Tuesday Bird Droppings
Jon Miller selected as Frick Award winner - baltimoresun.com
Jon Miller has been selected as this year's Ford C. Frick Award and will be honored in Cooperstown during the Hall of Fame inductions. They couldn't have picked a better guy and I'm tempted to go up to Cooperstown to hear his speech in person. -Stacey
Oriole Post on Jon Miller
Oriole Post found a great video of Jon Miller and Joe Angel from 1989. In addition to the Jon and Joe awesomeness you get to see Cal Sr. playing some catch and Frank Robinson flirting with the ladies. Awesome. -Stacey
Ranking MLB team nicknames - Hardball Times
Chris Jaffe of The Hardball Times ranks Blue Jays at #9 and Orioles at #10. As to why he likes Blue Jays better than Orioles: "I don't have a reason why - I just do." Well, glad we cleared that up. -duck
Cubs, Millar may be near Minors deal | MLB.com: News
Ol' Kevbo isn't ready to hang 'em up yet and could sign a minor league deal with the Cubs. -Stacey
Orioles ready to compete in 2010 | MLB.com: News
Peter Angelos throws a bucket of cold water on our optimism by stating that the Orioles cannot remain competitive with the Red Sox and Yankees thanks to economic disparity. Not really what you want to hear from your owner. -Stacey
Bill Watterson, creator of beloved 'Calvin and Hobbes' comic strip looks back with no regrets | Living - cleveland.com - - cleveland.com
Watterson created "Calvin & Hobbes" and walked away 15 years ago. Not baseball, just cool. -duck
Finally (this is zknower talkin' here), we're gonna try a new Bird Droppings feature today, This Date in Camden Chat History.
Everyone can benefit from a little perspective, as I discovered yesterday when I uncovered this hysterical two-year-old thread in which we debated the wisdom of signing vs. trading Érik Bédard. It's a total hoot to see who was right (Baltimo, OEutaw), who was wrong (SC, me, JP, among others), and what the vibe of CC was a scant 24 moons in the past.
So as we go forward, we'll try to keep one eye on the past by linking to the best Stories/Fanposts from the current date in past years. It'll be kind of like looking into CC's own personal journal/diary: fun (for sure), enlightening (perhaps), and maybe it'll keep us all honest. Best of all, it will remind us of how terrific the present looks compared to the dark days of, say, 2005.
We'll do our best to mix these in every day, unless there's absolutely nothing interesting to link to. Or we're too busy. Or nobody likes it. So, drumroll please.........
On February 2 in CC history: Ainsworth lands with Dodgers (2006), Jonnypops stars as Roch (2007), O's sign Esteban Yan and Chris Heintz (2008), SC likes Rich Hill as an Oriole (2009)
I don't know who you are. I don't know what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I don't have money. But what I do have are a very particular set of skills; skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my Open Thread go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you.
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Happy Ground Hog Day!
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Happy Ground Hog Day!
uh, wait…echo?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
Went to see
that little rodent one year in college. Stood out in -10 degree weather with thousands of freezing college kids and the entire town of Punxsatawney, PA. One of the biggest wastes of time of my life, I must say.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 9:57 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Please tell me you were at least drunk or hungover.
Otherwise, I just can’t imagine why you’d go.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Yeah
we were partying and it became a college roadtrip thing. I was going to school in PA at the time also. Although about 100 miles from Punx.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 10:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
In that case, completely understandable.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Kudos, zk
I’d never seen the JP as Roch post. It’s gold. BTW, if anyone here is on facebook and hasn’t friended Roch, do it now. His status updates will make your skin crawl.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
ha!
amber, puns and schmuck fat jokes?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
grazie
“JP as Roch” pretty much cemented my feelings about Roch, because at that point his blog was still fairly new, and I was wondering if I was the only one who found it awful and sophomoric. I was relieved to discover I wasn’t.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
The On This Date
Stuff is great. Adds a whole new dimension to the blog. Well done Z.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 8:50 AM EST via mobile reply actions
thanks.
I have no idea why it didn’t occur to us before.
Of course, it’s available to anyone who feels like messing with the search field.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Oh and also...
…I’m a bit confused by that movie, Taken, you quoted in that it was the biggest piece of shit schlockfest that I actually watched the whole way through (on cable) in quite some time. Anybody else have a similar experience?
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 9:11 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I wasn't aware
that all quotes had to be from critically acclaimed movies :P
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Don't personalize.
I’m just talking about the movie, not CC editorial choices. The quote is great.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 9:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
NOW you tell me
So that “Caddyshack 2” quote I had lined up for tomorrow has to go?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
ha ha
I’ve quoted from some of the dumbest movies ever. Often it’s whatever I flipped past on the TV that night. My finest work was when I quoted Big Business however, which is the most awesome movie in history.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I'd like to suggest
the Heat quote. I’d bee thinking of that one for a while.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
I didn't think the movie was *that* bad
It just got overhyped way beyond its own good, for what was essentially a typical action movie. I saw it with minimal expectations and thought it was decent.
I dunno
To me it seemed like something out of the 80s where really obvious and over the top plot and theme choices were still acceptable. Like the father saving the girl’s virginity, her being sold to an Arab (!), the Britney Spearsish character. You just don’t really see many action movies that stupid anymore.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 10:03 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
ahah I liked it actually
I mean, don’t get me wrong, it’s not a fine piece of art or anything. But Liam Neeson does a good job kicking the shit out of a bunch of guys, there are some good explosions, etc.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
it got the job done
watched it on the way to Germany, wasn’t awful. That line was worth it
btw...
liam neeson is old. he’s supposed to be hannibal in the upcoming a team movie and i was all like, “no way! he’s too young!”
…in fact, liam neeson is several years older than george peppard was in the first season of the a team tv series. it blew my mind.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
There is gonna be an A Team movie?
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
it sounds awesome
I mean if they did it right.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Who's gonna play Baracus?
That’s key.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I JUST TOLD YOU!!!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
dude we both posted at 3:52
CALM DOWN.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
RAMPAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
But, but, but...RAMPAGE!!!!

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Rampage will be so awesome as B.A.
It won’t be the Oscars anymore, it will be the Quintons.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
You're kidding, right?
The MMA universe almost exploded when Quinton “Rampage” Jackson walked out on a fight with Rashad Evans to go film it, since he’s playing B.A.
Seriously, you didn’t know this?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
ahahah well that answers my question to kba
I didn’t know. I guess I’m out of the loop. I don’t know who Quinton “Rampage” Jackson is anyhow. Or Rashad Evans.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
You would have enjoyed their season of "The Ultimate Fighter"
it was like watching two middle schoolers bark at each other, since they weren’t allowed to actually hit each other, since they had to save that for the fight. It was hilarious.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
yeah that sounds like a hoot
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Seriously, it was funny
I can’t do it justice.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I actually really enjoyed it
and this is from a guy who usually doesn’t enjoy those types of movies, so I didn’t really have high expectations for it.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
By way of comparison
It would have been the year DCO’sfan was born and BSF wasn’t even a twinkle in his parents’ eyes yet.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
The day I felt old
is when i got pissed that my neighbor’s kids ran across my lawn.
by Philly O's on Feb 2, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow I'm dumb.
I didn’t realize that the link was up there.
Just for the record, Calvin and Hobbes is the best comic. Ever. The Far Side was the pretty damn good too.
Happens to the best of us

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Feb 2, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sweet
Loved the Far Side too. Why are all the good comic strips cancelled, yet Cathy has been around since 1885?
Because great artists know when they've run out of material.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
and/or when they had it in the first place.
Doonesbury is still as great as ever, though.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I really like pearls before swine
Particularly da crocks an de zeebas.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 2, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
Doonesbury is quality
The storylines with Ray, Leo, Elias & of course B.D. give new meaning to the overused phrase “oppose the war – support the troops”.
But I think my favourite is Non Sequitur. I’ve tried to base my life on Danae’s teachings.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
Amen Gregory.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 2, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
ahahah Cathy
the WORST comic ever. If I ever meet that lady I’m gonna thank her for voluntarily writing a comic for 500 years that reinforces every single negative female stereotype.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
jeez stacey, you sound so ANGRY.
do you have PMS today?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
No but I'm having a bad hair day and it's ruining my life!
I’ll never find a man to take care of me now!
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
well, guess you should
eat another pint of ice cream then, while you talk to your cat.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
she likes it
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
This will NEVER happen....
Sounds reasonable, but you know baseball purists would have a total fit.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/hotstove09/news/story?id=4869912
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 2, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions
Maybe....
My apologies… I’ve been on a CC hiatus for a couple weeks.
Just read this on ESPN this morning.
by Wieters Wieners on Feb 2, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Jon Miller Rules!
1. "…Angelos didn’t want Miller because he wasn’t always an Orioles cheerleader in his broadcasts. Many fans still point to that separation as one of most significant lowlights of Angelos’ ownership of the team."
Peter Angelos is a douchebag – so he fired the best announcer in baseball and hired…another douchebag. This isn’t rocket science.
2. That Youtube video is great—and heartbreaking. That should be our announcing team NOW, dammit.
(Oh, and Douchebag 2: Notice how Miller calls that double play? Yes, he actually TELLS THE RADIO AUDIENCE WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE THE CROWD NOISE DOES.)
3. "Angelos said, ‘Andy is doing such a good job I don’t think he needs any help from me. What? What do you mean WHAT THE &%$# HELP COULD I POSSIBLY GIVE BESIDES LEAPING OFF THE WAREHOUSE AND GOING SPLAT ON THE PAVEMENT? Hey, where’s the love, the gratitude?!? I’ve never liked doing this, you know.’"
4. Major NOT a douchebag: Bill Watterson: Maybe the best strip – ever. And not one Calvin coffee mug sold— ever. Class.
5. Groundhog Day is on TV here tonight! Russians love it too (it’s the gf’s favorite movie, in fact), so it often runs on this day in Moscow.
Calvin & Hobbes plus Groundhog Day = good antidotes for Peter Angelos
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Interestingly enough
I just finished reading his autobiography/memoir, Confessions of a Baseball Purist Excellent read, has a whole chapter about covering cal through 2131.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 2, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
TEAM NICK NAMES
As far as Oriole nicknames. The whole O’s thing has to got. LET’s GO O’s, i think is so dumb. We need to be a little more creative or bring back the O.R.I.O.L.E.S. chants. Now when the bird does the cant it is all well and good, but it would be nice if a few thousand more people did it or we need another fan crowd leader (Wild Bill Hagy or Pat the bugler Walker).
Nick names
being a 21 year old orioles fan i wish we had thoughs figures around the ball park.
by Oriolebird88 on Feb 2, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
This just in-- the latest Only in Russia headline: "Russians 'bribe' groundhog to forecast end of winter"
NIZHNY NOVGOROD, February 2 (RIA Novosti)-Residents of the Russian city of Nizhny Novgorod were trying to bribe Olesya the Groundhog with vegetables and nuts to induce her to make better weather predictions during a ceremony marking Groundhog Day at the city’s zoo on Tuesday.
The Limpopo zoo decided to support the American tradition and see if spring would come early in Russia with the help of its own weather forecaster, Olesya the Groundhog.
The American tradition states that if on February 2, Phil the Groundhog leaves his burrow where he has been hibernating and sees his shadow, spring is still a long way away, namely six weeks.
“According to her forecasts, we should expect six more weeks of winter, because she did not want to leave her burrow,” a zoo spokeswoman commented on Olesya’s behavior.
She said last year Limpopo workers failed to get a weather forecast from the zoo’s groundhogs as they were still hibernating on Groundhog’s Day.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
And the runner-up from last Friday:" 'Avatar' no substitute for Chekhov: Medvedev"
AFP
January 29, 2010
MOSCOW. President Dmitry Medvedev, a self-confessed bookworm, said Friday Hollywood sensation “Avatar” would never be a substitute for theatre as Russia celebrated the 150th birthday of writer Anton Chekhov.
“New technologies have appeared but ‘Avatar’ will never supplant theatre even though it is very beautiful, very complicated and very expensive,” Medvedev said on a visit to Taganrog, a port in southern Russia where Chekhov was born on January 29, 1860.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
well, Medvedev got one thing right.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Unfortunately, that's one in a row
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Careful
That’s your visa you’re messing with.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 2, 2010 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-h-h-h-h-h-h-h…….
Pls refrain from using the v-word in my presence — breaking out in hives is a good reaction.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
OFF-TOPIC REDSKINS POST
I’m giving you all first dibs before I go over to Hogs Haven.
I have four season tickets to the Skins, nothing special, just upper level, although we’ll get moved up this year.
I’m looking to save a little money next season and split up my tickets: i.e., I will sell two of the seats at face value to someone. The catch is, I"m doing this to save money, and I’d need to be paid well in advance of the tickets being printed (invoice is due in a month), so you have to be a trusting soul. On the other hand, it’s not like I can hide given my profile here at CC.
You would get the same two seats (Section 449) to all home games (8 regular season plus 2 preseason) at face-value ($64/ticket, $1280 total for 20 tickets). They’d be yours to keep, sell on StubHub, what have you. I will not split up the tickets or the package.
If you’re interested, please email me offline at zknower at earthlink dot net (or use the bottom left link under BIG WIGS). (“BIG WIGS”? When did that happen?). Put something like “Skins” in the subject line so it recognize it in my spam filter.
Thanks, and please don’t turn this into a discussion about the ’Skins. :)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Can we turn it...
into a discussion of the draconian ticketing policies of the Washington NFL team?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
no.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
You're just no fun anymore.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
don't MAKE me turn this blog around.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
That's Stacey's job, anyway
Remember, you’re the brains to my brawn. Although if I’m our template for brawn, our lunch money is seriously at risk.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
It's the internet, dude
You’re huge on the internet :)
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Waiting for "That's what she...." joke in 3,...2,....1...
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Maybe we should start replacing the obvious jokes with numbers. Saves time (and space).
I bet that’s what Athletics Nation does. ‘Course, when you put down “47” or something, you have to be careful: it’s all in how you write it…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Baseball Prospectus
BP came out with their PECOTA projections for 2010 final standings. No surprise that they have the Orioles in 4th, but I am a bit surprised they have the O’s winning 80 games. I’d probably take that.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/fantasy/dc/
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 2, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions
Opinion
Wasabi peas make an excellent snack.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
by Stacey on Feb 2, 2010 12:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
well it's no bacon...
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
..
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/BACON-WRAPPED-TUNA-WITH-WASABI-CREAM-SAUCE-1238962
http://momsnetwork.com/boards/dips-salsas/22239-bacon-wasabi-ranch-dip-recipe.html
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
The epicurous one was the first one i saw
But i have soccer season starting back up soon, so i’m trying to lay off the cream.
I found a bunch of recipes for wasabi mashed potatoes that sound interesting, and obviously adding bacon would only make it better.
I’ll have to try to find some real wasabi though. I love horseradish, but its just not the same.
wasabi bacon mashed potatoes
sounds like heaven on a plate.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Good read at Bluebird Banter
About a Yankee fan so angry about the Yankees’ off-season moves that he’s canceling his season ticket plan.
http://www.bluebirdbanter.com/2010/1/30/1285048/saturday-night-laugh-at-the
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
hysterical and pathetic at the same time.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
GOLD!!
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 2, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
I would never want to treat a World Series as casually as Yankee fans. If thats what twenty seven world series titles do to you then no thank you.
Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey
Just curious
Does anyone who first came up with the term MFY and PHn?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 2, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions
They just sort of emerged
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
i thought...
phn originated w/ 2632?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
Before they were the Yankees
They were the Highlanders (I think) and before that, they were the Orioles!!!!!! Only recently have they become the Damn Yankees, then the MFY.
SARFATE????????
A week or so ago the Orioles took Dennis Sarfate off their 40 man roster. My understanding was that other teams could claim him at that point, at which point the Orioles could try to arrange some sort of deal with the claiming team. If no one claims him after ten days, he can either accept the assignment to Norfolk or be a free agent. That ten days is about up. What is the status of Sarfate?
last I heard
The O’s were trying to trade Sarfate before the window closed because he’d indicated he wouldn’t accept a minor league assignment. I don’t know how they would expect to get anything for him since all teams know he’d be a FA in a few days.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Organizing a trade gives you exclusive rights
While Sarfarte’s value is certainly reduced knowing that he will soon be a free agent, there is still value in not having to negotiate with him in an open market (presuming that there are multiple teams interested). The return will likely be negligible, but its not impossible for the Orioles to recieve something in exchange.
something like, a dennis sarfate-type player.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Well it would have to be something worth a little less than sarfate
like a broken pitching machine or something
Is anyone else
Really bothered by the fact that so-called “experts” are saying Sandra Bullock should win the Oscar for The Blind Side? Hey, experts, this is the same woman who has a Golden Raspberry nomination for All About Steve. So, why don’t you throw a blonde wig on me and teach me how to speak in a Southern accent?
This whole thing is a load of crap. If the Academy gives it to her (even though I don’t think they will—it’s still a possibility), I will lose every ounce of respect I have for them. Honestly, putting Sandra Bullock in the same sentence as Meryl Streep is mind-boggling. Bullock will never, ever be the actress that Streep is.
I wasnt a huge fan of Julie and Julia as a movie
but Meryl Streep was brilliant and absolutely nailed Julia Child.
Looking at the nominations, i would put Bullock at best 3rd behind Carey Mulligan and Streep, and thats only because i havent seen Precious or The Last Station
Neither was I
But I suppose I have a bias towards Meryl Streep because she’s my favorite actress…still, I saw The Blind Side and I wasn’t impressed. Gabourey Sidibie was brilliant in Precious, but I haven’t seen An Education or The Last Station, but I’m sure they’re both great. I thought Streep gave a fantastic performance, and she’s long overdue. 16 nominations but 28 years since her last win? WHAT?!
this.
what she did is astounding. playing a 16 year old in a way that you’re actually convinced the actress is 16 is ridiculously difficult. i was shocked to find out she’s older.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Are you talking about An Education? I’ve been meaning to see that.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
it's seriously brilliant.
probably the best movie i saw last year, if not the hurt locker.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
* haven't seen precious yet. it's in the dvd player as i speak.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
SPOILER ALERT ON PRECIOUS
No more movies sets in 80s with an AIDS twist. It’s played.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I need to see the Hurt Locker before the Oscars
I feel like i need to be in the right mood to really appreciate it, and that hasn’t really struck me yet.
It's wall-to-wall suspense
It’s like Before The Devil Knows You’re Dead, but oddly uplifting instead of paralyzingly depressing.
i can't believe she was nominated, or that the movie was
she is one of my least favorite “actresses” of all time.
how district 9 and blind side were nom’d but somehow 500 days of summer wasn’t is beyond me. just goes to show you that having 10 films nominated doesn’t keep bad ones from getting in or good ones from being slighted.
it’s all about studio promotion
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I'm with you on the Blind Side and 500 Days of Summer
but i don’t think District 9 was unworthy of a nomination
I thought District 9 was pretty damn good
I mean, it didn’t make me reevaluate my life, but it was entertaining as hell, which is something I look for in my entertainment.
it was VERY entertaining...
…with some very BAD scriptwriting, especially in the last 3rd.
the whole movie was doing really well nad then it kinda went off the rails.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Films are more than scripts and stories
I’m kind of getting annoyed with all this talk on the internet about how Avatar doesn’t deserve to be nominated or win Best Picture. I’m not saying that you’re one of these people, and I certainly think that there are valid and credible arguments towards that end, but damning an entire film because certain elements are weaker than others seems to miss the point. Avatar and District 9 and other films like them put a spin on the familiar hero myth and pump up the spectacle through other means, which in the case of Avatar/D9 is amazingly imaginative and competent special effects and worldbuilding.
I guess I may have less of a problem with pulpy tropes than others, since I’m an unashamed sci-fi fan and have enjoyed everything from Paycheck to Moon, but the writing does not have to carry the weight of a film if the aim is spectacle. There are awards for writing, there are awards for directing, and there are awards for the finished whole, and when the completed film works both because of its strengths and in spite of its flaws (like D9 and Avatar did), then you have something special that deserves to be recognized, be it with a nomination or a statuette or whatever.
Although I guess using my argument above, both Avatar and D9 might be more deserving of a Best Director honor.
I am one of those people.
Avatar doesn’t deserve to be nominated or win Best Picture.
I’d be fine if it got a directing nomination, but it shouldn’t even win that. The plot is almost non-existent and where it does exist, it is muddled and/or strains belief. “You’re a total stranger, but heck, let’s bring you into our village and tell you all of our deepest secrets.” The script is LAUGHABLY bad. (Unobtanium? Ooooo, how clever.) The BAD GUYS are practially wearing bad guy hats. There isn’t an ounce of subtletly or grey area anywhere.
Best special effects? Absolutely. Sound editing? Maybe. Song? Sure, why not?
Best picture? Not even close. Not even close.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Not non-existant
Not muddled. Just simple. Really simple. Unobtanium was laughably bad, but Cameron always has a bunch of clunkers in his scripts (Chris Elliot’s character in The Abyss is a great example of terribly written character with awful lines). Not that I’m going to convince you otherwise or am even trying to, but I’m just saying that the writing isn’t everything, and Avatar works with a very simple and very familiar plot.
Which is exactly why I’m worried about Avatar 2, because the bar has been raised and we’ve already been blown away by Pandora, and a simple (shitty) story won’t work the second time around. Move on to something else, James.
i won't convince you otherwise either, but
but Cameron always has a bunch of clunkers in his scripts
this is not an inspiring defense: “Oh, he always sucks at that, so it’s okay.”
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Oh sure
But his movies still succeed in spite of this. That’s my point. Aliens, T2, Titanic, Avatar. All huge movies, hugely successful, embedded in social consciousness, and from three different decades. All contain myriad examples of Cameron at his strongest and his weakest, and all find ways to work. He’s not a writer, he’s a filmmaker, and to judge him based on the quality of the writing is silly because no one sees a James Cameron movie for the writing, and his movies are not successful for the writing. They’re James Cameron-brand spectacles.
box office success is not indication of the quality of a movie
one only has to look at the recent star wars debacles to confirm this.
i agree that they are JC-brand spectacles. that does not make them worthy of best picture. it makes them worthy of other awards, as i have outlined above.
if he’s not a writer, he always has an option of actually hiring someone who can write. but he chooses not to, which is oversight at best and hubris at worst.
look, i saw avatar. i enjoyed avatar. but it has gigantic problems, and it wasn’t even the 5th best movie i saw last year. By “best” i mean that a movie has to fire on ALL cylinders. it needs to be nearly perfect. no stadout crap performances, no scripts that go clunk, no ridiculous plot contrivances. a “best” picture for me is one where I walk out giving it a 9 or a 10. Avatar was pretty and fascinating and unique, but it wasn’t even close to a 9 or a 10 because of the flaws I’ve mentioned.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I was using a broader definition of success
I could go on all day about Cameron and how the reason he doesn’t hire out the writing is because he wants total control and that’s how he works best and his movies are stronger for it even if it is his weakness and blah blah blah. I’m obviously a Cameron apologist – he’s my Steve Jobs, if you will – but I see your points. Problems that are gigantic to you are minor to me. I’m just a little annoyed when the focus is always on the writing, because a film is much more than that.
So does George Lucas
and you don’t see any Best Picture Oscars on his mantle.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Lucas is Lucas
The prequels are forgotten except to be ridiculed. He’s been on autopilot since the late 70s – he had to force himself to sit in front of a computer for eight hours a day to write the prequels. His mind would wander and he’d stare out his window, looking at his spacious ranch – then he would have to slap himself and get back down to business. Cameron, on the other hand, has to remind himself to live a life outside of his work and has left a trail of broken marriages and disgruntled employees behind him. Lucas is clinging to his only success – the original trilogy, which I love – and milking it for all it’s worth. Cameron is constantly reinventing himself and pushing the limits of the medium. You can’t compare the two.
The most telling part of the originals, to me, is this:
Lucas didn’t direct Empire, and did very little of the screenwriting. And there’s no wonder it’s considered the best of the 6 movies.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Empire is the masterpiece, without question
But Kerschner, the director, has directed a lot of terrible shit: RoboCop 2 and The Eyes of Laura Mars come to mind. Somehow, the stars aligned and a near-perfect movie was made.
there's some question
i like IV better than V. I’m not the only one, either.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Completely agree
And nobody agrees with me.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
i sorta lost this convo here
but if you’re agreeing that avatar shouldnt get best picture, then i agree with you.
I’ve been hating on Avatar for awhile now, all for the reasons that Z mentions. I saw it opening night, 3D IMAX and walked out massively disappointed. Everybody else though can’t stop singing the praises of Avatar.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Something that made me cringe:
http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/02/02/the-oscarologist-avatar-the-blind-side-nominees/
Read the comments. It’s a travesty!
Wait — just how many ounces of respect are we talking about here? How long is the list of Unbelievably Stupid Academy Awards? Hey, everybody has favorites.
One of mine is certainly the 1977 Best Actor award going to Richard Dreyfuss for a pleasant sort of walk-through performance in a mildly diverting Neil Simon dramedy called “The Goodbye Girl” — defeating both Richard Burton (“Equus”, for which he was the Golden Globe BA winner) and Marcello Mastroianni (“A Special Day”, which won the Cesar for Best Foreign Film). R-i-i-i-i-ight.
Who knows, it might’ve been a “make-up call” (Dreyfuss deserved an Oscar for “Duddy Kravitz”) or the fact that he was an American or both. The point is: Are they kidding? SNL even did a joke about the award when Dreyfuss guest-hosted.
Sandra Bullock is a moderately gifted actress and pleasant-seeming person whose Oscar wouldn’t embarrass the, er, academicians as much as many others have. I take your point: Streep is a legend, after all— but the voters will not let her win every time out (though she may come as close to deserving such treatment as anybody; I’d give her a special Award for accent-mastery alone, which is something American actors are notoriously feeble at).
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Oh, and speaking of Oscars That Might Have Been, what if Brandon hadn't gotten the Godfather role?
Of the half-dozen others who were discussed for the part (incl. Burt Lancaster, Laurence Olivier and Frank Sinatra), I have always felt that the viewers greatest loss was that it didn’t go to…wait for it…DANNY THOMAS!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0858683/
Which means Philip Tattaglia would’ve been played by Hans Conried, of course…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
I see your point.
But I still think it would be an embarrassment for the Academy to give Sandra Bullock the Oscar. A big one. If they give it to her, it will cement the fact that the Oscars are no longer about good movies or good actors/actresses—no, it’s popularity contest.
And the thing about Meryl Streep is that they HAVEN’T let her win every time out! Katherine Hepburn of all people has four Oscars. And Streep has two? There’s something wrong here. She deserves to win at least one more Oscar. Look, they’ve snubbed her for better performances (A Cry in the Dark, Bridges of Madison County etc. etc.) than J&J, but she was pretty damn amazing as Julia Child. And the thing about Sandra Bullock is of all these “experts” that are saying she will win the Oscar, not ONE I’ve read said she gave the greatest performance of the year. Not one. That’s telling, isn’t it? So she’ll win the Oscar, but it doesn’t mean she deserved it.
/rant
You’re right that Streep has fewer Oscar wins than she deserves— but her 16 nominations doubtless make some academy voters of neuron-losing age think she actually has more (as I did). And her overall total of acting awards and nominations — 83 and 90 respectively — leads me to feel that if MPA has been somewhat remiss towards her, she hasn’t exactly been, er, neglected by the world’s assembled cinema critics and industries.
Anyway, I’ll campaign against Bullock in the Moscow press if you agree to be a Warehouse mob-scene extra in “The Last Night of Peter Angelos.” Pitchforks will be provided.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
I have a bottle of wine and 500 pages of law review articles to read
guess which is going to get finished first
Once upon a time, I wrote a ten-pager completely drunk
it turned out to be a pretty decent paper. This was after I had, as usual, waited until the day before to start writing it, and the drunkenness made me stop worrying and love the bomb.
i never saw a reason to start early
until i was up all night working on it
by twistedlogic on Feb 2, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Anybody watch Lost? (spoiler alert if you didn't but plan to)
In the first minute of the show — they flushed 5 seasons of TV down the toilet — and then brought it back, sort of.
I thought it would have been ballsy to just go with the concept that the “reset” worked — it would have been cool but it would also have been a ripoff in that it would have completely let them off the hook for explaining so much. Having the “alternate reality” where they’re still on the island keeps them accountable.
I stopped watching
just before someone used a giant steering wheel to drive the island. I just couldn’t take it anymore.
I think if they hadn’t veered off from “weird and mysterious” to “completely incoherent” at that point (or well before), they’re at that point now.
Still, I’ve watched too long not to see it through at this point. It’s enjoyable and infuriating at the same time.
That's me & Heroes at this point...
it sucks so bad, I can’t believe I’m wasting DVR space on it. But I know this is it (even if it officially hasn’t been put of of its misery yet), I gotta see it through to the end.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal




















