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PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 16, 2010

RHP STEVE JOHNSON RETURNED TO ORIOLES

The Orioles today announced that RHP STEVE JOHNSON has been returned to the organization from the San Francisco Giants. Johnson was selected by the Giants in the Rule 5 draft in December.

Johnson was 3-2 with a 2.84 ERA in seven starts for Double-A Bowie in 2009 after being acquired from the Los Angeles Dodgers along with 3B JOSH BELL in exchange for LHP GEORGE SHERRILL on July 30. He was 12-7 with a 3.41 ERA overall last season.

Johnson has been assigned to Bowie and will report to the Orioles’ minor league camp.

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Teams are making thie first cuts to send down to MiLB camps. If it was obvious Steve wAnt going to stick, make the move at the same time as the cuts. Every pitcher in camp reduces the innings of every other pitcher.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Mar 16, 2010 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ha, awesome

There was so much idiocy at the other place about this move that this just makes me incredibly happy

"I'd like to do something. We all would here," he added. "As I've said before, you just don't want to do anything stupid that you're thinking in May, 'What in the God's green earth was I thinking about?'" - Andy MacPhail 12/8/09

by getxstoked on Mar 16, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

So any team had a chance to pick up Johnson and keep him under Rule V rules but passed. Thus we could option him to the minors w/o putting him on the 40 man roster. Correct?

Bruce Springsteen rules.

by birdman on Mar 16, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe every team had a chance to pick up Johnson and place him on their 25 man roster but they would have to keep him there the entire season.

Bruce Springsteen rules.

by birdman on Mar 16, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats the case initially, which is the option the Giants chose.

I’m not sure if you’re saying that once the Giants declined to keep him every other team had another shot to pick him up, but i’m pretty sure thats not true.

by kba26 on Mar 16, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, once claiming team declines, player has to be returned to original team

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Mar 16, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's exactly what i'm saying

I’m pretty sure that’s the case. When we picked up Jose Bautista from the Pirates in the Rule V draft in 2004, he went to the Rays and the Royals before ending back up with the Pirates.

Bruce Springsteen rules.

by birdman on Mar 16, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know you can trade rule 5 draftees,

but the same restriction applies to the new team, the player has to remain on the 25 man roster or be offered back to the initial team. This may have been what happened there.

by kba26 on Mar 16, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of. Here’s the story. The O’s released him and put on waivers. The Rays claimed him. The Rays then traded him to the Royals after barely using him. The Royals barely used him as well and then traded him to the Mets. The Mets didn’t even use him and then traded him back to the Pirates.

See here for the entire sage.

7. Jose Bautista

Dec. 15, 2003: Drafted by the Baltimore Orioles from the Pittsburgh Pirates.

… the Orioles decided that they’d had so much fun with the previous Jose Bautista that they’d better grab this one too. And from that point things became downright kooky.

There wasn’t anything remarkable about this fellow’s minor league performance. A third baseman who’d spent three years in the Pirates’ system without rising above high-A, Bautista had hit all right, but nothing great, either in terms of power or average or strike zone discipline, nor did he have speed or a great glove. Nevertheless Baltimore’s two-headed GM (Jim Beattie and Mike Flanagan) decided to give him an opportunity.
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Bautista made the Orioles’ roster, but by no means the starting lineup: Melvin Mora stepped forward and grabbed the third base job and had a great year, and Bautista was relegated to a strict scrubeenie role. By early June he’d appeared in just 16 games, and had only 12 plate appearances, and the Orioles were no longer willing to devote a roster slot to him. But before offering him back to Pittsburgh, they placed Bautista on waivers, and the last-place Tampa Bay Devil Rays claimed him.

The struggling Devil Rays would seem to be an organization that would benefit from investing some patience in this prospect, but no: After giving Bautista just 15 PAs in three-and-a-half weeks, Tampa Bay gave up on him, accepting a purchase offer from the Royals. Yet neither would Kansas City, also a cellar-dweller, demonstrate any commitment, as just a month and only 26 plate appearances later, the Royals traded Bautista to the Mets.

Bautista’s stay in New York would be the briefest yet: Their only interest was in packaging him as part of a trade with Pittsburgh, completed on the very same day. Thus his original organization had gotten Bautista back, after a bizarre odyssey in which he’d been the property of four other franchises within the space of two months. And the Pirates, as Bautista’s original organization, were the one team that held the capacity to farm him out at this point—and yet they declined to do so, keeping him in the majors for the rest of the 2004 season while using him in just 23 games and 43 PAs.

All in all it was a weird fuss for so many ball clubs to be making over a guy with entirely ordinary ability. Once he’s finally gotten the chance to play regularly in the majors in 2006-2008, Bautista has proven to be a blandly unexciting journeyman.

Bruce Springsteen rules.

by birdman on Mar 16, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops, the Rays sold him to the Royals. They didn’t trade him.

Bruce Springsteen rules.

by birdman on Mar 16, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd have to brush up on my Rule V rules

But I’m pretty sure that if they don’t keep him on their major league roster they have to offer him back to the original club for $25,000 (or maybe $50K) and if the original team doesn’t want to do that, then you have to pass him through waivers before you can put him on your minor league club.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I’m pretty sure that if they don’t keep him on their major league roster they have to offer him back to the original club for $25,000 (or maybe $50K)

i think the team must put him on waivers first before offering him back to his original club. If he’s not claimed, the original club can pick him back up and send him to the minors w/o exposing him to waivers.

Bruce Springsteen rules.

by birdman on Mar 16, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here is what Baseball America says:
To prevent teams from drafting players willy-nilly, each Rule 5 pick must be kept in the major leagues the entire following season or be offered back to his former team for half of the $50,000 selection price. Few players are ready for such a jump, so only about 10-15 get picked each year. Fewer still last the whole season in the big leagues

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/columnists/askbarule5.html

That sounds to me that they only go on waivers if the original team doesn’t want them back. But that doesn’t jive with what you posted from THT about Bautista.

I’m definitely going to do some more investigating because I’d like in the future to be able to speak confidently about it.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok you're right birdman

here is a really great article on the Rule 5 draft at Purple Row.

http://www.purplerow.com/2009/3/26/809925/mlb-transactions-part-seve

Players selected in the major league phase of the draft cost $50,000 each and must remain on the selecting team’s 25 man active roster for the entire season or else the selecting team must put him on waivers. If a third club claims the player on waivers, the third club also must keep him in the majors all season. This is what happened in the case of Johan Santana, who was drafted by the Marlins from the Astros then sent to the Twins. If the player clears waivers, he must be offered back to his original club for $25,000.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastic news.

Nobody knows what he’ll end up doing in the future, but the more “inventory” (as Andy likes to say), the better.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Mar 16, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Did anyone not see this coming?

Поклон перед вашим капитаном!

by Knubles and Bits on Mar 16, 2010 5:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

and no one who reads this one

This was about as predictable as it gets.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Mar 16, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

correction

everyone who comments on roch’s blog. It’s a shame he gets all the weirdos. But better him than us.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We get them

they just get banned or run away feeling stupid

by daveh873 on Mar 16, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't banned anyone in forever

I sort of hate doing it, but it also sort of makes me feel drunk with power.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Mar 16, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did one banning on my birthday last year

Best gift I’ve gotten for my birthday in years.

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Mar 17, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would that be

A PHN fan who no longer had the protection of the Moderator Emeritus?

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on Mar 17, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I didnt know for certain it was going to happen

But I knew a lot of rule V picks end up back with their original teams. I’m glad the o’s got Johnson back

by Trebuchet on Mar 16, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

About 85% end up back with their teams

"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal

by duck on Mar 16, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

wOOt!

I’ll admit, I was unhappy about this one. Nice to see it work out.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Mar 16, 2010 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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