and alcohol is a recipe for fun.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
depends on how many players you are talking about
3-5 players you can’t go wrong with Ticket to Ride. It’s my go-to if my friends get together and want to play a game.
Also, consider my invention of “Drunk Risk” wherein you take a shot of beer from the country in contention per unit lost.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
3-5 sounds about right
We normally break out the games at family get togethers and he likes to have a new one around the holidays.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Ever given this game a try?
http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/17133/railroad-tycoon
It’s not similar to Ticket to Ride re: game machanics, but it’s railroad-themed and is another of my favorite games.
I have not seen that one
one time I played the European version of ticket to ride, it was way confusing. I had no idea what or where half the cities I had were.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
If you want to mix things up with a card game,
Mille Bornes is an old favorite of mine. 2-4 players; I think if you go with 4, it’s two teams of two each.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Mille Bornes is fun
I played that a lot growing up. Also played a lot of “Rivers, Roads, and Rails.”
We like card games
I’ve never played Mille Bornes but it looks like fun. Have you played Guillotine? We have fun with that one.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
That's a good one, too.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
that one is fun
takes a little bit to learn but once you do easy as hell.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
Hm, not sure I have.
I love board and card games, but haven’t had anyone to play them with regularly for ages.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
yeah my family is into them, which is nice
My friends, too, although we mostly just play Taboo and Mad Gab.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Candy Land
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I love this one
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
Strat-o-matic Baseball
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Dec 13, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
monopoly or an ouiji board
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Monopoly is awesome
especially if you start putting out loans.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
Settlers of Catan
I love that game, our family plays it for hours and hours during the holidays. The board can always be randomized for fairly unique games and the expansion sets are wonderful!
Of the expansion packs my favorite is Cities and Knights but Seafarers is a close second.
"I could no more abandon my Orioles than I could repudiate my family, or my native heath, or my own childhood—even though I know it is a devotion that can now bring only grief." - David Bentley Hart
by Gorilla Bird on Dec 13, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
My friends and I go to a board gaming convention in Lancaster, PA
We don’t go every year but we’ve gone the past few years. The convention advertises itself as The World Boardgaming Championships, but it’s basically a week of open gaming and playing in tournaments if you want to. It’s the first week of August and it’s awesome.
Anyway, the Settlers tournament is on the last day and we always enter. One year my friend got sixth place and the next year I got seventh place. Because there are time limits imposed upon each round, they vary the rules a little bit:
- First placement is a settlement (plus road), second placement is a city (plus road), and third settlement is an additional road.
- If a seven is rolled during the first round, it is ignored and the player rolls again.
We’ve adopted those rules as “house rules” because they just make the game more fun and fair, especially the rule about ignoring the seven the first time around.
That sounds awesome!
I’m going to have to check that out. A close friend of the family (and now Catan addict) lives in the Lancaster area so I may pass this information on to him.
Thanks for sharing!
I just bought my dad “Catan Histories, America: Trails to Rails” for Christmas, so we’ll see if it’s any good.
"I could no more abandon my Orioles than I could repudiate my family, or my native heath, or my own childhood—even though I know it is a devotion that can now bring only grief." - David Bentley Hart
by Gorilla Bird on Dec 13, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Games & Stuff in Glen Burnie
Opposite the ice rink.
Has a great selection of all styles of board games.
"Ohhh it's baad" - E. Smith
Folkemar article
Just one week ago, MacPhail’s popularity in Baltimore was at an all-time low. Even lower than when he signed Garrett Atkins.
Folkemar seems to a paint a dreary picture last offseason with the Millwood et al signings but if IIRC a lot of people were happy with Andy’s work.
MacPhail couldn’t dawdle any longer— he needed to make a splash at the winter meetings to repair his reputation.
Well, I’d say he nailed it.
I like the fact that Twins practically gave us Hardy but he’s a one year rental. And I think the Reynolds trade was a fair value trade. He fills an important hole but we also gave up value in that trade as well. I don’t know how these two signings repair his reputation. If anything, these signings further reinforces his image of someone who is concerned about short-term respectability.
Spewing negativity.
I don't recall people being especially happy with last off-season
although most weren’t as unhappy as Andrew, for example (who turned out to be right on). But I think most people were anti-Millwood until he only cost Chris Ray (plus the extra money), then people were like “oh well, what can it hurt.” I don’t recall anyone being happy about Garrett Atkins. Everyone was perplexed by that move from the get-go. But I think you’re right that it’s not like Andy’s popularity plummeted because of it. Maybe Paul’s view is being colored a bit by hindsight.
I think that it depends on who you ask, obviously, but those moves did a lot to make it seem like MacPhail was really addressing needs. There was a need at 3B, now there isn’t. There was a need at SS, now there isn’t. Yeah they don’t help long-term but you have to prepare for the short-term as well. And like Paul says, Hardy isn’t old so if he ends up staying here for a few more years then it could end up being a pretty big win for the O’s. And yeah, you could sign him as a FA after next year, but I think having him play here (provided it isn’t a miserable experience for him) could work in the O’s favor.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
But I think most people were anti-Millwood until he only cost Chris Ray (plus the extra money), then people were like "oh well, what can it hurt."
Veteran innings eater was the mantra I remember hearing A LOT last offseason. There was certainly a lot of positive feelings about Miggy. See here. 52% said of CCers said it was a good move. Another 24% said it was a great move. Atkins was pretty mixed. See here and here. Even Gonzo’s signing found quite a bit of support if you look at that first link.
And yeah, you could sign him as a FA after next year, but I think having him play here (provided it isn’t a miserable experience for him) could work in the O’s favor.
Usually that works against the O’s
Spewing negativity.
People thinking Miggi was a great move is ridiculous.
I didn’t think it was, so maybe that’s what I’m remembering (and I wrote about it, but you didn’t link to that one :P). And I remember that after the Miggi move, I felt even worse about the Atkins move. I never thought Miggi would be as bad as he was, but who did?
I’m not sure what positive you see about Atkins or Gonzo in that second link you posted. The entire thing about Gonzalez was, “Too much money, can’t believe we gave away a draft pick, but at least he’s actually a good pitcher.” Which, when he was healthy, he WAS a good pitcher. But I wouldn’t call that mixed reactions on that or Atkins. In fact the only real non-negative on Atkins came from James of all people. It’s mostly, “thank god it’s only one year” which, if you call that a positive I don’t know what to tell you.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
and I can't read that third link because of all the politics in it
I can’t deal.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
oh those links are a fun trip down memory lane
boy I was really angry wasn’t I?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
oooh, James is taking a couple hits in my 20/20 hindsight book
“Cano isn’t that good, first off” and “uf Jeter ever slows down” then the Yankees can be beaten. Tough times in the projecting business.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I hate hindsight
I feel like if anyone ever looked at the stuff I said a few years ago they’d never listen to me again.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
heh, I think I have myself rated as -6 zillion in the hindsight book
but, on the other hand, I do still have James’ dollar.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
At least you're bold, Stacey.
I don’t know if I’ve ever even made a prediction that could be easily ridiculed.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
By claiming you've never made a prediction that could be easily ridiculed
aren’t you potentially making a prediction that could be easily ridiculed?
by kba26 on Dec 13, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ow my brain
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Not since I didn't actually make such a prediction.
All I said was that I don’t know if I ever made a prediction that could be easily ridiculed. Maybe I made one and I forgot. Maybe I never made one.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I'm so bored I might just look and see if you've boldly predicted anything ever
I mean, other than Nolan Reimold hitting a walk off home run in game seven of the world series.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Story of my life.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know if they're predictions really
But you get pretty bold in the gamethreads sometimes. Feisty and bold.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I’m not sure what positive you see about Atkins or Gonzo in that second link you posted. The entire thing about Gonzalez was, "Too much money, can’t believe we gave away a draft pick, but at least he’s actually a good pitcher."
There’s are certainly a fair number of positive comments. The 12th post, “I think, despite the two-year deal being a gamble unless he puts up solid numbers and can be flipped like Flat Breezy, this is a great signing.” I also see a lot apathy about the Gonzo and Atkins signings.
Spewing negativity.
If Gonzo comes back healthy
he could have a solid first half of the season and have decent value at the trade deadline. That prediction could still come true.
the only real thing I get from those links
is that a lot of folks are pleased with most moves…sort of like a “Come on and DO SOMETHING already!!” kind of mentality and satisfaction. It makes me wonder about the generally positive vibe from this winter so far…
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
There seems to be a variety of reactions in those threads that it makes it hard to characterize public sentiment as one way or another. Personally, I didn’t mind the Atkins signings, but I didn’t dig Gonzo.
Spewing negativity.
well, anyway there's definitely some overly strong knee-jerk reactions
and the optimism about the Orioles’ wins in 2010 makes me a sad panda.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
well nobody takes that dude seriously
I wonder what ever happened to him?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
oh yeah? I guess with the punctuation I didn't realize it was him.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Didn't realize that guy still existed.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
+1 for using a period
-1 for saying aactually
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Definitely is
I love O’sfan21’s reactions to the guy’s posts.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
I stand by my Miggi cheerleading
Dude had 199 hits in 2009!!!!
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
by duck on Dec 13, 2010 4:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
cough NATIONAL LEAGUE!!! cough
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I think last off-season was a disaster, but didn't fan morale increase somewhat because of Buck Magic?
Obviously, it’s anyone’s guess whether we can sustain that strong finish through the 2011 season, but it seemed like a shrewd move. Hiring Buck and his subsequent effect on the team gained some, but not all, of my trust.
Where are my shoelaces?
seinfeld
fox 5 in dc showed the epi on friday where george gets the yanquis to switch to cotton unis. buck had a speaking part, there was a p.a. part voiced by bob shepherd in the background that sounded like it was done for the epi and elaine was wearing her o’s hat. sort of amusing.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Ugh...you know what the problem is with twitter?
I like it a lot, but these real time updates all give me conflicting information on Cliff Lee. Plus…retweeting? I’ve already seen it. I don’t need to see it again.
Where are my shoelaces?
Yeah, you sorta have to do your own quick fact checking
but once you get used to that instant, no-waiting-for-editors-to-drop-it-into-an-article-and-put-it-onto-a-website news feedback, there’s really no going back.
More O’s players should get on there besides Jones, whose twitter will make you like him even more, if you don’t already follow it :)
Really? I think it's made me like him less.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
He comes across to me as
entirely genuine, which is in direct contrast to most of the other handful of ‘celebrity’ twitter accounts that I follow, of which many come across as pretty heavily filtered for the public. Past that, I guess I get a pretty positive vibe from the guy.
I won’t exactly be looking for stock tips or life lessons from it, but still – how often does it suck to learn that a sports player you like is just a total ass in real life, etc :P
Dont get me wrong...
I like the guy alot before and after following him. He’s just wasted alot of my time sorting through his 50 meaningless posts a day.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, no argument there, it's a lot of posts :)
I put twitter out to google reader, makes it a little easier to filter through a bunch of posts quickly. I had to drop questlove from mine for that exact reason, even though he seems pretty chill too.
I think the problem is that in real life
I would hate a 24 year old professional athlete. But when you don’t have to listen to his every thought you forget that. Then I follow Adam Jones on the Twitter and I’m like, “oh, right.”
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Negative
Jones’ twitter hasn’t made me like him at all. Maybe he could give it up for a while and work at not swinging at every breaking ball he sees.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Totally agree
I had already mentioned I had to “unfollow” him because he was driving me insane with his pointless drivel.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 13, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Besides, you have Stacey to filter out all the good stuff for you.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Good Sickels list
Brandon Snyder sure fell far. Anyone know much about Joseph Mahoney? 2012 callup perhaps?
Also, where did Erbe go?
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Erbe is in the land of misfit injured pitching prospects
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Thanks. Ugh.
Found an answer from Sickels’ top 50 2010 in review from October
41) Brandon Erbe, RHP, Orioles: 5.73 ERA with 50/22 K/BB in 71 innings in Triple-A, 86 hits. Ugly numbers, season ended early with shoulder problems. Status unclear.
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
He's chillin with Billy Rowell.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
nobody wants a brandon-in-the-box!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
by zknower on Dec 13, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was really glad he was convinced to bump Britton up to an A-
not that it makes any actual difference, but it made me feel a little better about the farm system.
There is actual hype around Britton
I’m a little worried about his apparent lack of deception. But I’m def looking forward to seeing a LHP with a sinker in an O’s uniform
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Mahoney
had a great batting line last year. However, he’s a 24 yr old 1B in AA, good athlete, huge guy, good power. He doesn’t walk a lot and he had a high BABIP last year. Good prospect, but not great because of his age, lack of defensive value, and the fact that he doesn’t have any real outstanding tools.
From an ESPN article discussing the various happenings at the Winter Meetings:
J.J. Hardy (Orioles) Last year’s Orioles left side of the infield averaged a home run every 71 at-bats and a walk every 25. Hardy and Mark Reynolds netted a homer every 22 at-bats and a walk every eight.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
That's a fantastic stat.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Absolutely
This team is bursting with potential, and while it in all likelihood won’t be enough to surpass NY and Bos, if we can beat up on the other divisions, and the weakened Rays and inconsistent Jays, it could be a surprisingly good team.
edit
and while itin all likelihoodwon’t be enough to surpass NY and Bos, if we can beat up on the other divisions, and the weakened Rays and inconsistent Jays, it could be a surprisingly good team.
I’m pretty excited for this team, and I think they might even be close to 500. I know those are some crazy expectations!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I'm expecting right around .500
but who knows, maybe Sabathia will eat Teixeira, and A-Rod, in a fit of roid rage, commits murder-suicide on Jeter and himself. The Red Sox, with the Yankees forfeiting their season, see no reason to play any more, leaving the division for the O’s to take.
by YeahDonnie on Dec 13, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land
Also known as slightly ahead of the Blue Jays.
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by Stacey on Dec 13, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Slightly ahead of the Blue Jays...
…does have a nice ring to it!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I'm not sure how good the Rays will be this year.
I guess it depends if a Garza trade happens and what they get.
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by James (Lost in Boston) on Dec 13, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
They will be bad
65-70 wins. The bullpen is gone, the rotation is shaky, especially if Garza is dealt. I would think he’d get them prospects as opposed to any significant MLB ready talent. Shields is over-hyped. They lost the most important part to their offense in Crawford, and they will suffer like we did when B-Rod was out, but worse. They also lost their biggest power threat and important run producer in Pena. Other than Longoria, nobody in their lineup scares me. Upton has failed to live up to his expectations. The Rays are going to fall off big time.
wow
that’s a crazy lowball on the AL East champs. They lost a bullpen (fungible) and a lousy 1Bman and their second-best player. So, WORST CASE they lost like ten wins total. That doesn’t count what they get from guys developing or whoever replaces Crawford and Pena. Which puts them in the 85 range. That’s a far cry from the Orioles brand of stink.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Their entire offense relies on speed and moving runners
Crawford was a bigger part of that than most people realize. The bullpen was their biggest strength last year, and probably their biggest weakness this upcoming year. I don’t see how they produce runs on the same level as last year without Crawford and Pena. If I remember correctly, they had one of the lower batting averages in the league, and unless they can somehow replicate their style last year with new, unproven players, I see a major falloff. The rotation, especially if Garza is gone, won’t be anywhere close to enough to overcome all their new deficiencies.
I'll bite
For the “need for speed” argument, I counter that the Rays were a top ten team in on base percentage and hit about the same number of home runs as the Texas Rangers, and that while they did in fact lead abseball with 170 stolen bases, even taking Crawford out and giving his 46 to Boston would leave Tampa in the top ten running teams in baseball and still well ahead of their divisional foes.
As for the bullpen being their biggest strength, the Rays scored the third most runs in baseball last year, so I’ll go with their offense as their primary weapon. But seriously, that was a pretty strong balanced team. Losing one major cog is going to hurt, but hurt them by 30 games? No way. No way in hell.
P.S. I also think you have the Orioles somewhat too high, though I’m not sure if you’re counting on a specific 1Bman or not?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Crawford was worth ~6 WAR last year, Pena ~1.
They’re not gonna lose 30 more games next year than last year.
How does WAR translate to wins? (honest question)
The team itself is just not the same without Crawford. I’d imagine they are going to lose more than 6 games beyond last year without him.
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by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
It's wins to wins
http://saberlibrary.com/misc/war/
That explains it better than I can, but yeah, the Rays without Carl Crawford on their team last year would have been expected to win 6 less games.
Not exactly
because someone else would be playing in his place, and its not necessarily a replacement level player. Desmond Jennings won’t be a 6 win player, but he won’t be 0 or negative either.
yeah, i know, I should have clarified I guess,
if the Rays had picked up some random easily replacement player, like a minor leaguer or journeyman outfielder, than they would have been expected to win 6 less games. Of course if they put Jennings in, who’s a highly rated prospect, that number would go down.
He might be
But the Rays are still going to lose at least 6 more games than they did last year.
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by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions
equivalent
but that all depends on how Crawford’s replacement plays, right? No way to know about that right now.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
They did have some luck with scoring.
.342 wOBA w/RISP, .312 w/ bases empty. My computer’s acting up now that I want to compare them to other teams’ differentials in those situations, but that seems like a significant amount of luck.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I am counting on the O's signing LaRoche
or at least D Lee. Maybe I have them too high regardless, but hey that’s part of being a fan. Remember how fast the Rays went from horrible to good? It can happen just as fast, despite WAR, UZR, etc. I may be wrong, but I really see a MAJOR falloff happening. Less baserunning abilities, less homeruns, less hit and run opportunities, bullpen gone. I’d say they’re losing more than 1 major cog. There’s nothing I’d like more than the O’s and Rays both being good and knocking the Yankees out of the playoff race, but I think the Rays are in for many tough years.
Also, you never know what injuries will occur
with such a young team, a couple key injuries hurts more.
I remember someone talking about bold predictions in the last day or two, so I figured I’d make one. I stand by it though. They may not drop 30 games, but they’ll at least be sub .500
So you project 4th place
Ahead of the Rays not the Jays
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by James (Lost in Boston) on Dec 13, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
I hope for 3rd
I think it’s possible, because the Jays are so inconsistent, but if I had to guess right now, I’d say
1. Yankees 100 wins
2. Red Sox 92 wins
3. Blue Jays 83 wins
4. Orioles 79 wins
5. Rays 68 wins.
The Rays are going to be much better than that IMO
Why?
Price, Garza, Davis, Hellickson will be in their rotation and their lineup should be OK:
Jaso C
Brignac SS
Longoria 3B
Dan Johnson 1B
Zobrist RF
Upton CF
??? DH
Rodriguez 2B
Jennings LF
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I did forget about Hellickson
although he’s still very young and probably won’t make a huge impact. My estimation of the falloff is partly based on Garza leaving. I don’t see Price having the same year, still good, just less dominant. Shields is garbage, in my opinion, and everyone else is mediocre. The bullpen will blow a lot of games, and the offense will lose 100 runs. I know this is a crazy prediction, but stranger things have happened.
I think the Sox will win the division, the Yanks get the WC,
and the Rays will win somewhere between 87-93 games
that's certainly how it looks on paper to me
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
they still have an awesome group of starters
and Desmond Jennings is basically a young Car Crawford. He won’t be as great as Crawford as a rookie next year, but he’s still got a ton of talent. And Longo is still a beast.
Luke Scott made $4.05M in 2010
How much of a raise do you think he’ll get? I have never paid attention to that kind of thing before. $6M? More?
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i'm guessing...
4.875-5.25
20% bump is pretty standard, no?
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by j.q. higgins on Dec 13, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I'd be really surprised to see less than $6.
Usually, the first arbitration year yields about 40% of the player’s likely FA salary, 60% in arb year two, and 80% in arb year three. So it’s more like multiplying by 1.5 to go from arb year 1 to arb year 2, which would put Luke right around $6. And with the year he had, that could get up to more like $6.5.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Guts is in Arb 2 according to B-R
He made $3M, so you’d guess he’ll be at about 4.5M in 2011?
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Hm...
harder to tell with Guts. He’s been a ~2.5 win pitcher three times in four years, so his $3M last year seems like a slight underpay due to his unfortunate ’09. So while $4.5M would follow the year-to-year formula, the bounceback year might push him to $5M or so, I think.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Luke was a Super 2
which means 4 years of arbitration. Not sure how that affects increases, probably favorably since he’ll be compared to those in his service class.
Maury Brown is your guy here, he wrote this article which (apparently, my POS w*rk comp won’t open it) includes a PDF with arb comparisons and histories.
Off the bat, I’d say Luke will get $5.2-6M and Guts will get $4-4.7M, but it all depends on the numbers that the agents and team exchange.
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Huh.
For some reason, I thought last year was Luke’s first arb year. Thanks for the correction and linkage. Super Twos generally go something like 20%-40%-60%-80%, so in theory, Luke should still be going from 40% to 60% this year. I’ll think I’ll stick with my $6-6.5M guess, but I could see it coming in just under $6M because of the arb pattern.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Seems reasonable
Arb raises, in terms of percentage of previous salary, are highly variable. He might go higher then $6M, considering he set career highs in all of the right things (H/HR/2B/OBP) and led the team in HR. OTOH, he played mostly DH, which reduces his value.
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Yeah, the position thing makes it particularly tricky.
He can play a good-enough to solid left field (depending on how much stock you put in the metrics), but he’s stuck at DH. So does he get paid like an average-defending LF, or a DH with the same bat? I dunno.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
He's listed as DH in the arb report
which I’m reading on my iphone. He’s the only DH I can find.
People with similar service time and salary from last year:
Ryan Ludwick (RF) went from $3.7M to $5.45M
Felix Hernandez went from $3.7M to $6.5M (before his extension when he went to $7.8M in the first year)
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
Chris Ray wants back in...
There seems to be at least some level of mutual interest between the Orioles and their former closer, Chris Ray, the Baltimore Sun’s Jeff Zrebiec writes.
Ray, non-tendered by the Giants, had 33 saves for the Orioles in 2006, with 16 more in 2007 before missing all of 2008 after undergoing Tommy John surgery. He was terrible in 2009 and traded to the Rangers for Kevin Millwood last offseason.
After appearing in 35 games for the Rangers (with a 2-0 record and 3.41 ERA), he was sent to San Francisco (where he was 3-0 with a 4.13 ERA in 28 appearances) in the Benjie Molina trade.
Ray shares an agent, Mark Pieper, with Koji Uehara, who is taking his physical today in order to re-sign with the Orioles.
In an e-mail with Zrebiec, Ray said, “Baltimore will always be a special place for me and of course I would be interested in returning to the Orioles. I see they have made some nice additions to their lineup already this winter.”
Ray’s agent said he’s heard from several teams, but doesn’t expect anything so
he fits the bill...
he has big league closing experience.
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by j.q. higgins on Dec 13, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Being traded for a mentor...
…increases your mentorship abilities. Not to mention he has a championship resume!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Minor league deal with a ST invite?
If he’d accept, I’d offer.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
ooof...
i get one of those feelings in the pit of my stomach when i think about taking ANY bar exam again. good times!
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-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 13, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
What's the diff?
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
The patent bar is a seperate exam that tests Patent and Trademark Office rules and procedures
Its not nearly as difficult as the real bar exam, but its one more thing I’d rather not deal with.
I was thinking about where the O's stand
in the entire American League. See if you agree
New York-Worse
Boston-Worse
Toronto-Better
Tampa-Worse
Cleveland-Better
Kansas City-Better
Detroit-Better
Minnesota-Worse
Chicago-Worse
Oakland-Worse
Anaheim-Better
Texas-Worse
Seattle-Better
So I have the Orioles better than six teams in the American League, and I think I was a little bit generous with Anaheim and Detroit. Last year, Oakland finished ahead of six AL teams and was 81-81, so I predict the Orioles will be 81-81 in 2011.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
I see no flaws in that logic at all.
Let’s go .500!!!
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
its not perfect
but i’ve heard worse methods of prediction before. I’d be interested to see how consistently Xth place historically correleated to Y number of wins. Maybe I’ll play around with excel some when i get home.
What about interleague play?
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by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
are we really...
better than Anaheim but worse than Oakland? at first glance I’d have it the other way around. Oakland seems a bit like Seattle from last year right now, they’re building around pitching and defense but have absolutely no offensive threats at all. Anaheim had a bad record last year, but they were missing Morales for most of the season, got -2 wins from Brandon Wood (who certainly won’t be a starter next year), have some promising young guys like Bourjos (who, despite his terrible offense and playing only 50 games, was worth almost 2 WAR), and I think their pitching will be better too.
jon heyman said this morning that the phillies are uninvolved
http://www.metsblog.com/2010/12/13/phillies-are-not-mystery-team-for-lee/
but maybe thats changed
I'm pretty sure that because he's not a Boras client,
Jon Heyman doesn’t know who and who is not involved.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
Best Hot Stove tweet ever?
Mystery Team makes offer to Unknown Free Agent. Unable to confirm details.
-KLaw
by kba26 on Dec 13, 2010 4:13 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I concur
Editor at Baltimore Beatdown - SB Nation Baltimore Ravens Blog
by Zachary Beard on Dec 13, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
See also @MysteryTeamGM
@MysteryTeamGM @keithlaw You can bet that we made an offer that may or may not make the other involved teams raise their offer.
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
MysteryTeamGM is so silly
Not sure how they always manage to be better than the Orioles. I don’t even know who plays for them!
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
great potential band name.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 13, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Koji's officially re-signed, btw
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
...and there was much rejoicing.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 13, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
COMPLETELY OT: A LOTR fan defends Peter Jackson's movies
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Good Article
Like the author of this article, I was “a frequent visitor to middle earth” long before the Peter Jackson films. I also enjoyed the films even if some of the changes he made drove me nuts. Did we really need elves at Helms Deep Peter?
by O! on Dec 13, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions
The elves replaced the Huorns
the presence/nature of which probably couldn’t have been explained on film in a way that anybody who hadn’t read the books would really understand/enjoy.
I mean, imagine trying to explain it to one of your non reader friends
“Well no, they’re not Ents, they’re like halfway between Ent and tree.”
“So they’re Ents.”
“No.”
“They looked like Ents..”
See what I mean? Walking trees are already going to be hard enough for the average moviegoer to accept, but two different KINDS of walking trees?
So bring Elves in; it still emphasizes how desperate the battle at Helm’s Deep is; they need help if they’re going to make it. Plus it made for a cool moment. I would rather it had been The Grey Company, but I’ll take it.
The only change that bugged me, really, was the changes made to Faramir’s character, though in the end he wound up in the same place.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
And to be clear, I am as "purist" as they come.
I had read The Silmarillion by the time I was 11. I’ve read the all the unfinished tales, most of the Christopher Tolkien collected volumes, the major biographies and critical appraisals of Tolkien, lots of Tolkien’s own non Middle-Earth output, etc. I am as big a Tolkien nut as they come short of those who pursue Tolkien studies in advanced degrees (and believe me, I ALMOST did that, but somehow Irish and American poetry won out). And in spite of all that I see no reason not to love PJ’s movies, and I eagerly await The Hobbit.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
I liked the films plenty; I just found additions annoying
I guess everyone has their own things they don’t like.
Subtracting or condensing I’m OK with as its just in the nature of the medium that its hard to cover as much ground in a film as a novel, but the additions seem to me unnecessary,
by O! on Dec 13, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
I could not get through FOTR as a book
Tried, couldn’t do it. Same with “The Satanic Verses.” Not that the two books are remotely related except for my inability to stay with them and not be bored to tears.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Agreed
The book was so boring. Movie wasn’t any better.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 13, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
LOVED the movies.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
I'm just about to start reading The Satanic Verses.
Been meaning to get to it for years. It’s finally managed to make it to my book on-deck circle.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 13, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Be warned - there's about 73 subplots
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
I just cannot imagine being bored by Lord of the Rings.
I truly can’t comprehend it.
Buuuuut you’re talking to a guy who has read Ulysses five times (twice it wasn’t even for a class) and spent hours today trying to make teenagers love Dubliners even a little bit, so my definition of “boring” is, admittedly, different than most.
But for people who might be interested in fantasy but can’t handle Tolkien’s Victorian Travelogue style, I can make suggestions.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
me too, absolutely loved Lord of the Rings movies.
i want to spend an entire day watching all three extended versions in one sitting but i haven’t gotten around to it.
Spewing negativity.
by birdman on Dec 13, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We tried it one time in my shop while in Iraq
and we made it 2 hours into TFOTR and gave up.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
I've done it.
With wife and friends. A glorious 12 hour day of food, beer, and our favorite film.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think I'll ever be able to do it.
I have, however, watched Episodes I-VI in one day.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
That, I haven't done.
Episodes IV to VI, sure. But all 6? No.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Stop what you are doing
and go do it. Right now.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Grading papers has to come first.
Until Friday. Then, sweet sweet release.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit, I go through Next Wednesday
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Private school.
One of our few advantages; longer vacations.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
We had a drinking game in college with IV-VI
Never made it past Jabba’s palace without passing out
by O! on Dec 13, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
We had a drinking game, too.
It was called “turn Empire on and drink selves stupid because we are too nerdy to get dates.”
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
Sure that was the root motivation; but we were so nerdy we needed rules!
The one I recall being the most frequent cause for drinking was drink every time Luke speaks and you think “shut up farm boy.”
by O! on Dec 13, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
Our rules were contained in the West End Games
Star Wars RPG. Which we played. A lot. Usually till 3 or 4 A.M. We were really, really, really nerdy.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Dude we knew that as soon as you told us you read the LOTR books.
But we’re all nerds here. In one way or another.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
my friends and I do that every year or two
with a lot of food (stuffed mushrooms, stew, pulled pork, and so forth) and it’s always a ton of nerdy fun.
But we failed at it many times and needed to institute the unfortunate no-alcohol rule.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Put it this way
I can’t get through most Hemingway because I have to go back and count the lines to figure out who’s talking.
And Tolkien’s invented names for damn near anything makes LOTR seem like you’re reading in a foreign language at times.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Apparently he fleshed out the Elvish language completely.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 13, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Languages.
In fact, the languages came first; the stories of Middle-Earth were created as a way to build a history for the languages to coalesce around.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
Impressive.
But I was under the impression he first wrote The Hobbit as a story for his son then the rest of Middle Earth grew from that.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 13, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
He had been interested in languages
and developed them while at school. He started writing stories that became part of Middle Earth (mostly about Turin and Beren and Luthien) during WWI, well pre-dating The Hobbit – which he did produce for his kids, but didn’t actually really conceive of as part of his “legendarium” from the beginning, only when he had to write sequels.
I will try to stop nerding the board now.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
Do it to it man!
I read the whole Lord of the Rings series at least twice a year from like 1997-2005
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
How do you feel about Orlando Bloom reprising his role as Legolas
and Kate Blanchett as Galadriel even though neither was involved in The Hobbit? Obviously no one yet knows what kind of role it will be, but you would have to imagine that if they are going through all the trouble to bring them back that it would be more than just a cameo.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
I look at it this way
If they are going to include any of the stuff done by the White Council, which is happening in the background of The Hobbit (chasing Sauron-as-the-Necromancer out of Dol Guldur) Galadriel must be present, musn’t she? I think they may go there.
As for Legolas, well he was certainly alive at the time The Hobbit takes place. Though he isn’t mentioned by name, it’d be odd if the son of King Thranduil didn’t show up, wouldn’t it?
Are they present by name in the novel? No. But can a case be made that in the narrative as established by the previous films, it would be stranger for them not to appear.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Hey don't ask me.
I haven’t read all of that stuff. I was just wondering about your opinion since you seem pretty into it. From what I’ve read, it really seems like this is a publicity stunt and that the story is getting changed to bring back the big names.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Of course I would imagine that most people
who will see the movie haven’t read the books and therefore they are the target audience.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think the books might have a higher readership than you're estimating.
Especially “The Hobbit”
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 13, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
But see, I'm saying the story doesn't have to be changed
in any invasive way to include Galadriel or Legolas. In fact Legolas would definitely HAVE to be present in some events of The Hobbit, just not mentioned by name. And again, there are events that happen in the background of The Hobbit, when Gandalf leaves the company, that Galadriel was present for. So if they include any of those events, including her is a necessity.
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Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Ok. Like I said I don't know and I wanted someones opinion
who does know.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
If I recall correctly Saruman was the head of the white council
Any word if Chris Lee is in the Hobbit?
by O! on Dec 13, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
My guess is Saruman won't appear
because Christopher Lee was pissed about being cut out of the theatrical cut of RotK.
My guess is if they approach him he’ll appear. And while Saruman was head of the Istari, I actually think technically Galadriel was head of the “White Council,” as distinct from, but including the wizards.
At any rate…including/not including Saruman will be a tricky question. I’d love it if they did, AND if they showed Saruman before he was corrupted. “Once he was as great as his fame made him,” Aragorn says of him in The Two Towers.
"Might as well just win this game." - Adam Jones, 4/17/2008
Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
Good point with the White Council
Off screen in the novel but happens at the same time
by O! on Dec 13, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have to see it
A Legolas cameos makes sense since they do spend a lot of time with his father and wood elves in general, but hard to see where Galadriel would come in. Perhaps as a narrator?
by O! on Dec 13, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
OT: In Terps football news
Vanderbilt’s first choice for their vacant head coaching positions, Gus Malzahn, has decided to stay at Auburn, and now Maryland assistant James Franklin is the front runner. If they offer him the job and he takes it, this is just great news for the Terps.
That’s one less mistake from the Debbie Yow regime in naming him a successor that we don’t have to live with anymore.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
At least they wouldn't have to pay Franklin that insane
amount of millions he is due if he doesn’t get the head coaching job.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Thought it was just $1 million
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Ok so it isn't millions
but that is still an extremely high buyout for a coordinator at a program of Maryland’s caliber.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
That's true
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
And here's where I announce my standing as 2nd VP of the Debbie Yow Fan Club
Given the mess she inherited, I thought she did a damn good job.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Well, obvi
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
I don't know
trying to run Gary Williams out of town kind of left a sour taste in my mouth.
"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks
That was never going to happen
and she knew it. But she built UMd into a ACC powerhouse in many non-revenue sports. College athletics is more than men’s basketball and football. And she paid off the tremendous amount of debt she inherited, but a new basketball facility and oversaw the massive (if unneeded) expansion of the FB stadium.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Frett Barve =/= Ironman
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 8:54 PM EST reply actions
Joe Buck
Do not compare Gehrig and Farve any more please
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:05 PM EST reply actions
Is that game still on?
Ravens-Texans. baby. Watch the varsity play some time.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Yeah, i mean, im a giants fan but I still got the Ravens on in the background
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Understandable if you're actually a fan of one of the teams.
Carry on.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Oh Sepp Blatter
“We open everything to everybody and I think there shall not be any discrimination [in Qatar during the World Cup] against any human beings, being on this side or that side, left or right or whatever.” But, uh, gay people probably shouldn’t have sex during the World Cup, just to be safe.
Women probably shouldn't go either.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
And totally hide your beers
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
And your young boys.
Too far?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Phillies revealed as "mystery team" bidding for Lee
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Damnit, thought it was the Orioles
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
who ARE these mysteroius phillies?!?
by thewaywardO on Dec 13, 2010 10:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wait, the Giants have the ball again, tight.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:14 PM EST reply actions
Alright, let's be honest, if you take a girl to Pizza Hut for a first date, you aint getting a second one.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:18 PM EST reply actions
I prefer doing dramatic reading of To The Lightouse whilst eating overcooked thin crust pizza.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Virginia Woolf probably wins you some points with the ladies.
I would go with Mrs. Dalloway, though.
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by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
boo-ya
Just submitted two college apps. Hi fives all around!
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:34 PM EST reply actions
college smollege
all anyone really needs is a trust fund and an etrade account. I don’t know why more people don’t do it that way.
Good for you.
College is exciting and getting those damn apps done is a huge weight off the shoulders. Congrats and good luck.
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Adam Jones is the tits.
by KenDixonFanClub on Dec 13, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
mazel tov.
which colleges?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Northeastern and American U.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
excellent!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Clay Aiken thinks the Favre streak is the greatest streak in sports.
He can go fuck himself.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions
I don't know man.
Cal is my hero, but Favre’s streak went about 18 seasons versus Cal’s almost 17. Yea they don’t play nearly as many games, but football is a much more physical sport and there are many more injuries. It takes one tough SOB to do what Favre has done. Hell he has been playing the last two weeks or whatever with a broken ankle. The argument could go both ways. Of course I am assuming that Cal’s streak would be your choice. I’d probably go with DiMaggio’s hitting streak myself.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
You could have just ended with "Cal is my hero"
’Nuff Fucking Said
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Fair enough.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't Favre addicted to painkillers for half his streak?
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 13, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
and didn't Cal Ripken have to punch out Kevin Costner during his streak?
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i predict the Vikings will draft/trade for/sign a quarterback
by thewaywardO on Dec 13, 2010 10:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions
soo if the Phillies get Cliff Lee...
BoSox vs. Phils becomes pretty strong favorite for WS matchup, amirite?
vegas'll think so
me, I’m not so sure…
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Not sure of Boston, Philly or either?
I would have to think that Philly would become a near lock with that pitching staff.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 13, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
boston
they’re mortal locks to get into the playoffs, but there are a lot of teams that could outpitch them (at least looking ten months into the future) in a short series.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I kinda need Andre to step it up
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions
tell me something I don't know!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
How can you possible call a pass play on 3rd and 2 with less than 3 minutes?
especially when Houston has no time outs? Even a failed rush runs another 30 seconds off the clock.
which would end the game at this point
fuuuuck they are stupid
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
somebody's gonna have to get some serious reaming tomorrow for sure
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Please, just one pass to Andre Johnson
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 11:38 PM EST reply actions
YES
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN YOUR #1 OVERALL CAMDEN CHAT FANTASY FOOTBALL PLAYER, AFTER MY FIRST ROUND BYE, LET THE PLAYOFFS BEGIN!
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions
We need to have a WS of CC fantasy football
after the 2 CC leagues are over. Top teams from each league. Battle to the death.
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holy shit, this game
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 11:43 PM EST reply actions
ravens D is embarassing
Andre Johnson looked completely uncovered on that TD pass.
the D couldn't stop molasses from driving down the field right now
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
hahahaha
well that molasses is costing me my fantasy game :-\
BREAKING NEWS?
Phillies Agree To Sign Cliff Lee
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 13, 2010 11:58 PM EST reply actions
best two minutes of the offseason?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
via MLBTradeRumors
The wait is over. Cliff Lee has agreed to sign with the Phillies, according to MLB.com’s T.R. Sullivan. Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News hears it’s a five-year deal (Twitter link).
Lee, Roy Halladay, Roy Oswalt and Cole Hamels should give the Phillies a historically good rotation and the Yankees and Rangers will have to look elsewhere for an ace.
The Yankees’ final offer was for $150MM over seven years, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (Twitter link).
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/agree-to-sign-cliff-lee.html
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
5 years lol. But the Nats offered 7 and so did the Yanks. And what about the mystery team?!
Hotstove has gotten out of control.
Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News hears it’s a five-year deal (Twitter link).
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
that's strange, I thought he would sign with the Orioles
But at least he’s not a Yankee, or given future wild card implications, not in the AL.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I think the Izturis knocked him down to an F minus!
(actually I think he’s done well this off-season)
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
wowowowowowowowowow
sick play by Josh Wilson, won me my fantasy game =D
Terrapin Power!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Winners and Losers of Cliff Lee:
Rangers: Losers, lost multiple prospects, made it to the WS, but lost.
Yankees: Mf-ing losers
Phillies: Winners, Cliff Lee + a couple of prospects
Mariners: Winners, Justin Smoak and Josh Leuke
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:04 AM EST reply actions
Yankers didn't lose anything
except face, and maybe Pttettitte
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 14, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
They lost plenty of face this offseason.
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
That's a good thing
"I hear the question, and I'm not going to answer it," Gregg Williams
by CoachOfEarl on Dec 14, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
They lost plenty
Some of the bad karma is finally sticking. Suddenly the Yankees look vulnerable. Sure, they have some offense, but after CC and Hughes, they have no pitching to speak of. It would appear Lee noticed. Maybe the rest of the world will too.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
They also lost in the fact that Boston has gotten much better and the MFY haven't done anything.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
drink more beer
they def. lost more than one face
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by the fix is in on Dec 14, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
balt-to-mooooore
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Dec 14, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Joe Blanton will now be available
Surely, Andy will inquire since he’s gotta have his veteran innings eater.
Spewing negativity.
Gonna have to give him away with that $17mil he is owed over the next two years.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
at that price
teams will happily take him provided that the Phils don’t demand a good prospect.
Spewing negativity.
Yea that's what I meant by
going to have to give him away. Blanton could fetch a decent prospect under normal circumstances, but now that he is expendable and comes with a large contract they are gonna have to dump him for close to nothing. Unless they eat a big portion of his contract, then they might get a decent return.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
After all of that talk about going to the highest bidder too.
He probably won’t be performing at this level in 5 years and won’t get another shot at that $50+ million. He must really hate the Yankees.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
anyone who hates the Yankees enough...
to leave that much money on the table is okay in my book =D
He earned a lot of props in my book.
Nice to see someone who isn’t all about the money.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Yea but it's not like the difference between $100 and $150 million is negligible.
It’s a huge difference. If he was all about the money then there is only one choice out of the two offers.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
too fucking bad
they can go fuck themselves.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I'm thinking about what Stacey said that one time.
At one point is there so much money that it doesn’t really matter anymore? I mean, I don’t know what I’d personally do with $100 million, so I’d think that would be more than enough money for me.
I made that argument to a friend about Werth
He argued that $50 M is the difference between ensuring 2-3 generations of your family never has to worry about money and ensuring that nobody even remotely related to you ever has to worry about money.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Like I said though $50 million is a lot of money.
That extra amount is another generation of your family that doesn’t need to worry about money.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
Hell yea.
And I guess like OsFan21 said below, it would probably be more like 2-3 generations depending on how many kids are getting popped out.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
I don't hold it against players who go for the most money
I mean, careers are relatively short and uncertain…
But how can you not love telling the Yankees to take their Confederate money (yeah I know … forget it, I’m on a roll) and stick it where the sun don’t shine?
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 14, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Lots of good hunting in PA
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by CoachOfEarl on Dec 14, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
There is a new easiest job in baseball...
…being the long reliever for the Phillies.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
What about being a middle reliever or setup man?
Last year Lee routinely went 8 and 9 innings, and still pitched great. Going that long so frequently, he still only allowed 16 walks (not counting intentionals).
Halladay has 9 complete games in each of the last three seasons.
Lee had 7 last year. That’s 16 complete games and 463 innings between the two of them. Hamels had 208.2 ip and Oswalt had 211.2 ip. Ri-fucking-diculous.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
That accounts for roughly 60% of innings pitched if you exclude any extra innings.
Add on whatever innings the fifth starter can give them and they practically don’t need a bullpen.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
When Hamels and Oswalt are your 3rd and 4th starters,
your top two are probably really good. Like, the two best in the league good. I assume it wouldn’t be the ballsiest of pre-season predictions to say the Phillies will have the best rotation in the majors.
Possibly the best rotation of all time.
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by Knubles and Bits on Dec 14, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
What a great day this has been,
Giants win, Ravens win, My fantasy team wins the #1 spot, I finish reading Waiting for Godot, Cliff Lee avoids not only the Rangers but the MFY.
It’s a orgasm lot of cool things!
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:29 AM EST reply actions
Bad news for the O's
With Cliff Lee going to the NL, you can go ahead and knock a few wins off those pre-season predictions.
.02
Fact:
Cliff Lee went to the NL only to avoid facing his bane, the Baltimore Orioles. See ya in the World Series, Cliff!
It kinda sealed it when Izturis re-signed
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by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 14, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
Fangraphs tries to project Markakis' 2011 campaign
Nick Markakis was one of the most valuable outfielders in baseball in 2008, impressing in all aspects of his game: hitting for average, getting on base, above-average power, good range, and a nice arm. He was rewarded with a big, fat contract extension. In the two seasons. In the two seasons since signing that contract, however, Markakis has been just barely better than average according to FanGraphs’ WAR. Offensively, his power has taken a dip, as has his walk rate. Both UZR and DRS record his defensive range as declining relative to average. Markakis isn’t the only young (he just turned 27 in November) Oriole to disappoint the last couple of seasons, but he is the one with the biggest contract — indeed, who thought it would be iffy whether or not he would barely be "earning" the money at this point? Not me. I’m guessing there are a variety of strong opinions on Markakis out there, so let’s see how they are reflected in the fan balloting.
Link.
If you look at those UZR ratings or whatever
I'm sorry, but..
Halladay, Lee, Oswalt, and Hamels? Is that allowed? I’m glad he’s out of the AL and not a Yank, but this is getting a bit ridiculous. The rich get richer I guess.
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