GameThread: Orioles @ Yankees, 1:05 p.m.
by Stacey on Mar 13, 2010 12:30 PM EST
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The weather report in Tampa isn't calling for rain so we won't have a rerun of yesterday. The pitching match up for today is Jeremy Guthrie vs. Javier Vazquez. This is Guthrie's third start of the spring. Last Sunday vs the Red Sox he pitched 2.1 innings, allowing 1 run on 3 hits and 2 walks. Vazquez has pitched only once to date, 2 IP vs the Phillies. He allowed just one hit, a HR to Jimmy Rollins, and struck out four.
Here are your lineups, courtesy of Britt Ghiroli:
| Baltimore Orioles | New York Yankees |
|---|---|
| Adam Jones - CF | Brett Gardner - CF |
| Cesar Izturis - SS | Nick Johnson - DH |
| Nick Markakis - RF | Jorge Posada - C |
| Miguel Tejada - 3B | Robinson Cano - 2B |
| Matt Wieters - C | Curtis Granderson - LF |
| Garrett Atkins - 1B | Randy Winn - RF |
| Ty Wigginton - 2B | Juan Miranda - 1B |
| Lou Montanez - LF | Brandon Laird - 3B |
| Michael Aubrey - DH | Ramiro Pena - SS |
If you're in the New York area you can watch this game on WWOR or listen on WCBS-880. If you're not, those options are both available on mlb.tv and Gameday Audio.
Let's Go O's!
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DAVE.
Stop putting guys with awful OBP second. Please?
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
The Spring of a Thousand Horrifying Lineups continues!
This is my least favorite because it seems like something we will really have to endure if Roberts is out (minus Lou and New Aubrey of course). At least Atkins is 6th, where he fucking belongs (well, he belongs at 8th, but close enough).
We already know all about Cesar Izturis’ bat, which blows chunks. The fact that Trembley never had the guy hitting in the two hole put down a sac bunt in all of 2009 makes this particularly headscratching, but how about this: when Cesar started a game and hit second, the Orioles averaged 4.07 runs scored, compared to 4.68 when Cesar didn’t hit second. Yes, sample sizes, but come on – it’s not like the Orioles were even close to playing better with Izturis up there. I DONT GET IT.
Other issues: Tejada in the four hole, Jones batting lead-off.
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Yankes radio network
Fabulous
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?
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Sorry
I just heard Sterling introducing Susan Waldman with his stock intro as the Yankees compan… Oh, never mind.
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I know....
I made it a thing this year to avoid these d-bags on YES and the Yankees Radio Network. I really, really can’t stand them. It’s become personal.
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Howdy
The lineups are indeed puzzling. Is there some kind of benefit that comes from experimentation here? There aren’t a lot of unknown quantities in this group.
Sterling and Waldman
very positive on the Orioles. It’s downright weird to hear multiple out of town announcers talk about how good the Orioles are poised to be. It almost makes me want to tell them all to shut up because I don’t want anything to go wrong.
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They're just being nice
like my girlfriend’s dad who apparently really wants to cheer me up by talking incessantly about how the Orioles are looking up this year. Which is more insulting than anything else, really. Stop talking down to me: the Orioles are still an under-.500 club. I know it, you know it, stop lying to my face to make me feel better!
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
They are the best team money can buy
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 13, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
RoE Izturis!
Nevermind – Dave’s a genius!!!
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The Yankee softball spring training unis look pretty fugly
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Nick smashed that one.
Only a single, but about the hardest-hit single you’ll ever see.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
I've been a little concerned about Nick
this spring, not in terms of statistics (and really, I’m not REALLY concerned, just a little bit) that he doesn’t seem to be the good version of plate discipline Nick from 2008. Even that single was a ball up around the shoulders that he could have taken. Not that I’m complaining (or particularly worried – it’s only Spring Training).
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
He chased a couple of high fastballs during another game that had a TV feed, which I wasn’t happy about. I hope he’s more patient once the regular season starts.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
Good news, guys
Graig Nettles thinks Tejada will be just fine at 3B.
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oh thank god
now that we have the yankee bump everything will be fine
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Glad to see Miggi still knows how to gidp
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led the league the past two years!
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Walking Gardner?
Why not give him something to hit? That’s not encouraging for Guts.
Ken Singleton
“When you have a hitter with over a 40% career on-base percentage, that’s like having a .400 hitter”
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Almost, Ken. Almost.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
This is all Millwood's fault
He set the bad starter precedent and the rotation hasn’t been the same since.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
You think the extra day hurt Guts?
Cause he’s looking like a hot mess.
You might be interested to know
That just by moving from the Tigers to the Yankees, Granderson is gonna become twice as good a hitter.
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Guthrie is missing his spots and the strike zone alternatingly
one out, two in, bases loaded after Winn pops-up to Izturis.
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Thanks Izzy
Definitely didn’t want Miggy playing that.
We OWN the Yerks backup #9 hitter!
I call that progress, don’t you?
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Finally.
That was brutal.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
The number three does have other significances, y'know
JK
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Lotta hard hit line drives
A couple of lucky hits, too, though. Guts has to settle down next inning for sure.
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The YES crew
is apparently reading the SI article on air, pointing out their favorite Wieters facts (but not MWF).
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Michael Kay
“Now the Orioles are trying to build a farm system”
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Trombley?
You’ve been reading his name for a couple of years now, John.
I liked
When Waldman said the only reason the Orioles called up Matt Wieters last year was to show the fans that they’re not just “bumbling along.” It had nothing to do with the fact that he was ready I guess.
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Nice hit Miss Wiggy
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Deal with it!!!
Joe Flacco's eyebrows have been charged with several penalties this season, most for acting as an "ineligible receiver downfield".
Can Lou hit?
It appears he can.
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I will somehow bring myself to manage to tolerate that apparent fact
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single Aubrey
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I bet Old Aubrey wishes he were single sometimes
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ha did you see that nine questions thing with old aubrey
I can’t remember the newspaper it was in. They asked if he could be any other baseball player, who would it be. His answer?
“If I was single, Derek Jeter. If not, Albert Pujols.”
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I did indeed
I loved how that was his first instinct.
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LOL
I love Old Aubrey, what can I say. I’m glad he’s somewhere else, but I love him.
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hey John Sterling
If you don’t have any idea where Michael Aubrey came from, it’s ok to just not bring it up at all.
“He played in the minors for, I think it was the Nationals.” wrong
“Then he was apparently traded to Baltimore.” wrong
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Well the Orioles only traded for him
to show us fans that they aren’t just bumbling along.
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Boy if only we had a real hitter up right now
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Dear god
Waldman and Sterling discussing realignment.
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Ooooh share their thoughts!
I assume they’d be in favor of a system in which the Yankees play exclusively against the Royals.
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the entire discussion is totally ridiculous
“Apparently the plan is for the Red Sox and Yankees to just play only each other. They can have the east and they’ll just have 8 teams in the central.”
Then Sterling said that one thing being discussed is splitting up the Red Sox and Yankees, which totally isn’t. And Suzyn Waldman almost had a heart attack, “But what about the rivalry! They’re going to ruin the rivalry!”
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arrogant fuckers
oooo lets move the shit out of the division and let the yankees and red sox play each other. great idea bumpkin
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
Oh and
And of course the AL East managers are saying they don’t want to leave the east but it’s just lip service because they don’t want their players to know that they know they can’t compete with the yankees and red sox.
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Waldman thinks teams shouldn't whine
about having to play the Yanks and Red Sox 18 times each—“somebody has to play them!” Sterling thinks other teams should “build up” to the Yankees’ and Red Sox’s level. Brilliant.
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Of course they should
they should develop their own players through the farm system that the Yankees can then sign away in free agency.
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They are going on about teams not spending revenue sharing on players
How many of those teams are in the AL East, BTW?
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
Two
TB and TOR
Two teams in the East spend so much they have to pay INTO revenue sharing
Two teams make so little they get FROM revenue sharing.
I’ve give you a hint whom the fifth team is.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
He's getting a little bit unlucky, too
but yeah – location isn’t good.
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Wiggy with the bat AND the glove!
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I didn't know that was possible.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
OH MERCY!
That was fucking beautiful wiggity wiggity wiggity.
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Wiggy said last year
2B is his favorite position and where he feels most comfortable. And it’s only 128 career games but of 2B, 1B, and 3B, it’s the only place where he has a positive career UZR.
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I just can't fathom how he has the range for middle infield work
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yeah me neither
can he dive?
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Wiggy!
Damn, he is confusing the hell out of me. What am I supposed to think about him?
Ok so they're talking about the Pirates
and how beautiful their stadium and how sad they are for their fans. And Sterling says, “they have a great little park” that’s not condescending at all.
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so moral of the story...
this guy is an enormous fucking asshole?
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Nicely put
but I think it goes with the job. Chuck Thompson he ain’t.
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
In his defense...
it is a small park.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
yeah, that wasn't his tone
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True, but
the Pirates management does deserve to be bitch-slapped
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not really
the rebuild they’re working on is being done pretty astutely. You have to like some of the good talent they’re stockpiling.
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Sorry
Should have been a reply. Phone posting.
by killertomato on Mar 13, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
Because it sounds like the Yankee fans are at at unusually high level of sobriety
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
The two idiots
Behind me thought Wieters name is Meyers. He’s on the cover of SI for Christs sake.
by killertomato on Mar 13, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Did they say Guts it out of the game?
Who’s in?
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oh
well good inning for him
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I guess this must be it for him
His pitch count must be off the charts. On the positive side, no homers, and hhe did just get a 1-2-3. On the negative side, he looks absolutely like shit. And that’s on the radio.
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of line drives, but not a lot of fly balls
hard to say what he was working on or not, but I guess I’ll take it. It’s just Spring Training.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
The YES guys were saying he seemed to be throwing fastball/changeup.
So hopefully they’re right and that helps explain the suckitude.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
His location in general wasn't very good
but if he can keep the fastball from getting driven to the outfield, that’s certainly a positive (though not if the result is still a line drive)
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Michael Kay on Alfredo Aceves
“This guy is an artist out there!”
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Wind-blown spring training dongs off Yankees?
Two words for you: contract extension
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wind-blown dongs
that really sounds weird.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Wind Blown Dongs
is the name of my new band.
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And that's why going commando just doesn't work out
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by Eat More Esskay on Mar 13, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Yankee trivia
“Who gave up Derek Jeter’s Yankee record hit on September 11th”
I know I know I knooooooooooow. The YES guys do NOT know, though.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Hopefully Chris Tillman will be a much more memorable name for them soon.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
Do we mean the hit...
that only left him 250 behind Harold Baines?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
what are you talking about?
derek jeter has the most hits EVER
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
thanks you,
without that tag, i’m not sure any of us would have understood your comment.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
no prob
didnt want the gullible folks here to soil their trousers
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Ugh.
Anyone else watching YES? The trivia question is basically “Which O’s pitcher gave up the hit to Jeter that made him pass Lou Gehrig as all-time Yankees hit leader?”
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Is the answer
“The same guy who struck out 8 other Yankees and got the win on a night when the Orioles beat their asses?”
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Guts back out there, huh?
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I wonder what's up with New Aubrey?
Replaced after one at bat as the DH for Michel Hernandez? What’s the deal?
Also: Guts is still in there at 60 pitches.
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hope he's not hurt
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I asked Britt Ghiroli
She hasn’t heard any reason that Aubrey came out.
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Now he's gone
But they have no idea who’s coming in to replace him
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That's peculiar.
Guts is out now after two pitches for the lazy fly ball out. I guess Dave just wanted to see someone come in mid-inning?
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funny to send him back out for two pitches
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Jason Berken
Who’s been the shit in ST
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Maybe Dave sees the wisdom of having two long guys
to keep the pen from burning out again
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Word from Sterling is
So the top four pitchers are Millwood, Guthrie, Matusz, and Tillman with a bunch of youngsters fighting for the fifth spot.
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Oh? Any idea who has the inside track?
Maybe Koji or Hendrickson? Or are they pondering bringing in Jarrod Washburn?
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heh
Waldman mentioned Bergesen and Sterling said, “Yeah I think he’s in the mix for the 5th spot. They’re going to have a LOT of guys in that spot this year I’m sure.”
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i'm just going to pretend i didnt hear any of that
this guy is a class A douchebag
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
You could say the same thing about the Yankees
just saying…
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we got him in a trade from the nationals right?
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
’cause they pocketed their revenue sharing loot.
by fishoutawata on Mar 13, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
After the Nationals drafted him, right?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I love Nick Johnson
A couple of years ago when he was on the Nats I got great seats from a friend — about 20 rows back, right behind home plate. Nick came around to score on a double or something, and I noticed his foot slip a little bit on home plate, and I joked that he probably hurt himself. He missed the rest of the season.
by Joltin Joe Orsulak on Mar 13, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions
This is the Jason Berken I know and love
wait, scratch that last thing.
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Guthrie's pitch count by inning
36
16
8
3 (one out)
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Good job, Berken.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
3 quick ground balls for Berken?
Boy he can defintely handle those Yankee AAA players.
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good thing
because he’ll be seeing a lot of them this year
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Nice inning, Jason
And we continue to own the AAA types
It's been a weird tournament
the game last night was both the most frustrating, worst, best, and most uplifting and exciting game at various points. Ultimately frustrating I suppose, but it was good tv.
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cuz i'm not a maryland fan
and i absolutely despise vasquez
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
whats too bad for me?
that maryland isnt going to get a great seed now?
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions
no, not being a maryland fan
they’ve been very exciting to watch in the last part of the season, that’s all. They made for real good tv.
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You're missing out on a special player
I LOVE that kid!
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Well so are you
but nobody cares, it doesn’t stop you from being fun to interact with.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Whoa
totally just reread that and does it sound bad!
I mean, I’m an asshole too – but Vasquez is still fun to watch.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I'm just fine with the way it read
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
No, he's not
He’s a passionate player who gives his body and every ounce of energy to win for a coach he adores whil enduring some of the worst xenophobic and profane-laden abuse ever offered at an ACC player. If you can’t see that, you’re loss, man. I love that kid. I’d love to see Gary recruit 50 more just like him. Shimmy and all.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
he doesnt play any defense which showed last nite
and he deserves some of that abuse. when you get so full of yourself, sometimes you need a little shot.
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
So, he deserves signs that say "DEPORT VASQUEZ"
because he doesn’t man up on D enough? Interesting theory there.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
It isn't?
he deserves some of that abuse.
So, which abuse does he deserve? The “USA! USA!” chants from Florida State? Did he deserve that? Please enlighten me.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
personally i dont care because hes a tool
but he is severely overrated and deserves any “abuse” to that effect. the deport him crap is stupid tho, i agree.
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree totally
and while I went to UMd and we certainly did our fair share of jeering, we never attacked anyone’s nationality or ethnic heritage.JR Reid’s haircut and perceived literacy? Sure. His parents? Never.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
what?
i was agreeing with you. unless he’s here illegally, i dont understand any of that useless attacking of his nationality.
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Still trying to figure out
but he is severely overrated and deserves any "abuse" to that effect.
You say you agree with me, after you say this. Well, just about every jeer or taunt I’ve heard by ACC fans has been directed at his nationality, not his game. So which is it?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
He's also fond of jacking up ill-advised 3 point shots
But I realize you have to take the bad with the good for Vasquez. I like everybody who plays for Maryland because they play for Maryland. Even when they frustrate me.
I hope we can get into the Sweet 16 this year.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Mar 13, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Pie's been hurting
shoulder tendinitis
http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck/2010/03/zrebiec_pies_shoulder.html
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Too much lifting, huh?
Kid can’t win.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
maybe he's trying to be macho
as a result of getting called adorable too frequently. I’ll try to treat him more like a man from now on.
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Who are the YES guys talking about
re: Hall of Fame and 493 home runs?
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Wasn't listening,
but Lou Gehrig and Fred McGriff both had 493 homers.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
Probably the Crime Dog then
since whoever they were talking about isn’t in there and they felt should be.
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Hahahaha, beautiful infield hit for Wiggy.
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He does it all!
infield hits! home runs! web gems in the middle infield!
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infield hit for wiggy
is not something you hear often
by twistedlogic on Mar 13, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Wiggy legging out a dribbler?
Is there a full moon or something?
I'm really looking forward
to hearing the words Davis and Tides in the same sentence.
OT: Ice Road Truckers
Dude is driving an 18-wheeler ON ICE! They actually filmed underneath the ice, shooting up, as he drove over. That’s crazy.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Well, the subs are in
and I’m outta here.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Well we are in the present
And presently, I am going to turn off my TV and go get lunch
The night is darkest right before the dawn
by Baltimore Warrior on Mar 13, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
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