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Orioles Insider: Bergesen enjoying a happy and healthy offseason 
"Last offseason was such a mental strain from me, coming off the leg injury," Bergesen said today in a phone interview. "I wasn’t walking on that until October. And then the arm injury came, obviously. Just to be completely healthy this season and to go about the normal routine is a great feeling." So the leg injury was much, much worse than we were led to believe.

Buck Showalter excited about Double-A baseball | pnj.com | Pensacola News Journal
Buck is thrilled about the new AA franchise in..... Pensacola? -zk

28 Guys Who Never Would Have Worked For Earl Weaver " Baseball-Reference Blog
List of some of the lowest OBP regulars in MLB history.

Steve Melewski: Exclusive: O's prospect Matt Hobgood talks about his shoulder injury
Matt Hobgood has been pitching with pain in his shoulder since he reported to Bluefield 18 months ago. Great.

Berken talk, baseball camp next month | Green Bay Press Gazette
Jason Berken is a busy guy back home this winter.

"Orioles Day" at Camp Leatherneck Afghanistan - War On Terror News
"Service members participating in the softball league at Camp Leatherneck, Afghanistan, try on T-shirts and hats donated by the Baltimore Orioles, Dec. 26. There are a total of 22 teams in the softball league that began Oct. 1. The teams are comprised of Marines, sailors and members of the British forces." The Orioles never even issued a press release about this. They just did it. Cool.

The Playoffs Sweet Spot | FanGraphs Baseball
Numbers can tell us when a team should rebuild and when the playoffs are a realistic expectation. What can't they do?

Nick Markakis: No Longer A Star? - Beyond the Box Score
Nick Markakis' biggest problem? He's hitting more routine fly balls to center field.

Joe Posnanski Posts: Hall of Fame: The Eight Definites
"Sean Smith’s Total Zone Rating concludes that (Roberto) Alomar was actually a below average defensive second baseman for his career..." For those who don't like defensive metrics, here's more proof for your argument. Or not.

2011 MLB Projected Standings - Replacement Level Yankees Weblog
There's something called the CAIRO System that projects the Orioles to win 70 games next year. The good news is, that will only put us four games out of fourth place!

QUESTION OF THE DAY: CAIRO says we'll win 70. Some writers think we're a sleeper for 2011. OK, I take that back - a quick Google search doesn't turn up much in that regard aside from Bleacher Report, and we don't link to them because they suck. Anyway - just how many games do the O's win in 2011, and does it really matter? 

I got thrown out of a bar in New York City. Now, when I say I got thrown out of a bar, I don't mean someone asked me to leave, and we walked to the door together, and I said, "Bye everyone, I gotta go!" Six bouncers picked me up and hurled me out of that bar like I was an Open Thread.

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Joe Sheehan at SI has us pegged as “2011’s Padres” (and vice versa, which is fun) in a “bold predictions” article that went up yesterday. He said over .500 but outside of the playoff picture. That sounds to me like 2011’s Toronto Blue Jays, but semantics.

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

CAIRO doesn't take Buck into account

“Men don’t follow titles. They follow courage.” I see career years from at least a handful of our young guys when Buck lights a fire under their asses. Also as the writer states, rosters aren’t even close to being set so this is really raw data. I’m not saying we’re gonna win the division but I think the SD is like +/- 20 wins here.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

You aren't gonna bait me

but I will say that any projection system is naturally going to have an impossible time of accurately projecting players with less than 3 years of service, which includes Wieters, Matusz, Bergesen, Tillman, Arrieta, Britton, VandenHurk, Bell, Snyder, Reimold, Berken, and Koji. So the SD is in fact really wide.

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, I was going to go in depth into small sample sizes

As well as elaborate on how extremely important a true leader at manager (see Joe Maddon) is to a group of young guys instead of a babysitter who’s just happy to be there but I realized I was starting to write a book so I stopped.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta remove that extra 'in' between 'if' and 'you'.

Camden Chat – If anybody asks you if in you in this game, you tell ’em you in it for life.

Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks

by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 30, 2010 9:24 AM EST reply actions  

i thought so too,

but that’s the way the quote appeared on The Wire’s facebook page, and elsewhere on the web. So I trust it’s actually accurate.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

It makes sense to me

Look at it like: If anyone asks you, “Are you in this game?” You tell them you’re in it for life.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

it's a colloquialism.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I would get that if it said:

“If anybody asks you if you in this game”

but it says:

“If anybody asks you if in you in this game”

by Wieters Wieners on Dec 30, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

It reads better

if you spell it “if’n”, I think.

“If anybody asks you if’n you be in this game…”

Those are some Kojiculous sideburns. Son of Sam Horn commenter, 08/31/10

by killertomato on Dec 30, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This is what I was just about to post

Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks

by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 30, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

There we go...

Although there’s no ‘be’, I can at least see it now.

Damn, I’m out of it today… I need to just sit a few plays out.

Talk amongst yourselves.

by Wieters Wieners on Dec 30, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, if'n

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't know why that was ever a question

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

For the record....

I have no idea why I didn’t title this Bird Droppings. Oops.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

Now the urstion becomes...

Do I spend the next 2 days on Twitter bitching about someone calling me on it?

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 9:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Ugh. QUESTION.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 9:45 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

damn you autocorrect!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

haha that's great

seriously, F autocorrect

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

The first site's that made me laugh out loud in a while

Thanks for the tip, zk. That’s funny stuff.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

did you fuck Taco?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

ahahhaahah

I’m totally gonna start using “Holy Shatner” as an exclamation.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Depending what we do at 1b

I think if we get Lee or LaRoche, we win around 74. However, get Lee for one year, and next offseason sign Fielder and we are a 85-88 win team in 2012

by Oyeah on Dec 30, 2010 9:46 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

how incredibly sweet would it be if Redskins knocked Giants out of post-season?

answer: sweeter than sweet

but i think first Green Bay would have to lose in the 1 p.m. game, which I think is unlikely, since they are playing at home and, the Bears comments about beating the Pack notwithstanding, they really don’t have anything to play for

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 10:05 AM EST reply actions  

bears are playing for #1 seed

and home field throughout the playoffs.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

oh look at that. i thought atlanta had it locked up.
the bears will be motivated.
hopefully the skins will have their shot.

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Must be tough being a Skins/O's fan

Respect for staying true to your teams despite the arrival of the Ravens/Nats but how do you get rewarded? A dozen years of front office ineptitude from both of your beloved teams.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

i have no troubles being a skins/o's fan

as i’ve mentioned previously, i’ve personally seen both appear in multiple championships.

these years in the wilderness will only make the eventual return that much sweeter.

being a young skins/o’s fan, though….. that would be tough.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Hi!

Born in ’82 – too young to enjoy the WS in ’83 and the SBs in ’83 & ’87 – I remember being aware of the SB in ’91. Outside of that mid 90s run of Orioles above-averageness, I got nothing outside of my Terps NC in 2002 and the Caps 1996(!) SC Finals appearance.

And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard

by TerroristFistJab on Dec 30, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Terps NC in 2002 was pretty effin' sweet.

I figure the only thing that would have made it more awesome is if I had decided to attend UMCP (freshman at UMBC at the time). Ah, hindsight… what can ya do?

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to UMd

the semester after Len Bias died. I got to see all three years of the Bob Wade Experience. Timing is everything.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Duck,

did you see the 30 for 30 on Len Bias’s death on ESPN? Compared to the rest of the series, I was kind of disappointed.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Dec 30, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I did, and it was disappointing.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had decided to be born a year earlier

I would’ve been a freshman at College Park that year too

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeahp. being 13 in 1983, which i was, kind of sealed the deal for a lifetime.

shit, even the bullets were good in those days!

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m totally off my rocker today. Effig Camden is pretty sick and I was up all night with him. Fell asleep around 4 and the alarm went off at 6:30. It was one of those “you’ve GOT to be kidding me” moments when I heard that annoying sound go off.

by Wieters Wieners on Dec 30, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Eventually, they sleep in

although my 10 year old had 2 friends over, and they were still going strong at 6:45 this morning. Hadn’t slept a wink. Boys, I swear…

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Any child who didn't do that to his old man has led a deprived life. :)

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I slept just fine, thankyouverymuch

Granted, didn’t go to sleep until almost 1, but that’s what happens on Christmas break.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

you were BORN in 1983?

dios madre.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Face it, zk. We're old.

Although you’ll ALWAYS be slightly older.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

So was I. Haha.

Although unlike WW, I didn’t pop out until after the WS was won.

My mom went to one of the games in Baltimore while she was 8 months pregnant though.

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

okay then.

You and DCO’sfan should have a slumber party!

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

another young lady who is a regular commenter

16 y.o., I believe, lives in DC area

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

C'mon now man...

Hell, I was born in ‘82, and i’m not exactly the youngest regular. Some of us being born in the early 80’s should not be all that astonishing to you.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't matter if you logically know that, it's still weird

When I see that sticker that says “You must have been born before this day in 1992 to buy cigarettes” I always wonder why they’re letting children smoke. Also, Marisa runs an SBN blog so I would have also thought she was older.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 31, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Well yea

I am that way with children of the ‘90s to some degree, but those kids cant even drink legally yet. I’m 28. I’ve already crossed the threshhold into slowly dying each day. After a while the 80’s cant seem that crazy.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Totally agree on the cigarette thing

I’m 26 and that makes me even feel like an old man.

by YeahDonnie on Dec 31, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I was 10 when the Ravens came to town

And my dad and grandfather were die hard Colts fans and just stopped supporting any team when they left town instead of switching to Redskins (Thank… God!), so it was the perfect time for me to be a Ravens lifer.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to Baltimore a year ago

and I never knew the story of the baltimore Colts, and how they moved. i was absolutley amazed by it. You could tell the fans were still upset about it.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that is, to put it mildly...

a vast understatement.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Dec 30, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Higgins is right

It was devestating. There’s still older people in corner bars all around Baltimore that will talk your ear off about the great Colts teams of the ’60s and ’70s. My family has endless stories. It will take a lot of time and/or Ravens rings to heal those wounds.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Was it the statue of Unitas that tipped you off?

ESPN’s 30 for 30 production, “The Band That Wouldn’t Die” is pretty much spot-on regarding BMore’s love for the Colts.

I was only 8 when they left & I fumed for days when Indy changed their unis to the classic look & switched to black shoes. This year they were wearing our old kicking colt logo on the sidelines. That takes f*cking balls, man.

Starting to rant here… anyway, like Indy native David Letterman said, shoulda changed the name.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

if you could trade back the Ravens for the Colts tomorrow, would you?

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

that's such a mean question

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Hellz no.

But I’d buy back the horseshoe Junior Irsay offered when the Ravens arrived. Then I’d retire it.

The only thing better than doing that is having Manning retire, Indy lose interest, and the advent of the LA Colts franchise. Either return the shoe or totally whore it out. I don’t know why that sounds good to me, but it does.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

good answer
or design a stealthy little horseshoe into the raven logo someplace

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Some guy created a Colts Ravens throwback

The Raven’s wings actually formed the horseshoe. It was pretty badass.
http://baltimorethrowback.blogspot.com/2010/03/baltimore-throwback.html

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Very interesting

It’ll never happen, but interesting nonetheless

by YeahDonnie on Dec 31, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Irsay said he wanted $25M for the logo rights after the move

Fuck that noise.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, he's just as big a dick as his old man.

He gets a pass because (a) he’s not a drunk and (b) he hasn’t moved the team yet.

But if we’re talking fantasy, what’s $25M in make believe coin?

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No, he's not

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1165044/6/index.htm

He’s not his father. As much as I hated them moving, what he has done with the team since he took over as owner is pretty impressive.

And you’re right about the unis. The best ever.

by DJAY on Dec 30, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

An asking price of $25M for the logo is a dick move.

A SERIOUS dick move. He knew Modell didn’t have the cash for that, otherwise he would have stayed in Cleveland.

From someone who grew up here, who was supposedly haunted by the decision, who didn’t want his kids to grow up being shunned in their hometown, the golden opportunity to bridge that gap & mend fences for the future drops from the heavens into his lap… he wants to make an additional $25M on it? ON TOP of all the money he’d make on everyone in Indiana buying new schwag for the team’s new moniker/logo?

Bullshit. He can quote Sting & write poems to Thompson all he wants, that demand was vintage Tiger Bob.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer Old Fat Drunk Irsay

when describing Bob

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't blame him, blame the NFL

and every other major league sports organization that comes into a new city. Any new franchise that is formed should be forced to sign an agreement that says if they relocate, the colors, logo and legacy stay with the city. Witness the reborn Cleveland Browns.

Modell was stupid to offer $5 million for the colors in the first place. He should have known that wasn’t going to happen. The Colts had already been in Indy for 10 years. And Irsay was wrong to put a price on it. He should have said it ain’t for sale.

Indianapolis would never have embraced a new team name, logo and colors after 10 years as the Colts. To think that is silly.

by DJAY on Dec 30, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The city doesn’t own the team (other than the Packers) so therefore they don’t own the rights to the name/colors/etc and to think that is ridiculous. What happened to Baltimore fans sucked, because it happened the way it did, but franchises relocate all of the time. Many times they take the colors and history with them and sometimes they don’t. Sometimes they take the history and leave the colors or vice versa (especially in the NHL).

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Dec 30, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

In other words

bitching that the team left in the middle of the night and without warning, understandable;
crying because they took the name and colors that they own the rights to, stupid.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Dec 30, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Never get involved in a land war in Southeast Asia

and never get involved in this argument with this crowd. When will I ever learn?

by DJAY on Dec 30, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure they would have.

They embraced a team named for Baltimore’s leg of the Triple Crown. You think they wouldn’t keep rooting for said team (with same players) after it was renamed the Indy Racers (or something equally Indiana)? That doesn’t make sense.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 31, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

On a related note

If they ever change the unis (not likely) they better be good, otherwise it’d be a disrespect to the old, great, classic unis.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Dec 30, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Best unis in football, IMO.

Much as I hate to see them.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

That could mean so many things

I think it had to be this way. The fact is that the Colts were in turmoil when Irsay moved the team. We were losing badly (Elway refused to play for us), Memorial Stadium was not cutting it as an acceptable NFL venue. We would’ve probably had to move eventually. If we did try to stay they would’ve cheaply built what would’ve surely become a terrible stadium out in the sticks in the mid 80’s because the inner city wasn’t revitalized yet. it could’ve been a disaster if they stayed in hindsight. We got a team at the right time and the entire downtown stadium complex idea became the benchmark for the whole nation.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

That's if Atlanta loses to Carolina

and THAT is a 1:00 game

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 30, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

right.  i have the panthers picked at +14.5 ATS — think they’ll be motivated and playing for pride having already secured top draft pick — but how does atl. lose this?

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Packers Bears is also a 4:00 game

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 30, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If the Giants can't beat the Redskins

then they don’t deserve to get in the playoffs, so whatevz.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 30, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Green Bay's playing at 4:15

Just like the Skins and Giants. Smart move competitively to schedule these games like they do for World Cup Groups.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Dec 30, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

The Poz post

…is a must-read, if only because he eviscerates the anti-steroid crowd for casting aspersions on Bagwell. Posnanski is so unfailingly polite that it’s always fun to see him get fired up about something.

"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson

by Brotz13 on Dec 30, 2010 10:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

3-hr early release.... boom

I’m mainly posting this to see if my newsfeed is stuck as its been entirely dead for 30 minutes.

by Wieters Wieners on Dec 30, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

Lucky

I got a half day before XMas but I think I gotta stick around till 5 today.

Off tomorrow right? I haven’t worked a full week since before Thanksgiving. I don’t know how I’ll be able to get through next week!

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously... haha

I’m already planning on calling in sick Monday so I can get a nice 4-day week to ease back into the routine.

Same here though, haven’t done a 5 day week since Nov 1-5 (Nov. 11th was a holiday).

Gotta love govt jobs, lol.

by Wieters Wieners on Dec 30, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

last week for CC Pick 'Em picks

get ’em in! …..

…..by Sunday, as there is no Thursday game this week.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

I just gotta hold on baby!

I’ve tried my best to give away the damn thing with a couple mindless picks the past couple weeks. Who the piss takes 10+ point underdogs when they are in the lead of a pickem challenge with 2-3 weeks to go.

Anyway, its been fun. Wish there would have been more smacktalk, but I’ll definitely be in next year again.

Thanks for running it Zach

by Wieters Wieners on Dec 30, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i’m in this next year

(i’m 2 points clear in my ATS espn pickem contest with a week to go)

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Ditto

And I’m in for fantasy baseball too if there’s room which I assume has to occur here.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I just want to win one week!

ONE WEEK!

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by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

It's been...

CUE BARE NAMED LADIES SONG…

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

DAMMIT

BARE NAKED LADIES SONG!!!!!!

Mavis Beacon, why has you forsaken me?

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

watchin' x-files with no lights on

we’re dans la maison
I hope the smoking man’s in this one.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw Green Street Hooligans last night

I know I’m a few years late but that movie was awesome. I need to work some British slang into my regular vocab.

“We best fuck off. Mate we best fuck off sharpish.”

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions  

haha...

i follow west ham and have been to matches at upton park (haven’t seen the movie, so i don’t know if it directly deals w/ west ham, but their park is on green street in the east end and their rivalry w/ millwall in the 70s and 80s was legendary for the offpitch savagery which surrounded it). not totally crazy anymore, but way diffferent than any american sporting event i’ve ever been to.

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-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Dec 30, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

It's entirely about West Ham and culminates with the Millwall rivalry

You gotta check it out.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, my...

love me some hammers, though, they are yet another team that curses me w/ their mediocre performances.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Dec 30, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It's my understanding

That the Hammers develop great young players but then are too cheap to sign them. They’re the Twins/Marlins of the Premiership. Accurate opinion?

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

not even too cheap...

but they’ve had a couple squads make europe since i’ve been watching and a few fight off relegation and this seems to be where they get into trouble: they basically sign oldster free agents to ridiculous contracts w/ the thought that their experience and grit will help see the youngsters through tournaments/rough spots, what have you…stop me if this sounds familiar?

it’s crazy, though, how many guys on the national team were developed by west ham: rio ferdinand, lampard, joe cole, glen johnson, michael carrick…defoe was signed from another academy before breaking in w/ west ham, robert green was someone they developed in the 1st div. it’s crazy.

At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!

-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland

by j.q. higgins on Dec 30, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds frustrating

And the Premiership is definitely a “rich get richer” league a la MLB. No parity at all. Tough to support a losing team.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Ain't that the truth.

The thing with the Premier league, though, is that the big money owners are still working their way into the league. When it’s all said and done, most of the teams could be funded by billionaires and that should add some parity.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Dec 30, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

The only problem with that movie

is now every teenager who watches it thinks its cool to go to a MLS game and act like an asshole.

by kba26 on Dec 30, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

And speaking of colloquialisms, is pointing your finger at a Congressperson another way of saying, "I use Viagra-- shouldn't you?"

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by Titov on Dec 30, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

Does Palmeiro "come through in the clutch" or, y'know, the other way around...?

http://adland.tv/commercials/viagra-rafael-palmeiro-2003-030-usa

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by Titov on Dec 30, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know how clutch he was

but he always managed to get good wood on the ball.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

I always liked their offense, but they had some bad injuries last year. You also have Showalter all year now for 2011.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

too bad Buck doesn't play first base

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

What is to like about our offense?

Unless Wieters breaks out, we should be a pretty mediocre offensive team. Your Red Sox will have a better offensive player at literally every position but catcher next season.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate when you say that.

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by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

But you know he's right

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I wanted to dispute this statement

Then I went and looked at the relevant baseball-reference.com pages and went, “Dammit.”

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by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

thankfully, there is felix pie to make us happy

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by the fix is in on Dec 30, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

shortstop is debatable

and anyway, that’s not a good way to rate offenses. Compared to the Red Sox is there any team with a strong offense?

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, she's a Red Sox fan

And offensively, I’d bet on Scutaro and Lowrie over Hardy. I’d say we have more of a shot at right field than short.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

forgot about lowrie

but scutaro and hardy are a wash, more or less.

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll agree on that

Lowrie is going to be a very good player. I would take Hardy over Iztruis on your team. What is going to happen there, and what will happen with Brenden Harris?

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Hardy will start, Izzy will backup

Harris will get a shot at a backup job in spring training, but will probably go to AAA as insurance for if Roberts is hurt again.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure who would give up anything worth having for Harris

so: no.

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

OK, may Izturis be moved?

It just seems like a lot of utility guys and you could get some bullpen help from somewhere.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No

You can’t trade a free agent signing until June.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

We could trade Andino, if anyone wants him

But I don’t see anyone giving up a decent reliever for a backup infielder. We’re seeing lots of relievers signing multi-year deals. That means that teams generally are overvaluing, not undervaluing, relievers.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I would think that

undersized, defensively sound, light hitting, moderately fast middle infielders are not that rare amongst organizations. I don’t see them getting moved.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have thought that too...

…before the 2008 Orioles.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't enamored of re-signing Izzy

and I guess the plan pretty much is what James said. Stick Harris at AAA for insurance in case of injury and put Izzy on the bench. What exactly Izturis offers off the bench I can’t really fathom.

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Defense and he'd be a decent pinch runner

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

but you aren't going to

take Hardy out of a game late for the extremely marginal defensive upgrade (or, you shouldn’t), and Cesar’s faster than, say, Wieters or Scott, but he can’t steal bases. Is his “first to third” that much better than Harris or Andino?

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he's probably a defensive downgrade from Hardy

But you could pinch hit for Hardy with someone like Pie then bring in Izzy without losing much defense, or you could have Izzy pinch run for Scott or Wieters.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to let everyone know

I’m really upset that we finally have a Harris and everybody already hates him. I mean, sure, he sucks. Just let me have a joyfully oblivious offseason.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 30, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

hey man, we didn't draft Kyle Gibson

and if I don’t get that, nobody gets that.

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

And Terrance Long was never an Oriole

I’m still holding out hope that minor leaguer Matt Long will one day find his way to the O’s.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think anyone at all wants Harris at his salary

The Twins signed him to that stupid contract, and so Harris has negative value. The Orioles took his salary so that they could give up less in prospects to get Hardy. But Harris has already cleared waivers and isn’t on the 40 man roster – no one wants Harris’ contract.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Dec 30, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

We've got a lot of Harris-esque AAA players that could be parts of a trade

Izturis isn’t going anywhere I don’t think. He’s got a great glove and either Hardy or Roberts WILL go down at some point in the season, it’s just a matter of who and for how long

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

oh and DH is at least up for debate, too

Luke had a career year, but he did outhit Ortiz, and he is younger than Ortiz…though Ortiz is of course the more accomplished hitter and more likely to sustain some success. But there’s a conversation to be had at a couple of positions.

…which is then obliterated when we look at second, third, first, and left…but oh well.

"I looked at the clock... because I was saying to myself... It's five to seven, where could he be going with that sawed off shotgun?"

by Andrew_G on Dec 30, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's a good 1B option

Better than spending $10M on DLee.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m sure you’ve answered this before but who do you like at DH?

by thewaywardO on Dec 30, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

It's risky (to say the least)

But I like the idea of sticking Reimold there and seeing if he can be his 2009 self.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the idea of Reimold, period.

This lineup looks a lot better if he’s in 2009 form.

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by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Achilles issues.

Baby mama issues. Issues issues.

He was injured most of the year & couldn’t hit. His off-field family problems got more press — and could explain why he didn’t seem to have anything together.

Ankle’s healed up, though. Brady sez he’s looking good.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, the mainstream O's media

avoided the baby-mama drama like the plague.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, "press" is the wrong term.

Birdland was all about the psycho mother-to-be.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Reimold was engaged to and knocked up this girl

And depending upon who you believed, he either dumped her cold and changed his phone number to get away from her, or she went psycho man trap on him. We don’t know all the details but he had all kinds of stress over it and had to leave the team a couple times to deal with stuff.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

He was back in the minors by the time he had to leave the team

But yeah… pretty weird situation.

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

he knocked up his girlfriend..who then became his fiancee

then he found out she had slept with half of the Rays (supposedly) and had ran away from Florida (name change and all) after having sex with her high school students (supposedly)

by brek on Dec 30, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I never heard about that part.

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I never heard the Rays part

But I’d heard the sex with students name change part.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The story will be told in the Nolan Reimold movie

And on that day, and every day after, the baby mama will wish she’d gone digging for gold in some other town.

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Disagree.

I like being able to sit Scott when he goes ice cold. Dude can carry the entire team for a week and a half, but he can also go a week without making meaningful contact.

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by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone can go a week without making meaningful contact

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That should read "several weeks".

When he is hot, he is lava hot.
When he is cold, he is ice cold.

I’d rather have cold Scott on the bench than making outs & giving average defense at 1B.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

His 2010 cold streaks weren't as cold as he's been in the past

Now, that’s probably a one career year aberration, but we can’t say that we’ve never seen a more consistent Luke Scott.

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

True.

He had a great year. I sure hope he repeats it.

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You toss these softballs

and yet I know better than to take a swing.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott is maybe the streakiest hitter in baseball right now.

Who else will literally hit 10 homers in 2 weeks and then hit 2 in 2 months?

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, comparing your Offense to the Red Sox is a quick way to get depressed

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I would love for the O's to be paying Carl Crawford that much.

If I’m gonna laugh, I’ll laugh at the Nationals and Jayson Werth.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 30, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. I really wanted Werth

But that contract is terrible. The Nationals spend their money all wrong. They should have just kept Dunn and Willingham, and signed free agent pitchers.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm married to a Sox fan. I'll take what I can get.

A very satisfactory moment, at a family reunion:

SoxFanInLaw: I realized yesterday I’m a total hypocrite. All the reasons I hate the Yankees… and my team is now doing the exact same thing. And not only do I not care, I’m happy about it…

Me: You’re Yankees Jr.

SFIL: Totally. Want another beer?

From the Land of Pleasant Living...

by OEutaw on Dec 30, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I never had a problem with the Yankees

spending. I always thought, if they have the money, why not use it?
And then they have to give some of it up in Revenue Sharing, the stupedist idea ever. Teams could imrpove their baseball club, but instead have to give it to small market owners who pocket the money anyways.
No excuse for the Pirates, 18 losing seasons.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

haha exactly

NO ONE DENIES THIS!

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I read that in my head in Julianne Moore's voice

from her role on 30 rock. I hope given your user name that you did the same.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Dec 30, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you needed to fit "wicked pissah" into that

Otherwise perfect.

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

they haven't won a single game yet.

or hadn’t you noticed?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I’ve heard before Baltimore is the lacrosse capital of America, yet I;ve been there and I have not seen anything to prove this. Is it true at all?

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

The Baltimore metro area is

or, at least, was. Long Island may be overtaking it.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It is populer in Long Island, yeah

Same with Northern New York State. Boston is becoming a good market for it now too.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't follow lacrosse but it's pretty big around here

Mostly at the high school and college level. Hopkins has a storied program, Maryland is usually in the mix for the championship. Lots of local private schools field competitive teams.

by PhilR8 on Dec 30, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

It may be less obvious, but only because of how rapidly lacrosse is growing in the rest of the country.

But growing up, it was everywhere. Lacrosse was easily the most popular sport in my high school. And despite never actually playing organized lacrosse, i pretty much grew up with a lacrosse stick in my hands and still probably own 2 or 3 somewhere.

by kba26 on Dec 30, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

US Lacrosse built their HQ and HOF on Hopkins' campus

Without fact-checking I’d be willing to bet that at least 25% of the rosters of most good college programs consist of kids from the area

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Duke won last year with MAYBE 4 kids from MD on their entire roster

I was shocked.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Cuse won it last year with probably the best player from the area

But its becoming more and more nationalized

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."

by danielreese05 on Dec 30, 2010 2:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

What exactly would you expect to see to prove that?

Kids playing lacrosse in the street? Lacrosse sticks leaning up against all the porch railings? Stray lacrosse balls rolling randomly down the street?

I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8

by O'sFan21 on Dec 30, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That's because most of the lacrosse players are rich, preppy kids their whole lives

And they don’t interact with the peons. Ever. I mean, the public high schools have teams and the preppier people are drawn to it but it’s nothing like at a private school.

You can’t really casually play lacrosse at a young age with the neighborhood kids like you can baseball, football or basketball either. If you have the sticks you need the pads. Might as well just throw a football around and do some two hand touch.

"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest

by Eat More Esskay on Dec 30, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You can’t really casually play lacrosse at a young age with the neighborhood kids like you can baseball, football or basketball either. If you have the sticks you need the pads.

Not true at all. I played pickup lacrosse all the time growing up and have never once owned any equipment besides a stick and a ball. Thats like saying you can’t play football unless everyone owns a helmet.

by kba26 on Dec 30, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

dont interact with the "peons" huh?

Not gonna lie, I kinda resent that

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."

by danielreese05 on Dec 30, 2010 2:43 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think it was more of a knock on the preppies

that actually refer to others as ‘peons’ than it was a knock on the so called ‘peons’.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Dec 30, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

that's the thing

I go to a private school and some of my best friends in the world go to public. it’s a large assumption to make and I know he didn’t mean any harm but it’s a preconceived notion I’m trying to kill.

just because we go to private schools doesn’t mean we hate or disregard as trash everyone who doesn’t.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Dec 31, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I gotta agree

I don’t like to get super serial on here but I read over it a few times and that preppy-hating comment came out of nowhere. My mom and dad busted their asses to send me to a good HS and just because I went to a good school doesn’t mean I forget my roots.

Baltimore is unique in this country in the sense that if you are living in the wrong school district you can pay a little extra to send your kid to a school with a good reputation. Not all private schools cost 12k like Boys Latin. Most are reasonable. It’s the parents choice whether they want to spend extra on a house in a good public school district or buy a cheaper house and pay for a good school.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 31, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

shit dude I go to Gilman!

it’s pricey as hell but we’re on financial aid and Johns Hopkins is gonna pay for half of my college tuition. I think telling my family how to spend its money is a little out of line. 4 people from my family have gone to college and they want the same for me. my mom worked 3 jobs after my dad died, that’s how much my education meant to her.

but I digress, I don’t think it was meant to offend anyone but still, just raging on private schools without a basis isn’t ok with me.

Get 'em.
"it ain't no sin in goin to da scrip club."
Music City Miracles Hall Of Fame, Class of 2010

by danielreese05 on Dec 31, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently our pro team's the reigning outdoor lax champions

The Chesapeake Bayhawks, formerly the Baltimore Bayhawks. Now playing out of Annapolis. They have 3 championships in 10 years. That’s dynasty material!

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 30, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I still can't believe they won this year

They were a dynesty, sucked for five years, were mediocre this year, and somehow won it all.

by Marisa Ingemi on Dec 30, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

hang out around hopkins for 1/2 an hour

you’ll see plenty.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably because of John's Hopkins

They have an amazing lacrosse team.

Where are my shoelaces?

by DCO'sfan on Dec 31, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Completely OT

but am I nerdy to be giggling at the rating on This Is Spinal Tap’s IMDB page?

by NSOsFan on Dec 30, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

'This is Spinal Tap' was

at one point my favorite movie of all time. Now it’s not even my favorite comedy of all time. It’s not like the movie got worse for me, it’s just that I saw ‘Modern Romance’ with Albert Brooks. Coincidentally, both movies have the late Bruno Kirby in them.

"Tragedy is what happens to me. Comedy is what happens to you." -Mel Brooks

by jobe on Dec 30, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

What's the rating?

Basically a two word review?

"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come on, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool

by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 30, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i just went looking too

can you provide a link?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

here ya go!

link

current rating: 8 out of…….

by NSOsFan on Dec 30, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oh the rating *number*!

that’s awesome.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

no, you see, this is *one* better, isn't it?

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Here ya go

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Classic. Totally missed it

On my Iphone IMDB app, it offers this under the title:

Does for rock and roll what “The Sound of Music” did for hills.

"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come on, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool

by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 30, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

MS paint skills galore

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 30, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

It took me a minute to see it

but then I lol’d.

Say no to Prince Fielder in 2012.

by Knubles and Bits on Dec 30, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He really has it in for the new AD

since his sugar daddy for info and quotes is out the door.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I learned something interesting today

A certain MASN blogger has the nasty habit of editing responses to add even more sarcasm (and misinformation) after the initial attempt. Interesting…

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Unfortunately, if required reading Tuesday's column & responses

more than once. When I went back today, lo and behold, there was more to her responses than was there yesterday. I guess she thought she’d make herself look smarter, but I thought it actually proved my point even more.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 30, 2010 9:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm surprised she didn't change your posts as well

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 31, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

She never did get my point, either.

You were way more likely to be murdered in Baltimore in 2008 than you were in Tombstone in 1881.

by duck on Dec 31, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

So, I got the Walking Dead Compendium for x-mas

I just finished reading it. It’s taking all my will power not to go snooping around the interwebz to find out what happens next. Now the question is, do I order Books 5 & 6 off Amazon and save some scratch, but wait for them to be delivered? Or do I just go over to Borders and pay a little extra in order to satiate my desire for immediate self-gratification?

I like that I live in a world not overrun by zombies so that I can fret over these rather trivial decisions.

Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks

by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 30, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions  

Congrats!

Just save the cash and order online. The suspense will make it all the better when it arrives. Of course you could order the next hardcover (basically half a compendium) and not have to buy all the volumes seperately. It gets crazy though. Trust me.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 1:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Excuse me if someone's already mentioned this ...

but the Opening Day clock appears to be off by an hour.

It’s 10:40 pm Eastern and it says Opening day is 91 days, 0 hours and 20 minutes.

(Double-checked and my settings are correct)

mt

What looks large from a distance, close up ain't never that big.

by mystery tramp on Dec 30, 2010 10:41 PM EST reply actions  

Got to account for Daylight Savings Time

That is the ‘missing’ hour you might be looking for.

Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks

by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 30, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

dunno

It’s an automated widget, but that sounds right. When we spring forward prior to Opening Day it’ll be right I guess.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 31, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey! I just had a "space saving" altercation right on my block!

They exist in NJ as well! I saw a trash can blocking the spot, so I tossed it aside because it pissed me off. Then the people came back as we were walking inside and told us we took their spot. I told them they don’t own the road and that we similarly lost the spot we dug out of. It happens. It’s public street parking. The woman (it was a man and a woman) proceeds to get louder and say “but you moved the can! Don’t act like you didn’t move it. It was right there!”. Someone clearly did not get the point of my argument.

And the truth is, if they had come back and told me they had just dug out and had to run to the store for a minute and if they hadn’t left a stupid garbage can in that spot, I probably would have asked my gf to move her car because I understand it sucks. But when you act like you own the rights to that spot and like a blue can is some sort of legal retention device I must abide by, I get a bit peeved and take your spot on principle.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 1:34 AM EST reply actions  

100 % agree

well done.

"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott

by zknower on Dec 31, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I got your back man but who's gonna stop them from keying your car or slashing your tires?

Standing up for “principle” is one thing but unless you have a hidden camera, they’re gonna cause hundreds of dollars of damage to your car that you can’t do anything about. That’s why this whole space saving thing is so delicate.

"I guess if there wasn't any luck involved I'd win everytime." -Phil Hellmuth

by Astronaut Mike Dexter on Dec 31, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, me.

I don’t live in a huge city. I live in a suburb. They live within 2 blocks of here and I have their make, model, and license plate number. If they think that spot is worth breaking the law, then they’ll have to deal with the repercussions.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

She got louder? In New Jersey?

I thought you people were always on full volume naturally.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 31, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Am I loud?

I don’t really notice much of a volume difference when traveling to other areas (except NYC, but you basically have to be loud to be heard over the sirens, horns, construction, and crazy people screaming).

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

haha I've never noticed you to be especially loud

But I feel like other New Jerseyians I’ve encountered get kinda loud. When I get my reality show about the culture shock of moving from Maryland to New Jersey, one of the things that will confuse me is why everyone is so loud in my new home.

You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990

by Stacey on Dec 31, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions  

So you're moving here!

Mission accomplished!

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on Dec 31, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

whaaaaaaat

moving to New Jersey? Which exit?

by PhilR8 on Dec 31, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

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