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O's sign LHP Will Startup to a minor league contract
No, I don't know who he is either. -Stacey
That's what Roch speculates among other pre-Spring Training observations. -Stacey
My treatment of Bedard has been unfair | Seattle Times Newspaper
One of the Seattle writers that called Bedard a big baby acknowledges the fact that he was pitching hurt and is now all, "my bad." -Stacey
David Stockstill on Joel Guzman - MASNsports.com
"The 6'5", 245-pound, right-handed hitter batted .281-12-57 in 108 games at Double-A Harrisburg last summer and hit just .121 in 12 games at Triple-A Syracuse with the Nationals organization. 'He's got a lot of power and athleticism and plays multiple positions. We look for him to try and make our Triple-A club,' O's Director of Player Development, David Stockstill said." -duck
AL East Sleepers: Baltimore Orioles | Fire Brand of the American League
So a Boston Red Sox blog says we're a sleeper. Yeah, that's right, the O's will keep you up at night in 2010, Pink Hat Nation! -duck
Steve Melewski ponders the workload that will be put upon Matt Wieters in 2010. -Stacey
Check That — Check Swings Are Back in MLB 2K10 - Kotaku
"A mini-foofaraw stirred up after MLB 2K10 previews revealed the game had no check-swing mechanic. 2K Sports felt an improved batting eye and new "defensive swings" eliminated their need. But they've backtracked, and said check swings will be patched in." I gotta link to any mildly baseball-related story that uses the word "foofaraw". It's in my contract. -duck
Play "MLB 2K10" to get rich! - Page 2 - ESPN
Not that I'm on 2K Sports' payroll, but this is interesting. If you pitch a perfect game on MLB2K10, you could win a million bucks. Really. -duck
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Cabrera and Gibbons Projections (2006), Hank Bauer: 1922-2007 (2007), Bedard finally dumps on the Os.... (2008), and A-Roid non apologizes (2009).
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 8:52 AM EST reply actions
NY Post writers are delusional
I didn’t link to it above, but this is the kind of stuff that makes baseball fans hate New York:
Jeter, who with 2,747 hits has an outside chance at 4,000, will be looking for multiple years.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/yankees/cashman_no_new_pacts_for_big_three_wX8jpc0bmsEhjsc28BTAiI#ixzz0f30XK6oQ
So, it took him until age 36 to get to 2,700, but he has a chance at 4,000? Really? At age, what, 55?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
That's f-ing absurd.
Then again, the New York Post doesn’t exactly pride it’s self on good journalism.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
That’s a cool name.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Roch thinks we we'll trade Wiggy
We will trade Wiggy, he’s can play basically everything with a position # greater 2, he’s got above-average power, there’s got to be a bunch of teams that could use that.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 AM EST reply actions
Why would anyone trade for Wigginton?
when they can just sign Hank Blalock for less money?
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I don't think
you should really use the word “super” and “defensive” in the same Ty Wigginton-related sentence.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
by Andrew_G on Feb 9, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Feb 9, 2010 10:36 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I thought Manning was better than this...
I know Belichick did something similar after the Giants beat the Patriots, but I didn’t expect this from Peyton Manning.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
the link didn't work
ok for some reason it’s not working. The story is on the front of page of Yahoo. “Peyton Manning didn’t shake hands…”
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
he said he didn't want to get in the way of the saints celebration
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
That's the worst excuse I've ever heard.
You congratulate a team. He’ll get more chances. It’s not like he played a bad game except for that last minute interception.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
yeah, i'm starting to agree with you
I clicked through to the MSN/FOX article cited in the yahoo one (here):
He sounded like someone who felt Indianapolis lost this game more than New Orleans won it….When asked what New Orleans did to disrupt Indianapolis’ offensive rhythm, Manning said, "I think I’d have a hard time saying that … We stopped ourselves for the most part."
What a douche. NO kept Manning off the field to the point where he went 70 minutes between completed passes. Give them some credit: they were clearly the better team on Sunday.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Yeah
I still maintain I expected much better from Manning. He seems like a classy guy, but this is just unacceptable.
To be honest, when Belichick did it, I wasn’t that surprised. But this time I am pretty baffled, and pretty angry too.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
He takes a check from Jim IRSAY
I have a hard time calling anyone classy who’s paid by an Irsay.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I respect Belichick more
At least he doesn’t bother lying about it when he walks off the field.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
strangely enough
i first link on the broken link is an SBN blog.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
the comma and last 6 digits got cut off above....
here’s the link.
I think the writer makes the case for this not being a snub. If it was anything other than the FINAL game of the season, I’d find it irritating (usually there are handshakes and losers say, “go take it to [other team] next week”. But with the Super Bowl, there is no next week, and for the losers, it’s the deepest cut of the season.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
or to put it another way,
did caldwell run over and shake payton’s hand?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Yeah
I don’t really have any issues with this. Why would he want to walk through people dumping garorade on each other and crying tears of joy and hugging their wives and children to shake some dude’s hands after he just lost the most important game of his life?
I don't care either.
But then again, I’m a pretty sore loser myself.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Who cares
The saints weren’t in any rush to shake his hand and I doubt they give a damn that he didn’t. Give the man a break, he just lost one of the biggest games of his life, who the hell wants to shake hands after that. Too much is made of things like this.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Feb 9, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
No, it matters.
Actually it really, really matters in the all important area of sports lore. This is the kinda shit sportswriters use to add color to the game. It’s the stuff of legend. The human element. What takes it beyond just the numbers.
Peyton Manning has been hyped up as a superhero, nice guy athlete for years now. He gets the top endorsements. The adulation of sportswriters and tv press across the country. Millions of fans singing his praises.
But now he’s fucked that up. Now you can argue that all press stuff is a bunch of bullshit anyhow, and sure, in a lot of ways you’re right. But that doesn’t matter. The legend is what matters.
by Jonny Pops on Feb 9, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh god spare me
because the guy didn’t run through a screaming crowd of celebration to shake some guys hand who doesn’t care if he shakes his hand or not, Peyton Manning is no longer a “good guy”??? That’s one of the most absurd things I’ve ever heard of. This is not a fuck up. This is not him being a bad guy. This is him being human. Losing a huge game is fucking awful and this isn’t high school where you have to line up and shake hands. His legend is just find.
The word you're looking for is fine, not find...
The Super Bowl is the largest sporting event of the year in this country. If there is one time you don’t want to make a mistake on national television, the Super Bowl is it, because everyone is watching and everyone is talking about it. Just ask Janet Jackson.
Will this ruin Manning’s image for good? I highly doubt it. But it is a blow to the image. A very public blow to someone who is already overexposed by most measures, and that a lot of people already find annoying as a result. As long as Manning is able to keep the nice guy act up in the future, he should be okay. But this will be something people talk about down the line and probably in the same manner as DCO’sFan above: “I expected more out of him” that sorta thing. But if Manning makes another mistake like this: an overly cocky public statement, maybe not congratulating some team in the future, then this will become even bigger and people will look on it as a pattern of behavior. I’m sure the NFL marketing people have had a very serious talk with Manning and his people already.
seriously?
This seems like such a non-issue to me. Mountains out of molehills.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
This is America
Home of the mountain out of the molehill.
See: Palin, Sarah, public utterances
Janet Jackson wardrobe malfunction
Jon & Kate Gosselin divorce
the list goes on and on….
What was confusing about that?
Your point about Manning is that this is a blow to his “good guy” image. Then you used a bunch of examples of people who had no good reputation to take a hit against.
Janet Jackson
and Sarah Palin have no reputations to take a hit against? That’s just silly, regardless of what you think of either of them
(I’ll give you the Gosselins)
Correct.
One is an entertainer who’s been flaunting sex for most of her career and comes from a totally insane family. The other is a politician who at the time had an extremely short track record filled with embarrassing flip-flops (bridge to nowhere), corruption (directing public contracts to firms in exchange for free work on her house), and contradictions (railing against pork while requesting it left and right). What upstanding reputation did they have?
eh...i wouldnt go too far with palin
since your description correctly describes, you know, every politician. i’ll agree with jackson tho. she was loony before that happened.
Don't get me started with Sarah Palin
Please, please don’t. She’s not every politician. She’s a whackjob who has no business being on the national stage. The rest of the country besides very conservative Republicans thinks she’s an ignorant fool who would destroy this country if she was president.
She’s a big part of the reason McCain didn’t get elected. Do you know how close Obama and McCain were in the polls before Sarah Palin? Look it up. That should do it for you.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Although
to be fair I think the economy tanking had as much to do with it as Palin did, but certainly moderates find her pretty terrifying. I find her mostly entertaining.
I find her sick.
Every time hate spews out of her ignorant mouth I want to throw up.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Jon Stewart?
Hardly.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
arent you 15?
but yes, thank you. i’m well aware of how close obama and mccain were in the polls before sarah palin. that really doesnt mean too much considering how far out from the election that was. i also dont think shes a big part of the reason that mccain didnt get elected. lets face it, mccain wasnt getting elected from day 1 of his campaign. she just helped seal that. (side note: she actually did pretty damn good in her debate against biden. actually, thats really not saying much for biden. he’s an idiot too.)
Yes I am 15.
And I don’t think that I will ever respect Sarah Palin for anything. She did “well” in the debate because she’s a good speaker who spews nonsense. She didn’t say anything of substance in that debate. I watched it.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
well i never said anything about respecting her
and biden rivaled her well in the bullshit spewing. i watched it.
I said something about respecting her, not you.
To you, maybe he did. The woman has no substance, and she’s one the most sickeningly ignorant women I have ever seen/heard. You seem smart, but I can’t believe you can stand up for someone like her.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Way to go out on a limb there
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
well...maybe i'm reading too much into that
but i was getting the vibe that some people seem to believe biden is less ignorant.
Oh he's dramatically less ignorant.
He may be almost as much of a goof, but he doesn’t spout absolute lies.
You stood up for her earlier.
“since your description correctly describes, you know, every politician.”
That sounds to me like you’re standing up for her.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
that was in response...
…to whether or nor she had a reputation to defend. not the same thing. but i’ll let twisted fight his own battles.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Fair enough.
But I’m inclined to ask the direct question: do you like Sarah Palin?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Can you ask it at the bottom of the thread?
Because of a lot of us aren’t going to be able to follow the conversation without indentations, and I’ve plum ran out on my screen. Everything at this level is one column of responses.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
nope
not even a little bit. didnt change my views on mccain tho since, you know, shes wasnt running for president.
No, just WITH a 72 year old cancer survivor....
:)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
i respect him
especially as a cancer survivor. not fun at all.
but seriously, we’ve had a fair number of poor VPs in our history. a g**-awful VP candidate isn’t going to stop me from voting for a president.
Except that when his wife was dying
he had an affair with Cindy McCain…
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
True, but also irrelevant to the discussion
I bear NO love for McCain, but that’s not what I was getting at.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Reply to twistedlogic
about respect.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
duck's reply works tho
i respect him for his service to this country. and i’ll always have some soft spot for cancer survivors.
oh I never said he wasn't a patriot.
But I’m saying there are a lot things he did that were pretty sick.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
About the same actually.
Except at least McCain didn’t father a child while they were married…as far as I know…
Both dying wives, both cheating, I don’t see what’s so much worse about Edwards.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
He was actually quite respectful
in his speech after he conceded. It was the people who were booing that irked me.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
My point is...
a lot of people thought she basically was running for president, given McCain’s age and health history. It’s a lot easier to ignore Biden when the top guy is a 46 year old rec basketball player.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
actually thats a lie
if somehow i had future-vision and knew abe lincoln was going to get assassinated and we’d have andrew johnson then maybe. but we didnt actually vote for Pres-VP combos at that point in history.
Not a lie
Maybe not a view you held, but it was a concern. Go back and look at the polling data.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
i don't think he's standing up for her
you make your points well, but you do have a tendency to read things into other people’s arguments that they don’t actually say
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
let's not forget her writing notes on her HANDS!
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, dude? McCain was ahead as late as Sept. 14
http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/president/whos-ahead/polling/index.html
And her being 15 isn’t really relevant to this discussion. Not that she needs me to back her up,. but just sayin’.
Now, the economy tanking sealed McCain’s fate. I do disagree that Palin was the main cause of his failure. But she was a significant factor, no doubt.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
i disagree
i know that he was ahead, but i never believed (maybe i’m pessimistic) that he ever had a chance. i guess thats why i hate polls. hmm…i also hate baseball projections. coincidence? I THINK NOT!!
Janet Jackson
had a big enough reputation to play at the Super Bowl Halftime Show. There are only a handful of entertainers on earth who are given that big of a gig.
I feel weird defending Sarah Palin, but to many people she has the reputation of an honest, hardworking, salt of the earth politician. Not me, not by a long shot. But she’s unquestionably very popular with some folks who go to great lengths to defend her.
Her reputation
is and was as a poppy sex pot! If anything it was consistent with it.
The people with whom she has that reputation are simpletons. The people who had that view of her were not swayed by any of her very public miscues.
remember that jackson was playing with justin timberlake
that combo always makes me wonder exactly what those ppl had in mind for a halftime show.
And just why did Justin skate on that whole deal?
I always thought he walked away a little too unscathed from that debacle for my liking. Janet’s wardrobe didn’t malfunction by itself…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
It was obviously planned
That’s the part I couldn’t believe the media missed. That obviously was no accident – her top was constructed to do that.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I think they did plan it.
When I told my dad The Who was playing he says, “Why are all the halftime show performers middle-aged men now? Oh. Wait. I know.”
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I knew I was missing something
Being male doesn’t hurt, either, I guess.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
These stories only gain attraction if the general public cares….
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
well, yeah, just want to point out that you contribute to that… nothing wrong with that, whatever news float your boat.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
me?
my boat?
you seem to have a hard time distinguishing my take on public relations with my own personal views.
Well, given what I’ve read above, you approve of making a big story out of Payton not shaking hands. To you, this is a big deal. Thus, it is your boat to use my sloppy metaphor. I’m not sure what’s your view on “public relations” (not sure that it’s relevant given what we’re discussing), but you seem to be advocating we should make a “mountain out of molehill” like just like Jon and Kate and wardrobe gate. And just like these incidents, they only gain traction if people care. I’m not sure why you referenced these events. All of them are pretty “gossipy” stuff (IMO). But Stacey said, “This seems like such a non-issue to me. Mountains out of molehills.” and you responded with, " This is America. Home of the mountain out of the molehill. See: Palin, Sarah, public utterances, etc." thus making a connection between your cause (Peyton) and these issues and suggesting “trivial” matters can be into a huge issues. So if you don’t think Peyton gate is a trivial issue, then I’m not why you’re referencing gossipy stuff.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Maybe you don't
but you did an awful job of explaining it the first time. Birdman is right – it’s pretty much impossible to read what you’ve written without coming away thinking that you believe that this is and should be a big story.
No.
It’s not. You’re just trying to recoil from my dead on criticisms of your reading comprehension skills. Nice try though.
Mine and Birdman's reading comprehension skills apparently.
Weird how multiple people can read what you write and both come away with the same conclusion that’s apparently incorrect.
hahaha
You sure got me on the fine/find! Schooled!
I’m surprised that somebody who’s always talking about cutting through the bullshit is getting sucked into such a suckers’ story. This is the reason people like Eddie Murray and Erik Bedard hate the media.
IT WAS NOT A MISTAKE. This is not even remotely related to the Janet Jackson incident. This is a manufactured story for people who are easily convinced that a non-story is a story. This is a story for people who like reading US Weekly. It is only a “blow to his image” among simpletons.
You can disagree with someone
without personally attacking them. It’s not that hard. It’s called being nice. Are you capable of that?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I don't think I was personally attacking you or anybody else.
Maybe simpletons in general and I guess if you’re reading too much into that story maybe you could take offense, so sorry about that. But really I don’t think anybody was getting insulted personally there.
I'm just saying
That I’m not a simpleton. You’re seriously generalizing. I don’t read US Weekly. I don’t care about celebrities’ babies and I think we should leave them alone.
Again, when you disagree with someone, there are better ways to do it. Try reasoning without calling people names.
For the record, I’m not “easily convinced.” So you’re wrong about that, too. I’m very opinionated and I’ll stand by that opinion. You don’t know me very well, but you’re assuming anyway. The fact is, Peyton Manning prides himself in being the perfect football player. Part of sports is being sportsmanlike. To you, it may not be a huge part of sports, but I think it is. I know this isn’t high school, where we have to congratulate a team in basketball when they cheated, fouled you like crazy, hired refs who know the players by name and joke around with them…this is my own experience, by the way. Yes, I felt bad having to congratulate them, but that fact is, the Saints didn’t cheat, they played better than the Colts, and if you read zknower’s quote from Manning above, you’ll see that he’s full of crap.
It’s part of the game, and if Manning can’t respect that, fine, but I still think he’s wrong. That’s all I’m saying. And you think because I think he’s wrong in this instance that I’m a simpleton? That’s a little harsh if you ask me.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Oh sheesh
Who exactly did I call a name? You? Jpops? No. If that comment got your all upset I said I was sorry, but that really seems pretty tame to me considering the things I’ve seen said on this board.
I think that you’re getting a little caught up in his media image versus who he is as a person. The media has built him up to be this person who “prides himself in being the perfect football player.” I’ve never once heard him say anything even close to that. The truth is we don’t know much of anything about what these guys are like in reality except for what they let us know. I think it’s really risky to make judgments of people based on single instances like this where you really have no clue about what his motivation was.
And also I think you’re drastically overestimating the importance of shaking hands after the game. Nobody on the field cares about that. It’s a sportsmanship that’s been created for the fans and media. The Saints could not care less that Peyton manning didn’t come shake their hands. You’re right it’s not really close to high school sports where they make you shake hands like that. If anything not shaking their hands is more “real” since you know nobody on the losing team is actually congratulating the guys on the winning team – they are only doing it because they feel like they have to or it will look bad. It’s all an act.
If you have beef with what Peyton SAID that’s totally different, but getting all up in arms because he didn’t go shake their hands just seems silly to me.
If you think he’s wrong in this case that’s fine, but don’t act like it’s some character flaw that’s finally been exposed or that he’s no longer a “good guy.” It’s a single instance in a long career and really it’s just not that big of a deal.
Wake up...
America is filled with simpletons. People who love petty gossip, drama etc. Ever watch daytime TV? Ever watch the networks news for that matter at this point? People love their petty gossip. Makes them feel involved. Gives them “insider knowledge” in their minds.
This is not even remotely related to the Janet Jackson incident. This is a manufactured story for people who are easily convinced that a non-story is a story.
How is that unlike the Janet Jackson incident?
This is a story for people who like reading US Weekly.
US Weekly is a very successful magazine.
Personally, I don’t really care what Manning did. It seems somewhat unsportsmanlike, but it’s not the end of the world. But I am surprised he would do it. Seems like an uncharacteristic blunder from a guy who seems pretty together in terms of his career.
I'm wide awake
No I don’t watch daytime TV, but you can look at any political debate and know that America is filled with simpletons. So yes a ridiculous story like this might hurt his image among simpletons. Was that your argument? If so I guess you may be right, but my response would be who cares about what simpletons think?
It’s not at all like the Janet Jackson incident because she showed her tit on national television. That violates actual regulations. He didn’t shake somebody’s hand??? Who gives a shit. They are not even close.
The very fact that you are calling it a fuck up, a mistake, a blunder sure makes it seem like you care.
It was a fuck up
mistake and blunder, from a PR point of view. And given that Manning is one of the biggest stars in the NFL it matters to the league’s PR as well.
Don’t believe me? Take a look at the Kobe Bryant scandal and how well the NBA has been doing as a league since then. Kobe was a much bigger deal of course, but it’s a prime example of what really bad PR can do to a sport.
Ironically, the fact that you’re mixing up my own feelings with what I am clearly arguing on here, makes you seem a lot like the US Weekly readers you’re critcizing, primarily in your inability to view this objectively and what it means in the broader scheme of things. You’d rather personalize the discussion, which given how far this person (Manning) is from your own life is a fool’s errand.
From an absurdly
hypersensitive overreacting PR point of view.
Kobe Bryant was accused of rape!! You keep bringing up examples that are not even close to the same. For shtis sake he walked off a field. He wasn’t arrested. He didn’t violate and rules or laws. He walked off a field.
If your original point was that simple people are going to overreact to that then sure I’ve got no issue with that. But you keep comparing it to completely ridiculous things, which makes me think that YOU think it’s bigger than it is.
and Tiger Woods didn't technically violate laws or rules
unless you’re talking about ethics. I know this isn’t the same, but he makes a good point. Golf is suffering without the greatest player whoever played.
It’s the same thing. Tiger had this clean image and now it’s ruined. If you’re trying to maintain an image, this isn’t the right move.
If you read golf blogs, a lot of fans have forgiven Tiger and want him to come back and revive the game. The NFL isn’t going anywhere because Manning did something unsportsmanlike. I understand that much. But it still a mistake on his part.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Oh my god.
Now you’re comparing Manning to not shaking hands with a man having sex with 10 women other than his wife while she’s home with his babies? What are we talking about right now??
by O'sFan21 on Feb 9, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, I said it was different.
And, for the record, I don’t know how many women he was actually sleeping with, as far as I know only one women has actually given sufficient evidence. I’m not saying he’s right in any way…anyway, it’s beside the point.
I said his image has suffered. I’m comparing it to THAT. THE IMAGE. He made a PR mistake. How hard is that to understand? Of course (as far as I know) Peyton Manning didn’t cheat on his wife…is he even married? Anyway, it’s about his mistake.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
And that's the part that I think is absurd.
That we’re talking about these as PR mistakes in the same sentence. It’s totally ridiculous.
What part of...
“Kobe was a much bigger deal of course,” don’t you understand? This is what I’m talking about with your reading comprehension skills. It seems you get so caught up in argument that you start making up the other person’s positions in order to keep arguing.
How about this, from above:
“Personally, I don’t really care what Manning did. It seems somewhat unsportsmanlike, but it’s not the end of the world. But I am surprised he would do it. Seems like an uncharacteristic blunder from a guy who seems pretty together in terms of his career.”
Seems pretty straightforward to me. But if you want to try to construct some straw man in there to argue with some more, be my guest. Just leave me out of it though, okay?
You still brought it up in comparison!!!! Whether you qualify it or not you’re comparing it to the incident and that’s frankly absurd.
you're right
all comparisons ever made in this world from this point forward should be on exactly the same magnitude, which I imagine we’ll need to devise a number of new measurements in order to gauge properly. thank you for your contributions to human discourse. your life has served a purpose. you shall always be remembered.
We'll call it
“Public Relations Disaster Magnitude Above Replace Value”
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
by Andrew_G on Feb 9, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
ahahaha
best comment of th’ day
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Who said anything about
exactly the same magnitude? They should at least be in the same ballpark though.
I agree with JP
I couldn’t care less myself, but for someone with such a public, nuanced persona and who happens to be The Face of the NFL, it’s definitely a mistake to look like a poor sport during the biggest national event of the year. I doubt much of anything comes from it in the long run, but it’s at least a crack in his up-to-now perfect PR face.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I can can see the validity of viewing this as a PR fuck up as JP says. But he’s distracting from his argument by bringing up these gossipy story parallels. Those other incidents don’t parallel the Peyton incident given what he’s arguing.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
A better parallel incident would be something like the Ron Artest (?) going into the stands and fighting people.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
Um, how about LeBron doing the same thing in the Eastern Finals?
That seems to be a more apt comparison.
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/news/story?id=4392572
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
even better parallel example
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
different in the order of magnitude though
because nobody watches the NBA anymore and everyone watches the Super Bowl.
The Super Bowl is like a ritual in this country. It’s the grandest show around. The Eastern Conference Finals are…well…when were those on again?
There was a race on, so I missed it
No lie, NASCAR rain delays draw better than NBA playoff games.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
in fact
this past superbowl was the most watched television broadcast EVER. in history.
It just beat the M*A*S*H* series finale.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
the parallel
I was drawing is that minor stories can become big deals in the court of public opinion in this country. Seems like a pretty straightforward notion to me.
JP, you forgot
about his affinity for hitting on female college trainers.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
5 slots left for CC fantasy league.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions
Can't take the sky from me!
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC:
What’s playing on your iPod/phone/MP3 player right now, since the majority of us are snowed in.
Robert Plant, “Trouble Your Money” off “Shaken n’ Stirred”
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
On my iTunes
The Beatles. “Nowhere Man”
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Right now?
Nothing. Last thing I listened to was “Punky Reggae Party” and it remains in my head.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
well look at all of you guys snowed in! i still have class :(
side note…on my itunes
the frames: “revelate”
I'm not sure if I will actually teach before Valentine's Day.
We MAY get tomorrow in, but then snow comes again by noon. 4-6 inches.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
They're talking about 10-20 here.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
On top of the 24" you already have, right?
And I must say, a 15-year-old who can articulate political arguments clearly makes me feel better about the future of this country.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
29" actually.
And thank you. I try.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
damn you
my old hs is off until after presidents day. although i only have volleyball on tuesday/thursday so i dont have any class until 11am tomorrow :-)
Where are you?
Are in you in this area?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I went to camp there.
UVA Young Writer’s Workshop for high school students, hopefully I’ll go back this summer. I absolutely love Charlottesville. I wish I lived there.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Completely random...
“Ty Cobb” by Soundgarden just came on. The amount of cursing in that song is hilarious.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
msue- uprising
phoenix- lisztomania
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
portishead
dummy
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Does anyone think that Beltre moving to a hitter-friendly park
will hurt us?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Oh yes
I’ve been trying to figure out some pre-season picks and the Red Sox look completely terrifying on paper.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
But they don't play the games on paper
They play them in rectangular boxes in our living rooms.
Ah, back when Craig Kilborn was almost amusing….
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
When exactly was that?
I can’t say I remember that ever being the case.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Work with me here
He had his moments. Of course, I thought Dennis Miller was funny for a few years, too, until he turned into a complete whackjob.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Miller at his best
“And suppose I do lemming off a cliff? At least I’ll have the satisfaction of following my own nose instead of the ass of another lemming.”
Oh well, 9/11 caused smarter people than him (see: Hitchens, Christopher) to lose thier minds.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
Looks like we've got Ohman and dropped Gabino
per Deirkes
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
that doesn't bother me so much
and I’d guess that at this point Gabino passes through waivers, but I am bothered by the idea of having three or four left handed relievers in camp and then telling them whoever pitches the best gets the job. I mean, how many innings do relievers get in Spring Training? Like, 6? How can you really make a valid judgment on 6 innings?
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Raining again.
What’s with all this RAIN, dammit?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
seriously, it's like i'm back on the east coast, well, not really.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
At least you don't have to worry about what SPF to wear
just what galoshes go with your hat.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
RAINING??!?!
You’re complaining about RAIN?! We’re about to get another 10-20 inches of SNOW here. I’d much rather have rain than snow.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I think
that he was being sarcastic.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
this.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Oh.
Sarcasm is hard to get over the internet.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
admittedly, i tend to underplay mine a lot.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
You ARE a trained professional.....
And did you catch the last episode of Heroes? I really do think the episode you were on might have been the last decently written one of the series. I’m betting it gets Old Yeller’d sometime in May. Talk about going out with a whimper…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
i did not.
but i hear that it’s headed for the great episodic graveyard in the sky
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I'll defer to your judgment, but there seemed to be some real acting talent on that show.
Jack Coleman as HRG was outstanding, I thought. And I know he’s not always been the greatest human being, but Eric Roberts was great in his recurring role.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
there was awesome acting
it was the writing that went south. as is the case on many shows.
it’s why deadwood was, and mad men is, such good telelvision…. their creators refuse to hand over the laptop.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
and on this note,
i head to my spin class.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I think the writing in the Office has gone down.
I still love the show though.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
You’re complaining about RAIN?!
irony. think about it.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Federal law says I must post this...

ALSO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT1TVSTkAXg
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
nailed
this makes me no better than Alanis Morrissette (sp?)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
okay, i didn't even see the clip when i referenced alanis!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
this thread overall, LOl
welcome to “one week to spring training and we’re all ready to kill each other”
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
by zknower on Feb 9, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't say kill.
Maybe dismantle each other from our keyboards.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
i wonder what sarah palin has to say on this issue
i know obama would say that spring training is a remnant of the bush administration….
For duck,
do you like Sarah Palin?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Since you're 15, I'll answer this way.
No.
But the true answer is a bit more complicated…..redneck chicks in glasses get me everytime…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Define redneck.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Urban dictionary time!
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I looked
and there were a bunch of entries that were lists of things rednecks do/characteristics. It was really funny.
A lot said, “absence of sophistication.”
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Jeff Foxworth is the expert on this...
and he says you can be a redneck from anywhere. And having traveled this great land to some extent, I’d say he’s right.
If you think sushi is overpriced bait, you’re a redneck.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
haha.
My dad grew up in the Pine Barons. Basically, it was rednecks and Jewish chicken farmers. And they hated each other. A lot.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
The thought of a Jewish chicken farmer
fills my head with cognitive dissonance.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Oh?
Why is that?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Because I'm used to redneck ones
And the thought of someone with a yarmulke in a chicken house seems as likely to me as the thought of Junior Samples in a synagogue. Guess the world is what you’re used to.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Redneck chicken farmers!
C’mon we have indentations down here! Keep up! :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I'm not following.
Farming used to be a huge part of Jewish culture in America, especially on the East Coast. It’s mostly gone now. We’re all doctors and lawyers.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I lived around nothing but farms my entire life
And I’ve never met a Jewish farmer. Of course, until I went to Maryland, I’d met exactly 2 Jewish people in my life, one in 4th grade class and one in high school, so it’s not like I had a lot of exposure.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Jewish chicken farming died out in 60's
mostly. I think that was when the Jew clauses were made illegal in universities, so they could attend med school and law school etc. etc.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Don't think there was ever a large Jewish population
on my side of the bay, anyway. The Eastern Shore hasn’t always been a bastion of tolerance for most of its history, unfortunately.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
farming used to be a huge part of culture in america period
now we have doctors, lawyers, parking lot attendants, drug traffickers….etc etc
did i miss anything?
oh...and cant forget (for duck's benefit)
those who cant DO….teach!!
(and those who cant teach,….teach gym)
Gee, uh, thanks. I think.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Oh you're not Jewish.
Right. You wouldn’t really get the doctor/lawyer thing. It’s a running joke I suppose.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
So, basically, you're telling me (and twisted)
there’s absolutely no point in me renting “A Serious Man”, given my level of knowledge of all things Jewish? :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
You can rent it.
And if there’s anything you absolutely don’t understand (and think Jews might know what the hell they’re talking about), I’ll be happy to educate you. ;)
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I do have a resident expert...
one of my best teaching buddies is the tallest Jewish man I’ve ever met. Seems funny the only Jewish guy I know played center on a basketball team at a D-III college. What are the odds?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
That is odd.
My dad is 5"2. It’s actually really funny because when he stands next to my mom he’s so short—I mean, he looks shorter than he already is. And my mom is only 5"6…
I had a crush on this really tall guy at my synagogue but then he turned out to be gay…that’s a story for another day!
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
haha no i'm not
i wasnt joking about being jewish. i was more of making a comment about what our young ppl are doing these days.
Oh but I was making a joke about Jews.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Very true, sir.
I’m a rebel then, and proud of it :D
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I'm pretty sure...
Richard Lewis did it first…maybe Woody Allen…maybe Shelly Berman…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Can't you see?
Jews are all related in a certain way. We’re all politically incorrect. Big time.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Well, didn't want to make any stereotypes...
and I’m really bad at nuance, and don’t want to make a joke I think is funny but reads horribly and I spend the rest of the day typing “What I MEANT was….” . So I’ll let you handle the humor on this topic.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I thought Jews were contractually obligated to make fun of themselves.
Didn’t Jews invent “self-loathing”?
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe, maybe.
I’ll look it up in the bible.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Isn't it the Pine Barrens?
Or is this a different place than the one from the Sopranos episode? Love that episode…
Maybe, same thing.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
yes
spelling counts here at CC.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I'm so screwed...
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
you're screwed?
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
My typing is the worst of the bunch
Punctuation? I’m good. Grammar? Better than most. But spelling mistakes due to bad typing? I’m the king, baby, I’m the king.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Let's see.....
Do directions to your house include turn OFF the paved road?
Ever go to a family reunion to pick up chicks?
Ever had to climb up on an overpass with a can of spray paint to defend your sister’s honor?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Glad we could clear that up
And for the record, my wife wasn’t related to me prior to marriage, my sister’s never needed defending, and my road is paved, if not lined. So my redneckness is very much in doubt, I guess.
But I did buy my 13 year old a .22 rifle for her birthday this year and took her to see Metallica last year. That has to balance out the other two.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
13 is a little old for a redneck's first gun.
If she was 4 or 5, then it would apply.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
by Gregory O on Feb 9, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No
That makes you normal.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
I like sushi.
Does that make me elitist?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
With arugula, right?
No, it makes you a socialist, iirc.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
You mean the salad green I've never tasted?
(and had to look it up on google). Or do you mean rugelach? You know, the Jewish pastries?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
You missed it in 2008, I guess....
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=27978
Given the source, I’d say about 5% of it true, but it was quite the kerfuffle for a few days in 2008…
And promise me you will never read another article from Human Events again.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Oh. my. god.
Does this guy actually think he knows anything about women?
I can tell you this guy can’t be married.
And I will keep that promise, don’t worry.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
A liberal northeastern elitist.
You’ll probably go to one of those liberal northeastern elitist colleges too. Damn educated elitists!
Not yet.
Still in high school…
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Well yes,
that’s probably true. Except no New England. Too cold.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I'll go to Pennsylvania for that.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
We are all aware I'm talking
about the University of Pennsylvania right now right? Not like actual quakers.
everytime i think of quakers...i think of band of brothers
“when the bullets start flying, i dont know if i want a quaker doing my fighting for me”
“how do you know he’s a quaker?”
“he aint cat-lick”
+1
Band of Brothers is fantastic. I am looking forward to this year’s take on the Pacific.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
What the hell are you shooting at?
Fish?
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
I'll spare you
pics of the 44lb carp as I know this sort of things isn’t everyone’s bag.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
44 pounds?
holy carp!
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
excellent play on words
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Post 'em!
Rednecks of the World Unite!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Just for Duck!
And I have no idea why my buddy is standing like someone is chiseling a monument of him.
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Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
No, I meant.
You wanted me to start this at the bottom of the thread, and I was replying to twistedlogic.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Know what really pissed me off about her speech?
“How’s that hopey changey thing workin’ for ya?”
Oh, fuck you, you arrogant, ignorant, petulant bitch. At least Obama didn’t resign the minute the job turned into something remotely resembling real work.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 9, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this x 1000
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I haven't met you.
But I think I love you. You’re right.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I'm glad you can quote Shakespeare.
I’m sure Sarah Palin couldn’t.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
It could be like...
Mentor love, or…just bffs. (If you don’t speak teenager—Best Friends Forever)
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Yes, I'm familiar with the language
Thanks to my sister’s kids.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
haha
Oh, fuck you, you arrogant, ignorant, petulant bitch.
I would have used a word that starts with C and ends with T and is sometimes substituted with “see you next tuesday”, but to each his own.
She is a vile one…
For good reason.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Way I see it
She quits a job with real responsibility to “write” books & squawk on Faux News, where there are absolutely no consequences for being wrong.
And then she has the nerve to insult those who voted for the other side. Not Obama, not Congressional Ds, not yammerheads for the other side (Olbermann, Maddow, etc.), but the VOTERS. That’s what set me off.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
she might be onto something there tho
i love going onto facebook and seeing the stati “why doesnt obama just shut down fox news” or in your case “faux news.” why, because they have a dissenting opinion? save it.
Those are not even close to the same thing.
Suggesting that the government should limit a networks ability to say what it wants and mocking the fact that they call themselves “news” when they are ridiculously biased opinion are really clearly different. One is absurd and the other is perfectly valid.
sounds like a bunch of your facebook friends are really stupid people
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
National Review is a dissenting opinion
Fox News is a propaganda machine.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
WaPo is a little too conservative for my liking
They were Bush’s lapdogs during the run-up to the Iraqi War. And before you say NY Times, I say Judith Miller.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I see what you did there. :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
NYT & WaPo
On culture war stuff they’re fairly liberal.
On economics they’re middle of the road. The company line is “Let’s not try anything too radical, no matter how FUBAR everything is.”
But the foreign policy of both papers has these 3 elements – kill, kill, kill.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
The real problem
is that facts have been totally lost on the Fox News crowd, so when the NYT or WaPo writes about them, they write them off as being liberal propaganda. If you’re talking about their op-ed page sure, but as John Stewart recently pointed out in an interview with Bill-o-the-clown, they are clearly labeled as opinion whereas Fox News labels it’s propaganda news.
The WaPo
isn’t liberal. I don’t know where you’re getting that from.
Also, nobody’s spewing liberal “propaganda.” NPR used to be pretty liberal until a certain network started giving to them—guess which one it is—and they report bullshit from conservatives.
Please, if anyone’s spewing “propaganda” it’s Palin and Bill O’Reilly.
Do you listen to Limbaugh? If you do, you shouldn’t be talking.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
yeah that last line?
I’m not a fan of. I don’t mind political talk but “you shouldn’t be talking” because a person might listen to someone you dislike doesn’t fly.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I'm saying that if anyone spews propaganda,
It’s Rush Limbaugh.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
twisted never even mentioned limbaugh is the thing
try not to make assumptions.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I said IF YOU DO.
If he doesn’t, then it doesn’t matter.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I think where she was going
was that if somebody thinks Rush is an unbiased news source, that their whole opinion on news would be negated. I think but I’m not sure.
Yes, basically.
Thank you.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
it just seems like a weird thing to bring up
1) who on earth thinks he’s unbiased?
2) what made anyone think of Rush Limbaugh?
Admittedly I’m only half paying attention to all of this because it bores the shit out of me, but I’m just saying.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Eh
I mean it wasn’t totally out of leftfield.
As to your first point, honestly a terrifyingly larger number of people probably think he’s unbiased. Seriously it’s scary how stupid much of this country is.
Agreed
there are surely whackjobs on both sides. I don’t think there are nearly as many on the left who believe in so many lies though. I don’t see anybody raving about things as absurd as death panels and birth certificates on the far left…
Well, a lot of us were convinced
that Rumsfeld had a plan to invade Iraq when Bush was inaugurated. And a sizeable number thought 9/11 was an inside job planned or allowed by Bush.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Those are truly whack job beliefs
but do you think nearly as many people believed/believe that as believe that Obama isn’t a citizen or that he wants government to create death panels? Especially the death panels chant – that was a pretty mainstream chant on the right.
well whatever
like I said I don’t care, I mostly misunderstood what she said initially and felt the need to respond. Everyone please ignore me and go back to talking.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
We're talking about news.
And sources of news. twisted (I think) was arguing that Fox News was an unbiased news source. And then he talked about liberal propaganda. I’m saying that if anyone spews propaganda, it’s on the right side, with Rush Limbaugh.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
It sounded like you were.
But if you didn’t, then there’s nothing to argue about ;)
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
What post?
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
You're right
I couldn’t find it. I thought you said something that you didn’t, so let’s not argue about that.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Does to me. :)
Sorry, couldn’t resist. But David Broder drives me up a fucking wall.
“Can we all be bi-partisan?”
NO! Not when the other side just says no and is diametrically opposed to the Presidents legislative agenda, no we can’t just be bi-partisan. And where the hell was this call for bi-partisanship from 2001-2008?
OK, now I’m just an old fart ranting on the internet. Feel free to ignore this post.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
There's an argument to be made for that point
I disagree, but it’s a stance I can respect.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
thanks
i was going to say that but i didnt wanna look like the guy beatin on kid here.
and to answer your question, no, i dont listen to limbaugh. although he’s said some good stuff for soundbites.
Wait a minute...
Telling someone they shouldn’t be talking politics is a lot different than disagreeing with them. You won’t win any debates or change any minds by telling people they can’t discuss a topic because you disagree with their opinion. That’s just elitism of the rankest order.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Me & Twisted
don’t agree on politics, beer, or Sarah Palin, but by God, I’ll defend his right to be wrong. :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
beer or sarah palin?
i thought we all agreed she was a lunatic. and i already forgot what beer you drink. this thread has exhausted my simple mind.
I'm a Coors Light drinker, myself.
Or as Sluggo calls it, Nazi piss water.
Apparently, if you do some research on the Coors family and you’ll find they’re right of Ghengis Khan on most topics.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
ah see im a coors guy myself when it comes to cheap beer
ghengis khan and his brotha don
could not keep from keepin on
we’ll cross that bridge after its gone
after we have passed it yeaaaa
that's the autorefresh
I’m sure duck and I were just typing at the same time.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
OK, I see why you took it the wrong way.
As I said to Stacey above, I meant that as an example. I didn’t mean he actually couldn’t talk about that.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Yeah...but he's also a racist, sexist,
insensitive…it goes on. And he lies. A lot.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
the lying comes with the territory
hes trying to get ppl to listen to him. but yea, he is racist and thats one of the reasons i dont pay any attention to him.
i got that on election day (of course this is just one example)
when my copy of the washington post came with a large insert that said: “the washington post supports barack obama for president.”
As editorial content, not news content.
Newspapers have been endorsing people for president for a long time now. :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
yes thats true
but a “conservative newspaper” as you claim the WaPo is would NEVER support a candidate like barack obama. i cant really see anything in his agenda that aligns with the conservative platform.
Deficit reduction?
He’s doing a quasi-spending freeze, but not touching the military. That’s gotta count for something, right? It sure is pissing the hell out of progressives like me…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
HE STARTED IT!
C’mon, somebody had to. And it might as well be a gun totin’ socialist like me.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
she would say you betcha and comment on how she can see other countries.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
I blame all the snow.
It really isn’t helping that the home market is all cooped up and going stir crazy.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
fuck, the rain is really starting to come down now.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
i just drove through a majorly flooded intersection in silver lake
craziness!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I wish my school would just close for the whole week already!
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
We have a private school down here...
that refuses to close. They just don’t close. They don’t do bus service, so they tell the parents,
If you can get them here, we’re open. Period." They had a delay this morning, and I think that’s all they will do. Me? I’ve had 2 school days out of the last 7 scheduled.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Well, they close EVENTUALLY.
But when the county announces it, what do they do? Wait six hours to announce their decision. It’s ridiculous.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
At least they close.
My work stays open no matter what happens. Our CEO is from the Northeast, so I guess he doesn’t think much of the snow we manage to get around here, even if it’s over two feet.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
you're MOCo right?
They already did.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I go to private school.
I said the county cancels school and my school waits six hours to announce their decision.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Whoopsies.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
sidwell friends? landon?
i went to park school. we NEVER EVER closed. it was ridonkulous.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
We always close eventually.
Even though my school claims, “we only follow the county on the first day”, they always close along with the county anyway.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Haha this thread is crazy
So, someone stole our goddamn snow shovel. Who the hell does that? My housemate had to chase down an Ace Hardware truck to get another one. So we’re in good shape for when the next 10-20 inches get dumped on top of the 2 feet that’s already there. Goddamn, goddamn.
Sorry.
I’ll bring it back tomorrow. I promise.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
::Shakes fist::
Seriously we thought a neighbor might have borrowed it, but it’s been gone for 2 whole days. Ugh!
Picking up beer on the way home.
Already have the cow bell.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
I'd recommend drinking that beer immediately
just in case. Actually that’s what I’d always recommend.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
nah they can just stick it in the snow to keep cold
I keep my beer on the porch in times such as these.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
haha
its funny you should say that. i have a whole case on my balcony. its stuff with snow to keep that beer as cold as the rockies.
It's too cold to leave it outside
Miller lite from a can needs to be slightly warm for it to be palatable. And by that I mean that you can drink it fast enough to not taste it. I could get better beer, but it’s cheap and does the job.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
i have a case of saranac out there
and believe me….it chills just perfectly. as for miller lite, it goes head to head with coors lite as my favorite cheap beer. or possibly PBR.
Fun story about bad beer
I was working on a stage play last year where I spent the length of it drinking Coors from those faded yellow cans. At one point I threw a full can of beer as hard as possible across the stage, which prompted a fun story from my professor in his deep Idaho accent:
“At first I thought, ‘Well, that’s probably not real beer’, but then by the second act the stale stench had permeated the [small black box theater] and I was like ‘Yep. Real beer.’.”
To which I said “yeah, Coors has gotta be the worst stuff ever”.
The professor replies:
“Well, it’s probably top three. The worst though is Black Diamond.
This was right after I had gotten out of college for the first time, and I was back home mowing the grass on a hot summer. My neighbor comes over and he says, ‘Hey, you like beer, doncha?’. And, you know, I’m a 22 year old college graduate, so I said ‘You bet’. And he says he’s got a six pack of Black Diamond, and only one’s missing if I wanted it. I figured, ‘Why Not?’.
Let me tell you: if someone ever offers you a six pack of beer with just one missing, don’t take it. A couple of weeks later a friend of mine comes to visit and I say to her, ‘Hey! You like beer doncha? And I’ve got a six pack for you, only two missing!’.
I like to think that somewhere there’s still a six pack of Black Diamond sitting in some complete stranger’s fridge with two beers still in it and a friend is coming over. ‘Hey! You like beer, doncha?’."
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Beer Pong is the ultimate equalizer.
All beer tastes better with beer pong.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
but it's important to START the game with something good
before moving to the cheap stuff
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I just get drunk before beer pong
that way I’m not thinking about the germs.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I can drink a lot of cheap beer
but coors lite is so eww to me.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I stick with miller lite
sometimes a bud lite.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
bud regular is awful
it gives me a giant headache, but if the price is right I’ll drink a bud lite.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I actually sort of enjoy bud lite lime
although I hate admitting it
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
its actually pretty good
miller chill wasnt bad either. although these days i mostly just add citrus vodka to coronas. high alcohol content tho and def more expensive.
stoli corroli
A bar I used to go to made those. They’d open the corona, hand it to you, you take a drink, then they add a shot of stoli. Shit’ll get you messed up.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Damn. now THAT'S a drink
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Just saying...
I haven’t tried beer…well, I have tried my dad’s beer but it’s SO GROSS.
Anyway, he HATES lite beer. Especially miller and bud lite…“they taste like piss water.” <—- his words.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
i said that when i was your age too
its an acquired taste…..not that i’m encouraging underage drinking.
That'll last...
about 90 minutes into the first day away at college, if my experience serves as a guide…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
all i can think of now
is that damned commericial with the 7 year old thats like…“in 7 years, i’m going to be an alcoholic”
Depends on the household you grew up in
College is the first true taste of freedom from parental supervision for some people (like me).
I didn't start drinking until the summer I graduated from high school
I was a dork ,though.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Woo hoo! Someone waited longer than me!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Wow...
Probably not something to be proud of but I was drinking semi-regularly (weekends) as a 10th grader and got drunk for the first time a good deal younger than that. I like booze…
As the parent of a 13 year old
I’m taking notes….
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
here are some ideas
1) put a lock on your liquor cabinet
2) don’t let your kid have a room with a door to the outside
OK...
1) No liquor cabinet. I almost never have more than one bottle in the house, but it’s not locked. Guess I need to fix that.
2) They don’t – both are upstairs, only access is down a staircase with lots of creaky stairs.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Where's there's a will...
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
in high school back in the 90s, some people liked to be called "straight edge"
Maybe this is still around, I dunno, but it meant you were a trenchcoat-wearing punk who swore off drugs and alcohol. My brother gravitated towards this movement and the summer before he went to college, he would tell anyone who would listen that he’d never drink alcohol.
It lasted about a week. Now he’s 28 and is a great drinking buddy.
Uh, some of us are still out here
And I’ve never worn a fucking trenchcoat, I just like Minor Threat and don’t like alcohol.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
I didn't mean it as an insult
but I guess the word punk sort of puts it over the top. My bad! Just a topical anecdote.
I was in college
during that time. I think the problem was there were a whole lot of kids who were doing it because they thought it was cool, not because they actually believed in it. I remember kids walking around with x’s written on their hands trying to bum cigarettes from me. I never had a problem with those who actually were straight edge, but for those were never serious about it and were just role playing, I think the label punk would apply.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
It's not the word punk that bothers me
It’s the association with trench coats
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
My brother wore a trenchcoat during his straight-edged phase
and shaved his head. I don’t remember thinking that it was weird, but my parents were obviously concerned. He turned out okay, though, and now he has a normal haircut and teaches high school.
Ah, to be 15 and to hate beer
I was like that once. Then I went to Maryland. And met Sluggo 2.0. He made the the alcoholic I am today.
(OK, not really an alcoholic, but sluggo got me drinking way more than I would have on my own. Bless you, sluggo.)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
How could you like it?!
It’s bitter. My dad got so mad at my brother when he found out that when my parents weren’t home, he poured himself a full glass of beer and drank it.
If I remember correctly he said, “It wasn’t a big deal, I just got a little tipsy.” !?!??!?!!??
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
I think most people dislike beer when they first drink it
Some people never learn to like it, some do. It’s an acquired taste, to be sure.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Honestly
I’m still not a HUGE fan. I’ll never be one of those people on a hot day that can’t wait to have a beer.
I drink to get drunk.
We have a WINNER!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
ive actually gotten over that
scary considering i havent graduated college yet. but anyways i drink liquor to get drunk. i drink beer for enjoyment.
Woodchuck Cider was the gateway drug that took me from liquor to actually enjoying beer (as opposed to drinking it because it was cheaper).
I usually don’t drink during the work week, and that first sip of beer on Friday night after a long week is just one of my favorite things.
OMG Wells!
I collected beer cans as a kid, and would always make my parents go to Wells to get weird beers. Glad to hear it’s still around!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
ha ha
I work with this guy who is probably about your age and he used to collect beer cans and I thought that sounded so weird and he said “no, people used to do that! really!”
I love Wells. It’s worth the trip up York Rd every now and again.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
i still have them
almost 500 of them. there used to be books every year that assigned value, etc.
a portion of my collection was displayed for a few months at the towson library. i was super proud.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
We used to stack our empties
and duck tape together to have a “party staff”…sort of like collecting cans…
Oh, not a problem
But with the rest of the alkies on the floor I was drinking WAY out of my weight class & needed someone who’d pass out before I did.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
Glad to know I proved helpful...
How anyone in that dorm passed fall semester that year is amazing.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Miller Lite from a can..
can never be even slightly palatable.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
beer from a can in general cant really be palatable
the only reason i really buy anything in a can anymore is for beer pong. other than that i try to stick to bottles even if it is slight more expensive.
This is actually not true anymore
A lot of microbrewers are starting to switch to cans. There’s a waterproof coating that you can put on the inside of a can that prevents any contact with the metal. Because its opaque and has a better seal, it actually protects the beer better than a bottle and cools down quicker.
There’s a similar change going on with wine bottles. There’s new screw caps that seal the bottle better than real or artificial corks, but people assume that its inferior because they’re so used to cork.
by kba26 on Feb 9, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not necessarily
Theres a lot of factors that go into it that make a broad statement impossible.
Both have significant environmental impact to produce. Cans are easier to recycle, but this obviously depends on people’s willingness to actually do so. The big variable is shipping costs. Bottles are so much heavier than cans that any advantages they have can quickly be erased if you ship them far enough.
or to brew your own in small artisanal batches
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
i do that too, but its not necessarily the best environmental option
unless you keg. i mean…those bottles have to come from somewhere.
we have a party pig....
…small flexible keg you distill the batch into and keep in your fridge.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=party+pig
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
the "let me google that for you" thing was a nice touch
jerk
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
sorry. cabin fever
don’t know why i did that when i’m trying to spread the gospel of party pig
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
fuck your California cabin fever
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
my smartass link aside,
partypig.com
they’re really, REALLY great. they have some that are a little larger than the one shown.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
it's adorable!
party pig.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
yes, I believe Felix Pie has one
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
this
that beer tastes soooo much better that way too. as long as you finish it in about a day before it goes flat.
cans are better for stomping
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I'm way beyond the age of shotgunning
But I could never do it. It always just spilled all over me.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Pics! We want pics!
C’mon, someone was gonna say it. Might as well be a friend…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
You said it so much better than I did
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
It's OK
Next time you’re in Salisbury, you can go shootin’ with me and my kid. And we’ll not recycle our soda cans.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I want to go shootin' with you and your kid!
Only if it’s shootin’, not shooting.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
It's a .22
It’s not like there’s any recoil.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
"It's a .22"
means nothing to me, dude sir.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Seriously, I'd prefer dude.
A ,22 is one of the smallest rounds of ammunition available commercially. When you fire a .22 rifle, you feel almost zero recoil – that’s when the firearm pushes back into you after you fire it. I’ve had my 10-year-old niece who weighs 60 pounds soaking wet fire a .22 rifle. On a range, properly supervised, of course. No back yard shooting for me.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
There’s a waterproof coating that you can put on the inside of a can that prevents any contact with the metal.
Of course, this coating is filled with PBAs, which leach into the beer and give you cancer.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
288 ounces in a case of 24 bottles
300 ounces in a 30 pack of cans. They cost about the same, so you get more beer for your money with cans.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Quality?
We’re talking about Miller Lite here.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Wish I could...
tomorrow might be the only day this week I actually teach…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
And no to that
Closed Wednesday. I’m going to get that Fourth pf July lesson ready,. be right back…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Be sure to include the Freemasons
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
Strange thread
Strangest this offseason IMO.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 3:48 PM EST reply actions
Cabin Fever?
I think people are getting a little antsy…
by tjk on Feb 9, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
I'm at work
Just don’t feel like working.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
I’m at work too. Of course, I work from home and by “working”, I mean I’m checking weather.com every 5 seconds to see when the blizzarding is going to start.
yea...i should be doing homework
but instead i’m checking weather.com and making bets on centsports.
i hate football
i just lost like 4 bets in a combined 30 seconds. these games were all over 88 mins too. gosh darnit
I've been off work for two days
God bless the federal government
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I watched the same movie
Three times today. I’m a sucker for romantic comedies, and Definitely, Maybe is at least decent as romantic comedies go.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
it's really that good?
3x in one day?
’splain.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
She's very pretty.
And adorably spunky in the movie.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
That would be affirmative, tower
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
No,
it’s really not, but I’ve been bored and that’s the DVD I borrowed from the library. I was going to read but then I realized…I should have gotten a book from the library too.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
The snow just started really coming down
I’m about to watch back to the future part 2.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I LOVE THOSE MOVIES.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
Yeah I like all three of them a lot
which is saying something.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
It's the best trilogy ever
Yeah, I said it, fight me Star Wars dorks.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
LOTR?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Nope.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
You asked for it...

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Godfather
No, III isn’t as good as the others. But the quality gap is less than between Return of the Jedi & the 1st 2.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
Godfather III is the worst mob movie ever
and that includes the awful Leslie Nielsen spoof movie that I blocked out of my head for sucking.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
no way!
empire strikes back and return of the jedi were great movies. the first one wasnt amazing, but i can live with that
aw I love the Ewoks
Ewoks Battle for Endor kicks ass.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
girl.
(you and i have rapport. don’t ban me, dude madam.)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
whatever my brother also loves it
We had it recorded off of TV on this VHS that eventually disintegrated because we watched it so much. A couple years ago for Christmas I bought him the DVD. It cost like $50 but it was totally worth it.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I kept waiting
for the kid with the arrow on his head
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Biff Tannen is a better villian than Darth Vader.
And hoverboards are way cooler than X Wing Fighters.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Hey, come on now! He's not anonymous!
That’s Derek “Hobbie” Klivian!
I’m talking Hobbie here, man. Sheesh. Anonymous? That’s some serious haterade.
Next thing you’ll be telling me that Jansen is anonymous, or Porkins or Tiree, or Nien Nunb.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
I used to know all their names
back when I played the Decipher CCG. I’m really dating myself here, but 15 years ago I’d be able to rattle off the name of every fighter pilot and be able to tell you the name of Biggs Darklighter’s younger brother.
Also: my favorite character from Star Wars is Wedge.
Yeah, I played the Decipher CCG long ago too
Middle school and early in high school, that was all we did during lunch. Play the Star Wars CCG. It just so happens I also read like every Star Wars novel that was written before 2003. So there’s a lot more of it in my memory.
Man… I am a nerd.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions
I am so over my head in nerdom right now
Man, I thought I was old-school nerd with my AD&D and Star Wars action figures as a kid and the novel version of Star Wars, but damn, y’all got me beat.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
My friend has two complete ewok villages.
One to play with when he was a kid, and one still in the boxes. I make fun of him for this constantly.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Until he sells it on eBay
for a bazillion dollars
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
He won't
I can’t for the life of me figure out why.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
You're probably on our level here.
There were just more outlets for the nerdiness starting in the mid-90s. It was enough that you could enjoy your nerdiness with fellow nerds, with the understanding that this was still an entirely uncool activity and you’d never meet any chicks.
Now there’s nerdy 15 year olds running around with nerdy girlfriends. What the fuck is this shit? Times, they are a-changin’. The kids will never know the dark days their predecessors lived through.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 9, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, it's worse than that
I teach 9th graders, all of them over the course of the year, and I have one of my wrestlers in class. Girls flirt with him constantly, but he’s got his eye on the cutest blonde in class. She will do partner work with him, but other than that, won’t give him the time of day.
Why? Because she’s dating THE dorkiest 11th grader in the school. I mean, this kid looks like McLovin’s stand-in for Superbad. No ride, horrible job at Dairy Queen, skinny thing whose hair is usually a mess and barely passing most of his classes because he’s too lazy to to the work. Yet, she adores him.
Everytime I see them walk down the hallway holding hands, I end up laughing. And the blonde caught me laughing once, and asked why. I had to make something up.
Shit like that did NOT happen in 1984, that’s all I’m saying.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Steve, what's up with your sig?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
Huh.
I didn’t know that c would move down the page until now, so your sig serves a purpose. Well done.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
aw I love that story
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
We went to the school
that burned down before the old school was built.
And not for nothing, coolest Star Wars bad guy ever was Adm. Thrawn from the Timothy Zahn novels.
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
by sluggo 2.0 on Feb 9, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never did read those
They were just before my time I guess – I was still reading Hardy Boys. I basically read everything between the Thrawn trilogy and that New Jedi Order bullshit, though. Half of the books were good and half were romance novels starring Han Solo. I read them anyway.
you're not a nerd!
you’re just spending lots of time on the internet! talking about baseball statistics! and….
um, never mind.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Now you're just making shit up
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Now I've got to go watch that.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
What about Toy Story?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Everytime i check the forecast the heart of the storm keeps moving towards philly
Think you guys might actually dodge the worst of this one
Heading toward Philly meaning East (good for me) or north (bad for me) of Baltimore?
(And at the risk of being “Let me google that for you’d”, what site are you using?)
Weather.com and my local stations don’t give very clear live updates.
weather.com, i'm just checking obsessively to avoid writing a paper
pretty much right up 95, maybe a little more north than east
I hope so
although I’m certainly getting a good work out. The “shovel some snow, carry it a billion steps to find a place that isn’t already 7 feet high with snow, dump it, walk back, repeat” work out is better than just doing regular squats, and the “stand on a precariously placed step ladder and use the weird awning rake thing to pull three feet of snow off of my granfather’s awning so it doesn’t collapse” is going to be great for my shoulders and back.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
We're gonna miss the bulk of it..
but we closed tomorrow anyway. None of the Salisbury side streets or non-main county roads (like mine) have seen a plow in 2010, so it may end up being all week if we get rain that freezes.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
i know!
it was sunny like 10 mins ago and now its coming down like crazy. not really sticking tho so ima still have class tomorrow :(
I actually saw
all 3 of them in the theater.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
DON'T SPOIL IT!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Why the hell are the O's interested...
…in Jarrod Washburn?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Couldn't get one former Mariner LHP
so they figured they’d go after another (older and much worse) one?
I think I'd rather see them give a random fan a start
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
You just won this thread, twisted.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Because he’s a veteran who knows how to win.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
he has playoff experience!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
it's been posted before, but it's always good.....
Derek Jeter Leads Yankees to Victory with Dramatic Walk-Off Intangible
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
because it's always funny
Derek Jeter Makes Easy Play Look Easy
Teammate Robinson Cano added that “watching him day in and day out, it’s easy to lose sight of the fact that everyone makes that kind of play all the time… It’s a joy just watching him glide up the middle, catch the ball on a stolen base attempt, and lay down the tag as if he’s done it a million times before, which he has. What a teammate.” Later in the inning, Jeter made an easy play look difficult with that jump-throw thing he doesn’t need to do.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
I love The Onion.
Good stuff.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
don't forget the one about jeter and harold baines.
That was the best Jeter one.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
EFF NO!
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
From you!
I learned it from watching you!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Feb 9, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How will we ever make it through a game thread without cursing?
I mean, I can’t think of Pedoria without saying “fuck that midget bastard”
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Pretty much
And Youk?

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Guerrin!
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
OMG, what a classic PSA
whose voice is that at the end of it? that’s a famous voice.
also, the dad looks like kotter.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=voice+actors+from+1987+anti-drug+psa
Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I tried to look it up, and couldn’t find it.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
LMAO
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Simmer down, young man.
No need to fall to our depths of coarse language at such a young age.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
YESYESYES WOOHOO!!!!
No school the rest of the week. HAHAHA.
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
And now, on the iTunes
“Yesterday Don’t Mean Shit” by Pantera. Oh,. it’s gonna be a good night after all…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I just noticed
Stacey, you wrote for the MASN story on Wieters that they wonder what he’ll do in 2009. Wow. Are his powers so awesome, so incredible, that he can travel back through time and hit for the entire 09 season? Do his powers know no bounds??
Also it’s possible someone pointed this out earlier and I can’t see it through all the political… discussions.
holy guacamole...thats some power!

okay i dont know what im saying but i wanted to use that picture cuz i like it.
I've had way to much time on my hands this weekend
I’m in Week 6 in my Madden Season. Did I mention I’m controlling all 32 teams?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 6:43 PM EST reply actions
Compare and contrast Thomas More's "Utopia"
and Niccolo Machiavelli’s “The Prince”. Be sure to include a discussion on ethics of the use of power by a leader. Be sure to have a thesis statement, three supporting reasons, details from the texts to support your reasons, and refute an opposing argument. I expect a 6 paragraph rough draft in class Friday. I’d suggest using a graphic organizer as a pre-writing activity.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Wow
I’m glad you were never my teacher.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
C'mon...
I’d give a rubric on the day I make the assignment. Something like this would be
1 day pre-writing (graphic organizer supplied)
1 day rough draft (with template of what should be in each paragraph)
1 day editing in-class, (editing checklist supplied)
1 night for final for homework
Final due 3 days after assignment. And my rubric shows everything the kids need to include, with detail. No surprises when I grade.
We’re reading about both books now, and reading a small excerpt of The Prince.
I will do an assignment similar to that with the atomic bomb with my 9th graders., They have to state whether it was necessary or not, and use original memos of the time to support their argument. I require 2 reasons, not 3, but I do require the refutation. From 9th graders. All of them (except my Special Ed. kids, they get an alternate assignment)
But remember, public schools don’t teach shit, right? :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
You're teaching 9th graders?
I’ve gotten almost an exact copy of this type of assignment twice.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
I fully expect
this is not be the first time my students have encountered an original documents essay in the school careers
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Meaning, I fully expect you could do a great job on this
didn’t mean to come across as snarky as I might have.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I thought it sounded awful for 9th grade until i reread it and saw 6 paragraphs
I know people who could hammer out 30 or 40 pages on that without blinking.
I try and keep it reasonable
I more worried about them structuring an argument than the length.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Okay
I take it back. I hated trying to fill out a paper after I already said what I was going to say because it had to be a certain length. I used to make sure I didn’t use contractions so I could turn one word into two.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Bluebook loves footnotes
These law review articles i’ve been reading so many i swear half of them have to be made up.
Heh
yeah. In college we didn’t have a lot of writing assignments, and I had aced the AP English exam, so we’d do peer reviews in my lone writing and literature class and I was floored by how much some people needed to cheat to fill out five pages on Macbeth’s historical significance.
They were more shocked that I could push out 8 pages in about an hour and a half, and that is it was far and away better than their shit.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I took the AP thing too.
I had to write a page essay on a four line poem about a frog getting run over by a lawnmower. Stupidest thing I ever had to write about.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
it wasn't stupid to the frog.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I went to private school
so I never had to read either book. I did have to do a report on Jane Eyre ( is that spelled right?) which was the worst book I ever had to read. I also thought it said 6 pages when I posted.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
You know
I don’t think I liked anything I read in high school until about 3 years later when I realized I loved all of it. Except fucking Wuthering Heights. Fuck that noise.
Anyway, I’m heading home. Enjoy your snow, suckers.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
The book
was about some woman locked in an attic, I think. I don’t rembember why, and I don’t think anything happened the entire 350 or so pages. I had a better time with L’Morte de Arthur, and that was written in Old English.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Oh I love Wuthering Heights!
For awhile I read it every year. Hm maybe I’ll start that again.
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
When will you ever find the time????
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Thomas More
Paul Schofield’s version was nothing like the real guy.
sigh what a disappointment
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
This is nearing 600 comments
is this an Open Thread record?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions
I'm wondering
how long before the server crashes.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
I don't think it'll crash
It will just load like a turtle.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm so sick of snow, this is what it looks like outside my back door right now

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Early world series picks anyone?
I’ve switched it up, now it’s the Rangers beating the Giants. Ian Kinsler is World Series MVP.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 7:27 PM EST reply actions
Aubrey Huff, starting first baseman of a World Series team?
Pshaw!
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I could play first if I had Lincecum pitching.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions
Orioles over the Nats
Because a man can dream of a world series where he can attend every game.
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
remember then when that seemed possible for about 3 months in 2005?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
yes, I do
"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09
Holy cow, you guys really do have cabin fever.
Vizzini: Let me put it this way. Have you ever heard of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates?
Man in Black: Yes.
Vizzini: Morons.
what?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, It's Youkilis.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
I don't get it.
It seems like every olympics, some girl is picked out as the hot girl for that olympics, and everyone acts like she’s the hottest girl ever. I mean she’s good looking, but this is the internet, there’s hotter girls out there.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
I just noticed that two of the better female oylmpicians are both named lindsay
Lindsey Vonn, and snowboarder Lyndsey Jacobellis.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
That was my point.
I think it was some track star from a European country. Anyway, do a search for Kristi Leskinen. She didn’t make the olympics, but if she did, we’d be talking about her instead of Lindsey Vonn.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
i guess
i’m kinda into skiing so i’ve known about her for a long time (since she was single….sadly, shes married now)
I just found her
while I was looking for the girl from 2008.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Yeah she's hot.
I’m just saying there’s more fuss being made about her than there should be. That whole SI cover shoot thing where she was bending over caused a controversy, even though she was just in a skiing pose.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
by Gregory O on Feb 9, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oo i didnt hear about that
i just happened to notice these. not bad. not bad at all.
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
That controversy was ridiculous
Seriously, how sick of mind do you have if you interept the cover like that.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
In one of the articles I saw about it,
someone posted a SI cover of a guy doing the same pose from 4 years ago, and pointed out that no one cared about that one.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
For all of you complaining about snow...
This was two weeks ago here in Oklahoma. We’ve still got a few pockets of people w/o power. My parents in the SW part of the state went about a week without.


Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
yowza
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Damn.
Doesn’t look like the snow was as much problem as the ice. But the ice looks like it sucks.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Ice is 10 times worse than snow IMO
We rarely get much snow but we get one good ice storm a year.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
last one...
and I’m not sure what those two people are doing but my guess is stealing something.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
It looks like a snowblower.
They still might be stealing it.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
We don't exactly have
snowblowers here. My guess is maybe a generator.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Generators are kinda heavy to steal.
Some do have wheels, though.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
hahahahaha look at those sketchballs
they look like they’re up to no good
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
are you taking these pictures?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Feb 9, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
A friend of mine that is an electrical lineman did.
Don't let the sunshine fool ya. - Townes Van Zandt
Hey do you guys remember Corey's Corner?
I don’t know what made me think of it.
http://www.camdenchat.com/2009/5/16/877682/coreys-corner
http://www.camdenchat.com/2009/5/17/878330/coreys-corner-5-17-09-from-the
I will lead these Peoples to the promised land, also known as "Slightly Ahead of the Blue Jays." ~WietersRunDry
Didn't quite make 700.
Still gotta be a record.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
or maybe sarah palin can just play SS for us.
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
or i can talk to myself until i make it 700 comments
by twistedlogic on Feb 9, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
on a side note
anybody still awake ever take orbital mechanics? i’m stuck on my last goshdamn hw prob and i wanna go to sleep at some point in the near future
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
you know
orbiting stuff? satellites and all that jazz?
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Not anymore
Obama took care of that. :)
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
sounds fun
too bad I’m not smart enough to do that sort of thing. Instead I read scifi where the physics are implied.
abortion, balanced schedule, gun control, the DH, school prayer, pitcher/hitter draft picks, etc etc
hahahaha careful
this strategy could be deadly
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
fuck uzr
made up by ppl who have way too much time on their hands.
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions
shit
i said i was gonna try to stop cursing because its rubbing off on the children.
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
It's over 700 now
Congratulations, ladies and gentlemen. We should all be proud for our parts played, both big and small, in today’s shenanigans.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Feb 10, 2010 12:25 AM EST reply actions
it was epic
i attribute these 700 comments mostly to me talking to myself.
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions
end of the night has been good for centsports bets
i’m closing in on 2 whole dollars
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I just started tonight, up to 16 cents
I just want to bank enough before the beginning of the season to be able to bet on every single baseball game
16 cents?
I just started too, and I’m still at 10. Bet it all on a basketball game that hasn’t happened yet. Between centsports, partypig, and jewishchickenfarmer.com, CC should look into selling some advirtising. And if they do, I want 10% for suggesting it.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
oh and i want another 10 percent
for bringing up centsports and giving you that idea
by twistedlogic on Feb 10, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
way back in the day,
we had a virtual filibuster to keep a thread going.
236 comments is nothing by todays standards, but back in June of 2006, it was quite an accomplishment.
warning: it’s definitely NSFW.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
The weird part
is that it was mostly about baseball. That’s just strange.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
Already called out of work tomorrow.
Calling for 12-20 by tomorrow evening, yet were still open. I hate my job. See you all tomorrow.
"I think it's a disgrace they only beat the average team by 10 games in the standings with three times the money. I'd fire that GM. You don't need a GM. All you have to do is buy the last Cy Young Award winner every year" - Steve Bisciotti on the NY Yankees
I am NOT reading all of this...
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
There WILL be a quiz later
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
But, but...
there’s no school for the rest of the week!
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)

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