I don't understand why Rob Dibble has a job
As I was sitting in gridlock on the way to work today I flipped to XM's baseball station. I hadn't listened to it in awhile but being that we're close to the start of the season it seemed worth a try.
For any of you that listen to the station, how long has Rob Dibble been on the morning show? Ugh. I disagree with everything that comes out of that man's mouth. In fact, if I'm ever not sure what to think of something I'll ask Rob Dibble and then believe the opposite of what he says.
The topic of the morning was players who you'd like to see have a strong comeback after a bad 2009 season. One of the first callers said Jimmy Rollins. Pretty good choice as Jimmy had a rough time at the plate last year. So what does Rob Dibble have to say about that?
"If you look at the numbers, Rollins actually had a better year in 2009 than he did in 2008. Yeah his on base percentage was down some but he scored 100 runs in 2009. In 2008 he only scored 76 runs. So even though he didn't get on base as much he proved that he can get on base when it counts. If I'm a manager I'd take Jimmy Rollins' 2009 over his 2008 any day because he does what it takes to win." (this isn't verbatim, obviously, but I'm confident that I'm not mis-representing him in any way)
I mean. COME THE FUCK ON. Here are Jimmy's numbers in '08 and '09 by the way (he missed time in '08 with an early season trip to the DL):
| 2008 |
2009 |
|
| G |
137 |
155 |
| PA |
625 |
725 |
| AVG/OBP/SLG |
.277/.349/.437 |
.250/.296/.423 |
| OPS+ |
103 |
86 |
| 2B |
38 |
43 |
| HR |
11 |
21 |
| SB/CS |
47/3 (94%) |
31/8 (79%) |
| BB |
55 |
44 |
| R |
76 |
100 |
With the exception of home runs Jimmy Rollins was better in pretty much every category in 2008 (if you're into the more advanced stats, FanGraphs tells a similar story). But this really isn't about Jimmy Rollins. It's about Rob Dibble.
I don't care about runs but since Dibble used runs scored as pretty much the only reason that Rollins had a better '09 than '08, let's take a look at them. Simple math tells me that 76 runs in 625 plate appearances is 0.1216 R/PA while 100 runs in 725 PA is 0.1379 R/PA, meaning that if Rollins had 100 more plate appearances '08 he may have scored about 88 runs. Still less than in '09 but a 12 run difference over 155 games is less than a tenth of a run per game.
Additionally, Rob Dibble doesn't seem to care that this very marginal increase in runs scored might have something to do with the three hitters behind Rollins in 2009. In 2009 Shane Victorino had his best numbers at the plate in his career, Chase Utley's OBP went up by almost 20 points from '08, and Ryan Howard went from .251/.339/.543 in '08 to .279/.360/.571 in '09. No, the reason that Rollins scored (hardly any) more runs despite his OBP dropping over 50 points is because he does what it takes to win. He is also apparently psychic and know when the guys behind him will get a hit and in those instances is extra sure to get on base.
So really, the ways in which Rob Dibble doesn't know what he's talking about are multi-layered. First of all any half knowledgeable person recognizes that runs scored is an awful way to judge a player. Apart from maybe not getting thrown out on base running mistakes there really isn't anything a player can do to control how many runs he scores. The fact that Jimmy Rollins scored 100 runs with an OBP the same as Cesar Izturis' (he scored 34 runs in '09) proves to me even more that runs don't mean anything.
But not only does Rob Dibble not grasp this simple concept, he also doesn't grasp math. His main point was 100 runs vs 76 runs. He didn't know or perhaps didn't care that Rollins had 100 less plate appearances in 18 less games in '08. He didn't take into account that when you play less games you have less opportunities to build a stat like runs. So even if we lived in some crazy fantasyland where players could be accurately judged on the amount of runs they score, the difference in Rollins' '08 and '09 is negligible at best.
Someone pays Rob Dibble to talk about baseball. Amazing.
I was already feeling a little road rage-y this morning thanks to the ridiculous traffic and sitting there listen to Rob Dibble drone on about this nonsense almost sent me over the edge. My condolences go out to Nationals fans who have to listen to this man on television every day.
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by James F on Feb 18, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Rob Dibble is fucking idiot
And Rob Neyer has favorite line about him.
Really, I just wanted an excuse to write about Rob Dibble. For years, I was less than a fan of his work at various networks. So you can imagine my shock, when I realized that I sort of like him in his current role with the Nationals. Yes, he’s still a blowhard who believes that if you didn’t play the game, you don’t know anything about it. But he’s got a good voice, he’s quite a bit smarter than you probably think, and he’s not been pulling his punches while the Nationals have become the biggest joke in the game.
About XM, there are so many more commercials now on Home Plate. So annoying.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I kind of agree with Neyer's take
Dibble is much less annoying as the Nats color guy than in just about any other role I’ve ever heard or seen him in. And that includes pitcher. As Neyer says, he’s still a jackass mostly, but he’s unpredictable and sometimes funny, and has a more dynamic in the booth than a lot of the other doofuses the Nats have had. (On a side note, my Mets fan friends say that Ron Darling is really good now, but he was incredibly bad as the Nats guy their first year.)
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Feb 18, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Also he's such a homer during Nats games
You can hear him cheering guys around the bases like a dumbass. It’s embarrassing.
by O'sFan21 on Feb 19, 2010 12:41 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Amen
If the orioles aren’t on sometimes I’ll watch the Nats, don’t get me wrong.. i’m not pulling for them, but I can’t watch them because he’s such a jackass.
What up?
by snakethejake on Feb 19, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
I liked Rob Dibble when he was on the Dan Patrick radio show
mainly because there was some sort of promotion with Baby Ruth where a Rob Dibble fuck-up would be rebroadcast and laughed at by everyone. I think this was a daily feature – I remember hearing it a lot. Dibs was kind of a “lovable retard” who would always talk about how much he hated his ex-wife. Once he left and people started taking him seriously (or he started acting like people did, anyway) he became a lot less likable.
It's infuriating,
The sheer amount of broadcasters in both sports and “news” (balloon boys, zebras on the lam, politics, finance, anything on a 24 hr network) who are village fucking idiots, and yet get paid large sums of money to yammer on about their alleged wisdom, knowledge and valued opinions on the topic. Largely to blame, I guess, is the 24 hr news cycle which exists in sports and news, along with the insidery social club that permeates both broadcasting cultures.
DC is a bubble of morons who aren’t in touch with reality, and so is Bristol, CT.
"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis
They should really just hire us to be in charge of sports and news
The world would be a better place.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
The infuriating part is....
good journalism schools are NOT teaching them to do this. I did Journalism at Maryland, and you learned how to do real reporting and how to present it on TV.
It’s local news directors and consultants that say “Oh, you need to end the C block with a puff piece of no more than 45 seconds” and “We only have 1:15 for sports, and don’t worry about scores, people get those from the internet. Use the squirrels water-skiing again.”
They know better, they just don’t do it because they aren’t allowed or were promoted beyond their true talent level due to other factors. It may be 20+ years old, but “Broadcast News” wasn’t too far from the truth.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Yeah his on base percentage was down some but he scored 100 runs in 2009. In 2008 he only scored 76 runs. So even though he didn’t get on base as much he proved that he can get on base when it counts.
How exactly do you “get on base when it counts”? How the hell is Jimmy supposed to know when Utley, Ibanez, or Howard have a hit coming? I can see an RBI guy finding ways to drive runners home, but is Dibble really saying that “Run” guys know when they are going to get driven home?
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 19, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions
maybe thats why dibble has a job
fuck intangibles.
by twistedlogic on Feb 19, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Intangibles are great
as long as you have plenty of tangibles to back them up with. In this case, that would be baseball intelligence, and unfortunately, Dibble comes up lacking. What a joke.
Stacey. And everybody else, actually: THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I FEEL LISTENING TO FERD MANFRAUD HUNDREDS OF TIMES A YEAR.
Somebody pays him — his initials are PA, in fact — to substitute delayed marveling at the obvious for actual play-by-play announcing, and then alternate this simple incompetence with stints as Colorless Color Man, offering listeners insipid, homer-centric pablum in a kind of self-imposed ignorance of both the hot-button issues of this team and the sport generally as well as the statistics available for professional analysis of the game.
We can turn him off, of course, and search the dial for the other team’s coverage— not an ideal solution, needless to say. In any case, Joe Angel has to sit there and take it. Night after night after night. You can just hear him groaning slightly sometimes as he…waits…for….Ferd…to…get…a…joke.
But the joke is Ferd, of course. This “announcing” is so unbelievably inept that at one point I seriously considered taping a game, transcribing FM’s commentary and sending the transcript to the Sun, the Warehouse— anywhere that might make a difference. But then I realized No One Cares. Literally. That PA drove out the best announcer in baseball (and broke up the best announcing team in baseball) is just The Way It Is, apparently, and we’re all supposed to pretend Hey, one announcer more or one less— what difference could it make?
Sure, Rob Dibble is a little dim. But his dimness doesn’t get trotted out to represent the Orioles to the world 162 times a year. So how Rob Dibble has a job is not exactly the most puzzling and/or outrageous Birdland media question of the new season, is it?
Wait— have I mentioned this before?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
by Titov on Feb 20, 2010 1:56 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i gotta toss thorne out there
as long as we’re barking up this tree of unbearable announcers that we can’t avoid.
"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel
by swilhelmross on Feb 22, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Manfra
I’m not a huge fan of Manfra, but I have radio subscription to MLB.Com and I believe he is better than half of the guys out there. It’s hard to listen to most of them. MFY’s team is like fingernails on a blackboard. At least Manfra has the voice for the job.
by uneasy rider on Feb 25, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions



















