Tuesday Bird Droppings
by duck on Mar 30, 2010 7:40 AM EDT
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PrintJust the news that's fit to print today as real life has intruded again. So here we go....
The Associated Press: Yankees hit 4 homers in 11-7 win over Orioles
Jeremy Guthrie didn't look so hot, again, and the O's lose to the Yankees. But at least Mark Teixeira got a boo-boo on his elbow in return. -duck
Orioles RHP Uehara likely to start season on DL - USATODAY.com
Baltimore Orioles reliever Koji Uehara is preparing for another trip to the disabled list - this time with a strained left hamstring. -duck
Millwood gets O's Opening Day nod | MLB.com: News
Dave Trembley announced on Monday that veteran right-hander Kevin Millwood will get the ball on April 6 in the season opener against the Rays at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg. -duck
Former Oriole Hoiles to host local radio show - Baltimore Sun
Chris Hoiles gets his own sports talk radio show on Fox Sports 1370 AM. Hopefully, he'll take the toothpick out long enough to be understood. -duck
Orioles drawing record-breaking crowds for home games - WWSB ABC 7 Florida
Last night's Yankees game set a single-game attendance record at Ed Smith Stadium. Sarasota loves its spring baseball. -duck
The Schmuck Stops Here: Live Orioles chat with Peter Schmuck at noon Tuesday
Need I say more? Wear your favorite loud Hawaiian shirt and check in from a Denny's. -duck
Bedard gets back on mound for Mariners - The Boston Globe
It's not full-speed throwing, and he won't be back in the rotation next week, but Erik Bedard threw 20 pitches from the stretch yesterday. Good for him. -duck
Bucs claim hurler Penn off waivers | MLB.com: News
The Pirates claimed former Orioles pitcher Hayden Penn off waivers on Monday afternoon. So that March unemployment number goes down just a little more. -duck
Five reasons relegation wouldn't work in Major League Baseball - Big League Stew - Yahoo! Sports
BLS gives some compelling reasons why relegation, English Premier League-style, won't work for MLB. Didn't know only four different teams have won their championship since 1992. Throw out Blackburn's surprise win and it's three. -duck
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re: floating realignment or relegation, or whatever they’re calling it these days
baseball really is playing with fire these days. the game is healthy, it just got a handle on the steroids mess and overall — with Tampa and Philly and Colorado — there has been a nice mix of Teams in the postseason.
so what’s the problem? where are these doomsday scenarios coming from?
I think it’s the corrosive effect that Fox has on all things, cheapening them, playing for the moment instead of the long term and focusing only on the baubles instead of the substance.
no, relegation is not the answer. if the Rays can go to the Series, anybody can.
And don’t even get me started on replay.
Blame it on Fox
Thats hillarious. I hate to break it to you but all media has that “corrosive effect”. The only difference between the stations is the slant they put to play to their particular audience.
The media will always talk about these things, salary cap, realignment etc. Wait until the season starts and then people will quit talking about these things.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 30, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Any different than ESPN?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
same species of predator
but fox has the playoffs and the bigger saturday audience
also, espn does in fact devote a good bit of programming on baseball tonight to other teams….
still though, espn is certainly no innocent in this matter
this
Fox’s obsession with MFY/PHN is remarkable but no different from the other stations, thats my argument and i’m sticking to it.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 30, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I would love relegation to make into American sports
but it would never ever happen. Owners have too much invested in teams to ever agree to it.
You would have to sever the minor league teams and handle player development in a different way.
Like i said, its totally impractical. but i like the concept
The Orioles in particular have an argument
They don’t have the resources to pay for exhorbitant contracts, yet they make too much to benefit from revenue sharing. NYY and BOS have the extra resources, TOR and TB get free cash. The O’s have neither.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Easier to stop sucking
when you get free $$$ from the MLB office.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
that's my point. who said anything about easy.
we care because it’s hard and precisely because it’s hard
But it's UNFAIRLY hard for the Orioles
They don’t have the resources of NYY and BOS, and they don’t get the help that TOR and TB get. TOR and TB make a profit before they sell a ticket.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Totally disagree
Just because a few teams have managed to get into the playoffs that we’re not used to seeing there and a few have even managed to win, doesn’t mean there is parity. The playoffs are mostly a crap shoot, but looking at the best teams in the regular season over the last 10 years, when have the yankees and red sox not been in the top 3?
well that's true .... the yanks and sox are good teams
but it’s not like it’s the same 6 teams year in and year out
anyway. i know i sound dumb blaming fox but i don’t care. i think they’re a big part of the problem. they are evil and insidious.
and even worse, tim mccarver is boring.
No - it's not the same 6 teams year in and year out.
it’s the same 2 teams year in and year out! With some other sprinkling of other rich teams (like the Phils or the Dodgers).
Are playoffs really a crapshot?
From 2000 to 2010, seven out of eleven AL pennant winners came from the AL East. AL East teams that are good enough for a division title/wild card seem better than the rest of the league.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on Mar 30, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Bergesen will start Camden Yards Opener.
The projected rotation in yesterday’s Sun said Millwood, Guts, Matusz, Bergesen, probably Hernandez.
I told ya’ll so.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
I just want to officially express my disgust
that Chris Tillman didn’t make the roster, but Jason Berken and David Hernandez did based only on their respective springs. That is all.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Tillman's not a reliever
And Berken just might be.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I'd prefer Hernandez in the pen and Tillman in the rotation
than an option involving Berken on the team.
For the spring....
Hernandez has been a better starter than CT and Berken’s been might effective as well. Tillman, based on spring numbers, is the 3rd best RIGHT NOW in that group. Let’s face it, these 5 starters aren’t written in stone. I bet we don’t get through April with this rotation. Tillman will have his chance to earn his way back in, and by Mid-July, he’ll be getting the ball every 5th day.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I also look at moving Hernandez to the pen as a positive move, not a punishment
I really want to see what he can do when he only has to work an inning or two
I’d like to see if he can actually be a starter before relegating him to the pen for the rest of his career. He got his feet wet last year, so give him one more shot with a relatively short leash and see what he does. If in 6 weeks he’s getting shelled, then you re-evaluate.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 30, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree with this.
With his stuff, there’s no reason he can’t be a good starter and it seems just as silly to abandon that plan based on 4 months in the majors as it does to make any decisions based on spring training.
Berken's on the team?
AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
In one game as a freshman at Miami, Wieters hit a two-run homer in the top of the ninth to put the Yellow Jackets ahead, then pitched the bottom of the ninth for the save. On that day, the God nickname was bestowed. - Sports Illustrated
Unofficial Leader of the Brain Matusz For ROY Campaign
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 30, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year figured in, too
Tillman and Hernandez had rough stretched last year, while Berken had only 1 really good start. It’s not like any of the 3 showed much last year. Thsi spring, Berken and Hernandez look better, and Tillman hasn’t looked as good. And Hernandez and Tillman had similar IP this spring. Hernandez grabbed the opportunity, Tillman didn’t.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
When camp broke
we all figured Tillman was the fifth starter. He was acknowledged as the heavy favorite because a) he was the best of the three last year, b) has the brightest future, and c) would benefit the most from taking his lumps now, with a bevy of veterans surrounding him and in a situation from winning is not the top priority.
And the only reason he won’t make the team is because he had a bad outing the other night. One bad outing, and he can’t be the 5th starter.
I don’t necessarily disagree with the verdict (although, deep down, I do), it’s the process that it’s agonizingly irritating to me.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I disagree
His spring numbers in TOTAL don’t match up to Hernandez. Yeah, a little too much was made of one outing, but WHO was assuming Tillman was 5th? Us on the Internet? Reporters? Did the team see it as much of a slam dunk as we did? Not sure they did.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Before his last start
Trembley told everyone that Tillman had won the spot. Then he pitched bad, and Hernandez struck out those three Red Sox, and viola! Last minute mind changed!
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I don't remember it that way
But I’m ADD as all hell, so I’d appreciate a reminder in the way of Diamond Dave quotes where he said that.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
I'm not sure Trembley is the guy making these calls, nor should he be
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 30, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
but whoever is doing it is using Spring Training stats as a basis for their decision, and that makes me ANGRY
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
You don't think ST results should be factored in at all?
I wouldn’t put too much faith in spring training stats, but when you’re talking about young pitchers who should be fighting for a job, you have to put a little stock in them.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 30, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think ST results should be factored in at all, yes
I really, really don’t.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
And the only reason he won’t make the team is because he had a bad outing the other night. One bad outing, and he can’t be the 5th starter.
It’s not that he can’t be our 5th starter, it’s that he won’t be our 5th starter to start the season. Tillman is still in the organization and will most likely be starting sometime this year. Sending him down to AAA makes the most sense to me. He’ll likely be the next starter called up.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 30, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it was the right move
Tillman wasn’t any better than DH last year. And I’d still like to give him one more shot at being a starter, and the only way to do it was to start him now.
Tillman is still only 22 and has options left, so there is no big downside for sending him down to AAA to at least start the year.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 30, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus
if DH does well in the first couple of months, we can always trade him to the Mets
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Take it easy
CT’s 21 years old! Some time at AAA won’t kill him. He needs to learn to keep the ball down and then he’ll be fine.
He's back!
http://twitter.com/Britt_Ghiroli/status/11304943862
our team’s car jumping ability has been restored.
Can't access Twitter
Gathright’s back, I assume?
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
yeah, minor league deal
will probably get some PT for the remaining spring training games to rest the players who will actually make the tam.
Also reporting that Tatum is likely to win the back up job
Whispers around camp are the Os are high on Tatums throwing arm and he works well w. pitchers. He’s gonna be the backup.
Obviously, they didn't base it on offsenive numbers
Moeller’s were WAY better this spring.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
meh
backup catcher doesn’t really need to have offensive skills
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
And in Moeller's case
we KNOW he sucks offensively. Even if he was batting .750 with a couple jacks, you know that’s crap.He has enough of a track record to not even take his spring offensive numbers into account.
Looks like it's confirmed.
Moeller is out. They told him yesterday. #orioles go with tatum
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
he better be mediocre
I’m sick of going to the Sunday games and seeing some Joe Blow instead of Wieters, I want a mediorce catcher if I can’t get SHJ.
In one game as a freshman at Miami, Wieters hit a two-run homer in the top of the ninth to put the Yellow Jackets ahead, then pitched the bottom of the ninth for the save. On that day, the God nickname was bestowed. - Sports Illustrated
Unofficial Leader of the Brain Matusz For ROY Campaign
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 30, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, this is how I will cope
It seems feasible that the Orioles didn’t want Chris Tillman to have any part of the first part of the schedule and David Hernandez’s spring gives them a convenient excuse to keep Tillman out of the way of the beasts of the east.
Nobody contradict this – I need this. This is how I can live with the decision.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
i'd rather that sacrificial lamb be alfredo simon or somethin
but then that’d be giving it away
by twistedlogic on Mar 30, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
well, you do want to give DH a shot
better now than never, I guess.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
true
but i’d feel bad if he failed. he seems like a nice dude, although i guess we dont pay him to be nice. we pay him to pitch.
by twistedlogic on Mar 30, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And the next guy will probably be a nice dude, too
or, failing that, the next guy will be fucking awesome like Erik Bedard
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
If I had to take away one thing I learned from the seder last night
It would have to be the meaning of a proctologist. Yes, in the words of the host of the evening, a proctologist is “an ass grabber.”
Complaining is good for you as long as you're not complaining to the person you're complaining about. - Lynn Johnston (I don't know who that is...but it's a good quote.)
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