Wednesday Bird Droppings
by Camden Chat on Feb 24, 2010 7:00 AM EST
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First things first: Happy 54th birthday to the awesome Eddie Murray. Rumor has it he might be joining the O's broadcast team on a part time basis in 2010.
Orioles' early injuries are a little ominous - baltimoresun.com
Peter Schmuck is worried about the injuries. Andy MacPhail says, "Chill. It'll be fine." -Stacey
Notebook: Orioles are anxious to get a look at Bell - baltimoresun.com
Josh Bell is going to keep his mouth closed and his ears open at Spring Training this year and so far has made a good impression on Dave Trembley. I wonder is there ever a ST article about someone who makes a bad impression early on? -Stacey
Tejada excited to be back | orioles.com: News
Everyone is just so excited to have Miggi back, especially Brian Roberts who can't stop with the gushing. -Stacey
BaseballAmerica.com: The Complete Top 100 Prospects List
Baseball America has released its top 100 prospects and the Orioles have four on the list: #5 Brian Matusz, #37 Josh Bell, #63 Zach Britton, and #99 Jake Arrieta. Surprised to see Arrieta so low, frankly. -Stacey
Carolina League batting champ hungry for more success in 2010
Steve Melewski profiles prospect Robbie Widlansky. -Stacey
Tejada is comfortable at third - baltimoresun.com
More Miggi love. He feels like he's coming home! He has a big smile! He breaks into an impromptu dance! -Stacey
Roberts, Tillman progressing well | orioles.com: News
Roberts was able to do a lot in yesterday's workouts and hopes to take live batting practice within the next week. Chris Tillman is sorry he fell asleep on that couch. -Stacey
Fun Facts About the Forgotten American League Additions | FanGraphs Baseball
A quick breakdown of Kevin Millwood's best and worst seasons by ERA and FIP. -Stacey
Trembley: Orioles ready to turn corner | Baseball | HeraldTribune.com
Diamond Dave says the team's ready to turn a corner. I'd rather they win more games, personally. -duck
O’s spring training: The 25 who will make it (#3) | WNST
Prediction/preview of the 25 man roster continues with Luke Scott at #3, Miguel Tejada at #4 and Jeremy Guthrie at #5.
For some reason we got away from This Day in Camden Chat, but I'm bringing it back because it's awesome. In 2006, SC names Melvin Mora the 28th Greatest Oriole; In a 2007 pre-season poll, 61% of voters believed the Orioles would finish the season with at least 80 wins (they actually won 69); In 2008 zknower calls attention to an article comparing Leo Mazzone and Rick Kranitz; In 2009 Baltimo gives the first indication of his gigantic crush on Felix Pie, and Nick Markakis raises the roof.
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That FanGraphs article is a bit reassuring.
Yeah, it’s not great that Millwood hasn’t had an FIP below 4 since ‘06, but it does show that his ERA makes him look worse than he is. Granted, if he has an ERA north of 4.5 after the first month or two of the season, none of us are gonna be happy, but hopefully having a better OF defense behind him will help. As long as those ’09 K/9 and BB/9 aren’t the new norm, that is.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
I'm guessing Millwood
sit around 4.65 or so, which isn’t great but isn’t terrible. There is a lot of potential for ballooning, but com’on – anybody who really thinks Kevin Millwood is a top of the rotation pitcher is fucking deluded.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Yeah.
Just seems like some people are assuming he’s only gonna give us ~150 IP at a 5+ ERA, and while that could definitely happen, I’m hopeful that it’ll be more like ~180 IP at a ~4.5 ERA. I can definitely see 4.65.
But yeah, he’s definitely not a #1 or #2. He’s more like a #4 at best at this point.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
I've swung back and forth on him all winter
but I think I’ve settled liking his acquisition as a solid stopgap. He’s like Pedro Martinez compared to our past stopgap efforts (Trachsel, Eaton)!
I’m not really sure what kind of innings he’ll eat, but if he hits 170 I’d be happy (unless it’s with a 5.50 ERA or something)…but all that said, if he just cliff-dives in performance, I won’t be more than a little surprised.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
That's basically how I feel.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
I'm happy with the acquisition.
That said, he’s a candidate to be the worst starter in the rotation.
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um .... question
take a good listen to this video of trembley talking about miguel:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/videobeta/?watchId=9cce1963-3f1d-4c0e-9642-1864e080e1a8
(also embedded in the “tejada says he’s feeling comfortable” sun story)
who is that, near the end, off camera, saying “who is my ball sack” ?
my guess: billy ripken
"Whoooooooaaa Doggie!" -- Gary Thorne
2 1/2 Orioles made Sickels' sleeper list for 2010
Brandon Cooney, Ashur Tolliver, and the 1/2 is Steve Johnson.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Per Sickels
Generally speaking, his sleepers aren’t expected to make good on their status in the majors. What he thinks they have a good chance of doing is raising their prospect status to the national level.
My take is that the Giants will probably trade something to the Orioles in exchange for the rights to demote Johnson.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
You'd think that
the Orioles would want to hold onto Johnson or at least get something of equal value back. I’m not really up on the SF farm system, do you have any ideas what could be coming back?
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
We would be SENDING
for the right to put Johnson back in the minors. It’s more about what we have to send them.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Unless they keep him in the majors, they have to give him back
So if they wanted to demote him to their minor league system, they would basically have to return him to us and then trade us something to get him back without the rule 5 strings attached
why dont we resign jamie walker
and trade him to SF for johnson! brilliant idea!
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
But if WE take him back, WE have to keep him up as well, right?
The trade would let us demote him.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
No
The only rules here are:
The Giants must keep him on their 25 man roster (or disabled list) all season. If they move him off of it, they must expose him to waivers. If any team claims him off waivers, they must keep him on their 25 man roster (or disabled list), just as if the Giants had never waived him. If he passes through waivers, he goes back to the Orioles, not on their 40 man or 25 man rosters, as if he had never been anywhere.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Got it
Whatever I read was completely wrong on this procedure, then. What is the world coming to when you can’t trust something written on the internet???
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
It depends on things I can't know
Like how highly SF values Johnson, and how highly the O’s do. My impression is that SF sees him as much more valuable than we do for some reason. I’m worried that after not protecting him in the first place, the O’s will let SF keep him for very little.
But, if we do let him go, my preferred option would be to get back one of the Giants’ many shortstop prospects. Brandon Crawford and Ehire Adrianza are both shortstops with great gloves and very questionable bats who have divided the scouting community, and ideally, I’d like one of them. But the Giants have a lower rated shortstop prospect who has almost as much chance to be good in Ydwin Villegas. If I’m MacPhail, without knowing what Joe Jordan thinks about any of these guys, I’d try for Crawford or Adrianza but I’d settle for Villegas. The Giants also have a bunch of live bullpen arms with control issues who might be good, but I feel we already have a decent number of those.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Blasphemy
Clear the parking lot, Heyward’s taking BP!: A legend is born? One day after impressing his new teammates with his “outside linebacker” body, Braves super prospect Jason Heyward(notes) showed that he’s not just a weight room wonder. The rookie right fielder managed to hit not one, but two vehicles with batting practice blasts. He dented a Coca-Cola truck (uber-appropriate for an Atlanta ballplayer) and smashed the sunroof on the car of assistant GM Bruce Manno. If Heyward keeps this up, Matt Wieters(notes) may have to relinquish control of the Wieters Facts meme.
Blasphemer!
STONE him!!!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Feb 24, 2010 12:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It was actually
Wieters who did this, he just did it from the O’s ST, so Heyward took the credit.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Surprised to see Arrieta so low, frankly.
I think a lot of prospects pundits are seeing Arrieta as a reliever. He’s lower than Storen and Aumont who both project as as relievers.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I think it is an example of the anchoring effect
Both Storen and Aumont were high first round picks while Arrieta was a mid-round overslot.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
But talent wise, I get the sense that minor league pundits think Arrieta is comparable to Storen and Aumont. That’s sort of depressing.
Bruce Springsteen rules.
I just did a write-up on Arrieta
Looking at the data available on him, I’m very optimistic. I’m not a scout and don’t intend on pretending I am, so it isn’t that I see something when I watch him pitch that makes me say that though.
On the other hand, I’m not a big fan of top 100 lists for prospects in general. I much prefer giving them grades and leaving it at that. Quantifying the difference between top prospects seems to me to be pretty silly. Of course, I’m not a fan of the Oscars either.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I agree on the lists
Thats more just a practice that is fun to look at and thats about it. What difference is there between #91 and #92 or even #90 and #60 for that matter. Its not that great.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
It is also because...
….how do you even compare Arrieta with, say, Tyler Matzek? Much less with someone like Donavan Tate.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
too true
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
On the other hand, I’m not a big fan of top 100 lists for prospects in general. I much prefer giving them grades and leaving it at that. Quantifying the difference between top prospects seems to me to be pretty silly.
Yeah, it is silly because I imagine at around the 50 mark, the guys become indistinguishable in terms of quality. But the guy ranked 50 is seen as a lot better than than the guy at 100.
Bruce Springsteen rules.
Long-term Orioles expectations?
I’m having a time-wasting baseball argument with my wife that led to a question I thought I’d bring up here.
To give background, she’s upset that her team (Philly) has only one of the top 100 prospects in baseball (Domonic Brown), while 4 of the prospects they traded away for Halladay are in the Top 100.
My take is that right now there’s really only two (evil) team whose (douchebag) fans can expect to be in contention for the World Series every single year, and that fans of all the other teams realistically can’t expect their teams to be good every year. Therefore, the Phillies made a good move by going for broke (obviously it would have been better if they could have kept Lee too) and trying to win another title right now when they know they’re really close, even if it came at the expense of “the future”.
But with that overall “most teams won’t (or can’t/can’t be expected to) be good every year” framework in mind, I was thinking about “what’s the level of long-term performance I’d be satisfied with from the Orioles?” At a very vague, high level, perhaps 1 title every 30 or so years is all a fan of any non-Evil Empire team should expect, but it’s more reasonable to expect that they’re at least competitive/interesting to watch most seasons.
(Win the World Series every 20 years or so but be competitive/over .500 more years than not, be in the playoffs every 3 times each decade?)
For example….I guess not winning a title since ’83 could be considered almost acceptable or even to be expected, but this many consecutive awful seasons is not.
Sorry to ramble…I guess what I’m trying to get at is “As a fan, what is it reasonable to expect (not hope) out of your baseball team as satisfactory long-term performance?”
I’d be happy to basically beat the odds. If you toss aside the MFY for a sec:
there are 28-30 teams in each league (I think, I’m mobile commenting here). 4 playoff spots per year, 2 LCS teams per year, 1 WS team per year, all this per league.
So an AVERAGE AL team should be in the playoffs every 7 years, make the LCS every 15, make the WS once every 3 decades (and win the WS once every 60 years).
Of course, we don’t live in a statistically perfect world, so what I want is a financially level playing field (salary cap), and then my teM
does better with a good front office making shrewd decisions.
So I think I’d be happy with something like a playoff appearance twice a decade, a LCD appearAnce once a decade, a WS appearance every 20 years. That would be fine. And a winning record 6 years out of ten. These would all be above the statistical average.
Of course in reality, once we’re good, I want us to compete 3-4 years in a row. I’d hope for a few great years, and then be willing to endure a couple years in the wilderness while we reload.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Feb 24, 2010 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There are 14 teams in the American League
So all things being equal a team should reach once every 3.5 years, not once every 7.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
right, i was totally stoned when i wrote that.
divide everything i said in half
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Feb 24, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ooo,
well, i wasn’t really being honest. not that there’s anything wrong with the occasional dip into the MJ, but i was actually getting my car’s oil changed when i wrote that.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I’d be happy to basically beat the odds. If you toss aside the MFY for a sec:
there are 28-30 teams in each league (I think, I’m mobile commenting here). 4 playoff spots per year, 2 LCS teams per year, 1 WS team per year, all this per league.
So an AVERAGE AL team should be in the playoffs every 7 years, make the LCS every 15, make the WS once every 3 decades (and win the WS once every 60 years).
Of course, we don’t live in a statistically perfect world, so what I want is a financially level playing field (salary cap), and then my teM
does better with a good front office making shrewd decisions.
So I think I’d be happy with something like a playoff appearance twice a decade, a LCD appearAnce once a decade, a WS appearance every 20 years. That would be fine. And a winning record 6 years out of ten. These would all be above the statistical average.
Of course in reality, once we’re good, I want us to compete 3-4 years in a row. I’d hope for a few great years, and then be willing to endure a couple years in the wilderness while we reload.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Feb 24, 2010 12:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
She probably doesn't need to worry too much.
The core of the major league roster (Utley, Halladay, Blanton, Ruiz, Victorino) in Philly is locked up for the next few years, and others (Hamels, Happ, Kendrick, Brown) are still under team control through 2012 or beyond. The big question mark is obviously what happens with Jayson Werth, though I guess Howard and Rollins are only signed through 2011, which could get interesting. They don’t have much upper-minors talent now, but from what I’ve read, there’s a ton of high-upside guys in the lower minors, so I think the Phillies should at least stay competitive for quite a while.
For the rest of your question, I’ve wondered this myself, especially given that we’re in the same division as the Evil Empires. I think what you have in parentheses is about the best we can reasonably expect if you average it all out, but I would think it’ll come and go in clusters (i.e., five years of making or just missing the playoffs followed by five of being in third place, etc.). The main question is, how often can we make the playoffs, since they’re just about a crapshoot once you get in. If we look at it as being 2 AL East playoff spots each year, we could have more like a 50/50 shot each year once we get good, which wouldn’t be bad at all.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
The best that the Orioles, Rays, or Blue Jays can hope to do, at least in the near future
Is to field a well rounded, competitive team year in and year out and bank on the fact that once in awhile everything will go right for them while going wrong for either the Yankees or Red Sox. Sad but true. And given the way things are in the AL East, I’d be happy with that. I have to think that at some point one of those teams will sink back down into mediocrity, even if it’s just for a few years.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
by Stacey on Feb 24, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
…I think things look worse for the Yankees in the long run. So much of their success over the past 10 seasons has been the well above average offense of Jeter at short and Posada at catcher. And getting elite players at these positions is hard to do, no matter how much you have to spend. If Mauer resigns in Minny, things could go bad for the Yankees for a bit.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I kind of think of the Phillies (currently, not over their whole history) as sort of the “best-case-scenario” Orioles rather than a permanent member of the YankeesRedSox Club:
Get a very good nucleus of homegrown talent, make some smart trades, and increase payroll and be able to go on an extended run of several very good years, before sinking back to the pack.
(All that stuff’s easier said than done of course, so I don’t mean to trivialize it, but if the Orioles could put together a run like that where they’re in the playoffs, win 1 title, and re-energize the fan base, I would be thrilled, even if they can’t maintain that perpetually.)
Yeah.
The one advantage the Phillies have is being in the NL East, where they only have to deal with the Mets (poor management and currently injury-addled), the Braves (could be a more serious threat starting this year), the Marlins (too cheap to ever be consistently competitive), and the Nationals (no idea when they might get good). But yeah, even given all that, they are likely to fade a bit after a few more years.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
I don't think settling
for every 30 years is all that great. 17 teams have won since we did in 83. 12 teams teams other than the O’s haven’t won during that time. 8 of those have never won, including 3 teams that never made the world series (Washington, Texas and Seattle). You could say we’re a special case because of our division, but we should be more competitive more often. We really do mirror Pittsburgh in terms of a team that has had success but is stuck. Luckily we are in good shape to turn things around.
we sucked for far too long
Both Pittsburgh and us had terrible management for so long. I think our young talent is better than theirs but they may actually make the playoffs sooner.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
see above
divide everything i said in half. i had twice as many teams as there actually are.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I did catch that
haha, yeah I was going off of every team winning the WS every 30 years from the original comment, but I agree with once every 20 would be more acceptable. With a salary cap to level the playing field, this would really expose the front offices in terms of who is competing and who isn’t. It would definitely bring things closer. If there had been a salary cap before, the O’s lack of international scouting for example might have been more negative. I’m hoping for a burst of appearances myself, we deserve 4 or 5 this decade because of none last one right?
A hard question
I was a fan during the glory days of 1966-1971 when the Orioles were in the WS four of the six years. It was fantastic to root for a mini-dynasty, especially after the Os had been doormats from 1954-1963.
I was also a fan from 1972-1983, when the Orioles almost always had good, well-managed teams. They played fine baseball, made the playoffs most years, and I was proud that our team was so well-run (The Oriole Way). This period was great, although not quite as much fun as 1966-71.
I realize that times and economics have changed, and that the Os cannot, under the current American League East configuration, have a 6 year run like they did in the late 60s. But, there is also no reason why the team, which is in the middle of the pack in revenue, should be horrible, as they have been since 1997.
A run of mis-management, the disastrous Glenn Davis trade, and the drafting of all those sore arm pitchers led us to a dark decade. If the team continues under the current excellent management, there is no reason why we should ever be terrible again.
I would be satisfied with a 4 year run of playoff-competitive teams followed by 2-3 years of re-building followed by 4 good years, and so on. Making the playoffs is the key. Reaching the playoffs makes the entire season fun, and, as has been discussed in this thread, a playoff team can ride a hot bat or a hot pitcher all the way to the WS.
The above cycle is a good strategy for the group of teams that are not the NYYs, the Red Sox or LA. It would mean that half the have-nots would be willing to trade prospects to rebuilding teams for established players. When the rebuilding teams had rebuilt, they, in turn, would be willing to trade their prospects for the established players needed to make a run for a couple of years. So, the cycle would benefit all.
From Roch
Nolan Reimold said his Achilles was a little sore after yesterday’s workout and batting practice session, “but nothing major.”
“I just iced it yesterday to stay on top of it,” he said. “It’s getting better and better.”
I know Reimold is the named left fielder but if he’s going to continue to have trouble with his achilles it might be beneficial for him to spend some time at DH. Give Luke and Felix some time in LF so that he can rest his foot a bit. I wonder how long until it doesn’t bother him at all?
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
You're just plotting Pie's hostile takeover of LF
based on your love of his adorableness.
LEAVE NOLAN REIMOLD ALONE!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I'm looking out for Nolan!!
I don’t want them throwing him out there seven days a week if it’s going to be detrimental to him over the course of the season.
I don’t ALWAYS have a Pié agenda.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
Honestly?
I can seriously see Reimold switching to 1B if Pie continues to scorch the ball. He’s got the raw power, 1B-in-waiting Snyder doesn’t. Pie’s got the wheels.
Pie-Jones-Markakis is a hell of a defensive OF, never mind the offense.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
I can seriously see Reimold switching to 1B
He’s not a lefty throwing or batting wise. Not that that’s a preempts a move to 1B.
Bruce Springsteen rules.
yea and that would require more than a month of "scorching" from pie
and snyder not showing up at all. snyder at least has some experience at first. i’d rather let him have a decent shot to play before i start moving other guys around.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
Sometime in May or June
Nolan launched one off of Mariano. Absolutely launched it. OK, it was garbage time & Mariano was only pitching because he needed work, but still, him getting hit like that isn’t something you see every day.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
that was his first home run
quite the pitcher to get it off of, too
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I would guess
that even if Reimold were 100% healthy, he’ll be seeing some time at DH to make room for Pie. Either that or Pie’ll be playing DH, but it’d make no sense to have the better defender DHing. Not that I’m putting it past some of these guys…
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I don't trust Trembley to do the right thing with Pie
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
by Stacey on Feb 24, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, it's either
Pie sits on the bench and plays once a week, or he gets into left field semi-regularly until either Scott is traded, Atkins completely fails, someone gets hurt, or Reimold/Pie doesn’t pan out. I haven’t heard anything to suggest that the plan is to leave Pie on the bench.
But yeah, I don’t exactly trust Trembo neither. But it’ll work out. These things always do.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Pie could be as budding of a star as Adam Jones, if he's not already
But I know that Trembley will be perfectly content to give Felix an opportunity once a week, and I fear that Andy will keep telling the perplex fans and media that Pie will get his shot eventually.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
It's funny
last year it felt like a lot of people were afraid they’d keep throwing Pie out there even though he might not be any good (and actually…yeah, they did do that for a while), and now everyone’s got their skivvies all twisted because they might not see nearly enough Pie.
It’s a difficult puzzle for a man with questionable puzzle-solving skills (you just keep teaching our plus hitting catcher who can’t run how to sacrifice bunt, Dave) – but I haven’t read even one word suggesting that Trembley et al are going to let Pie ride the pine 80% of the time.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I'll speak for myself
I was 110% against benching Pie even during his struggles, and was very vocal about it, but now I’m now mostly resigned.
I’m going to base my skepticism toward Trembley on the facts that a.) he went out of his way to keep Pie on the bench last year, and b.) he made it clear this year that Reimold is the sole option in left unless Nolan either dies or loses his right arm, in which case there would be a debate over who should start.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
i wouldnt put it past him
they might just lay reimold’s corpse out in left field…..
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
the only redeeming thing about the whole thing and what I cling to
Is the fact that while Pie was MIA and we all thought we’d seen the last of him, Terry Crowley and Pie were working their asses off every single day to make fixes and those things seemed to really help. Of course, Pie only ever made it back out onto the field because AJ got hurt, but when it did it was obvious he was working hard. It was almost like Pie got sent to the minors to work on some things but he just couldn’t actually get sent to the minors. I’d hoped that after his success Trembley would give him more of a shot but he really is in a tough position, and he doesn’t seem the type to creatively finagle at bats for all of the outfielders. It’s also why the Atkins signing makes me more and more annoyed. Luke Scott showed willingness to play first and has said time and again he prefers the field. DH/LF/CF could have been adequately split between Pie, Jones, and Reimold with them all getting plenty of chances in the field and also the opportunity to keep Jones and Reimold fresh. Yeah they’re both young but they both had injuries last year.
Trembley has always seemed to be a little bit anti-Pie, although I’m not quite sure why. I am certain that MacPhail is in Pie’s corner, though, and that gives me hope.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
The big question is, where are the ABs going to come from?
Obviously, that whole problem would’ve been solved had we not signed Atkins and put Luke at first, as you point out (and as I wish they’d done). But as much as MacPhail does seem bullish on Pie, I just don’t know how he’s going to get the playing time for us to tell whether his second half is what he’s regularly capable of. If the usual lineup has Atkins at 1B, Luke at DH, and Nolan in LF, Pie doesn’t play. If Nolan is DH and Pie is LF, then Luke’s just benched, which isn’t the end of the world, but he’s our biggest power bat right now and it’s a bit of a waste.
I just don’t know how we’re going to get ABs for both Pie and Reimold unless Luke gets traded or something, and we do need to give both of them ABs. Reimold seems like more of a sure thing, but just like Pie, if he doesn’t get regular ABs, he’s not going to develop as much and he’s going to be harder to evaluate. Of course, injuries happen, and it may all work out, but I don’t want any of Reimold/Jones/Pie getting injured just so the other two play every day.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
Atkins
I fear that in addition to sucking, Atkins will also be blocking at bats from Pie. With the roster the way it is, I think Reimold needs to play everyday and Pie needs to hit against right handers (if nothing else though even this is marginalizing his potential future value). Of course, you have to start Scott against right handers too. And I can’t imagine they are going to bench the big off season signing even though they should. I’m guessing Jones gets a day off every other week, but that comes out to 15 games a year or something.
Librarians are hiding something
I agree, there's just not that much upside with Atkins
and the downside is that he not only sucks, but takes PAs away from Pie. Ugh. But the show must go on, I suppose.
If we say Pie, Reimold, and Scott can all play DH or LF, and that gives a total of like 1300 PA for three guys (not even pondering days when Jonesy isn’t playing and of course not accounting for injury or trade). So a completely even split would give each of those guys over 400 PA each.
That’s obviously not realistic – but my point is that there are PAs available if Trembley is willing to fit in Pie on a regular basis.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Off-Topic: Fuck you Andy Murray
I need to stop betting on tennis.
by kba26 on Feb 24, 2010 1:00 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
yea
these guys NEVER win when they are favored.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
i'm out
although i’ve been out for a while. i just keep doing ridiculous parlays to try and get over a dollar on the first bet. never works out. did happen to win one last nite and was screwed over when i bet the remainder on murray and some other guy. lost both.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
what site are you guys betting on?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
centsports.com
naturally, i’m losing my bets today as well. the “get to a dollar fast” strategy isnt working out so well.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
That site
Its fun, but i think its pretty much impossible to actually cash out, i’ve tried, and i just gave up. There is a forumla for picking who gets money each week, and its never going to be me.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
yea...the real trick is getting to 20 dollars
its not so hard to make money after that cuz you can bet on huge favorites and generally win. betting on the massive favorites when you have nothing is pointless cuz you make fractions of a penny. i can’t really seem to get myself above 5 bucks, but maybe its cuz i’m so impatient.
by twistedlogic on Feb 25, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
Betting on massive favorites also pointless when that massive favorite is andy fuckng murray
I’m still bitter.
You guys finally convinced me
and my first bet? A 2-bet parlay on 2 MMA fights where I’ve heard of one of the two chicks. The two dudes? Never heard of them.
This oughta be fun.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
my four line parlay to win like 2.50 (off of 10 cents) is hinging on AS Roma
so far, i’ve nailed the other 3, where i was betting against the “favorite.” the one bet on the favorite? yea, losing that.
by twistedlogic on Feb 25, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
I put a lot of money on a parlay of Werder Bremen to win and the over on a 3 goal line
I was a little nervous about taking the over. Its not even halftime and the score is 3-1 Bremen :)
i had those as well
that bet was killed by juventus not scoring at all. i’m not sure how those tourneys work, since amsterdam was heavily favored the last time they played (last week).
by twistedlogic on Feb 25, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Have to take into account of the fact that was the 2nd leg
A lot of soccer tournaments play 2-legged knockout rounds, each team playing once at home and total score deciding who goes through. Ties are broken by whoever scores more away goals.
Juventus was up 2-1 with two away goals already. All they had to do to advance was to stop Ajax from scoring 2, so it made a lot more sense for them to sit back and defend that to have any attacking pressure. They could have lost 1-0 and it still would have been a good result.
oh okay
i was a little confused on how that worked.
by twistedlogic on Feb 25, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
Nah
Cause then you can lose it real fast too. Those upsets happen as well. I’m above $20 but i’ve given up on actually getting any cash.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 25, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I feel your pain
I had money on that match too. Almost all my money in centsports has come from men’s tennis
Ummm...
I’m going to need to demand credit for my old sig photo of Eddie Murray up there. I know The Sun took the photo and all. But I actually found it, linked it and put a lawn chair on it – which means I own it, in Baltimore.
I thought of you when I saw it
I was looking through the Sun’s Eddie photos.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
Not anymore
The mayor’s said the lawn chairs needs to be removed. And don’t feel like you can key the car of the mod that took your spot.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
The Mayor is (another) crook.
Her word carries about as much weight to me as Jim the Junkie down on Falls Road.
But seriously though…that lawn chairs things was absolutely ridiculous. I still cannot believe people do that in Baltimore, or anywhere for that matter.
Meet the new boss...
Same as the old boss…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Feb 24, 2010 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i had to google to see what you were talking about.
If you can’t assume you’ll be able to use the parking space you dug out, your incentive to create it would plunge. The city and neighborhoods would lose the labor of thousands of car owners who help recreate civilization each time the heavens dump white stuff all over the place.
WHAT? This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard of, as is sticking furniture in the street to keep your parking space. What a bunch of wusses.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
It's everywhere!
http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2010/02/21/can-you-dig-it/
Though not in Rochester. I guess the city just takes care of its streets well enough that digging out cars isn’t a problem? Seriously, it’s been snowing since November but I don’t even own a snow shovel.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Ive been through some serious snow storms in my lifetime in Noth NJ
and Ive never seen or heard of anything like that ever. That’s crazy.
People in South Philly do this all the time
even when there’s no snow.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Feb 24, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
nope.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
It's absurd.
The common bullshit reason given is “I spent X number of hours (multiply actual time spent by 4) digging out my car therefore I have a right to hold onto that spot after doing so much work.”
The sense of entitlement involved here is astonishing. But it is very widespread throughout Baltimore City and apparently they were doing it in DC as well. It’s basically a mentality of scarcity that takes hold (which you don’t even need a snowstorm to create the proper conditions for in half of Baltimore) and people revert to some seriously selfish behavior. You notice it more in the working class and poorer neighborhoods as well – in keeping with the whole scarcity thing.
that's just the way it is in Bmore, JP
Has been for a long time. I don’t have to lower myself to such acts because I have my own parking spot. Instead I laugh at the common folk forced to park in the street.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
by Stacey on Feb 24, 2010 3:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe I'm missing the point, but...
what’s wrong with wanting to keep a parking space you go to the trouble of digging out? I live in an apartment complex in Eastern PA where the parking lot is all unreserved, and when I shoveled a space out two weeks ago, I wanted to keep it (and of course, came back from work to see it taken).
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
it's common property, that's what
if you follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, then nobody who wasn’t parked in a neighborhood gets to park in it again until all the snow is melted. ridiculous.
if i happened to be parked 4 blocks away when the storm hit, that means i’m required to park 4 blocks away for the next month? um, no.
you take the time to dig out your car? thanks, then. thanks for contributing to the community pot. but you don’t get special treatment. And if you want to repark, you can wait until a spot becomes available like everyone else, or dig out a new one. parking enforcement is pretty lax everywhere during snowstorms, and even in the aftermath of the worst blizzard, it’s not that hard to dig out a new spot.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Not hard?
Too bad you weren’t here to experience it. There weren’t places to put all the snow you shoveled out. I created several mounds of snow that were taller than I were while digging out my car, my GF’s car, my GF’s littly old lady landlord’s car, and the sidewalks. Twice. It got to the point where you’d throw snow on top of these piles and it’d just tumble right off, back onto the street.
And you know what? My GF lives in the little old lady’s basement in a working-class neighborhood just outside of the beltway off of York Road, the one JP seems to think so poorly of. I did at least twelve actual hours – not multiplied by four – of shoveling. Everyone did. The guy across the street used his snowblower to do the sidewalks for the entire street and didn’t even wait around for a thank-you. Everyone pitched in and we were all shoveling together and everyone respected each others efforts.
I agree with you to a point, but it’s not hard to understand why someone would want a little courtesy and respect from others who live in the same neighborhood. In the working class neighborhood I was snowed in at, no cones were necessary because there was mutual respect. And JP just posted that in his enlightened neck of the woods, fistfights were erupting and someone stole his spot. Just goes to show the kind of uninformed psychobabble bullshit that gets thrown around sometimes.
I actually live in the capital of space savers:
Hampden. If you call that the “enlightened neck of the woods”, then I got news for you. Also nobody “stole” my spot. It wasn’t mine so there was nothing to steal.
I’m sorry to offend your delicate class sensibilities, Phil, but if you travel around town you find less space saving going on in the neighborhoods with more money (and without driveways – Fells Point, Federal Hill, Canton etc). That’s just a fact. I’m glad to hear there was camradery going on in your neck of the woods though. That’s the way it should be. I just wish there was more of it.
Also, I don’t believe you did twelve hours of work. Sorry. It took me 1.5 hours to dig out my car on the day after the second storm and my car 1) is enormous, 2) was in the shade and 3) had snow from the car next to me piled up next to it.
You'll have to excuse me if I don't give a fuck what you personally believe
It’s America and you can believe what you want. Great country we have here.
Hehe!
You’re a good troll, JP. I do have to admire your skillz as a bullshit artist.
by PhilR8 on Feb 24, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, if only
I like sparring on here and on the internet in general, but fortunately I don’t experience true anger very often in life. I’ve led a somewhat comfortable and coddled life, and there’s too much to look forward to to let internet tough guys get to me. I just call em like I see em, and I like to use the word fuck. I hope you didn’t think that you were important enough in my life to get me hot under the collar, did you? I hope not. That’d be a little sad.
Deluded?
Is that what you’re calling yourself now? Must have been that 12…oh I’m sorry, or was it 24? or 48? hours you spent in the salt mines shoveling. Did they give you a badge down there or some sort of medal?
schooled AGAIN!
stackin up the lunchboxes!
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
actually
I lived in Federal Hill for the blizzard of ’03 and it was space saving city. One of the main parking roads in Federal Hill, Charles Street, is a snow emergency route and therefore no parking allowed. Parking was cut throat.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
by Stacey on Feb 24, 2010 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
After these storms...
…the space saving was much less in all three of the hoods I listed. You still had knuckleheads (this is Baltimore), but if you roamed through Hampden, practically every empty space was saved. I found spots in all three of those hoods on residential streets. In Hampden you had to park at the Rotunda or on the Avenue.
dude
I experienced a 36" all-time record-breaking snowstorm in Brooklyn 2 or 3 years ago. We got another helping a week later, and the stuff stayed around for a month. It’s not like I’ve never been through what you’ve been through.
Shovelling out a car, particularly when it’s been plowed in, is never easy. But people take their time and do it. Or pay a neighborhood guy with a shovel to do it (which helps the local economy, no less….an option your GF and her landlord could have employed instead of taking advantage of you). Nobody saved spaces, people pitched in when someone needed help, it all worked out just fine. Nobody would even THINK to put lawnchairs on the street in NYC—they’d get laughed off the block.
The point is, after a few days, half the cars have been dug out, and after a week, nearly all of them have. Who seriously wants to deal with “same seats” and such? If you don’t want to deal with street parking, either leave your car where it is, or get a garage spot. But you will never convince me that because your car was in that spot when the white stuff came down, you then get to keep that spot until it all melts.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
No one took advantage of me
Never said that. I enjoyed doing it, truth told, and went out of my way to do clear a bunch around the street because I had the time and energy. Hopefully I accumulated some karma that week. And like I said, there were no lawn chairs where I was. But in the past I’ve been in apartment complexes and situations like OEutaw below so I can understand why lawn chairs were used.
I had the time and the strength, but not everyone does. Some people suck it up and shovel out their spot while others just take. I think I just don’t get why people are defending the takers.
If you cant do it yourself
Then pay someone else to. If you dont have money to do that then sell your car and take public transportation because you probably cant afford a car in the first place.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
LMAO
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
I hear that
The blizzard of ‘96 was a major incentive for me to get a house with a driveway. (Personally, the only parts of the house I gave a damn about were the music room and the driveway.) Digging out every morning because the plows had bermed me in, then digging a fresh post every evening, was just too much. OTOH, I don’t blame anyone for doing what they had to, just Giuliani’s dept of sanitation for just pushing the snow around for weeks, instead of actually getting rid of it. No lawn chairs in the Bronx—they just would have gotten stolen.
by fishoutawata on Feb 24, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
no one "just takes"
the overwhelming majority of people moving into a spot had to dig their car out from somewhere else.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
so
Every spot you have ever parked in was one you shoveled out? Even if you went to your friends house for a few hours or went out to a restraunt? Sharing public property is part of life, get used to it and try and find an injusice in the world that actually matters to care about.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oh God no
I was an asshole once. Especially back when I had a shitty car and didn’t care what someone might do to it. Now, though, I like to think that I’ve gotten a little older and a little wiser and have the ability to reflect upon all the dick moves I’ve made in my life and start working to atone for them. It’s just like My Name is Earl, except without the whole financial windfall. Standing up to the takers – it’s on the list!
yea...there are people who "just take"
assholes do exist in this world.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
It's also a cycle
If you have a handful of people doing the whole lawn chair thing, people who normally wouldn’t do that are like, “oh shit, I better do that or I won’t get a place to park!”
My neighborhood was very helpful with each other during this snow. We dug out with each other and made sure all of the older folks in the neighborhood had clear paths. Like I said before, we shoveled our entire street, and it was actually nice to spend some time with the folks. But they still put their lawn chairs out :)
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
This makes a lot of sense
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I kept lamenting the fact
that no kids seemed interested in making any money shoveling out my car. I would have paid big time. I’m very lazy.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
i agree with you in theory
But it’s pretty awful spending two hours digging out your car (that’s how long it took me, no exaggeration) running out to the store, and returning to no parking space.
It happens when there is much less snow and I think it’s stupid, but after that second storm in for days we had about four feet of snow on the ground. My neighborhood has no lawns, no median strips, nowhere to put four feet of snow other than where cars normally park. Baltimore city was woefully unprepared; my street NEVER saw a plow, we shoveled the entire thing ourselves. So while it may seem silly and wrong, it’s understandable to me.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
by Stacey on Feb 24, 2010 3:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
It's ridiculous.
No matter the amount of snow. Once again, there are many spots available as people dig out. Not more, not less. The thing that eliminated available spots in our neighborhood, Stace, was the space saving. Not the snow.
This.
Once again, there are many spots available as people dig out. Not more, not less. The thing that eliminated available spots in our neighborhood, Stace, was the space saving. Not the snow.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
It's pretty simple.
A parking space on a public street is public space. That doesn’t change simply because there was snowstorm and people are forced to dig out. Everyone who parks on the street needs to dig out in order to go somewhere. It’s not something unique or special to one individual. Further as a simple law of mathematics if X number of spaces are dug out in a given neighborhood, exactly X number will be vacant. People come and go sure. But in the larger picture what did more to eliminate the availability of parking spaces after the storms were the “space savers” placed out on the city streets.
Then you have the aftermath. I dug a space out and never thought to save it because it seemed absurd to me. But when I drove back by, sure enough, someone had placed a lawn chair in the space I dug out. Beyond that vandalism, petty arguments, even fistfights erupted across the city in retribution to people “stealing” spots. Except it wasn’t stealing, because the spots are public. Finally the entitlement went to whole new level, to the point where this morning I saw some asshole “saving” a spot on the street with a lawn chair, despite the fact that the snow is all melted.
+1
I agree 100%. If you’re spot is “stolen”, cry me a river. Because the person who stole it had to dig out their spot wherever it was, their car didn’t magically just lose all the snow on and around it. Its public property and space saving just makes everybody’s life worse, and the people that dont get that fact tend to be less educated.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
ppl in new england do that all the time
i would probably be one of them. i had to park almost 2 miles away last nite cuz somebody got my spot that i had dug out.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Boston allows ‘reserved’ spots (usually via cones, lawn chairs) for 48 hours after a snow emergency has been declared. The mayor can extend it. Seems like a reasonable trade off to me. Shovel out and you hold the spot for two days. Afterwords, sanitation crews are free to pick up anything left in the street to reserve a spot.
I’m chuckling at all the indignation from guys who rarely have to deal with snow.
i like that policy
spent some time up in NH actually dealing with the snow. its funny how your opinion of the lawn chair thing changes when you’re dealing with snow on a regular basis.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
I actually like it too
It adds some order to the whole thing. I hate the lawn chair thing b/c its just out of control. I live in Pittsburgh, so first of all people should be used to snow, and second of all there are still chairs everywhere 2 to 3 weeks after the fact. I blame it on the yin’sers.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, for all the "no saving spaces" folks
You spend all morning digging your car out from 4 feet of snow. You’re tired, your back hurts. You go to work. You come home & all the dug out spaces are taken. Tough sh*t, you say? Dig again, you say? Fine – where do you park while you dig? Your car doesn’t conveniently hover out-of-the-way while you labor over a place for it to snuggle down & spend the night.
The “ever mobile car creates a space” theory is great in theory. But when neighbor so & so’s girlfriend digs herself out & decides she’s going to spend the next storm with him, that’s +1 car to the street with no space created.
Now, I’m not saying I agree with the lawn chair policy, but I do understand it.
What should happen is that you not only dig out your car, but the neighbors all help to dig out the spaces on the street. That works with significant amounts of snow, provided you can all agree on where to put it. What we had this year was beyond “significant”. That’s why the city turned to melting snow rather than trucking it out or plowing it. Physics came into play.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
I agree that it sucks to lose your spot
But the space saving just makes things worse for everybody in the long run. If you have a problem with sharing public property then invest in some private parking. Whats worse than losing “your” spot is losing it and then being told to respect another persons “spot”.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 24, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly...
..it’s a city. That means shared public space. Not “I shoveled so it’s mine. It’s miiiiiiiiiiine!”
So... no answer as to where you should park while you shovel a new spot?
Because that’s why I understand it. (I don’t participate in this)
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
garage
parking lot.
hover and wait for someone to leave.
take public transportation and sell your car.
life seems to go on. i don’t think there are a lot of people out there who come home from work and have to spend the night in their car because they can’t find a place to put it.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
haha
how would spend the nite in your car? you cant park it!
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Okay...
My old house in Patterson Park was a good distance from the nearest garage. (Little Italy?) Parking lots were nearer, but you’re still talking about a mile. Now, I am big on walking most places in the city, but not in 4 feet of snow with a toddler + infants.
And, again, say I park where I can find a spot. It’s blocks away. I walk home, get my shovel, clear out a space, walk back to my car, drive back to my street and… someone’s taken my new space.
See, I don’t participate in the lawn chair wars, but I understand them. Because it is a city & there is a lot of traffic coming & going.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Sorry...
but this would be really stupid and you would deserve somebody taking your space:
And, again, say I park where I can find a spot. It’s blocks away. I walk home, get my shovel, clear out a space, walk back to my car, drive back to my street and… someone’s taken my new space.
And this is another reason why I don't live in the city
If I spent 4 hours digging out a spot and ran to the store and came back to some 12-year-old Corrola in it, I’d be damn near homicide.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Feb 24, 2010 6:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i'd say slash his tires
but then its a given that he isnt moving from your spot.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, here's a real treat
You wait for the snow to stop & give Mr. Plow a chance to clear the street. You spend those 4 hours busting your ass getting the car out.
And 5 minutes later the Plow King comes by & reburies the car!!!
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
Call Mr Plow,
That’s the name,
That name again
is Mr. Plow
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
USA 2, Switzerland 0
USA Hockey in the semis!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
hee hee
from the kranitz/mazzone thread:
wait for it…
I think D-Cabs was being asked to do something he can’t do.
Pitch?
bada BANG
by SC on Feb 24, 2008 12:44 PM PST up actions 0 recs
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Feb 24, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
So I just saw an awesomely badass Adam Jones commercial on TV
I can’t find it online but I’m bad at searching.
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
I thought the US was eliminated from curling...
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Feb 24, 2010 7:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
wow.....interesting convo going on in the "the orioles should have a winning season thread"
okay, i’m out. see you retards in october when the orioles have another losing season and the redskins start another……losing season. shit, i don’t know where i’m going with this…..
as a skins fan, i hate you for that
but yea, its true. i wish the skins would follow the o’s and, you know, actually DRAFT players.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
My dislike for the Skins aside
I have nothing against DC, but if you are going to bust on Bmore for being a town of losers, maybe you should look at yourself first (refering to that guy in the other thread, not you). I mean, The last DC championship was in ’91, right? The Ravens won in 2000 and have been better most seasons since then as well. It just seems like an idiotic argument.
I guess I got under his skin by saying something about the Redskins
but honestly, you’d think that fans of both the O’s and Redskins would have a sense of humor about their plight.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
seriously yo
i’ve been fucked over forever. so much that its actually funny.
by twistedlogic on Feb 24, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, DC United's won 3 MLS Cups.
Just sayin’.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
As well you should. :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I almost agreed with you
Then i remembered i’m probably the only person on here who puts any value at all on MLS titles.
Now there's two of us.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Wow, hadn't checked that one out in a few days.
Stacey, you will probably being sending me a letter of reprimand…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
"Westbrook" on ESPN
Did anyone see this live? Someone called into ESPN as Brian Westbrook, got on the air live, and proclaimed their love for Howard Stern’s colon or something to that effect.
Oh...
….it was Captain Janks. How did they not catch that one? That guy is obviously a white guy trying to talk like a black guy. They deserved to get played.
Why would anyone at ESPN put a caller on air?
If you didn’t call the person, you can never be sure it’s him/her.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Definitely no clubs
I could go for an old fashioned watering hole type place where I wouldn’t feel like a weirdo drinking alone.
So...
…why do you need a rec for that?
I would do a search on here (I’d link for you but I’m on mobile and it’s a pain) for the first installment of a travel series I did called "O"ly Planet: Chicago. It has a lot of Chitown recs in the comments. And yes this is for real.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 25, 2010 6:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Here ya go
http://www.camdenchat.com/2008/4/15/399099/o-ly-planet-chicago
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
it's not a nightlife recommendation,
but the profiteroles at Brasserie Jo are the best I’ve ever had in my life.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Looks awesome
unfortunately I don’t get to pick dinner spots – we went to http://provincerestaurant.com/ tonight. It was good.
Tomorrow we’re going to http://www.piccolosognorestaurant.com/ for dinner.
damn.
that piccolo sogno looks good.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
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