Wednesday Bird Droppings: PLAY BALL!!
by Camden Chat on Mar 3, 2010 7:01 AM EST
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The O's take on the Rays today at 1:05 pm, in a game that will preview the 2011 AL Wild Card game. The game will be broadcast locally on 105.7 so hopefully Joe Angel and I will have a lovely afternoon together. You might note that I created a Spring Training schedule on the right sidebar complete with any broadcast options. -Stacey
Guthrie eyes good start in O's exhibition opener - USATODAY.com
"....hopefully I can get us off to a nice start in our new home and help us to win our first game here." Thanks Jeremy, well said. But you forgot to mention that you have to take them one day at a time. And I bet you also want to give it your best shot, and the good Lord willing, things will work out. -zk
O's preseason games get going - baltimoresun.com
Some details of how the games will go these next few days, including projected starters. -zk
The Schmuck Stops Here: Orioles: Tuesday Morning briefing
"David Hernandez is also scheduled to pitch [today], and he'll unveil the new two-seam fastball that he has added to his repertoire to give hitters another part of the strike zone to worry about." -duck
In search of O's manager — the new Trembley - baltimoresun.com
Do you think the Orioles see Schmuck heading towards them to ask a few questions and have to refrain from rolling their eyes? -Stacey
Albers seeking to secure spot in 'pen | MLB.com: News
HEY HEY HEY. -zk
'He's a baseball guy' - baltimoresun.com
Everything you wanted to know about Jeff Datz, our new bench coach. -zk
The Schmuck Stops Here: Orioles: Luke looks ahead
Luke Scott declares our pitching to be better than last year. And given his love for guns, are YOU going to tell him he's wrong? -duck
Rays open spring slate against Orioles | raysbaseball.com: News
The Rays will board their bus at 9:15 am for the 1:05 game against Baltimore. The Rays' official site thought you needed to know that. -duck
For some teams, hiding hurlers from rivals in spring gets harder - USATODAY.com
Sure, the O's will face divisional rivals in half their games this spring. Somehow I don't think that's going to be what makes or breaks their year. -zk
Gavin Floyd impresses, Daniel Cabrera struggles in White Sox practice game - baltimoresun.com
zknower's ex-boyfriend had a rough go of it Tuesday. -duck
Former Pitcher Loewen Gets in Swing -- MLB FanHouse
Catching up with an old friend failed pitching prospect. -zk
Former Oriole Teams With Baltimore To Open Bereavement Camp - WBAL Radio
The Moyer Foundation has announced its plans to continue the national Camp Erin expansion of bereavement camps for children and teens who have lost someone close to them, by adding Baltimore to its list of new cities in 2010. -duck
O’s spring training: The 25 who will make it (#10) | WNST
Garrett Atkins is the #10 player who will (unfortunately) make it on the team in 2010. This blog is essentially how I feel about Garrett Atkins, except that I'll be shocked if he hits 17 home runs. I hope I'm wrong. -Stacey
Pay attention to the cracked streets and the broken homes
Some call it slums, some call it nice
I want to take you through a wasteland I like to call my home
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It makes me happy to read about Cabrera and Loewen
and know they are somebody else’s problem.
I still root for Loewen
He was talented just rushed and the injuries killed him. I dont blame him for leaving for Toronto when he had the chance. You’ve gotta respect someone that is willing to go back to the bottom and start again at something. He could have easily just left baseball and lived on his millions but he didn’t.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 3, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Wasn't he supposed to resign for the Orioles and went back on some informal agreement after he was released?
That would be my only reason for not really wanting to see him succeed, otherwise i couldnt care less. I’m pretty sure the Orioles were fully behind his switch to a position player, and had to release him in order to send him down to the minors. Then once he go this release, he jumped ship and signed with Toronto. Someone correct me if im wrong.
you're correct
But still, he wanted to live near home. I cant blame the guy, we were going to release him if he didnt anyways. He didnt do anything rediculous.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 3, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
I get that
And its not like i spend anytime actively rooting for him to fail, but its just hard to support him after that.
spelling is not my forte
and i’m stuck with IE which does not have spell check, deal with it
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 3, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
props for spelling "forte" correctly. ;)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
The real trick is apparently pronouncing it correctly.
I’ve heard that it’s really supposed to be pronounced “fort” (as in McHenry) rather than “for-tay” (as in the musical term for loud). I don’t know anybody who pronounces it the former way, though.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
i used to pronounce it the wrong way
and then my wife corrected me about 5,000 times & cured me.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
dictionary.com has is both ways
when you click the little “listen to” icon. I think I’ll continue to say “for-tay” because I don’t think anyone would understand what I meant if I said “fort.” Maybe that’s an indication that I should stop using the word altogether.
I think that's one of those things
where even if saying it “fort” is technically correct, 99.9% of the people who hear you say it that way will assume you’re saying it incorrectly, so you may as well just say it the other way.
NO. DON'T GIVE IN TO THEIR IGNORANCE
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
all good
I have friends who spell it that way intentionally on email trails to piss me off, so I’m hypersensitive to it.
YOU? Hypersensitive?
Never.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Yeah, they wear cups anyway
I guess maybe the pinch of the cup and your leg could hurt, but whatever.
you find my SIG annoying?
no matter how you feel about the play, that’s a funny quote.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
You're out of order! You're out of order!
The whole trial is out of order!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I think its because my fantasy teams
I named them REEDiculous, since then i’ve really struggled with the real spelling.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 3, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
that's me too
The red squiggle line is my savior. When I chat with friends in AIM or gchat and don’t have the red squiggle I always mess words up and feel like a dummy.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
I hate homophobic insults
but this still makes me laugh. Am I a bad person?
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
by Steve. on Mar 3, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I hate them more than you
but that makes me laugh in spite of myself. It always has.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
that is pure comedy.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
the peoples faces is really what makes it
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 3, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
I have nothing against either of them
and I wish them well—elsewhere. Although I confess that if Adam suprises us all and actually succeeds as a major league hitter—in our division—I will be pissed. I’ll also be more than a little annoyed if D-Cabs hits one of ours with a 96 mph fastball the direction of which he had only the vaguest idea when he threw it.
by fishoutawata on Mar 3, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
got my spring training tickets today!!
spring training here i come. im going to be at the march 25th game and the march 28th game. anyone else going to be there?
No
But I will be at this Sunday’s game if anyone else is attending. Please don’t let it be Alfredo Simon’s day to pitch…
I think you might be in trouble
It’s Guthrie today, Matusz tomorrow, Tillman Friday, and Millwood Saturday. Bergy isn’t ready to pitch in a game yet so it’ll probably be a scrub.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
AAAARGH!
I saw Eaton or hill probably 5 of the 8 or so games I went to last year. Please don’t let my trend of crap pitchers continue into this year.
There is like a 55% chance I'll end up in Florida this weekend
if I do I’ll definitely see Tillman on Friday night and Millwood on Saturday, so it won’t be a huge loss if I have to watch Simon on Sunday. Wish I could see Matusz though.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
I wouldn't mind seeing one of his starts
Granted, I do have his first start on a scorecard. And I have a note written about 5 months after that saying “TJ surgery, this guy is probably gone forever”
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
simon is supposed to actually be coming back nicely.
ha ha ha, doesn’t really help, does it?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Atkins is certainly the biggest question mark this spring.
He was signed as a “corner infielder” and everyone assumed our 3B placeholder until Tejada signed. Then he was shuffled over to 1B where he played before getting to the Rockies. Helton blocked him there, so he became a 3B. Anyway, Atkins is 30 yrs old. Not “on the wrong side of 30”. He had a so-so year in ‘08 and a bad year in ’09. If he and Crowley can’t revive his batting by May, I suspect he will be done. If that’s the case, we will see Snyder, Aubrey or Hughes at 1B in Baltimore. BUT…. predicting and projecting what we will get out of Garrett Atkins this year is not productive or useful. He and Crowley are going to try to fix his stroke and we are simply going to have to wait to see if it works. I have no problem with waiting since our alternatives are limited at this point. I don’t care about fantasy baseball rosters, so I’m willing to be somewhat patient and see how it goes. I’m convinced his fielding will be just fine. He has played there before and some say he is more natural there anyway. If he hits, he is a good sign. If not, we go on to plan “A” a little earlier than we thought. That’s all.
Predicting and projecting what we will get out of anyone this year is not productive or useful.
We’re fans. What else exactly are we supposed to be doing right now?
well in a sense, i agree with fudd
we spend ridiculous amounts of time telling ourselves that guys like atkins are going to suck before he’s even played.
by twistedlogic on Mar 3, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Well he sucked last year
and he’s had declining production the last three.
Don’t get me wrong, I can’t wait for baseball season to start so we have something else to talk about. But in the meantime, like Dave said, what else should we do right now?
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
bask in the warmth of the knowledge that we still have a few more weeks before watching atkins and wiggy hack full-time
by twistedlogic on Mar 3, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Well yea, I see the point
but that’s what we do as fans. If we all just sat around waiting for things to play out we’d have nothing to do all winter. It’s useless, but it’s just entertainment.
The only thing more productive
than debating how players will do this season would be for me to do actual work…so I’ll continue enjoying this distraction until we get some box scores (later today!)
I was really hoping the broadcast options would to include a few Armed Forces Radio - Europe games
So I could start getting up at 3:30 to listen— y’know, training for the regular season.
Did I mention that west coast night games rock?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Yeah, West Coast games suck.
I have to get to bed around 10 these days, so I’ll be able to watch East Coast games, but anything in other time zones is out. Oh well.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
For those of us in the wilderness,
west coast games are the tits.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I'm wondering if you'll be able to stream the games from 105.7 on the internet
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 3, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
i'd think we can
they’re not covered by mlb.com i don’t think.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Last year it worked
so I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
MLB locks down that shit
I never got a game off the 105.7 website last year – had to pop for MLB At-Bat for iPhone. Ended up glad I did.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Mar 3, 2010 4:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
they've played some ST games before
unless I’m totally losing my mind.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
For anyone interested
John Sickels is doing one of his semi-regular “ask any question” threads
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/3/3/1333782/all-questions-answered-thread
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
no love for the green day quote?
where’s dc o’s fan when you need her?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
damned algebra.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
this is not news,
but that Schmuck article about “the new Trembley” is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever read. It’s 3-4 minutes of my life I’ll never get back. The sad thing is I get the impression he thinks he’s being really clever/ironic.
Why, oh WHY can’t we have real reporters for this team, especially at ST?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I've only watched season 5 once
A friend of mine just got the complete series on dvd though so I think I’m going to re-watch them with her. I have them all on DVD as well but it’ll be fun watching with someone who has never seen them.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
Yeah I've got the DVDs
I love rewatching it. I’m trying to change my opinion of Season 5 this time around.
I've rewatched 1-4 a number of times
Season 4 just once I think, those kids just bum me out. I got season 5 on DVD for Christmas the year after it aired and haven’t even unwrapped it yet.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
I've enjoyed watching that one kid on FNL
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I haven't watched FNL yet
Waiting for it to come on NBC.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
well this is a first
friday night lights are being mentioned, but WW is nowhere to be seen.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 3, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
I like 3 or 4 the most
4 was definitely the most emotional for me, but the overall plot of 3 was just amazing.
Every time I start talking about the wire I get this intense urge to re-watch. I have a lot in my TV queue right now, though.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
I think those kids
were incredible actors – that’s what clinches season 4 for me.
I actually like season 2 more than season 3, but it’s really close.
HATED season 2.
The worst, IMHO.
Couldn’t stand the horrible horrible actor who played Ziggy.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
hmmm.
for me,
1>4>5>3>2
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I like to rank!
(3=4)>1>2>5
I’m surprised you like 5 more than 3, z.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
5 and 3 are kind of the same in my book
they’re both fine, there’s a real fall-off after 4. the political campaign in 3 was ridiculously unrealistic at times.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
You know you're right
about the campaign. I don’t even think of that when I think of season three. I think of the Stinger/Avon showdown and the rise of Marlo.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
ahhh, yes. good point.
that vaults 3 ahead.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Remember when I called him Stinger?
Oops.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
Have you watched it more than once?
Just wondering. If you hate it, you hate it, obviously. But I couldn’t even get through it the first time. The writers and actors were just so good in season one that it seemed a disservice to leave those plots. But after I’d gone back and re-watched I found it to be very good.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
there's redeemable stuff in it.
but a lot of it is just bad. not on a par with the other 4 seasons.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
This is not the answer
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
why titov,
isn’t that your paper?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Anyone listen to the new Gorillaz yet?
I’m loving it so far, but it might be a little too out there for a lot of people
Its a lot less radio-friendly than Demon Days
I’m not sure theres even a ‘Clint Eastwood’ to get it much airplay like the first album.
well even the radio friendly gorillaz songs are great
and maybe radio-friendly isnt even the right word, there’s usually at least a few songs that are more accessible than the rest. This one seems to be top to bottom to be a more challenging listen.
Yeah, challenging is the right word
I actually just turned it off to listen to some Monsters of Folk. Maybe I’ll consume it in ten-minute chunks and formulate an opinion when I’m done.
i am listening to this now
and LOVING it.
wish i could play it through itunes so it would stream to my stereo
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
FUCK!
I just accidentally closed that window and now have to start the album over.
EPIC FAIL.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
my two most recent discoveries
Mazzy Star and Portishead
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
i don't know massive attack
should i?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Well, if you're just discovering Portishead (which i dont mean as a bad thing), probably not
They pretty much started trip-hop, which a the mix of slowed-down electronica and hip-hop. Portishead and Massive Attack are probably the two most famous trip-hop groups.
The House theme song is a instrumental version of a Massive Attack song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7K72X4eo_s
Massive Attack, Live from Abbey Road:
http://vimeo.com/7354956
thanks. i will check these out.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I think they do the House theme
Could be wrong, but if you watch the show you’d recognize one of their songs
by tjk on Mar 3, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
see above lol
The House theme song is a instrumental version of a Massive Attack song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7K72X4eo_s
Awww z, welcome to Mazzy Star
a staple of my teen years. If you continue to dig, I suggest checking out Hope Sandoval and the Warm Inventions. They only released one album to my knowledge but it’s of the same ilk.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
Stylo is the cat's meow.
That’s all I’ve heard, but it is the shiznit. I’m of the mind that all bands should be imaginary.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
ESPN.com's new blog (called TMI) loves Brad Bergesen.
It’s Insider-only, but some highlights:
His 3.43 ERA was the lowest by an Orioles starter in his first big-league season since Mike Mussina in 1991 (min. 10 starts).
…
Bergesen was 7-1 at home with a 2.68 ERA, the lowest by an O’s starter (min. 10 starts) since Mussina’s 2.65 mark in 1992, the park’s inaugural season.
I don’t think they’re saying he’ll be as good as Moose, but regardless, his rookie season was really, really good. The article is very bullish on him, even if it makes a bit of fun over the whole commercial fiasco.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
Dude got outs. Hard to argue with the results.
Hope it continues.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
THE FAN PREGAME NOW!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
ooh thanks, z!
I also put up a game thread for anyone who is listening.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
fuck.
now they’re on something else. wha happen?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
You get pre-game and post-game
But not the game.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Mar 3, 2010 4:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Anyone else a tad ruffled that Miggi still hasn't bothered to consult any other converted 3Bmen?
I kinda feel like that should have been a given.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
ruffled? yes.
surprised? not one whit.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Do we know that he hasn't?
I’m not saying that he has, but do we know?
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
“No, I haven’t talked to anybody,‘’ he said, "but I’ll ask anybody. Whenever I see a third baseman, I’m going to ask a question. I not going to just ask the guys who are superstars."
He’s the guy that put it out there that he’d call Cal & A-Rod to pick their brains. And he still hasn’t done it. I just think that’s flakey.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
I think
And this is all based on memory so I could be wrong, but at Miggi’s press conference someone asked him if he was going to talk to Cal or A-Rod or anyone and he was like, “sure, sure.” He didn’t volunteer it. What was he gonna say?
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
That's how I remember it, too
It got spun as “He’s gonna work so hard! He’s gonna call these hall of famers! He’s the ultimate team player!” and I was all like “VOMIT!”
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
classic.
classic schmuck stupidity:
Give Tejada credit for being a little more analytical than the media in this case. Though it might be nice to get some advice from the guys who switched to third base late in their careers, it might make more sense to talk to guys who have played the position all their lives.
Um, no.
Let’s get “analytical”, Schmucky. Which makes more sense? Asking someone how to play third base (and getting a justifiably stupid look in return)? Or asking a guy who’s moved from SS to 3B (and therefore successfully done exactly what you’re trying to do) what was his hardest adjustment in making the switch (and maybe actually getting something useful in response).
(shoots self in head with finger)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Meh
I feel like it just takes practice to make that switch
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 3, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
i agree
i mean, what is he gonna ask? “hey, please give me some of your folksy wisdom on the switch to 3b?”
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