Sunday Bird Droppings
by duck on Feb 7, 2010 11:07 AM EST
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So, here are your late news clippings, since I slept in and am craving a hot breakfast. Serve them with syrup and pass the coffee, will ya?
Diamond Dave says 5th spot is open - School of Roch | MASN
Dave Trembley says the 5th spot in the rotation is up for grabs, and Chris Tillman certainly has a shot. -duck
MASN Looking For Nats And Os Fans For Ads | Washington D.C. Metblogs
You know those MASN Defining Moments ads? Well, unfortunately, they're not as dead as we had hoped they would be. Casting calls have gone out for Monday in Baltimore and on Feb. 15th in Washington, callbacks are in Baltimore on Feb. 20 & 21. You have been warned. -duck
Ripken, Robinson say Tejada will thrive at third base - baltimoresun.com
Well, if Cal and Brooks say it can be done, then, by goodness, it can be done. -duck
Bedard weighed O's offer before re-signing with Mariners - baltimoresun.com
Erik Bedard thought long and hard about joining the O's before re-upping with the Mariners. Sorta like being someone's backup choice to the prom, isn't it? -duck
Royals Rotten Decade | Kings of Kauffman
Thought the Orioles had a bad decade? Well, they did, but not as bad as the Royals. -duck
ONE LATE ADDITION...
Amber Theoharis choice - Keep doing what she is doing.... | Washington Examiner
Amber Theoharis is not likely to leave her full time gig at MASN to replace Anita Marks on The Scott Garceau Show. She will guest-host Monday, but that's it. -duck
AND ON THIS DATE IN CAMDEN CHAT HISTORY...
Bruce Chen was signed by the Texas Rangers in 2007, zk's boyfriend signed a 1-year deal with the O's and Erik Bedard was in Seattle to sign his contract with the M's in 2008, while proof that A-Rod tested positive in 2003 was released and we settled the argument over "The "Boss" Bruce Springsteen in an off-topic poll for the ages in 2009.
Danny Torrance: What was the Donner Party?
Jack Torrance: They were a party of settlers in covered-wagon times. They got snowbound one winter in the Open Thread. They had to resort to cannibalism in order to stay alive.
Danny Torrance: You mean they ate each other up?
Jack Torrance: They had to, in order to survive.
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Just sayin'
I love Bruce Springsteen. My dad grew up two townships over from him, and my dad and his friends used to see The Boss playing live (when he wasn’t ridiculously famous, of course) in bars. He has his autograph on a napkin.
I think Springsteen knew my dad’s name at one point, but I don’t think he’d remember him now.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
This is the exact reason
a ton of people from NJ like him. “He grew up 15 minutes from me!”. Who gives a crap? People like the hometown heroes, but sometimes they just suck. I’m not saying you shouldn’t like him, but knowing someone or growing up near them is definitely not a reason to think they are good.
God damn I dislike Springsteen.
That's not why I think he's good.
I think he’s good for a few reasons. 1) I grew up on him. Don’t you get attached to the music that played in your parent’s car when you were driving to school? 2) I like him because he makes great music. 3) He shares my politics.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Sure
I’m attached to the Monkees, because I used to love Daydream Believer and listened to it in my mom’s car all the time. I like them mostly because of that, but in no way do I think they made great music, just catchy, fun stuff. I also couldn’t care less about their politics. If they agree with me, awesome, but if they don’t I won’t stop listening to their music or enjoying them. If that were the case I couldn’t watch the O’s, because a ton of them hold beliefs contrary to my own.
Again, don’t take this as a personal attack. It’s just me venting my personal feelings about him. People should like whoever they like regardless of what others think. The guy is just NOT a good musician or vocalist by any leap of the imagination. He’s a great preformer though.
The guy is just NOT a good musician or vocalist by any leap of the imagination. He’s a great preformer though.
He is also, occasionally, a good songwriter. But just as often a mediocre one.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Sounds like a great challenge
you name a crappy Bruce song and I’ll name a great one. Bet I last longer.
What looks large from a distance, close up ain't never that big.
by mystery tramp on Feb 7, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not taking it as a personal attack.
But you seem to think that he’s an awful musician because he doesn’t play to your tastes. Here’s how I think about it: I don’t like jazz, but I can appreciate and will admit that jazz musicians are some of the most talented in the world. Does it mean I have to like them? No.
I think you have to look at it in perspective. Yes, he doesn’t have a good voice. But if you go by that argument, Bob Dylan is an awful musician, too. Bob Dylan is one of the greatest musicians of all time. Granted, he has many talents—his lyrics are poetry, his arrangements are genius, his style is always evolving etc. etc.
Look, I love Bruce Springsteen, but I will never say he’s one of the greatest musicians ever. I’d say the Beatles, Dylan, The Dead, The Stones if you’re talking about rock all come before him. Those are the comparisons you can use because Springsteen isn’t folk, or jazz, or anything else really. I think there any many great musicians out there, but I don’t have to like all of them.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Dylan is a great songwriter
He’s a terrible singer and a passable musician, and The Dead only had two good albums then a lot of crap beloved by people that do too damn many drugs.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
I disagree.
Dylan is more than a passable musician. Just because you’re a terrible singer doesn’t mean you’re a horrible musician.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
oh c'mon
are you grading on a curve?
Dylan is passable at best as a musician.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
So we disagree.
Just because your taste in music differs from mine doesn’t mean I’m wrong. Let’s leave it at that.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I love Dylan
You’re setting up a strawman. Don’t jump to conclusions.
Just because I love Dylan doesn’t mean I overlook his mediocre musician skills.
Of course it’s all subjective, but I think general consesnus would support me.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
*consensus
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Exactly
I really like Dylan. He was a hell of a songwriter and his style suited him. That doesn’t make him a great musician. He was passable, but there are a ton of better singers, guitarists, and harmonica players.
Exactly
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
There are plenty of better guitarists/harmonica-ists/singers
I’m not denying that. But everyone has different standards. Would I say Mark Knopfler (Dire Straits lead guitarist) is better than Doc Watson? They’re both guitarists, but there’s no comparison.
I find it really hard to say one musician is better than another, unless of course the argument is between Beyonce and Mississippi John Hurt.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
You don't have to compare them to each other
It’s fairly evident if someone is an above or below average musician. Deciding who is better is an indefinite science, but knowing a great musician when you hear one is not that hard, as long as you have an understanding of what entails being a musician.
You can be a great songwriter
and a passable musician.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Far better than passable ...
Check this performance of “”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUpfMFOoYpA&feature=related" target="new">Only a Pawn in Their Game". Tell me a “passable” musician can make those chord changes.
What looks large from a distance, close up ain't never that big.
by mystery tramp on Feb 7, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
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What looks large from a distance, close up ain't never that big.
by mystery tramp on Feb 7, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
He’s a terrible singer and a passable musician,
I agree with passabble musician. Dylan has always hired blue chip talent around since his days with the band. But I like his voice. Timbre wise, sure you need to get his to used to voice. But singing wise in terms of his sense of phasing and pacing, he’s awesome. Sub Homesick Blues is the most obvious example.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
"great musician"
The description of someone as a “great musician” (or not) is not an overriding, catch-all term encompassing many talents. It’s simply about whether someone is really good at playing music and/or singing it (pitch and expression, not vocal quality).
Bruce is great at neither of these things.
STEP!!!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Uhm...
So…you have to sing to be a great musician? If they were alive, I wonder what Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart would have to say about that ;)
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
He stated and/or
again, skill as a musician has nothing to do with skill as a performer or as a writer. Chopin was one of the must technically skilled writers of all time, but he couldn’t even play alot of his own stuff (granted he was extremely ill most of his life, but still…). There is a large difference between a great musician and a great act. They are not always one in the same.
i didn't say that
as daveh has expressed above this. that’s what and/or means.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
OK I misread that part.
But I still think the argument is flawed. Julie Andrews had a beautiful voice but I wouldn’t consider her a musician just because she could sing.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
that's not my argument.
re-read. i just said it’s not about vocal quality. i said it’s about pitch and expression. i’m not saying someone is a musician “just because they can sing”.
the world is filled with singers who have fabulous voices but little musicianship, and singers who have terrific musicianship but not great pipes. in the latter category I would place Amy Ray of the Indigo Girls: Amazing musician, not a great vocal quality (although it is distinctive).
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I'd actually like to hear who you DO think is a great musician.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Dave Lombardo
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
He really is incredible
So fast and so clean
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Fastest two feet in metal
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Hellhammer kicks some ass, too
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Fast? Who gives a fuck!
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Some of us do.
Not everyone listens to Phish and wants to mellow. Some of us like loud, fast and dangerous. That’s the way I roll. :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Fast for the sake of fast though. Not my cup of tea.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
It's not for everyone.
But it sure as hell is for me. :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I agree with duck
Unsurprsingly.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
And if you want fast for the sake of fast...
I give you Dragonforce.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
party on garth.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
The shot of the singer....
drinking coffee against a green screen and giving a “I’ll be right here when you guys get done” look during the guitar solos is priceless, though.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I’d actually like to hear who you DO think is a great musician.
This just me, but for own personal tastes, I actually care more about who’s a better songwriter than a “great musician”.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
The world is full of great musicians
and most of them are unknown, anonymous technicians who do their thing, make their contribution, collect their paycheck and go home. To have a distinctive voice or an ability to craft or convey a message in a way that is both musical and meaningful to listeners is a very different talent than musicianship per se, and they rarely overlap. So what? Springsteen is a passable guitarist, no more, and if he were relying on his guitar skills, he’d be playing in a garage band, or weekends in a Jersey Shore bar, and struggling to survive on whatever day job he could land. So what? Dylan happens to be underrated as a musician, but that is largely because he chooses not to emphasize that side, because it would be a distraction from what he really does, and because he can always hire people who can play rings around him. So what? They can’t do what he does, either. As for singing, Dylan certainly changed the rules of pop for a long time. (Not that he was first: listen to Elmore James, then listen to Dylan on Nashville Skyline, and tell me who had the prettier voice.) In the post-Dylan era, singing became more about communicating than about decorating. That era is over, though, as we now live in the American Idol era of gorgeous technique in the cause of empty, soulless performance. Whatever. I’ll still take the “bad” voice that understands and conveys the song honestly over the “good” one that doesn’t. someone once described the voice of Patty Griffin (an amazing songwriter and performer) as “torn in all the right places.” I like that.
+1
Thank you for articulating everything I wanted to say.
And actually Dylan used to have a decent voice before he smoked it away. Same for Tom Waits. Still, they’re both great.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
you say this as though someone said, "all bad musicians aren't worth our time"
…or somesuch.
nobody said that. nobody said they preferred good musicians only.
in fact, many folks said just the opposite.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
nobody said they preferred good musicians only.
in fact, many folks said just the opposite.
Nobody said they preferred only good musicians but after taking a quick glance, I don’t think anyone said they prefer good songwriters over good musicians. But I might have missed someone.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I wasn't arguing with anyone
Just trying to articulate a distinction that I thought might have been getting lost. Maybe I overplayed it.
or maybe i'm just being overly sensitive
WHY CAN’T WE BE FRIENDS
WHY CAN’T WE BE FRIENDS
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
And Patty Griffin is amazing. I had the fortunate pleasure of her attending her 2002 Ryman show which was eventually released as A Kiss in Time. One of my favorite shows of all time.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
if i could summarize my argument
musicianship is about how well you can express music: how well you play an instrument (be it a musical instrument or your own voice), interpret the written score/composition or improvise, and how you pour your own feelings into that expression.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Ok.
So two of my favorite musicians are the late Elliott Smith and Pete Yorn. I think they encompass those traits. I’d like to read your reply. What do YOU think of these two? (if you’ve heard of them)
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
i know nothing about either,
but would be happy to check them out.
my list would be a looooong list, over many different disciplines, as i imagine yours would be as well. it’s kind of heard to just star reeling off names, but i guess
both the Indigo Girls, since I brought them up
Mark Knopfler, since you brought him up
Billy Joel
Miles Davis
Ben Folds
Blossom Dearie
Carlos Santana
Joni Mitchell
Hilarie Burhans
I’m just free associating here.
I didn’t give an example of someone with a great voice who I think is not a great musician, but Mariah Carey would probably fit the bill, as might Julie Andrews (although I don’t know a lot of her later work) or most of the idiots I see on American Idol.
and just to give you an idea of where I’m at: Stephen Sondheim, whom I idolize, does not make my list. He is the 20th century’s greatest muscial theater composer and lyricist. But he is not a good musician.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
also, disappearing now
but happy to carry the discussion further later if it’s still going on.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I like most of the people you listed.
Jonie Mitchell, Ben Folds, and Billy Joel especially.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Ben Folds
I am a big Folds fan, and he is a great example of someone who does not have a technically great voice (though I really enjoy it) but is an amazing musician. Writing, phrasing, playing, and just generally understanding music all lend itself to this. I think Ben really sums up the difference between a talented instrumentalist or singer and a talented musician.
Know 'em, love 'em
I was disappointed with Yorn when he opened for Crowded House in NY in 2008, but I think a lot of that had to do with the mixing, which was plum awful. But his songs are excellent. Smith was wonderful, but too f__ed up for this world.
Elliott Smith went way too early.
He was great, and not even in his prime. Pete Yorn is great because he’s constantly maturing. You don’t see that with too many artists nowadays.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I haven’t been impressed with Pete Yorn lately. His last album wasn’t all that great but I haven’t heard his duet album with ScarJo. But that fact that he would do a duet album with ScarJo worries me.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I think he's an awful musician
because he’s an awful musician. Trust me, it has nothing to do with my taste in music. I generally like music from his genre. He’s just bad.
I think you are mistaking being a great act for being a great musician. As stoked pointed out, Dylan is known for his songwriting. And again, i’ll never say someone shouldn’t listen to something just beause the artist is a bad musician. That would severly limit the pool of what you could listen to. Some stuff is enjoyable regardless of how skilled the artist is at their craft. Just don’t mistake an entertaining artist for a musically talented one.
Bruce is fine
but certainly not worth the hype.
For every “Tunnel of Love” (brilliant), there’s a “Rosalita” (yuk)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
jump a little higher!
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Sounds like the exact same reasons...
my daughter listens to Metallica… :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
and why
my cat listens to Stephen Sondheim. ;)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
and why I listen to Neil Diamond
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
But at least
Metallica is made up of insanely good musicians. I stopped listening to Metallica back in high school, but every once in a while I hear an old song and i’m reminded how damn good they were. I’m not into their music so much anymore, but I still recognize how great they are (were?) at it.
Bruce is just schlock rock.
Lars Ulrich is NOT insanely good.
He’s a barely passable drummer.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Very true
Check out the videos from Donnington a couple years ago where he couldn’t play and Dave Lombardo and Joey Jordison filled in, so, so much better.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
I bought that set off livemetallica.com
Joey and Dave put him to shame. Hell, his drum tech does on Face to Black….
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Here's the link
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Lars WAS a very good drummer at one point
Kirk Hamett was a killer guitarist, and the phrasings they created as a group were incredible at times.
He was an okay drummer
But Dave Lombardo was always the best of the thrash era guys
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Of this there can be no doubt.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
At what point?
There were always around a half dozen guys in metal better than Lars. Look, I LOVE Metallica, but Lars is a much better promoter of the band and businessman (and I’ll even argue songwriter) than drummer.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Not to beat it to death...
but I’d say “very good” is being generous.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I'll defer to your expertise
as I havent really listened to them in years, and I only really thought he was very good back when I listened to them (which was when I was 13-16 mainly).
Cliff, James and Kirk are top notch
and Lars is serviceable. But he pales in comparison in musical talent to the other 3 of the first 3 albums.
Jason never really got a chance to show what he could do, and Robert may be the best technical bass player they’ve had. Dude is amazing, but again, doesn’t get to show it much within the restraints of Metallica.
I can see why a bass player would want to leave that band the way Jason did.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
And if you likes the old stuff....
You’ll love the last CD, Death Magnetic. All their videos are here:
http://www.metallica.com/Media/Video/misc_video.asp?id=448
Try “All Nightmare Long” first.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I listen to more than just rock.
Doc Watson is brilliant, as is Leo Kotke. John Prine and Steve Goodman are great. Even country like Willie Nelson or Johnny Cash.
Thing is, I started liking them because my dad loves them. I could stop liking them at any time, of course, but part of it is sentimental.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Danny: You mean they ate each other up? Jack: well, it WAS an open thread.
Doing cannibalism right:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFDgSKbapzY&feature=related
Royals: The Poor Man’s Orioles. (Pirates: The Poor League’s Orioles)
Remember that Royals fan who used to show up here? Nice guy. In fact, he was such a good sport that when we actually swept a 3-gamer from them, he congratulated us like we’d actually done something to deserve it.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
re: that springsteen thread
Avenged Sevenfold, duck, seriously? They’re awful.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
I LOVE "Beast and the Harlot" and "Bat Country"
I’ll admit, “Seize the Day” is dreck of the worst order, but I like a LOT of the “City of Evil” CD. No apologies.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Still terrible
and their cover of “Walk” is among the worst things I’ve ever heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub0Z-XPmYCg
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Not denying it
But they do have a few good songs.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I guess
The guitarist in my old band was an a7x superfan, so we were subjected to them far too much in the van….of course, this is the point where I thank God for noise-cancelling headphones and mp3 players.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Overexposure will do that.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
NICE
SC gives Deadwood a shout-out in the Bedard thread.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
this just in...
alexander ovechkin is the king.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
Agreed.
they better beat Pittsburgh or I will be very, very upset.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
yeah, well...
being a long suffering skins fan, o’s fan and caps observer i am used to disappointment, but the vic would be sweet.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
4-4! HAT TRICK OVIE!
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
YES! THAT WAS AMAZING!!!!!!
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
i wouldn't get so excited
The president’s cup winner hasn’t won the cup in several years.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
my condolences go out to you
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
I sure hope to see a Devils-Caps conference final
As if it wouldn’t have been fun enough watching Ovechkin vs. Brodeur, we would now get to see two of the best LWers in the game face off. I’d pay to see that series.
He's a great act, but Ovechkin is a terrible musician.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Feb 7, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
dude...just cuz he cant sing doesnt make him bad
i follow ovechkin’s tune when he pulls off stuff like that.
ha ha
rec’d
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
and...
the heels are terrible this year. it would be nice to see the terps put ’em away early.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
we win, we get top 25
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Eh, maybe
Still a lot of teams ahead of us to overtake. Now win the next two against Virginia and @Duke, and we’ll definitely be ranked.
we got a couple votes last week
so why not?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Because theres a lot of other teams that got at least a couple of votes too
Butler and Northern Iowa both had 2 wins this week, so they arent dropping out. Ole Miss and Georgia Tech probably wont be penalized too much for losing at Kentucky and at Duke, though Ole Miss only has to fall one slot to be out of the rankings. Pitt is probably the most likely to fall entirely out of the rankings.
So theres maybe 1 or 2 open slots in the rankings this week, and theres 16 teams currently that received more votes than Maryland. A win today will probably put them right on the edge of the rankings, but i dont see beating UNC at home as being enough to push them all the way in.
Nice research
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone interested in prop bets for fun?
I’ve got a some from various sources
o/u 5 windmills by the who guitarist
o/u 3.5 screenshots of kardashian
o/u 3.5 screenshots of anyone in the manning family
o/u 2.5 times they show manning family home video.
o/u 3 mentions of caldwell pulling starters
o/u 2 mentions of favre pick
o/u 1.5 mentions of hurricane katrina
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 4:08 PM EST reply actions
Just thought of a couple more
o/u 3.5 mentions of Aints
o/u 1.5 mentions that archie was a saint, and his son is playing againts his former team
o/u .5 times they show the owner celebrate the fg against the bucs
I colud go on for a while, but I’ll stop here.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Let's see...
Windmills? Under. Pete’s an old man now.
Kardashian? I’ll go under, because none have a CBS show.
Manning? Over – easiest bet on your board.
Caldwell/starters comment – under
Favre? Under
Katrina? WAY over.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
who- u
kardashian- o
manning- o
home video- u
starters- o
farve-o
cane- o
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 7, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
jeebus
o/u 5 windmills by the who guitarist
I assume by “the Who guitarist”, you mean rock legend and phenomenal musician Pete Townshend?
I will take the over. In fact
windmills: over
kardashian: under
manning family: over
manning home video: under
caldwell starters: tough call, but i’ll go with over
favre pick: even (i think there will be exactly 2 mentions)
katrina: waaaay over
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
RE: Springsteen
I was going to post something but I saw I posted a long defense of him in the last thread. My position still stands. He rules all, although while I think his latest stuff is good (Magic and Working on a Dream), I’m not particularly ga ga about it like the critics.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
When you have been as prolific as he has for that long a time
it is hard to stay relevant or fresh. The fact that he makes a credible show of it is pretty remarkable, when he could just be milking his back catalog at nostalgia shows for years to come, like the Eagles and the Who.
Yes, yes, I agree
After all, I did say that I thought his new material was good.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
I love The Eagles.
And not only because their greatest hits album sold the most copies of all time, and the mark wasn’t surpassed Michael Jackson.
I’m sorry that the guy died, but his music really wasn’t anything special.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Michael Jackson's music wasn't anything special?
oh my.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Yes, I said it.
It’s pop. I don’t like pop. Therefore, I think his music has no substance and there’s nothing amazing about it. He proclaimed himself “The King of Pop.” I don’t agree.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
geez
Saying his music isn’t anything special because you don’t like pop is completely ridiculous. Michael Jackson was an amazing talent.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
No, it's not.
I don’t like his music. If it’s so special I would probably like it. I prefer musicians who can play their own instruments, not sing to record studio beats.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Yes, true.
My opinion: he’s nothing special. I can see why people like him—his songs are catchy…but I don’t like him.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
a personal opinion that totally discounts the impact Michael Jackson had on music.
There’s a giant difference between “I don’t like it” and “it’s nothing special.” But I’m not gonna argue it, it’s not worth it.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
We don't need to argue.
Let’s be friends. I feel like I’ve made a lot of enemies here in a very short period of time.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Is that what they call them now?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I don’t like MJ’s music but I’ll recognize his cultural and historical significance. I think that’s what Stacey’s getting at. If you won’t recognize the later, then you’re being purposely ignorant.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
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