Thursday's Thoroughly Non-Political Bird Droppings and WM Update
by duck on Dec 9, 2010 6:56 AM EST
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PrintWater's wet. Camden Yards is a great place to see a game. We all should exercise more. Dog fighting is bad. Boy, sure is cold out there, huh?
Yeah, that's about as controversial as I'm getting today. You're getting links to O's news and rumors, and that's it. Enjoy!
UPDATE 12:40: It's official, J.J. Hardy is an Oriole and Koji Uehara has been resigned. (I'm assuming the link works because my work computer's intrnet connection is on the fritz.)
Update 10:04 a.m.: Per Kelsie Smith on Twitter, the J.J. Hardy trade announcement will be made at noon, and it will definitely be Jim Hoey and Brett Jacobson going to the Twins.
UPDATE 9:58 a.m.: The Rule V Draft is over, and the Orioles have selected Adrian Rosario from the Brewers and lost Pat Egan to Milwaukee and Pedro Beato to the New York Mets.
Twins to ship Hardy to Baltimore - CBSSports.com
The Twins have agreed to send J.J. Hardy and infielder Brendan Harris to Baltimore in exchange for minor-league pitchers Brett Jacobson and Jim Hoey. -zk
Steve Melewski: MacPhail on first base: "The area where we have the most options"
Melewski talks 1B with MacPhail, on video in some hotel room, no less. Someone should tell his camera operator that backlighting is never really a good idea. Also, the previous Melewski post says the O's offered DDT a minor league managing job before he went to Hotlanta. -zk
Orioles Insider: Orioles agree to terms with Koji
One guaranteed year and a year with a vesting option. Koji Uehara has some incentives to hit for that second year to kick in. Either the market for him was exaggerated, or he really did want to come back to Baltimore.
Orioles Insider: Carlos Pena on not choosing the Orioles
Carlos Pena said he was "flattered" by the interest shown by the Orioles, but chose to sign with the Cubs. I'm guessing they flattered him with more zeroes than we did.
School of Roch: No offers made to Pena or Konerko (updated)
Carlos Pena was apparently "flattered" by an offer Andy MacPhail says he never made. Interesting.
Boston Signs Carl Crawford | FanGraphs Baseball
Didn't see that coming. I'm expecting Cliff Lee to get an offer of 20 years, $1.2 billion now from the Yankees.
Atlanta Adds a True LOOGY in Sherill | FanGraphs Baseball
Flat Breezy takes his talents to the ATL.
Orioles Insider: Orioles tweet on Luke Scott and his Obama comments
If you're interested in reading the team's official statement on the matter, it's here. If you want to read anything else about the situation, here's a Google News search. But I'm kinda done with it, honestly.
Look, Daddy. Teacher says, every time a bell rings an angel gets his Open Thread.
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Geez
I go out for one evening away from the phone/computer and Orioles re-sign Koji and trade for J.J. Hardy. Maybe today while I’m at my work Christmas party they’ll finally lock up Cliff Lee.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Hardy!
Is it me or did the Twins part a little too easily? Granted, he’s not a game-changer but I haven’t heard much of this Jacobson fellow ever since the Huff trade.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 7:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
hey i think the twins basically gave hardy away
but im cool with that!
i could've lived with keeping Hoey
But I’m pretty happy with this overall
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 7:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Hoey was junk
this is a pretty great deal
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Agreed
That guy was awful.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
yeah he was decent
but i think we made out. and did we resign izzy? I hope not dont need him anymore.
yes, as a backup i like him
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Dec 9, 2010 8:48 AM EST up reply actions
Harris?
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
twins ownership...
cheap, cheap, cheap.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
JJ HARDY!!
This guy is def a better hitter than bartlett. and we resign koji, not a bad 72 hours for the orioles. Now if we can get a bat at first base, and Luke Scott to shut up, we will be looking good! Im still hoping that we can trade tillman and bell for something solid…..what yall think?
Trading Tillman and Bell would be silly
I mean, I’m sure I can think of of a few guys who would be worth it, but those are guys who are part of the Orioles future (unilke Jim Hoey)
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
if it gets me prince fielder
im all for it! doubt that would happen but just saying….and I hope im wrong but I dont feel tillman nor bell are ever gonna pan out.
the ceiling on Tillman
Is CRAZY high. I don’t want him to leave just yet.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 7:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1 and it would be selling low
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Dec 9, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions
Wow
I love the Hardy trade! For Jacobson and Hoey we get Hardy?! (and Harris, but ehh on him). Damn, the Twins are dumb.
this
Holy cow!
We get a good SS, get rid of Izzy (sorry Ceaser) (assuming Harris will be backup MI), and all we have to pay is a never- been and someone whose name I barely recall from the Huff trade.
Andy did good.
A learning experience is one of those things that say, "You know that thing you just did? Don't do that."- Douglas Adams
oh and just to throw this out there!
Billy Rowell is gonna have a HUGE season this coming up year!
Hey guys...
can I just bring up the fact that we have now traded 4 bullpen type arms, 3 of which probably wouldnt have sniffed the opening day roster, for the everyday starting left side of the infield? Not to mention a backup infield, Mr. Brendan HARRIS! Woot!
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Also,
i’d like to officially extend an offer of Dennis Sarfate, Alfredo Simon, and Pedro Viola tot he Brewers for Prince Fielder. You guys are on the clock.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
nice! but sarfate's not in the organization anymore
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'd like to see that stop Andy!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 9, 2010 7:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ummm...
It’s a 3 way trade. We’re sending Simon to the Hiroshima Carp, The Carp are sending Sarfate to the Brewers, we send Viola to the Brewers, and then we get Fielder. I’m pretty sure that’s how it’s gonna work.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
haha Dave I thought of you
When I saw Brendan Harris as part of the trade.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 9, 2010 7:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Just let me know when the Brendan Harris jerseys are ready for order.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Brendan Harris T-Shirt Tuesday!
I’ll call it for Tues, July 19th.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
The 7th is my Bday
so the 5th would work out nicely. I can deal if it’s the 19th though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I have connections
I’ll see what I can do about a special Brendan Harris T-Shirt Thursday on July 7th.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Depending on how strong your connections are
You could just have them do a David Harris t-shirt Thursday. That’d be even better.
Hell, I guess I could always have Z design me a Brendan Harris CC shirt is all else fails :)
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I probably could
I mean, would anyone even notice? They handed out Nolan Reimold bobbleheads while the kid was in the minors. Nobody would think twice about them accidentally calling Brendan Harris, “David.” in the promos.
There is a minor leaguer in the Angels’ system named Matt Long that I desperately want to make the majors because that is my brother’s name.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
The new Maryland AD has the same name as me
Makes reading a lot of college sports articles really weird.
There's a Hall of Famer
with my first and last names, and the first two letters of my middle name.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Zach Britton baby!
Can’t wait to rock a “Britton” Os jersey…
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
There was a kid named Duck on Cal about a decade back
Shoulda got a jersey
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
this is a good point
we need to revisit CC t-shirts and see what to add this offseason.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
2 pretty good deals so far
The Reynolds and JJ Hardy deals are upgrades at each position and we didn’t have to give up any MLB talent, or potential. I like it.
It is not often that I give in to this sentiment, but damnit its tough to compete against the Red Sox and Yankees. The Adrian pickup and now Crawford, that really stinks.
I will still hold McPhail’s feet to the fire, but this morning his argument of “The AL East is really competitive” seems to be making sense. AAHHHH!!!!
John S West Jr
by Adam double bubble on Dec 9, 2010 7:31 AM EST reply actions
2 pretty good deals so far
The Reynolds and JJ Hardy deals are upgrades at each position and we didn’t have to give up any MLB talent, or potential. I like it.
It is not often that I give in to this sentiment, but damnit its tough to compete against the Red Sox and Yankees. The Adrian pickup and now Crawford, that really stinks.
I will still hold McPhail’s feet to the fire, but this morning his argument of “The AL East is really competitive” seems to be making sense. AAHHHH!!!!
John S West Jr
by Adam double bubble on Dec 9, 2010 7:31 AM EST reply actions
dear mr. macphail...
i am sorry for doubting you. on balance, i dig both trades.
did the o’s just have to pay league minimum for lugo last year? hard to see how brendan harris isn’t an offensive and defensive upgrade.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
eh
harris isn’t a good fielder, and he isn’t a good hitter. He’ll have to win the backup job from Mr. Robert Andino in Spring Training, and that race is too close to call at this time.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Seems that way
Worth it for Hardy, though. I got Andino coming out of this one with the backup spot. And I’m not ashamed to say I’m gonna miss Cesar. Onward to 1B, Andy.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 9, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
i'd prefer harris to dino...
but, ymmv.
dino’s a stiff.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
now THIS is an important question
Can I just stop calling Jim Johnson JJ? I don’t know that I can. We’ll just have to give JJ Hardy a new name, like Phil.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 9, 2010 8:30 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
New JJ and Old JJ
easy and done
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
not gonna work
becasue new JJ is actually older than old JJ which gives us: new older JJ and old younger JJ
ow. my brain.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
OOH OOH
Can we call Jim Johnson “Double J,” I’d have so many fond childhood wrestling memories..
What up?
Woahh
Crawford to the Red Sox? So much for the “sources close to Crawford” that said all signs pointed to the Angels.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
DRaysBay must be very unhappy.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Makes this all seem kinda futile doesnt it?
Andy pulls off two good moves to add Mark Reynolds and JJ Hardy, and the Red Sox add Carl Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez.
yup
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 9, 2010 8:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
from long dead Base Ball legend Old Hoss Radbourn's twitter
Watching the actions of teams other than the Red Sox and Nationals is liking watching the penniless rookie settle with the armless whore.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'm still optimistic RS will underperform
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
they have to be the best team in baseball on paper
although Crawford is kind of wasted in Fenway. But, remember: they had a pythag record of 88 wins last year without Pedroia and Youkilis for most of the season. They’d need more injuries to derail a potential 100 win season.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
yeah, Crawford's huge defensive value is gonna take a hit in left field at Fenway
Also, it’s interesting that the Red Sox are actually very likely to be worse with Youkilis at 3rd and Gonzalez at 1st than they were last year with Youkilis at 1st and Beltre at 3rd. Still, they’re the big winners of the week so far.
This is exactly why Crawford is now overpaid.
His defense doesn’t fit at Fenway. And his bat isn’t worth $20M/year by itself.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
They can move Crawford to center.
Although Ellsbury is good at defense, too, so you’re wasting someone’s skills. And they probably won’t move the guy they already have at center, so, yeah, Crawford’s defense is being wasted.
both of them have generally been graded out as average at best in center
but plus in left, which could cause a problem i think
i think they'll eventually move crawford to right after jd drew leaves
right field in fenway is a nightmare. you basically need a CF there. crawford is a good fit there except for his weak arm.
Spewing negativity.
Does Crawford to the Sox really hurt?
Not like we’re going to play against him more often, right?
"Ohhh it's baad" - E. Smith
how much can anything hurt when you aren't slated to break .500?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
haha on Twinkie Town it says
Going to Baltimore: J.J. Hardy, Brendan Harris
Going to Minnesota: Britt Jacobsen, Jim Hoey (warm bodies)
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
by Stacey on Dec 9, 2010 8:33 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm actually kind of happy how the roster is shaping up so far.
Still needs work (obviously), but Reynolds and Hardy could be nice little additions. Bring on Lee (both of them)!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
So what does our lineup look like now?
It will be nice having no zero’s in the lineup for once. Unless there are injuries, knocok on wood
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
uh, first guess
Roberts
Markakis
Reynolds
Scott
Jones
Hardy
Wieters
Reimold
Pie
It’s not a great lineup unless some guys decide to freaking development, but it’s certainly an upgrade over last year’s season opening tragedy.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'd go something like
Roberts – S
Markakis – L
Jones- R
Scott- L
Reynolds- R
Wieters- S
Reimold- R
Hardy- R
Pie- L
My guess:
Roberts
Jones
Markakis
Reynolds
Scott
Wieters
Reimold
Pie
Hardy
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
No way Reynolds bats 4th
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
We don't really have a clean-up hitter
Maybe Reynolds and Scott could platoon in that spot depending on the pitcher.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 9, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
It'll either be Reynolds or Scott
They’ll bat 4th and 5th. No way Jones bats 3rd when he swings at everything. I’m reallllllllllllly hoping that Reimold or Wieters can eventually take that spot. I still think Markakis is that guy and having two big bats behind him help.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
disagree about the lineup protection
but I think the overall point: the Orioles need Nicky, Adam, Matt, Felix and/or Nolan to take some serious strides this year. Not next year. This year.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I would put serious money
on all of them being a good deal better than last year. Although I’m not sure it will be as significant as you’re (or I am, for that matter) hoping for. Last year was just brutal.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
Eh...we've never had any real power threat behind before.
You put two 30+ homer threats behind him and at least 1 of those guys is going to see good pitches to hit. My guess is Nicky since he’s the least “scary” when it comes to power.
Last year, outside of Luke, there was nobody that threatening in the lineup. Wieters didn’t hit as well as expected (although he seemed to make some strides late), Jones still has no plate discipline, Reimold was non-existent etc etc.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
I just don't believe that
how does that make any sense? Pitchers seem to know how to get Nicky to be the guy he is. Why would they change the way they pitch to him for the worse because of whoever is behind him?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
What makes you think that? Because he didn't hit home runs?
His walk rate was up, his K rate was down, his OBP was solid. Looks to me like they’re just pitching around him…avoiding giving him anything to hit.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
I was thinking that this is a lot better than last year
When we assumed that positive development was just gonna happen.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Dec 9, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
Hardy is capable of hit 25 homeruns.
He will not be the number 9 hitter.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Might be nice to have a decent hitter down there though
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I would put Pie there.
Decent hitter with speed who can score from first on a B-Rob of Nicky double.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
i dont think you will ever see him hit 25 hrs in the AL east
but i’ll be happy if hits 10-15 and gets on base around .330
I think you over-estimate the pitching in the AL east.
They give up a LOT of homeruns. There are some really good pitchers mixed in, but mostly there are a lot of has beens and almost ares.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
did you post that park factors graph?
that graph from the other day shows that parks in the east seem to favor RH power, too..
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
No
but I remember what you’re talking about.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
that's weird
because Camden, Yankee III, and Fenway all have those short right field porches…you’d think the LH power would play up.
Or maybe it’s just “power plays up in the East”
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Well, Fenways right field porch disappears quickly, though, doesn't it?
But with the others, yeah, you’d expect lefties to do better.
yeah... that's probably true.
I think what’s more useful to look at is that he is 2 years removed from hitting more than 11 (the last 2 seasons were short, but he wasn’t anywhere near being on pace to hit more than 20).
2007: 25
2008: 21
2009: 9
2010: 1
Oh wait… that’s Garrett Atkins. OH NOES!
look on the bright side!
No more Minimum Izturis either!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Haha
I will miss MASN’s commercials with the overlapping narrative voice trying not to laugh "MASN is MAXIMUM IZTURIS…. CESAR… Billie Butler… who WILL own IT!?! Make sure you don’t miss coming out to the yard Wednesday night for Royals-Orioles even though its calling for rain. We have a special on Coors Light @ $7.50 a bottle and only $6 a hot dog!!! DONT MISS IT!!!! THIS is BIRDLAND!
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
god I want the "Who will own it" thing to die in a fire
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
At this point to me it's pure comic relief....
The Orioles offense went through such an inept spurt last year it was amusing what they had to scrape to come up with.
“Last time Izturis faced Bruce Chen, Cesar Izturis walked and was hit by a pitch….. Will he continue his dominance against Chen on Wednesday night? Izturis… Chen…. WHO will OWN it?!”
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Those were the best
Of when they were hyping a divisional game three weeks away because the schedule was so brutal before it.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
haha... that cracked me up.
the hyping of Izturis on MASN really seemed like an inside joke that the guys at MASN were in on. I mean, it had to be, right?!?
Good to see Izturis on his way out
He was like batting a pitcher in an AL lineup. Hardy is still just below average. Hope Machado is a fast riser.
I missed the Luke thing yesterday. I don’t get how this will lead to anything. It’s not like the O’s have any chance of visiting the White House.
Well, we picked up Adrian Rosario from Milwaukee in the draft
he might get flipped to the Twins though
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
The Brewers then get revenge by taking Pat Egan from us
Wynn Pelzer is all like “What the fuck guys?”
No way Egan doesn’t come back to Baltimore.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Error by MLBTR, I think.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
The Mets have taken Pedro Beato
who might actually stick. Lame!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
wonder why
this isn’t on MLB Network. Right now they’re showing stuff from yesterday.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
probably because it took like 2 minutes to do the whole thing and it's boring
and has a 2% or so chance of actually mattering
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
He plays to win EVERY INNING!!!!!
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Manages, whatever
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Bean-O
Gas relief for all!
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
MLBTR says the Mets took Brad Emaus
and Beato wasn’t selected by anyone.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
Nevermind. Beato was taken later on by the Mets. My bad.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
re: pena
fwiw, o’s offer was flattering?
cram it, pal.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
yes!
bring on the gregg to complete our 5 headed monster closer committee.
(okay, not really, but, yay, koji!)
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Why is Hardy so cheap?
Does somebody in Minnesota owe Andy MacPhail a favor? Does he still have power of attorney up there? Does he have photographs of someone in the Twins FO in a compromising position? Seriously, this is a very uneven trade.
he's a free agent next winter and due for a relatively big raise
and isn’t exactly a world beater offensively. And the Twins just brought in the new Japanese guy, and its a buyers market for shortstops right now.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Just checked out twinkletown blog
Lots of speculation along the lines of: the FO better know something we don’t, Gardy just didn’t like JJ, we demand an explanation, etc.. They sound a lot like…like us.
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 9, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
The two contracts are almost $8M combined
and they’re looking to add in other places, like Matt Capps. But yeah, somebody important in MIN soured on Hardy in a hurry and is definitely selling low. PGA might be ordering a more exhaustive physical just in case, I bet.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
again, though, he's a free agent next year
it’s tough to not sell low when you’re in a corner like that.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I thought he played SS....
I kid, I kid.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions
yeah....
….but this low? Luke Scott could have outbid the organization with a moonshine still and two rounds of buckshot.
they're just really cheap, seriously.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
The Orioles?
The moonshine still?
Or the buckshot?
Seems like the moonshine still might cost several grand.
twinkies...
i don’t know if things have changed musch since carl pohlad died, but he was public enemy #1 w/ the big market teams that carped about revenue sharing.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
might be nothing deeper than a salary dump
cutting 8 million off the books could be significant for em
I also heard that they want the salary relief so they can pour it into re-signing Pavano
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
The Twin I'd worry about a more exhaustive physical for is Delmon Young
Pretty sure Pavano did some permanent damage back in July…
"They're throwing bottles at your house...Come one, let's go break their arms." - Henry Fool
by Fahrenheit 451 on Dec 9, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
One shot and I'm through.....
I swear!!…..If only one opposing team will have the courage to play the banjo riff from ‘Deliverance’ whenever Luke comes to bat then I will die a happy man…..(my tremendous discipline and self control runs in a 24 hour loop with one mulligan a day)….
you look just like a hog, boy.
sorry, I had to. that scene was at the height of 70’s cinema depravity.
on a related note
just saw Winter’s Bone.
a new standard for scary ass hillbillies.
by snotboogie on Dec 9, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this
best movie of the year.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Love the trade
O’s upgrade offensively at SS from Izturis without sacrificing much defensively and I like getting Harris as they needed a utility IF and he’s more versatile than Izturis who to my knowledge has never played a corner IF spot. Now they need to wrap up getting a 1B and perhaps some more pitching.
are we in the running for Pavano?
I’d love to add a good veteran starter.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
How are those two statements related?
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 9, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
ouch
Pavano wasn’t bad last year, he’d have been near the top of our staff in…pretty much everything.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
He also pitched predominately in the AL Central
Gotta take that into account
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 9, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
nope
The BA crew are reviewing it and they like what a few teams did (not the Orioles), but it’s mostly just relievers who won’t even make it to Opening Day.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Am I the only one who thinks Hardy might actually be better than Cesar defensively?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
no...
cesar seems to be in decline and i think hardy is at worst as good cesar and may be a bit better. couldn’t have said the same for bartlett.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Heard that the Koji base salary is 3 million
with lots of incentives…which, you know, makes the decision to not offer arbitration look pretty smart. Which it did all along, but now that’s pretty hard to argue with, isn’t it?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Yeah,
I had wanted them to offer arb, but I couldn’t be happier with how things have worked out.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I have to think they knew Koji wanted to come back here
I mean it could have backfired, but it seems the things we get worked up about like this (like Steve Johnson getting Rule 5 drafted) usually work out in Andy’s favor in the end.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
i think...
as steeped in old school, front office dogma as he is, he’s a lot more cagey than people give him credit for.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Oh...I thought I was the only one who thought it was smart not to offer him arb.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
...I thought I was the only one!
so this is what it feels like to not be alone
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Haha...I remember arguing with somebody....dfa I think, about this
He wanted the change at a draft pick even with the higher salary. I was going for the lower base salary with incentives all the way.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, i said he would get a raise in arb from his $5M salary and got slack from people.
Spewing negativity.
Hey, I admitted I was deluding myself about that. :P
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Woah...we actually agreed on something?
That doesn’t happen often.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
it happens all the time. we just don't bother to give each a butt slap when it happens.
Spewing negativity.
Coulda fooled me
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
that shouldn't be hard :)
i could go through all the recent threads and put a +1 by all the comments i agree to show you.
Spewing negativity.
Probably
Nice sig by the way.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
From Dan Connolly:
Koji Uehara’s contract terms not officially released, but expect a 3 million base w incentives that could reach a cuple more mill
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
one of the incentives might be...
to not look so hot, or sweat so much when it’s just average heat..
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 9, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks to a certain Oriole baseball card blogger on here...
I’ve been buying some packs of card recently. I’ve got a Koji card where he looks HORRIBLE. His face is all splotchy and he looks overheated. I’ll have to scan it in and post it. You think they could have picked a more flattering picture for the back of his card…
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on Dec 9, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
The official trade announcement for JJ Hardy will be at noon
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
you missed th C key
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
It's kind of sad - if we manged that (or similar), I'd consider the offseason a pretty nice win for us
but it’ll still be completely overshadowed because, well, AL East.
Its a broken system
Also, now i think we try and lock up that 1B stud. I think they could put us in the thick of things if we get the right one.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Dec 9, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
i am 100% sure we’d be overshadowed if we landed a legit 1b at this point.
it’s certainly possible or even probable.
but…. ya never know
But really how much better will this team be than last yeah
even if we don’t get anyone else….
heck the O’s infield last year hit 33 HRs…now we can easily have 100+
MR- ~40 JJ- ~25 B-Rob- ~10 and Lee- ~20 (or Luke- ~30)
Easily might be a stretch
40 and 25 are upper range for those guys, but yeah, certainly a hell of a lot better offensively than last year
I'll say this
it will at least double last year’s offensive output in terms of runs produced.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
home runs hit****
that would be one hell of an offense though…
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong -
even if the bosox/nyy manage to make our trades/signs look like minor league deals, I’m thinking our 2011 underdog team will be a hell of a lot more fun to watch, at least :)
that's a pretty good question
how much better did the Orioles get?
Last year at short the Orioles got averaged -0.7 WAR. At third it was -0.7 averaged WAR (or so).
Hardy was worth 1.9 averaged WAR.
Reynolds was worth 1.6 averaged WAR.
Obviously there’s a lot of variables and projections to be made, but it’s in the neighborhood of 5 wins picked up if performances hold steady (which they won’t).
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
no way
5 whole wins?
I think this team is better than 5 wins better than last year but as you said, projections don’t hold up
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
well I just mean by upgrading
Reynolds over Bell and Tejada and Hardy over Izturis.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Please don't forget...
the improvement provided by BRob being at 2B and someone other than Garrett Atkins playing 1B.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
this x100000
B-rob playing a full season (wishful thinking) is huge
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
Unless it's Brendan Harris
Just sayin’.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 9, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
im not forgetting it
but I’m only talking about the improvements at short and third. Which is somewhere in neighborhood of 5 wins unless those guys dive off the cliff.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I don't know
I can’t see how the Rays got any better with the guys they lost. The Red Sox are obviously much better with Crawford and Gonzo, the Yankees will inevitably end up with Cliff Lee, but what has Toronto done?
We’re making some small moves that, on paper of course, make us a better team. Considering how bad the team was last year, I can see this translating to reality. Even if Hardy doesn’t hit to career average, anything is better than the black hole in the lineup that was Izzy. Reynolds is limited defensively, but I can’t see him being that much worse than Wiggles, and he’s somewhat of a more proven power threat.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I think Toronto is gonna load up those Halladay prospects and package a deal for Greinke
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
yeah, but...
they still have to put runs on the board, bautista will not repeat and they will not take 15 games from the o’s this year.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
neither would Greinke
he’s not going to repeat 2009 IMO
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
but...
you have to figure he would at least replace marcum’s production, if not slightly surpass.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
pitching 8+ games against NYY and BOS?
From what I hear, the kid is fragile. REALLY fragile. He’s one of those 21st century kids who’s on more pills than my grandfather. Kid’s a pharma rep’s wet dream. If he pitches in the AL East, it will be like the opening scene to ‘The Scout’; kid’ll lock himself on the john and we’ll never hear from him again. It’s in everyone’s best interest if he stays in KC, far away from the light of day.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
He's dealt with depression in a very public...
way. Doesn’t mean he’s fraglie. It means he’s a fucking human.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I think none of us understand mental disease enough to comment, really
it’s just used as a platform to make unqualified statements have something behind them.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Sorry that was too harsh... but that's what people say about him
That he doesn’t even want to be traded to the AL East. He has said the right things about going anywhere where he has a chance to win, but I just don’t see it.
Not trying to belittle people who deal with depression or social anxiety… just don’t think that he’ll succeed in that situation. There is a specific psychological make-up that someone needs to have to be the ace of a staff for a contender in the AL East. If he goes there and is successful, then more power to him.
But in the end Halladay > Greinke in any equation, and if you turn the prospects you got for one into the other, then you are selling short.
"Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand.."
He also has a no-trade clause
that includes all large market teams. He has recently said that he would waive it, but he clearly has wanted to stay out of the spotlight.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
I think he's decided that staying out of the spotlight < winning
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I wish the best for him
but it won’t be worth winning if he has another break down like he did a few years back.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
Seems...
kinda dumb doesn’t it?
They aren’t one pitcher away – if they were then why trade Halladay?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I still don't get trading Marcum
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Odd, but maybe they have some big plan...
we don’t know about. I’d be shocked if they moved any of the pieces they got for Halladay for another pitcher.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Reynolds is only somewhat of a better power hitter?
significantly better power hitter than Wiggy
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Also a better defender.
-5.9 UZR/150 and comparable DRS while improving year-to-year, while Wiggy is -16.1 UZR/150 and erratic.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I meant both of these things
But every time I say it, I seem to get a negative nancy that tells me Reynolds sucks and such.
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
Plus, and I almost hate to say it
but you have to factor in some sort of momentum carryover from the tail end of ‘10 – I’d almost never buy into that sort of thing, but we’ll have a few “fresh start” blah blah blah players trying to prove themselves, plus maybe seeing stats for the middle of the lineup more in-tune with second half numbers.
Spring training numbers might be a tiny, tiny bit more significant this time around.
contract year for hardy...
SLG north of .400 would be gravy.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Haha
Sportsnation has a poll up on the front page of espn.com
“Who will win the AL East next year if the Yankees get Cliff Lee”
Yankees
Red Sox
Rays
Other
I mean, you couldnt have just listed the other two teams that qualify as “other”. Don’t sleep on BUCK BABY!!!
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 10:19 AM EST reply actions
And the funny thing is:
“Other” is beating the Rays right now… haha
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
that's what I'm talkin about
some local pride, good on ya B-more.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Poor Ontario
Not even on the mouse-over map … just lumped in with “international.”
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 9, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
More from Dan Connolly:
#Orioles and 1Bman Adam LaRoche have mutual interest and have talked. No formal offer made yet, but thats prolly matter of time
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
wow
this would be a crazy offseason if we could lock up LaRoche.
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
I know that Twitter has limits
But Connolly drives me crazy with his spellings. Culd instead of could, not “prolly.” Newsflash, Dan, you could have just said 1B instead of 1Bman and then spelled out probably.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
I actually like "prolly"
because that’s how a good baltimoron says it. Or at least how I say it.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
My favorite comment about this news is from MLBTR
Dear Orioles,
I like you. Do you like me?
[ ] yes
[ ] no
xoxox Adam
What will it be like to have a first baseman who both isn't terrible and has actually played first base in the major leagues before this year?
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 9, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
hardy trade...
was on hold b/c the league has to approve an exchange of money? is macca going to get $ from minnesota, too? insanity!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
no way, the o's have to be giving them money right?
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 9, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
the league only needs to approve deals where the cash is more than 1 million
it has to be coming to the Orioles.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Two big pieces of news
1. The Christmas party that the Orioles throw for the kiddos is next Thursday and Scott McGregor will play Santa Claus. It is almost always Uncle Dempsey. Are they on the outs?
2. I am four posts away from my 1000th post on SBN (5 have been on sites other than CC). Pretty crazy.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
At first i was trying to figure out how you had under a 1000 posts
and then i realized you meant posts and not comments. wow.
Wowzers.
I have 2 or 3.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
I have 26,039 comments
Actually, I guess now I have 26,040 comments.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
And apparently in the excitement of the last few days, I missed my 10,000th comment
I was planning on making a big deal about it.
figures #10,000 was about cooking
I hate when i go to trader joe’s and they have everything i need but one thing, this seems to happen all the time
I was really going to be annoyed if it was about Luke Scott.
Wow....I'm up past 14,000 now
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
Although only about 13000 on CC
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
ug I only have 8,000
I need to step up my offseason game.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 9, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Can't help it
I like attention :-)
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
So just post some random crap so we can have a posting milestone party
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
by twistedlogic on Dec 9, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
The O's are getting some cash too
Connolly just tweeted the O’s will be getting 500,000$ from the twins, I love this deal
Do eet.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see any reason to at all
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I'd have to look at next years shortstop market
if its a weak class and you could convince him to sign a reasonable deal, it would be nice to just not have to worry about it anymore until Machado is ready.
Quite a few FA SS after 2011. No need to right now.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/03/2012-mlb-free-agents.html
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 9, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
same characters...
that were available this year, seems, plus jimmy rollins (who doesn’t excite me at 33+).
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
we simply don't know enough about hardy's performance level to justify an extension
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Infante and Reyes make it a bit more interesting than this year.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 9, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
Andy Said...
That extensions beyond this year is something he would look at in spring training, and the fact that reynolds is 27 and Hardy is 28, is something that “excites” him. The more I hear him talk the more I think he’s going to do something stupid with firstbase, if we don’t get someone good I am going to be Pisssseddddd
Theres really no one left at 1st that i would rate better than 'meh'
without trading for someone, which i think right now would be a mistake.
unfortunately...
meh is a huge upgrade.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Theres only two moves i think they could make at this point that really scare me
1) Prince Fielder trade
2) Type A reliever
As long as neither of those happens, I’m pretty happy with this offseason regardless of what we decide to do at first base.
Andy should..
Contact Cincinnati and see if they need any relief help, and try to get their first baseman, I think his name is something like Votta, Veto, or Votto… Anyway, I hear he’s decent.
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 9, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'd like them to contact Cinncy in re their AAA 1B, Alonso.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 9, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Wait..
So you’re saying that some teams have more than one competent first basemen? What a noble concept..
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 9, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
I always figured it was meant to be a utility position....
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it's wear you hide your worst bat.
And try to get some serious defensive value.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Alonso is still only a prospect. I don't know how competent he is just yet.
He played in 22 games for the Reds last year. But he looks to have a lot of potential, and he ain’t sniffing 1B in the ’Natti anytime soon.
There is also Mark Trumbo in the LAA org. Same deal as Alonso, a lot of potential and blocked by a quality player at the ML level.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
by PBR me ASAP! on Dec 9, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
yeah i'm a little familiar with Alonso
I doubt they’d give him up, if so it would probably take an arm and a leg.
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 9, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
If only it were Alber's arm and leg.
I could even see throwing in the other arm and leg for free.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
he's got some plate discipline issues from what I've read,
but he’s still a pretty good prospect
I might be alone in this, but I would be fine with a Scott, Reimold, Reynolds 1B semi-platoon.
I don’t have any interest in an aging D Lee, although I wouldn’t have an issue with LaRoche either.
Idk, have I posted this recently? I thought I hadn't said that in several weeks.
Or do others agree with me?
i've seen it mentioned several times here
i dont like the idea of going into the season of being forced to play Reimold essentially everyday
not you specifically
but the whole reimold/luke @ 1B is not nor should it be the answer. I still have a strong feeling that if Buck was going to have either of those two playing 1B next year then they would taking ground balls somewhere as we speak. As of now, Moldy is the 4th OF and Luke is the DH.
why can Luke not be the answer?
He was the 8th best hitter in the AL last year by wRC+. He’s gonna be damn sure better than D Lee will be this year. I would be ok with LaRoche because he’ll be comparably cheap. People just don’t realize how good of a hitter that Luke Scott is. If you don’t want Reimold getting starting at-bats sign a cheap DH-type.
it is not that I don't want Luke in the lineup
that is why I said he is the everyday DH. I don’t want Luke’s lack of experience at 1B sucking it up. Reimold at this point has to prove he belongs in a ML lineup let alone 1B. But at the least, he should get a spot on the roster as the 4th OF unless he shows up in ST in 2009 form and beats out Pie.
You know who sucks at 1B? Prince Fielder
And yet everyone is begging and pleading for the O’s to trade for him and sign him to some huge multi-year deal.
I am not saying Fielder is the only answer
LaRoche would be a reasonable upgrade at the postion where both Luke and him could be in the lineup.
if andy signs reynolds to an extension, i'm going to barf
he has 2 years and an option left for the love of fuck.
Spewing negativity.
I like Laroche
Laroche is consistent and if we can get him for, 2 years or even one I’d be all for it
Not to be rude,
but please use the “reply” function — it’s at the bottom of each comment, and makes it a lot easier to keep track of converations.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Yeah Zachery, WW is right: the rest of us all know how to use reply
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
lol at Wieters Wieners.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions
Yeah, what Andrew said
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
oh!
A brand new infield for Christmas The Winter Holidays!
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 9, 2010 11:53 AM EST reply actions
Luke, is that you?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Some other "blogs" which aren't really blogs
are stuck in the past praising a Reimold-for-Bartlett trade.
With bad grammar and multiple typos, no less. And bad analysis. In the same sentence! “To me, this tells me he’s not a Showalter guy for whatever reason.”
OK, not starting a flame war, I’m just amused. And happy to be reading Maryland’s Best Blog.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
As far as timing
That was published Tuesday, when Bartlett for Reimold was still a possibility.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
yes,
and today is Thursday.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
and you're being a kissass
they won’t unban you, you know.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Wait, what?
I’m just saying that when he posted that article on Tuesday, it was newsworthy. Now, not so much, but when it was posted, it was.
Trust me, I’m sure the proprietor of OH would cringe if he thought I was defending him over here.
And I could not care less if they unban me. Screw ’em.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
see how I said they're stuck in the past?
see how it’s Thursday, and they argue that they’re a “blog”, but their content is two days old?
see?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Two days is a bit picky
If that’s his latest entry by Monday, then I see your point.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
If it was a blog there would be space for comments.
Isn’t that sort of one of the rules for what defines a blog?
Where are my shoelaces?
Rotoworld on Orioles Rule 5 pick, Adrian Rosario
Orioles selected RHP Adrian Rosario from the Brewers with the fourth pick in the Rule 5 Draft.
Rosario, 21, posted a 3.50 ERA and 59/18 K/BB ratio over 46 1/3 innings between rookie ball and Single-A Wisconsin this past season. His strikeout rate exploded from 6.9 K/9 in 2009 to 11.5 K/9 this year, so it’s no surprise to see that the Orioles were intrigued
I don’t know how he makes the team though.
Librarians are hiding something
DCAB did it!
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Remember he almost won rookie of the year though...
and that start against the yankees! And that fastball!! Just because he failed miserably doesn’t mean he didn’t stick.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Samesies.
You gotta wonder what he could have been had he been brought up in a competent system.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
so did Fio!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
others...
that lambert kid they got looks interesting. the other two look like crap.
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how he makes the team though.
you stash him in the pen, he’ll play in blow outs, and his development rots. if the pen doesn’t get burned out, he might make it the entire season.
Spewing negativity.
we got it to work with randor bierd
so its not impossible…just really, really unlikely.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
maybe they want to include him in a trade...
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Wow
Andy MacPhail quoted UZR as a measure of Hardy’s good defense. I think the stats nerds just won the internet!
Next step: getting him to read the UZR charts correctly, since Hardy wasn’t at the “absolute top” of the UZR leaderboards at short. But close enough for the gov’t on a Thursday!
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Maybe he meant
highest UZR/150 with 700+ innings?
I dunno, I’m trying. Nice to see him using advanced stats regardless.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
meh
What about his intangibles?
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Less than Jeter, more than ARod.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
so with the rest of the league?
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 9, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Just because you know how to read, doesn't mean you'll like the book.
by arlingtonOsFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I enjoy sucking less than we did yesterday.
This off-season has been fun so far.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
If we get LaRoche, I'm ready to grade this offseason from a B- to a solid B+
by LoveForTheGame13 on Dec 9, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed.
And I’d say, depending on how the bullpen shapes up, we could still pull off an A-.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
i have an uneasy feeling about Laroche though
What up?
by snakethejake on Dec 9, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing can be worse than The Atkins Experiment
so why not? not many options at this point
"You know how I get the safety? No safety so I went to hit Ray, and I lost...BAD" Chad Johnson on trying to block the great #52
C+ for me
Yeah, we did some upgrades, but we need people better than we got manning those positions. And the contracts or trades necessary to get those people make it cost-prohibitive. We went from “almost historically bad” in 2010 to “almost league average” in 2011 to me.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
it's a C+ for me as well
it’s a bunch of stop gaps. No long term benefits made to the team, and no contending in 2011. Under those parameters, C+ is as good as it gets.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
On the flip side, look at the contracts flying around so far
And there’s still the Cliff Lee numbers to see. We didn’t sign anything Nats-style like that, yet, and still made some halfway decent improvements.
B-, B+ if we get a favorable trade for 1b.
would you give a child a chocolate covered macaroon
for not burning down the Christmas tree?
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
If they burned it down the 3 previous Decembers?
Absolutely.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
but your goal is to get the kid
to not only not burn things in general, but to be a functioning member of society…through the use of cookies, apparently. You’re just lowering the value of the cookie if you reward the kid for not being a complete asshole.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
baby steps
cookies initially for not being a complete asshole and then eventually cookies only for positive contributions.
I am eating you, motherfucker. You cannot hurt me. - PhilR8
anyone who doesn't love macaroons is excused from answering the question
because I do not want to talk to them ever.
I kid, I kid.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Macaroons, ribbon candy, 15+ year old Werther's Originals in a glass dish..
I actually like all of these things, but c’mon :P
Macaroons are delicious.
The only thing I look forward to about Pesach food: macaroons and jelly candies.
Where are my shoelaces?
a coconut cookie
perhaps the worst kind of cookie health wise but sooo tasty
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
oh, always called them coconut cookies
didn’t realize there was an official name
my girlfriend loves them
and they’re delic. if you’re in LA, Paulette’s is famous for them.
Spewing negativity.
I prefer the almond kind
Not that bad for you either… you know, for a cookie.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 9, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I take a "first, do no harm" approach
and this offseason has definitely accomplished that. The improvements that Reynolds and Hardy offer push this solidly into B range for me … even though the team as a whole is struggling to get a C. Most of that will be determined by young players’ development, not solved by offseason acquisitions.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 9, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
White Sox get a high grade, too
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I graded it from an Orioles perspective
considering there was no way we were going to make a splash and no way they make a blockbuster trade, and I would NOT give up talent for 1 year of Fielder. Just spend all the money on Pujols next offseason ;)
by LoveForTheGame13 on Dec 9, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
It's the old grading cunundrum
Do I grade against an absolute standard (90% =A, making the playoffs) or do I grade relative to past performance? (Student turned in higher % of assignments, are we better than the 2010 O’s)?
I grade against an absolute standard – what did we do to get this team to the playoffs? What we did was build a better temporary bridge to our hoped-for future star players than we had last year. But we didn’t build a substantially better team.
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Well, when you put it that way
I have to agree with you because, yes we are significantly better than last year (on paper) but, not significantly better to even make a run for the playoffs. I just hope this team takes a big enough step forward so big name free agents next season will take a look at us.
by LoveForTheGame13 on Dec 9, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
It should be graded on what DID we do vs. what COULD we have done....
There wasn’t a chance in hades we were landing Crawford/Lee etc without giving them some ludicrous contraft for 8 years, 220 million. So basically we were up shit creek there. We cant look at what Boston did and just be like “oh, we failed”. Its about doing the most you can, with what you have, where you are… and to that end, I give us a solid B+ at this point. Its hard to replace 3/4ths of your infield in ONE season with semi-competent players when the only sure thing you had was B-Rob going into the winter meetings. We might just be coming out with all 4 positive WAR players for once in a decade. I call that a decent week. Fuck what Boston and New York buy… we just don’t have that luxury.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions
"We might just be coming out with all 4 positive WAR players for once in a decade"
Meant to add ‘in our infield’.
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
i know a lot of people say the only thing that is important is making the playoffs,
but when you lose as long as we have just being a winning team is just fine by me. If the Orioles can do that without depleting our farm system or signing ridiculous contracts with older guys (i’m looking at you nationals) than have at it.
I think the moves they’ve made this year definitely put us in the right direction, even if it only makes us an 84 win team and we still finish last in the ALE. Why not enjoy a little succes while you wait for 2013 Orioles to blossom?
there's only so much you can improve in a year....
….when you play in the AL east and have lost for 13 straight years. Some options are just off the table.
We’re a solid B in my mind, B+ if we get Laroche.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
just to life in general?
hello, REPLY button?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Hard hitting journalism on the front page of SI by Frank Deford
about how baseball players don’t shake hands. Imagine what kind of groundbreaking analysis we would be graced with if Deford, Rick Reilly, and the Wikileaks files were put in the same room.
we'd have proof...
that this sort of rudeness goes all the way to the top!
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
by j.q. higgins on Dec 9, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Watching Boardwalk Empire finale right now
good stuff
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 9, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions
I like JJ Hardy
I hope we sign him to extension now if we can get a bit of discount since we’re signing before he hits free agency market. His defense is very solid and his bat is more than adequate for a SS. W/o the extension, like Reynolds, Millwood, etc, I’m mostly indifferent because it’s an inbetween move. I’m glad we gave up crap and the Twins are cheap asses.
Spewing negativity.
The very idea...
that we got a league average SS for a failed relief prospect in Hoey and a spare part from a August trade 16 months ago makes me wonder if Hardy and MIN aren’t hiding an injury. There’s no way we got a guy with an MLB bat at SS for that from a front office that’s known for its acumen, is there?
"It has nothing to do with corruption. It's sheer, complete, total incompetence." - Joe Rogan
Maybe
but part of it is that both guys we got were relatively expensive players with obvious shortcomings in their game … they’re coming from teams that had become frustrated with what they can’t do, while the Orioles are desperate enough to be in a situation to appreciate what they can do.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
if you're a twins fan, you should be pissed
I think they’re cheap rather than Hardy hiding an injury (especially since Hardy hit well late in the season), but I’m just guessing. I noticed elsewhere that Gardy doesn’t like Hardy so that might be a factor too.
Spewing negativity.
supposedly they had some issues with how he plays SS.
He plays too deep, won’t steal bases, etc. Not sure if that’s true or not because I always thought the Twins were a smart-ish front office.
yeah i tought i read somewhere (probably here)
that Gardenhire didn’t like how he played or something… Also they have the Japanese SS they are trying to work a deal with.. They have a relatively decent middle infield without Hardy.
What up?
the guy has to pass a physical for the trade to work
the twins could be concerned or perhaps know something we don’t about the effects of his previous injuries on his performance in 2011, though.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
from Buster Olney
20. The Orioles will get their shortstop today, as Dan Connolly writes. The Orioles agreed to terms with a pitcher.
You wonder if the Orioles could develop into a wild card in the Adrian Beltre conversations — because they have money to spend and Beltre needs a landing place. Baltimore could shift Mark Reynolds to first base to make room for the best defensive third baseman in the majors.
I was thinking the same thing with Boston and NYY out.
Spewing negativity.
Only if we can sign him to a 1 year deal with 4-5 club options
Beltre needs to feel like he’s perpetually in a contract year
Has that been done in the history of ever?
But I agree. It’d be nice to get him here for less than $12 per at three plus years.
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'd guess its not even possible under the CBA
but even if it is, no way anyone would ever agree to a deal like that.
that's sorta...
like what boston does w/ wakefield, no?
At all hazards, a man must keep up appearances. Dignity, I say. Dignity above all, Governor. Hear, hear!
-Det. William "Bunk" Moreland
Boras said yesterday that Beltre doesn't want to play in Baltimore period
which is an odd thing for an agent to say. triply so if it isn’t true.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
also,
That works both ways Scottie boy. Offers may always be in the room but that applies to client interest as well.
Spewing negativity.
The LAA will throw the bulk of the $ they set aside for Crawford at Beltre now.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
i should say
they hate boras to the point that they might have an informal ban with him like the White Sox.
Spewing negativity.
The guys he represents probably love him.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
who is the pitcher?
20. The Orioles will get their shortstop today, as Dan Connolly writes. The Orioles agreed to terms with a pitcher.
What up?
Koji?
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Koji
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
Winner.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Todd Frohwirth?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Russ Ortiz?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
The Adam Eaton Incident?
And right now I can honestly say y'all are getting a paycheck for nothing. - Josh Howard
by TerroristFistJab on Dec 9, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Just 24 hours after offering him 6 years, $140M,
the Yankees have expanded their offer to Lee to seven years.
They DO know he’s going to be 39 in the last year of that deal, right?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Let's give him 8.
Bring back Luis Matos.
by WestcoastO'sFan on Dec 9, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
how about 12.
i’m sooo looking forward to seeing cliff lee break down by year 3 or 4 year of his 7 year contract.
Spewing negativity.
oh man i hope he signs somewhere else
and the Yankees get totally shut out on top free agents this offseason. They have be terrified of being embarrassed like that.
"shutout of top free agents"
but they got teh JEETAH!! 1!!1
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
well, duh.
i stan by it as well.
so far, the yankees have signed scrubs and mariano rivera. who got a serious offer from the bosox, btw
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
If the Yankers somehow manage to lose out on Lee
they just might end up getting nothing this off-season (setting aside the re-signing of Jeets and Mo). That would be something spectacular right there.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
I'll die if they freak out and get Derrick Lee and sign him to a huge multi-year extension
Just to tell the fans “OH yeah baby…. your 2011 YANKS just added DERRRRRRICK LEEEEEEE!!!!”
by Wieters Wieners on Dec 9, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
They might just freak out and trade Montero to the Nats for Willingham.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
Unfortunately
I think it would be best for the Yankees not to sign Cliff Lee to a long deal. Throwing tons of money at him and watching his career fall apart in a few years would be awesome.
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
The $$$ doesn't matter to the Yankers. They have their own printing press.
The only conceivable negative for them signing Lee to a 6 or 7 year deal would be the roster spot he would occupy in those later years after he has broken down, a la Albert Belle.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
gah!
Albert Belle did NOT take up a roster spot when he was hurt and retired.
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
I thought the O's were required to keep him on the 40 man for a while in order for the insurance to pay off?
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
that doesn't even make sense to me
I could dream it forever and still not do it, but when the time comes for it to be done, God, I want to be ready for it.
ahh, my understanding is clarified.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
this x 100
plus, we’d be guaranteed to beat them at least twice a year.
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
"We have eliminated a club"
Wonder what team that was. Who was bidding on him again?
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
trying to keep WM discussion here
that thread should only be about grading the moves so far, IMHO
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Does anyone have a subscription to insider?
I just saw this Tweet:
SeanMMcNally No Pavano, Webb or LaRoche for #Nats, so sayeth @Buster_ESPN who "kinda wonders if … team won’t “go off the board.” What does that mean?
There’s nothing in Olney’s twitter feed along these lines, so I assume it’s in his daily column.
I’m interested in this for two reasons:
- If the Nats are truly not pursuing LaRoche anymore, that’s excellent news for us.
- I forgot all about Carl Pavano. Last I read, there are only a couple of teams pursuing him. I would have no problem with the O’s offering him a 2- or 3- year deal. He’ll probably get someone else to go longer, but seriously, the guy has reinvented himself, and while I’m not in the camp that thinks we NEED a veteran, I’ll have no problem if we sign a guy whose career WHIP in the AL is 1.32
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
weird. wonder what that dude was referring to?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
Plus, Pavano could teach Arrieta how to grow a 'stache.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
nah you've got it confused
other way around
Straight cash homey
Pro Football South
Get 'em.
by danielreese05 on Dec 9, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Jake's 'stache looked lop-sided on TV. Maybe it looks normal in person, I dunno.
But Pavano’s was 70’s porno worthy.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
I know bacon's a popular topic here,
so I present a bacon… nativity?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
AWESOME
But that thing is in an oven. Are they going to actually broil the baby Jesus now?
"I put a pepper rub on the scallops so you have a little contrast. You have sweetness from the coconut oil and little acidity from the splash of lemon." – Luke Scott
I knew bacon was the fruit of the Gods!
If you were a hotdog would you eat yourself? I know I would.
by Knubles and Bits on Dec 9, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
I think that it is perhaps time to listen to Christmas music for the first time this year
I’m just home from my work Christmas lunch.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Crank it up & pour the egg nog.
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM… Egg nog.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Ohhhhhhh, I want...
"One way to lower a flag to half-mast is just to lower the flag. There's another way, though. You can raise the pole to like twice its original height." - Infinite Jest
by Eat More Esskay on Dec 9, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Baltimore Orioles is the #8 trending topic on Google right now
It’s the bandwagoners! They’re arriving!
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Honeysuckle is a hotter search than the Orioles right now.
yeah it's gone now
but I swear it was there. I still had it on my screen when someone gchatted me, “Are you sure?” and when I refreshed it was gone.
You never know when someone is gonna sneak up on ya at the dolphin show! -wrb1990
Hello folks
thought i would stop by and wish you all HAPPY HOLIDAYS
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 9, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
I reward this with
I don’t have much tolerance for stupid. Or cheese on food that doesn’t need it. -duck
So much work for such a little thing
waste of my precious time, which is better spent on Camden Chat.
"If people don't want to come out to the ballpark, how are you going to stop them?" Yogi Berra
I like gardening.
But invasive plants suck. Ivy is charming to a point. Honeysuckle tastes good so it has that going.
Where are my shoelaces?
We here in Birdland would be an awful lot happier if your Sox hadn't just pulled off a coup in landing AGonz & CC.
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
Plus, you cut loose our fav. Sox player, Okijima. We always looked forward to him warming up in the 'pen.
But, if you guys sign Rich Hill, well, that would be swell indeed!
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/12/jeter-cameron-rich-hill.html
Now, Harold, he's a friendly guy. He rambles on and on. He'll talk the balls off a rhino-saurus.~Primus, Harold of the Rocks
no one was more shocked then i when theo made those deals
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 9, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
What's shocking?
They had the prospects for Gonzalez and they had the money for Crawford. It’s not like either of these moves came out of nowhere.
i had thought the padres would hold on to him till the deadline
and cc would cost to much $$ ….but that shows us all what i know lol
by RED SOX are #1 in my heart on Dec 9, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, I believe you. When I refreshed the Trends homepage after 5 minutes it shuffled a little.
But honestly. Honeysuckle.
Any The Office fans here?
Who’s excited for Holly’s return?! In comparison to the disaster that was season 6, season 7 has been pretty solid.
Where are my shoelaces?
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