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O's Reimold feels good after testing Achilles - baltimoresun.com 
Penicillin said he's good to go at full speed after running on grass for the first time since surgery. -duck

Angel to return as O's voice this season - baltimoresun.com
Joe Angel is officially back as the radio voice of the O's, but Fred Manfra hasn't been officially signed. He's expected to, but there's a ray of hope he won't, Titov. -duck

Give that blogger a contract: Vying to be Orioles spring PA voice - Big League Stew
The O's held a tryout for PA Spring Training announcer. Here's one blogger's experience with trying out. -duck

Gonzalez tabbed as Orioles' closer; Bergesen checks out OK - Sporting News staff reports - MLB - Sporting News
No surprise, but Mike Gonzalez has been informed by Dave Trembley that he will be the closer for 2010. -duck

O's broadcast lineup takes shape; Brady, Eddie could join team - baltimoresun.com
Eddie Murray in the broadcast booth? Has he done that before? I'd welcome it. -Stacey

Notes from Spring Training - baltimoresun.com
Luke Scott, Matt Angle, Nolan Reimold and Garrett Atkins have arrived in camp. Reimold's achilles is completely healed and he's not on any restrictions and Atkins pretty much said he hopes he doesn't suck. Also Chris Tillman is having back spasms but nobody seems terribly concerned. Of course they don't. It's Spring Training, hope springs eternal. -Stacey

Berken up the wrong tree
Roch speculates that there is one bullpen spot up for grabs for Cla Meredith, Matt Albers, Dennis Sarfate, and the rest of the hopefuls. -Stacey

A Will who definitely has his own way | HeraldTribune.com
Only in Spring Training does Will Ohman get a three page about his life. It's actually a pretty good read. I'm starting to think Ohman is a something of a hoot. -Stacey

Team snapshot: Orioles Magic needs to pull more wins out of hat - Big League Stew
Big League Stew previews the Orioles season. -Stacey

Giants' Rule 5 pick aware of long odds | MLB.com: News
I'm sure Steve Johnson wants to stick in the bigs, but here's hoping he finds his way back to the O's. -Stacey

Tillman's new pitch
Chris Tillman is working on a cut fastball and he has discussed it with....wait for it....Kevin Millwood! -Stacey

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Let me just put this out there

Anybody remember a sunday game in Anaheim a couple of years ago in which Brady Anderson joined Gary and Jim for maybe four or five innings?. Gary kept inviting him back for another inning, and I wasn’t sure why because there were maybe four or five cringe-worthy moments that Brady had. I had to keep flipping the channel until I was sure it was over.

Now, I’m sure Brady has the potential to get better as an announcer and if anything not be so cringe inducing, but for now, I’m against him becoming one, especially with us.

Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: "Mankind". Basically, it's made up of two separate words—"mank" and "ind". What do these words mean? It's a mystery, and that's why so is mankind.
-Jack Handey

by jobe on Feb 22, 2010 8:13 AM EST reply actions  

Yes I remember that

not good times.

cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz

by Steve. on Feb 22, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure Brady has the potential to get better

Maybe he just needs a mentor.

by BrianS on Feb 22, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Millwood is kinda like a mentor or something huh?

Betcha havent heard that one. Id like to see the cutter do some damage.

"On my tombstone just write, 'The sorest loser that ever lived.'"
Earl Weaver

by matman008 on Feb 22, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

I’m not even sure why we need a pitching coach anymore. Sorry Rick, you’re redundant.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 22, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I heard that millwood has mentored the young pitchers into the best shape of their lives. Any truth to that?

Поклон перед вашим капитаном!

by Knubles and Bits on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Dear Nolan,

I hope you are really 100%. That would be cool. Don’t overdo it, and don’t injure yourself in ST

Love,

me

Trying to hit off me is like trying to eat soup with chopsticks.
-Ryohei Tanaka, with AA Bowie

by Timmy L. on Feb 22, 2010 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

Adam Jones

Just thought I’d share.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

This begs for a caption contest.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Feb 22, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

So let's do it.

Stacey, OK to post this as a separate story and have a caption contest?

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Feb 22, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

of course!

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

This is my new desktop background by the way

It makes me happy.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Hopes he doesn't suck

Haha poor Atkins, I hope he does alright this spring, dude needs a confidence boost

by tjk on Feb 22, 2010 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

He needs an OPS boost

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 22, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha poor Atkins, I hope he does alright this spring season, dude needs a confidence boost

Fixed

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

From Britt Ghiroli's Twitter feed:
Clean shaven Luke Scott is here and already messing with lockermate (that he requested) Felix Pie.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Feb 22, 2010 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

Luke and Felix are besties

They got along really well last year if I remember correctly.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

A poor man’s Jamie/Koji

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 22, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Jamie was and is the man

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 22, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I would appreciate him much more

if he didn’t feel the need to occasionally stand on a little hill and throw beach balls in the general vicinity of hitters.

cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz

by Steve. on Feb 22, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Jamie Walker was awesome for one year as a pitcher

Awesome as a human all the time. It’s really more on the O’s for giving a 36 year old a three year contract like a bunch of morons.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw

some decent pitching and some ok humanity. Nothing to write home about on either front.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Anybody else think it's weird

that Meredith has to fight for a bullpen spot?

Also I’m not that big of a fan of Tillman trying to throw a cutter…

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

Why?

to both questions, really. Meredith was really, really great for one year (2007) but isn’t noticeably better than the other options (such as Albers) – and he has an option (I think), so it doesn’t sound to me like he’s a shoo-in at all. The Tillman thing I don’t know why you wouldn’t like that.

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Meredith

is much more of a proven commodity. He put up a 1.3 WHIP with the O’s last year (as opposed to Albers’ 1.7…) and has a career WHIP of 1.3 over 5 seasons (as opposed to Albers’ 1.6 WHIP over 3 short seasons). So that’s why. Also his great year was 2006 not 2007. But even in his worst full season his WHIP was only 1.5 which would be better than Albers’ best season thus far.

As far as the cutter, lots of pitchers who try to learn the cutter end up losing some velocity.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

what does that matter if he's effective?

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 22, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Not even a little bit.

But generally pitchers who depend on velocity tend to get less effective when they lose that velocity.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll bite

The cutter thing I don’t know anything about. That’s certainly interesting, though.

For the record, I’m guessing the bullpen has Meredith, Koji, Gonzo, JJ, Kam the Destroyer, Hendrickson, and Ohman or Castillo in it to start the season. I suspect, though, that Albers won’t make it through waivers, so that’s why I think he’s the prime competitor to Cla’s spot in the bullpen.

I won’t argue that Albers is a better pitcher than Meredith, because he’s not – Cla gets more ground balls and less line drives, and Albers doesn’t walk enough fewer guys or strike out more guys to make up the difference. But Matt Albers had a deceptively good year last year, fat or not, and proved that he can throw more innings than Meredith, which makes him more valuable. And Albers doesn’t have an option left, and I’m guessing won’t make it through waivers. Just throwing away talent, even if it’s just a useful bullpen arm, isn’t the smartest thing in the world.

So there’s, in my mind, a decision that has to be made and shouldn’t have already been made. Not that I endorse using Spring Training sample sizes for making decisions.

Also, my bad, Meredith had two excellent years, 2007 and 2006.

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

How did Albers have a deceptively good year last year? He had a BB/9 of 4.8, a WHIP of 1.7,

And when did he prove that he can throw more innings than meredith? When he STARTED 18 games in in 2007?? He threw exactly 2.1 more innings than him last year and Meredith was only on the O’s for half the season. In 2008 Meredith threw 70 innings to Albers’ 50.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Albers

threw 67 innings for the Orioles last year and 12.2 more in Norfolk, and didn’t break down after the shoulder thing. Albers had 49 innings in ‘08 because he got hurt and didn’t pitch after June 25. He would have blown by Meredith otherwise.

Albers did have a better FIP than Meredith in 2009 over more innings (yes, it’s only 2.1 but more is still more) – I was surprised to see that myself, but he had a .360 BABiP compared to a career .314, so it sort of makes sense that he’d sneak up on you in terms of performance.

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

So

we should count minor league innings? Where he was pitching because he was doing so horribly at the majors?? Again Meredith was only on the O’s for half a season.

And Albers should get greater weighting because he got hurt in 2008?

And his BABiP might has been higher than career, but that 4.8 BB/9 is what it is.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

You're right of course

but, look, gun to my head, I’m saying that Matt Albers can handle a bigger workload than Cla Meredith. Maybe it’s only 15 more innings, maybe it’s less, maybe it’s more, but he can throw more innings. That’s worth something.

And while Albers hasn’t been the bastion of control or anything, Meredith has a FIP in the same region: about 4.00 over the last two seasons, most of which was in spacious Petco Park. Albers put up a 3.92 in the AL East bandboxes, for more innings. He had the better year.

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know.

He had a serious shoulder injury that he rehabbed instead of getting surgery – I think that’s a huge question mark as far as his workload is concerned. If we’re looking in a vacuum and talking about potential I think you’re right that if both pitchers are 100% healthy and pitching well maybe Albers might be able to throw a handful more innings, but I think that’s purely hypotethitical.

I’m sorry – new age statistics be damned I can’t believe that a pitcher with a 1.7 WHIP had a better year than a pitcher with a 1.5 WHIP. Maybe he had an unluckier year, but he sure didn’t have a better year. One guy had an ERA+ of 101 (and for the O’s 120) and the other guy had an ERA+ of 82. It just doesn’t even seem close.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

A lot of it

is that Albers kept the ball in the ballpark more than Meredith despite having a worse FB%…which is probably just dumb luck.

But the crux of my argument isn’t that Albers is better than Meredith – he isn’t. The crux is that Albers is useful in a major league bullpen, and the Orioles should think hard about throwing a useful part away unless they are certain that he can’t handle a big workload (which wouldn’t make him nearly as useful).

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That makes sense

and I don’t know what the deal is with who has options and who doesn’t (Meredith is actually a little younger it seems but cracked the majors sooner), but if you’re asking me to choose between the two of them right now it doesn’t seem that hard of a decision and I don’t really think that Spring Training should make much difference unless once of them is just incredible and the other is terrible.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree

and I’m guessing Meredith and Mickolio round out the pen.

The out of options players are: Andino, Albers, Pie, and Guthrie.

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Does Meredith have options?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Weird

Refresh my memory on how that works again? Is it total professional service time or major league service time?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

To the best of my knowledge

Once you sign a major league contract (either when you’re drafted or when you are first brought onto the 40-man roster which is called having it “purchased”) you are given either 3 or 4 options depending on professional service time. You can only use one option per year, even if you are shuttled back and forth multiple times on and off the 25 man roster, though you have to pass through waivers (or released or traded) to be taken off the 40 man roster.

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It looks like

Meredith has been optioned thrice since his contract was purchased in 2005 (2005, 2006, and 2008), but he must have a fourth option, so it must be based on major league service, not professional service (since he’s been pitching since ’04, but only has just over 3 years ML service)

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

per Wikipedia:

Options
If a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the active major league roster, he is said to be on optional assignment—his organization may freely move him between the major league club and the minor league club. If a player is on the 40-man roster and not the active 25 man roster for any part of more than three seasons (in which he spent 20 or more total days of service in the minors), he is out of options and may not be assigned to the minors without first clearing waivers. However, if a player has less than 5 years of professional experience, he may be optioned to the minors in a fourth season without being subject to waivers. If a major league player is ineligible for free agency and “has options” remaining, his team may option him to a minor league team without consequence. This is usually what is meant when players are “sent down” to the minors. Likewise, when a player on the 40-man roster is added to the active major league roster, he is “called up” to the majors.

Not that Wikipedia is always accurate, but this sounds pretty well-researched.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 22, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

If you’re looking for a good place to find how many options the Orioles have, Camden Depot keeps a list on their sidebar. I’m fairly certain it’s accurate.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm guessing

That it’s probably Cla’s spot to lose. I would have given Cla a better shot over Mickolio but Roch is speculating that Kam will be in the pen thanks to Dave raving about him. We’ll see.

As for the Tillman thing, I don’t know why it hurts to try something new.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

See above

about the cutter – it’s a tricky pitch that requires playing with the angle of your hand on the ball and can often lead to playing with your arm angle resulting in loss of velocity on your other pitches.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Well he's not doing anything right now anyway

thanks to his sore back.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

from a comment in one of the sun articles

horrible production quality (someone videotaped their TV and you can see a lot of living room around it), but this is a dupe of some kind of Jon Miller recap of the 1989 “Why Not?” season. Lots of fun.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 22, 2010 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

So I think it's safe to say

that this video was, um, heavily inspired by the film “Major League.” I dig it.

by PhilR8 on Feb 22, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I know it's bad etiquette to respond to yourself

especially twice, but I can’t get enough of this video. Gregg Olson striking out McGwire to this song:

http://popup.lala.com/popup/577305220445797467

Well, life doesn’t get much better than that.

by PhilR8 on Feb 22, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude

Cal hitting that HR off of Clemens is about as good as it gets.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone see this in Olney's column a few days ago?

Check out some of the career batting averages against Millwood in AL East:

Randy Winn: .611 (11-18)
Kevin Youkilis: .467 (7-15)
Alex Rodriguez: .421 (9-21)
Jason Varitek: .387 (12-31)
Victor Martinez: .375 (6-16)
David Ortiz: .360 (9-25)
Nick Swisher: .345 (10-29)
Robinson Cano: .333 (6-18)
J.D. Drew: .321 (10-31)
Derek Jeter: .320 (8-25)

Not sure if it was discussed previously.

by Jordan Tuwiner on Feb 22, 2010 11:34 AM EST reply actions  

Overall?

I thought overall he had a good record against the AL East (not including the O’s).

by Philly O's on Feb 22, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't judge anyone by wins

Plus, the majority of them probably came against us and when the Rays sucked.

Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.

by birdman on Feb 22, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't worry too much about it

When you have small sample sizes like this, you’ll get big (and small) numbers. I don’t think Millwood is going to be great and he may not even be average; but 15-30 AB’s against a dozen players isn’t too meaningful.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 22, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

These sample sizes are too small

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Varitek

isn’t going to be hitting .387 in batting practice these days…

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

But he calls a great game

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 22, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

he's gritty!

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 22, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

he's white!

Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.

by Andrew_G on Feb 22, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Well Kevin Millwood isn't all that good

However, I don’t put much stock in a few ABs.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Our staff's ERA has already dropped a half run

I feel bad for Scott Feldman, he may as well just retire now.

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Feb 22, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

look at baseball-refefrence.com

It has career stats against AL East. The only team that he’s owned has been the Orioles.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?n1=millwke01&year=Career&t=p

Toronto, Rays, Yankees have spanked him. Red Sox, not so much.

by drj on Feb 22, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

I would say Tampa Bay has spanked him and the Yankees have him him very well, and Toronto hit him pretty well. Does a .793 OPS count as getting spanked?

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

guess it depends on your definition

Millwood has not been strong against the AL East. Odds are that trend continues. Olney may cherry pick a few batters, but Millwoodd’s career numbers do indicate some tough times ahead in the AL East.

by drj on Feb 22, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

remember those hockey gold medal favorites going into the games?

yea, well the us doesnt have any of them in their bracket. sweet deal yo.

by twistedlogic on Feb 22, 2010 12:16 PM EST reply actions  

good lord, we're the number 1 seed!

that’s CRAZY!

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 22, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i know

kinda sucks for ryan kesler, who plays for vancouver. they’re going to hate his ass up there.

by twistedlogic on Feb 22, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

russia's gonna play canada (unless one loses)

so that’ll knock out one giant right there!

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 22, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we all take a moment

to make fun of Shane Victorino?

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

genius.
TZ: Did you actually design it?
SV: Yeah. I had a lot to do with the design.
TZ: You just told them what you wanted on it?
SV: Yeah. Did you see it?
TZ: Yeah, it looks good, but I don’t think I could pull off that look.
SV: Why not?
TZ: I don’t think I’m cool enough for a shirt like that.
SV: Shoot.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 22, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't say anything bad about SV after reading that interview snippet
TZ: So you have a clothing line now?
SV: It’s a shirt. It’s not a clothing line. But I will be doing a series of shirts.

Not that I’d wear anything like that, but if you like wearing Tapout shirts and shit this fits in pretty well.

by PhilR8 on Feb 22, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Shane and all,

but seriously? Baseball players (or maybe just the Phillies) wear — and now design, apparently — the weirdest T-shirts…

And also on that blog, it’s sad, but Jayson Werth’s ridiculous facial hair is actually an improvement on his usual.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Feb 22, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, Damon signed with the Tigers over the weekend?

So. The Tigers are going with $8M Johnny Damon over $5.5M Curtis Granderson. I see.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 22, 2010 12:28 PM EST reply actions  

The Tigers are nuts

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Somebody should lose a job for that

I bet the Detroit blogs and sportswriters are all over that.

by fishoutawata on Feb 22, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Dustin Pedroia
"I don’t even buy into that stuff. We have great pitching, we have great defense, and we have good offensive players,’’ he said. "I don’t even know what run prevention is. I’m a baseball player. I don’t know how to read very good; I don’t know how to write very good. We just go play, man. That’s it. We’ll be fine.’’

LOL.

Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.

by birdman on Feb 22, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Pitching coach Rick Kranitz approached Tillman with the idea, and the right-hander decided to run with it.

I have a feeling Kranitz tries to teach a cutter to a lot of his pitchers.

Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.

by birdman on Feb 22, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Tillman has no other pitch with lateral movement

He needs to find one, yes?

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Feb 22, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Adding another pitch would be great. Not against it.

Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.

by birdman on Feb 22, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

the cutter

At first blush, it seems a good idea to add another pitch. I am concerned, however, by the observation that the pitcher loses velocity with a cutter. I would welcome an explanation. Does the cutter hurt the arm? Or, does the cutter require pitching at an arm angle that produces less are speed, and in order for the cutter to be disguised the pitcher must use that arm angle for all pitches?

by BaltoBen on Feb 22, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't hurt the arm

It’s actually much better for the arm (and particularly the elbow) than the slider. But in order to put the spin that results in movement on the ball it definitely slows the pitch down and it requires a different release (different hand angle) and it FEELS like it requires a slightly different arm action (even though it doesn’t). So lots of times pitchers trying to learn it end up tinkering with both arm and hand angle and then it can throw off their release for other pitches. There’s that risk with all pitches, but the cutter is particularly difficult in that respect because it’s supposed to be as close to fastball speed as possible (the best cutters are 2-3 mph slower than a 2-seam fastball) so the differences in muscle memory of what’s required to make that happen tend to blur the lines a lot more than when throwing a slider, curveball, or changeup.

Don’t get me wrong – it’s a huge generalization to say that trying to learn the cutter will result in lost velocity, but it can happen. I should have just said it makes me nervous.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Your question

about disguising the cutter is a good one. If thrown correctly it would be from the same arm angle and just the hand angle (really the angle of the fingers on the ball at release) would be slightly different. The problem is that it’s hard as hell to throw it correctly.

The two dbags in NY (pettitte and rivera) are about the best int he business. You can’t see anything different in their deliveries.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha, this one's great.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Feb 22, 2010 1:04 PM EST reply actions  

"Why are you taking that picture? I told you I hate being photographed!"

Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)

by DCO'sfan on Feb 22, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

In all of those pictures

all of the guys have their shirts untucked except Nolan. I cracks me up although I don’t know why. It just seems so old man.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick looks fine

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

He looks like he always looks.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Not a fan of the new hats

thought the ones with the piping down the sides looked much better

by kba26 on Feb 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hate the new hats

I am not a fan of piping on hats. Less ginger bread means more class when it comes to unis.

by BaltoBen on Feb 22, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You won't see them again after Spring Training

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Feb 22, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

"What should I do guys?"

“He hasn’t said a word since I said he looks better without that stupid beard”

by daveh873 on Feb 22, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Nolan: “Coach, I don’t recognize this guy. What happened to Nick?”

by BrianS on Feb 22, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahaha.

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Feb 22, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i want one of those shirts.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 23, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Nick's or Nolan's?

Didn’t we try to find that shirt for you last year with no luck?

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 23, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

nolan's

AJ had a very similar one last year, and it was discontinued everywhere. I think the bird was a little smaller and higher on it.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Feb 23, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

yea those are nice

although im not that jacked, so maybe that shirt wouldnt fit.

by twistedlogic on Feb 23, 2010 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Did anybody watch that video about tryouts for the PA announcer at ST?

My dad was supposed to go try out, but I think he ended up having to travel for work.

Also Adam Jones is funny as shit.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 3:54 PM EST reply actions  

how do they pick's who best?

the tone of their voice? rather or not they pronounce matusz right?

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 22, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably a combination

of sound, pronunciation, excitement, etc.

It’s a panel of judges.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

excitement?

i don’t care rather or not the guy announcing who’s at bast sounds excited, just say the name then have someone press the button for batting music.

Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano

by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 22, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, great.

Roberts has a herniated disc.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Feb 22, 2010 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

There's stuff elsewhere, too, but here you go.

http://masnsports.com/2010/02/roberts-talks-about-his-back.html

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Feb 22, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh

doesn’t seem like a big deal to me.

What a stupid comment on that article by the way…

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Which comment

I’d say roughly 50% of them are pretty stupid. I’m guessing you meant the one about bunting though.

by daveh873 on Feb 22, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

when I looked that was the only one there.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok so

Getting a response from Adam Jones on Twitter is pretty much the most exciting thing that happened to me at work today.

staceyMlong: Great pic of @THE_ADAM_JONES from The Sun. Definitely my new desktop background. http://ow.ly/19Y9i

THE_ADAM_JONES: @staceyMlong awwww thx. I like it also. Forgot what I was saying though.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

today???

That’s more exciting than anything that’s happened to me at work in years.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

"at work"

was the key part of that sentence that I’m guessing you missed.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

yea but you work from home

pishhh…thats like not working at all!

by twistedlogic on Feb 22, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

This is true.

but it doesn’t make it any more exciting. I miss out on all the public transportation excitement (such as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQJFv9SMSMQ&feature=channel)

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

holy crap

my commute to work wasnt nearly as exciting.

by twistedlogic on Feb 22, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

mine never was either – even when I used to take the NYC subway to work every day I never saw much of any interest. The occasional crazy but nothing too interesting.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Love that vid

The white guy has been dubbed “Epic Beaded Man (EBM)” by the internet, and the cute girl in purple has been dubbed “Amber Lamps.” EBM is (thought to be) the same dude who was tazed at an Oakland A’s game a few years ago. There’s also an interview video floating around that was taken a few days after the bus altercation; EBM is a crazy Vietnam vet who has abrupt mood swings.

by PhilR8 on Feb 22, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I did a bunch of reading

about EBM – saw the taser video too.

EBM is definitely insane.

by O'sFan21 on Feb 22, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Insane

But that the made the video all that much better.

Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)

by DCO'sfan on Feb 22, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn’t seen that yet. (I’m quite behind on my Internet memes.)

But, awesome.

by BrianS on Feb 23, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Aww, man.

If he’d remembered what he said, then we would’ve had a sure winner for the caption contest.
I remember the first time I got a reply from him, I was flipping ecstatic. It’s quite exciting.

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Feb 22, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, right?

I’m actually a little surprised at how happy it made me.

"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."

by Stacey on Feb 22, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

From Home Plate on XM's Twitter feed

Should MLB players be allowed to carry weapons in the clubhouse? We’ll ask #Orioles OF Luke Scott & #Cardinals RP Ryan Franklin tonight…

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Feb 22, 2010 8:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Oh, that should be good...

"He's a gazelle." -Adam Jones on Nolan Reimold.

by LenaO on Feb 22, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

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