Tuesday Bird Droppings
by duck on Dec 28, 2010 9:09 AM EST
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PrintOrioles Insider: Reviewing what the Orioles have left to do
Jeff Zrebiec does exactly that. Dude doesn't lie in his headlines. It's not like he really is writing about how to craft a good grocery list.
wayward wayback team timeshack and lukelOg - the wayward oriole
A look back at the Year in Luke Scott.
Showalter proved turning point in O's season | orioles.com: News
Nothing gets past a good beat writer, not even subtle details like this.
Steve Melewski: Roberts, Jones and Markakis at the top
Steve wants Adam Jones hitting second. And this is why sports writers don't get to fill out the lineup card.
The Royle Rundown: Look on the bright side, Ravens are in the playoffs
"I'm shocked to see that Maryland escaped the storm..." Get a map and come dig out my driveway from two feet of snow in Maryland, Jen. "[T]he Ravens clinched their third consecutive playoff berth with an impressive 20-10 victory in Cleveland on Sunday..." Impressive is about the last word I'd use to describe that effort. "[I]f LaRoche does not sign with the Orioles, it is not my fault. I can't believe I actually had to type that..." Actually, Jen, I'd be totally OK with assigning you 100% of the credit if he doesn't sign. You say it like it would be a bad thing.
Twitter / @Jon Heyman: the #orioles, who quietly ...
Jon Heyman, in the midst of a back-handed compliment to the O's front office, tells us the team is still pursuing Kevin Gregg.
Inside MLB End of Year Payrolls - The AL East (1999-10)
"Looking at data from 1999 to 2010, the gap between the top paying clubs (the Yankees #1 in every year of the study, and Red Sox #2, with the exception of 1999 when the Orioles claimed the spot), the gap between highest player payroll and lowest has grown considerably." In 1999 the gap between the Yankees and the lowest (Rays) was $54,130,504. By 2010 that gap has grown to $141,821,775."
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"Marty Cordova spends his days and night at the hospital, hanging on every word from the doctors and looking for hope wherever he can find it. His 15-year-old daughter was in a car accident and has been in a coma for 11 days." Earnest prayers go out to the former Orioles player, and wishes for a full recovery for his daughter. There but for the grace of God...
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duck?
soylent green?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Nah. Think about 30 years later
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
oh, huh...
milla.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, Milla.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Watched Exit Through the Gift Shop last night
it was pretty great…although I get the sense that Banksy is a great artist and everybody else in the movie (even before Mr. Brainwash) are total wannabes. The movie was awesome and weird and funny and cool, though.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
i got the same impression
except for invader. i liked him alot…
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 28, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Eh, Invader and Shepard Fairey have been around for a long time.
I think its hard to knock either of them too much. There were definitely a lot of copycats shown besides them and Banksy though.
I'm not a Shepard Fairey fan at all
Shepard Fairey is the Derek Jeter of street art. Famous, and with notable achievements, and terribly overrated.
Invader’s stuff is fun, but…Art? I dunno. I guess I’m not the person to answer that question, really. I do know this though: if the places I’ve lived had more street artists (as opposed to graffiti artists) they would be better places.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
shepard fairey
did the cover art for sage francis new album which i thought was cool but im really not a big fan..and tbh banksy seemed like he was a great artist back in the day when he was a mystery but idk seems to me “street art” has gotten crazy commercial and thats just bad news bears i think…not a fan.
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 28, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
yeah
at one point in the movie banksy says “It’s not about the money” but then when Mr. Brainwash cashes in, everybody is really upset. To borrow a line, “when they say ’it’s not about the money’, It is about the money, stupid”
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
i did some research a few days ago
looking for mr brainwash pieces just to see prices and 8 × 10′s were going for near 700 dollars.. i saw a 24x 24 piece that was near $2000. i couldnt justify spending that kinda cash for a picture of madonna with a pain mustace and a campbells soup spray can.
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 28, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
banksy's the fucking man
We’ve got this massive coffee table book with a lot of his stuff in it. That guy has talent.
Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
by danielreese05 on Dec 28, 2010 2:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I'm sure Bansky loves the thought
of his art in what i’m guessing is a very expensive coffee table book
That dude in Jen's comments is a freakin' genius!!!!
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
you're bill on da shore.
I know, I figured it all out.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Dec 28, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
You know, you could have left it alone and let it be funny by itself
But, no, you HAD to ruin it.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
looks like you've created quite a mess
its kind of scary how uninformed she is
Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
by danielreese05 on Dec 28, 2010 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Oh, I am SOOOOO done over there
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
no room for you over there, duckman
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
This seems to be a trend.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 28, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
At least this time...
I’m getting crap for something I actually wrote…
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
She would rather lose her eyes to kitchen utensils than study our state?
I’m sure her employers will be thrilled to hear they’ve hired such an obtuse beeyotch.
And, really, way to endear yourself to your potential audience.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Reading through Melewski's article
it seems like the only real evidence he brings up is April 2009, and he fails to mention Jonesy hitting .393 on balls in play. Whoops! It is true that he had 9 walks in 90 plate appearances (and it would take him 316 plate appearances in 2010 to match that illustrious total)…which just goes to show you: small sample sizes are important. Keep Jonesy in the 6th hole until he earns a promotion.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
I was a bit disappointed in Steve in this effort
He’s usually better than this.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
abso...
lutely.
he also fails to mention that while adam jones may be speedy, he’s not really a very good baserunner. better than pie, for sure, but that’s not saying much.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
but the question does remain
what should the top of the lineup look like? I wish I was more certain about what we are going to get out of Crazy Luke Scott this year.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
only thing of which i am sure...
1. roberts
2. nick the stick
frankly, if 2009 reimold were available, he’d be an enticing 3.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
I know what I don't want
I don’t want Reynolds as #4 and I don’t want Jones as #2
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
why no reynolds at four?
he’s your most power by far, and won’t erase too many runners with the old GIDP.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
but all those rallykilling home runs and base clogging walks!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I know I'm not supposed to care about K's
I know that. Really, I do. But damn, TWO HUNDRED of them the last 2 years straight? TWO HUNDRED????
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
let's think about it like this
just count the outs. In 2010, Reynolds made 405 outs (by my count) with a low BABiP, and Luke Scott, who is I suppose the only other real option, made 327 outs with a normal BABiP. And Reynolds had 79 more plate appearances than Luke (which is more opportunity to make outs). The difference is not all that great.
Of course, you probably realize that and still just feel wrong with the Ks.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
Pretty much
Old prejudices die hard, even in the face of relevant data.
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
shoot, hit post too soon
Last thing to add:
But the other thing is that the Ks are going to be somewhere in the lineup. That’s unavoidable. Might as well leverage the power as much as possible to maximize his benefit to the team.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
It's got to be...
1. B-Rob
2. Nick
3 or 4. Reynolds
3 or 4. Unsigned 1B/DH
I know Nick should be at 3 on paper, but he’s just hitting like a 2 nowadays.
Depending on who we sign and how they compare to Reynolds, he could be 3 or 4. Andrew’s right, he uppercuts and never really grounds out (which is why he K’s so much). He also walks a lot though, so I could see plenty of sac flies and very few GIDP’s if we put him at 3. And when the K comes it won’t end the inning with RISP.
"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 28, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
why 3 on paper?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
Because my ideal Nicky Markakis
Hits more homers and drives in more runs. He’s hitting like a 2 for the past few years and that’s fine and maybe that’s what he is. But when we paid him all that money I envisioned him with more power and two true table setters in front of him in the order.
"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 28, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
well...
why shouldn’t the best hitters on the team get the most PAs?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
You're right. The Cardinals should bat Pujols leadoff.
"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 28, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
no, but...
see here.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Pull Gregg's F*UCKING offer
He doesnt want to play here because this is the best contract out there right now, so take the high road and have a backbone and pull the offer. Im tired of being the red-headed step child. Grow some balls and have some integrity.
"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'"
Earl Weaver
Jen, wow, you're a professional...
“I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state.”
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
sounded like...
she was sorta channeling willie don, there.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Another reason to dislike her
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
But at least I have a new sig line for a while
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
Grrrrr...
And I’ll leave it at that. Even I might get banned from here if I share my unvarnished opinion.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Ding ding ding
Jen, I have no idea of what your response will be to this, but, having someone be rude to you does not justify a rude response. Yes, you cover Baltimore, but to state that you basically have no regard for the state of Maryland, (regardless of the attitudes of “some” of its residents) is, shall we say, mean. I would be surprised if more than 25% of your readers actually live within the boundaries of Baltimore City, so, please cut the rest of Maryland some slack.
Happy New Year!
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Dec 28, 2010 10:00 AM EST reply actions
Her response was priceless to that.
Keep diggin’ that hole, Jen. Keep diggin’ that hole.
My response is “I don’t care.”
Getting a map and studying Maryland has nothing to do with my Orioles & Ravens coverage or how I feel about people who live in different parts of the state.
Oh, and now she’s retroactively editing her own errors and typos, like they never happened. Nice
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
And now she's agreeing with Hooiser through "required"
Hit the nail on head Hoosier.
_______________________________
Yes he did. Happy holidays :)
Wat.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Dec 28, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
I mean, do you think she has like, supervisors who actually pay attention to her blog?
If I had a subordinate who was actively alienating that percentage of the fanbase that happens to really love Baltimore and/or Maryland (has to cover at least 2/3 of O’s fans, probably more) I wouldn’t be particularly pleased.
On the other hand, I’m known for righteous Baltimore indignation for a reason.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting
What does the provincial-ness of Baltimore fans have to do with her Orioles & Ravens coverage?
Whats the over/under on her “resiging” from MASN? April 1st?
by BirdFanInPhilly on Dec 28, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
I really wish you guys hadn't introduced me to one Ms. Jen Royle and her Rundown
Not only would I respect the sports opinions of a 5 year old kid who likes the colors purple and orange more than a grown woman who isn’t from here, gets a job here, and now is magically the biggest Ravens/O’s fan in the world…
But now I know that she hates Maryland AND she’s a self-conscious facist who edits her own comments section to make herself look as good as possible to those who haven’t read it yet. I’m gonna have to ignore her like Stacey so i don’t get mad every time I go to her site.
"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 28, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
I think I'[m going to have to do the same
Life’s too short to be ruined by reading people who don’t know what they’re talking about. I have to do enough of that when grading essays on tests…
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
That's a good idea...
I ignore most of what Stacey says as well.
"I believe in Earl Weaver's 'Big Inning Theory of Baseball.' The game was created by a Boog Powell three-run shot. You can look it up."
by Emperor Lrrr on Dec 28, 2010 10:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
You do so at your own peril
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
This would have been funnier if you spelled her name "Stacy"
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I called her the Royle Runaway
Mine didn’t get posted.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 28, 2010 10:20 AM EST reply actions
Oh, it's getting better
Writing is 20% of my job here. I’ll work on improving that fraction. Thanks for the tip.
I don’t EVEN want to know what the other 80% is.
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
I like where your head's at.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure this is the sentence she says during the other 80%
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 28, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
100% rec.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
i wrote that comment
and i loved the response. “my writing sucks, but it’s only 20% of what i do.” beautiful.
I think she'd be better off (as would we all) if writing was 0% of her job.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
contact information for MASN
Jim Cuddihy, Executive Vice President, Marketing, Programming, Affiliate Relations: jcuddihy@masnsports.com
Comments, Questions or Suggestions:
http://www.masnsports.com/masn_news_information/contact-masn.html
just sayin, everybody.
"If I were a horse, I'd go over to AJ [Burnett]'s house all the time!" -- Rob Dibble
Whistleblowers unite!
"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 28, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I won't rest until she is unemployed.
Nobody talks shit about my state. Except me.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 28, 2010 12:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't read Royle's post or the comments
And I don’t plan on doing so ever again. I urge you all to show your displeasure with her to MASN in a way that they’ll notice: web traffic.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 28, 2010 10:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
But that's no fun!!!!
Use your Rib Dibble powers and get her fired, Stacey!!!!!
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
DAMMIT, ROB Dibble
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
Well I tried to actually be polite and professional
in pointing out why its not a good idea to sound like you hate the people who you write for, and got the following response.
Hahahaha. Ok.
So i think i’m done too.
I saw that
Thanks for the defense. And I was not able to write my response any more politely. :)
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
GEEEEET EM
Yes, the Royale w/ cheese isn’t good. But good grief, she’s just as bad as a lot of sports writers for mainstream newspapers. I heard a writer on XM radio from some Ohio paper defend his MVP vote a few weeks ago. He made Royle look like Bill James. Uninteresting columnists are a dime a dozen, and I don’t get why people are investing so much time in giving her hate.
Spewing negativity.
I think it's a "taking the bait" situation
on both sides.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
sure
she should just ignore the hate. she’s adding fuel to the fire by responding to people who just want to point out how dumb she is.
Spewing negativity.
men love cat fights!
even if you’re a good columnist, you’re even get a lot of hate. dave cameron, who i generally found informative and useful to read, gets a ton of hate because he responds to hate in a way somewhat similar to royle (dismissive, with sarcasm throw in sometimes). people like to step on other people to elevate themselves. ignore the hate or at least go with it.
Spewing negativity.
There's a way to properly do the hater thing
And that’s the Keith Law way. That requires actually being intelligent, though, and understanding the sport you are writing about.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
oh keith law is terrible as well in dealing in hate
actually, i think he’s just as bad as royle but in a different way. yes, keith is much more witty and intelligent in his hate. but i don’t see the need to fire back at someone in a hateful way. it serves no purpose other than to reassure your fragile self esteem. keith’s justification is that people hide behind their anonymity on the internet and these people should be taken down. people do hide behind on their anonymity on the internet but engaging such behavior is non-productive. for every snark response he gives on his chats, that’s one less question he could have answered to someone who actually has a genuine question. rob neyer, IMO, is an excellent model in dealing with hate.
Spewing negativity.
because there's "not very good"
…and there’s “embarrassingly bad to the point of incompetence”.
The sportswriting community in Baltimore is already pretty weak. MASN had a chance to elevate the discourse, and instead chose an inexplicably bad hire: a woman not from the region, who doesn’t like the region (and makes fun of it), who doesn’t really know the Orioles, let alone baseball.
It’s disheartening and frankly a little bewildering. MASN is the Orioles, and the Orioles chose to represent themselves this way. It doesn’t reflect well on how things are being run over there. It’s far more than just “another disinterested columnist.”
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
"embarrassingly bad to the point of incompetence".
there’s plenty of that as far as analysis goes. roch is just as bad royle. schmuck is just as bad as royle. they may write a bit better, but all of them are AWFUL. and as a result, i stopped reading those guys for analysis a long time ago (they’re useful for news updates though, particularly roch). as stacey said, the best way to fight against royle is through web hits.
Spewing negativity.
I think it's the increasing hostility towards Balmer and Murlin that is keeping the attention on her around here
Roch’s a lifer. Schmuck’s from Cali but he’s pretty much gone native – at any rate, he’s been at the Sun for longer than some members of this site have been alive. Either one of them could joke about Baltimore or Maryland – not that I think they ever have – and that’s fine.
Not everyone has to like here, of course, but I don’t think it is too much to expect that a sports personality in this town at least keep that dislike out of their public presence – which Royle fails repeatedly in terms of both her twitter feed and her attitude towards this place in her blog and comments.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
sure, they're moronic comments
given her analytical skills, those comments don’t surprise me.
Spewing negativity.
My disdain
Has little to do with her analysis and more to do with the fact that she is a horrible, horrible writer. I find it offensive.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
sure, but SO MANY OF THE COMMENTS
are dealing with her analytical skills and not just strictly with her syntax.
Spewing negativity.
i feel like this is a both/and
rather than an either/or. she compounds the average levels of analytical awfulness with greater-than-average awfulness in writing, to the point where her awful analysis is shrouded in an impenetrable thicket of unparsability. this is what she gets paid for. she either needs some remedial coursework or an editor, and since people who need neither would probably be thrilled with the job and manage not to insult the fanbase constantly, it’s not clear why she should remain employed.
"If I were a horse, I'd go over to AJ [Burnett]'s house all the time!" -- Rob Dibble
hawaii trip off; airlines f*cked. honeymoon scotched. you want to talk about a pisser.
hopefully we can rebook for caribbean or something in next few days. thanks for the repost, duck.
that Sucks
sorry to hear that, man. Something will clear up for you though.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
Sure hope that my vay-cay to see my little brother in Cali goes without a hitch
but your situation is admitably worse.
Also I like your blog!
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Dec 28, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Woahhhh
Sounds like things are getting heated. Is this on Jen Royale’s blog?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Just some dumbass commenter on her blog.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
yes, but...
a comment that she CHOSE to let through. weak sauce.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Hahha I read.
Why all the hate? Cut this beautiful woman some slack!
Doubt he’d be saying that if he didn’t think she was hot.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Sooner or later that dude will figure out that she won't sleep with him.
Right after he moves out of his mom’s basement.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
link link link
pleaseee…i just went looking and i cant find all the good stuff
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 28, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
JW replied to comment from Bill on da Shore December 28, 2010 11:33 AM Reply
Bill your an a$$!
I’m disappointed with the attitude of others on here! I guess Santa didn’t give them what they wanted this year!
Jen have a great new year! Don’t let the jerks get to you!
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
i know didn't get what i wanted from santa
i wanted jen royle’s ass fired.
"If I were a horse, I'd go over to AJ [Burnett]'s house all the time!" -- Rob Dibble
I thought about it...but decided against it...
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
It was just too easy...
I dont really feel that way. Just a joke begging to be made.
The only pic Ive seen is the one on top of the link and I cant really tell if she is/isn’t good looking.
Welp, I’m off to Lee Road Deli to pick up some gyros for the office. Be back in a bit.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 28, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
she's not even hot!
i mean, compared to the average sportswriter, i guess. but only because she has ovaries at all. she has that weird pointy barfly Southie facial structure going. in her MASN mugshot she looks like a SI swimsuit model in a ten-years-later retrospective issue.
"If I were a horse, I'd go over to AJ [Burnett]'s house all the time!" -- Rob Dibble
Woof
Give me Amber Theoharris!
"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth
by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 28, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed
She’s not that attractive. I’ll take Amber or Julie Donaldson any day.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
it's not cool to judge her on her looks
but the flirtatious nonsense she eats up on her blog is equally inappropriate. it’s certainly not professional. and she seems to invite it and revel in it. her job is to write about sports, not to be hot, but it’s not really clear she feels that way, and given her incompetence i’m not sure MASN feels that way either.
"If I were a horse, I'd go over to AJ [Burnett]'s house all the time!" -- Rob Dibble
flirtatious nonsense she eats up on her blog is equally inappropriate.
how does she flirts with her readers? if ti’s through her comments, then she’s just degrading her professional even more
Spewing negativity.
Not cool, dude, not cool
No matter how bad a writer she is, she’s a person, not an object.
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
http://www.masnsports.com/the_royle_rundown/2010/12/look-on-the-bright-side-the-ravens-are-in-the-playoffs.html
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 28, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
all the new york love she gives
makes me wanna vomit…:/ i vote we send her back.
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on Dec 28, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Blog of Team's recap of season is terrific.
Definitely recommended.
by Bad Horse on Dec 28, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Oh Jen Royal.
You have found new lows.
Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 28, 2010 1:00 PM EST reply actions
QOTD:
I don’t, in any way, feel the Orioles need to pick up “an innings eater” (aka, someone who sucks but goes deep every gme while they’re sucking".
But if the O’s are intent on doing it, why not give Pavano what he’s asking for? Yes, he’s 35, but he’s been the picture of durability and stability for the past two years.
He wants 3 years/$30M. Given the bad contracts this team has swallowed in recent years, is it so hard to imagine taking this on? Even if he’s only good for the first half of his contract, I’d think they come out ahead. They paid Kevin Millwood $9M last year to suck eggs, and are rumored to be considering him again.
Again, not advocating that we have to go pick up a starter. But if we do decide to pick one up, I think we could do a lot worse than Pavano. And yes, it’s more money than he’s worth, but it would end the annual “pitching depth” conversation. Plus, assuming he has a decent first half (no reason to think he wouldn’t be solid the way his last year two years have been), we’d have flexibility in July to flip him or Guthrie to make way for Britton.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Why is ending the conversation worth it?
This is a bad idea, for a variety of reasons. It goes against not only a sensible philosophy of how to build a team, as well as the best part of MacPhail’s philosophy. The best thing about MacPhail is that he seems to understand that paying market price for starting pitching is a sucker’s game.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I don't understand your subject line
….but I just realized: We’d have to give up draft picks, right?
And re: MacPhail, I’m not sure he realizes that at all. Else why would he overpay for Kevin Millwood last year?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
*should be "understands", not "realizes" with regards to MacPhail
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Well, he didn't pay Millwood market price
He gave up Chris Ray and our Rule V pick for Millwood, and then paid him the remaining year on his contract. And one year of Millwood at $9M > three years of Pavano at $30M.
Pavano is unlikely to be a good investment over three years. Even discounting the value of our second round pick, we’re likely to lose millions on the deal you propose. And even if we don’t, he still isn’t good enough to make us into a good team or provide a marginal improvement over those three years that is likely to get us a playoff berth.
Save the money and invest in amateur talent and Prince Fielder.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I've heard that argument made in favor of signing LaRoche, too
and it didn’t make a lot of sense there either.
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
we're about the same argument again
the “let’s sign a mediocre free agent” crowd versus the “let’s hand the job to an unknown guy” crowd.
Spewing negativity.
The weird thing to me...
….people will easily advocate giving LaRoche or Pavano or Derrek Lee $10 million a year each, but when it comes time to give Matt Holliday or Carl Crawford or Prince Fielder $20 million a year, people will balk, even though each of those guys is more than twice as valuable as any of the $10 million guys.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
it's not just the money per year
it’s the number of years, as well as the individual player. there’s a big difference between giving Prince Fielder 2 years / $40 million and 7 years / $140 million… there’s also a big difference between, say, Crawford and Fielder, in terms of how well they’ll age – it’s pretty much a given that if you give Fielder a 5+ year contract, you’ll have to move him off 1B at some point.
not even that
I’ve read the opinion of LaRoche for three years >>> Lee for one year because it “ends the conversation”, as if being locked into a mediocre contract for three years is a positive. Same thing here, but why give Pavano three years when we can get the innings we apparently want for one year and then reassess what we need next year when we know more about our pitching core?
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
I guess I don't see him as "mediocre"
His WHIPs for the past two years are 1.375 and 1.95. That’s a lot better than the league average, let alone “mediocre”.
And he has pitched 200 innings both of those years, so I guess I think he’s learned how to take better care of himself. The NY years were ridiculous, no doubt, but he hasn’t missed a single start since then.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
not really a fan of Pavano at 3/30
he’s had a numerous injury problems in the past (apart from his time with yankees). it’s doubtful he’ll remain healthy. he’s a great 1 year deal pick up. otherwise, pass. as far as trading him goes, he wouldn’t have many suitors with that contract. nor would he pick up anything valuable. and that’s working under the assumption he stays healthy and performs well. why take on that risk? for a couple of wins in 2011, i would rather pass.
Spewing negativity.
si, mon...
.283 babip last year and 4.2 k/9. no thanks.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
you have to look at the whole picture though
he has really good control, gets ground balls, and a .283 BABIP isn’t super low (his career average is .308). his FIP and xFIP over the last two seasons have been pretty constant at around 4.00 (his career numbers are around 4.10). so he was lucky in 2010 and unlucky in 2009, and going forward we would expect around a 4.00 ERA. if he pitches 200 innings, that makes him about 3.3 WAR per season. so if he stays healthy and keeps up his performance, he’d be a bargain at $10 mil per season. it’s just that those are really big ifs when it comes to Pavano…
so if he stays healthy and keeps up his performance,
and his history says he won’t stay healthy.
Spewing negativity.
Y'all know I don't try to moderate the conversation topics
But if we could stop talking about Jen Royle I’d appreciate it. I’ve had my fill.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Yep, seems to me we've exhausted the conversation.
I don’t really have an opinion on this woman, and I don’t care to read her writing if it’s so disgraceful.
Where are my shoelaces?
No opinion on Jen Royle?
You’re going to get “flack” for that.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Do you know how much flak I've gotten
for having the last name Flach. The “don’t give me no flak” jokes are funnier and funnier every time you hear it, in case you were wondering. And you wouldn’t think people would have so much trouble with a 5 letter last name. If they hear it, they write it Flack, and if they see it, they pronounce it Flatch.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
great movie...
chevy chase used to be SO funny!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
Good one,
you see, my name is similar to the name Fletch, which is the character that Chevy Chase played in a movie once. It’s not exactly the same, but close enough that the comparison of the two in a matter of fact tone is amusing. Because they’re not, but you acted like they are. I see what you did there. You are a funny guy.
(note: this is best read in the voice of Stewie Griffin, which kept popping into my head when I was writing it)
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
you set 'em up...
i’ll knock ’em down, motherflacker.
or vice versa.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
That was very cheesy.
And no, I don’t have an opinion on her. I read good sportswriters and ignore bad ones.
Where are my shoelaces?
No....not cheesy
Making fun of her inability to do that 20% percent of her job.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I had a very strange dream last night that we signed Adam Laroche to a six year deal.
Or…was it a dream?
Where are my shoelaces?
god, let's hope so.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 28, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
My dreams don't generally come true.
Unfortunately, I’m not Cinderella. Or, I guess it isn’t unfortunate in this case.
Where are my shoelaces?
i have a lot dreams of me playing baseball
typically with people i knew from little league. i googled dream interpretations and apparently it means i feel that there’s a lot change in my life and i long for days of stability as represented by my childhood.
Spewing negativity.
Do you believe that's the case?
I have a recurring dream where I marry The Rock. Who the hell knows what that means…
Where are my shoelaces?
I think it means you know your damn role.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i think there's some truth to it
there are a lot changes going on. makes me nervous at times!
as far as the rock dream goes, the “rock” as a metaphor may mean something, like you are looking to wed yourself to something stable, but that’s just my BS arm chair psychobabble.
Spewing negativity.
I had a dream that through some convoluted circumstances I ended up as an emergency pinch-announcer for an O's broadcast.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Naw....it didn't snow in Maryland
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
It's actually hard to tell
It was so windy, parts of my yard got 3 inches, and parts have drifts that are almost 3 feet.
And hey, I’m up for the State of Delmarva anytime y’all on that side of the bay will let us secede. Delaware + ES of Md + ES of Va works for me.
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
no no no
you can’t have 51 states. that’s not a great big round American number. why do you think we added alaska and hawaii? not for the vacations.
although… i just figured it out. if you swallowed up delaware, it’d still be 50 states. all right, i’m in.
Delmarva would replace Delaware
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
Not so sure it would be.
New Castle County, DE would still represent the bulk of the population. Any potential State of Delmarva would still be in play for either party.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 29, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
Isn't the ES fairly red, though?
I know Delaware is mostly blue, but how populated are the other areas duck mentioned?
Where are my shoelaces?
Not as 'red' as you would think at first glance.
The Shore elected Wayne Gilchrest, a very moderate Republican, 9 times. And then a Dem., Frank Kratovil, the previous election. Of course, a true piece of human detritus, one Andy Harris, was elected this past election. But, for the most part, the shore is moderate, tending to be center-right politically.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 29, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
mad wire ref.
http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi1067817753/
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 28, 2010 4:43 PM EST reply actions
That's some meta shit at the end there.
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
things that may only interest me
but the trailer shows the Philadelphia skyline when referring to Cedar Rapids, IA.
Movie looks pretty funny, too. Love Ed Helms.
Orioles fans
I am just curious if you are in the Beltre running, or if acquiring Reynolds put that to rest.
I can't imagine that we're in on Beltre at this point
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I can't imagine Beltre ever signing here even if we were.
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
I'm in the running for every player
if the deal is reasonable. Beltre wants like 6 years at $20 million per or something crazy like that, so the answer is no, even if we didn’t already have a 3B (and a good prospect in the minors). if in some alternate universe, he loved Baltimore and lowered his demands significantly, then the answer would be yes.
sorry to bring up Jen Royle again...
But, someone pointed out the definition of “provinicial” to her and how it is actually an insult. Well, here is her response:
I was referring to this one:
1. belonging or peculiar to some particular province; local: the provincial newspaper.
Just means you aren’t quick to accept outsiders. It’s ok. I was told to my face I’m not from here so I’m not qualified to cover your teams and that somebody local should have been hired before me. Guess everyone has their opinions. Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing, isn’t it?
ugh…
You know what I absolutely hate?
People who don’t understand that “freedom of speech” is about freedom from government interference in what you do or don’t say. It has absolutely nothing to do with anything else.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
My first thought was...
Jen, I’m sure there were a dozen better reasons not to hire you than the fact you’re not from here.
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
no, if we do that, the terrorists win.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 28, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think they already won
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
I can GUARANTEE there will be no clips of her work tomorrow on CC
"I cover Baltimore, not the state of Maryland. And would rather have my eyes ripped out with a fork than study your state." - Jen Royle
Pick 'Em Pool Tuesday Night Football Scenarios
Minnesota WIn
56 or more points scored: Kevin wins
55 or fewer points scord: John Wins
Philadelphia Win
55 or more points scored: Kevin wins
53 or less points scored: Zk wins
54 points scored: ?
Sorry, revised:
Minnesota Win
55 or more points scored: Kevin wins
50-55 points scored: John wins
49 or fewer points scored: ZK wins
Go Minny!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 28, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Bad night to have the over
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 28, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
yay me!
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
So much for whoever that was earlier going on about how the Eagles should easily cover.
Nice game, dogfighta’……woulda been a blowout if those Minny defensive backs could, you know, catch passes thrown right to them.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 29, 2010 6:20 AM EST up reply actions
seriously how many dropped picks were there?
Felt like a Skins game! Did they sign Carlos Rogers??
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
Electric griddle
Late Xmas gift. Sip-n-Bite omlettes and pancakes for dinner. Heaven.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 28, 2010 9:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mets traded Mike Antonini for Chin-lung Hu
For those who have been around for a while, several years ago I thought Hu would be a stud. Didn’t turn out. Sad.
I was actually thinking about you when I heard that story
wondered what your thoughts were
"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"
So this Breaking Bad is on AMC?
I’m in the first episode and I’ve already heard the word fuck and seen some tits. That’s allowed on AMC?
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I don't have a problem with it
It just surprised me. I DO have a problem with commenting in the wrong thread it seems.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Techincally
anything is allowed on cable because it is a pay service, much like satellite radio. Broadcasters usually just choose to keep things clean. I guess some “basic cable” channels may have regulation. The laws are very strange regarding this.
Actually, if it's cable only like AMC, the FCC has zero juridiction
You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.
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