Thursday Bird Droppings
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PrintVideo Highlights from yesterday's game
Check out Nick Markakis' HR, Scott Moore's HR, and both of Rhyne Hughes' HRs. Sadly no footage of Josh Bell. Man it's good to see baseball. -Stacey
Next up: Brian Matusz
Brian Matusz is fired up and ready to go! We won't get to see or hear it though, as it's not being broadcast anywhere. -Stacey
Post Game Notes
The plate umpire warned benches in Spring Training? Don't worry, ump, I'm guessing Matt Albers didn't hit him on purpose. Lotsa Trembley quotes in here. -Stacey
Spoone-fed a blog entry
Chorye Spoone is in the best shape of his life. Or at least the best shape of his life since having surgery. -Stacey
Reimold and Bergesen
Nolan didn't play today as he's easing into the lineup, but he insists his sore Achilles is nothing to worry about. Meanwhile, Bergy is doing well and could start a game next week. -Stacey
Prospect Bell homers from both sides | orioles.com: News
JOSH BELL IS THE BEST THING IN THE HISTORY OF EVER. -Stacey
Tejada enjoying transition to third base | orioles.com: News
Good news, guys. They're NOT trying to turn Miguel Tejada into Brooks Robinson. -Stacey
Baseball Prospectus | Top 101 Prospects
Kevin Goldstein released his top 101 prospect list with the four usual Orioles suspects making the list. Matusz at 18, Bell at 39, Arrieta at 70, and Britton at 73. -Stacey
Orioles tidbits from Kevin Goldstein's chat
Every O's related question from yesterday's chat by BP's Kevin Goldstein. -Stacey
Fans give Baltimore a warm welcome at Ed Smith Stadium
The Orioles and the city of Sarasota are getting on like gangbusters. -Stacey
On this day in Camden Chat history...zk gives a glowing review of his Danny Cabrera's first ST outing of 2007, duck thinks that the Orioles alienated Nick Markakis in 2008, SC talks about George Sherrill in 2009...sorta, I bought these awesome shoes (which are a little too big by the way. I still wear them) and I, also, uh, laugh at the idea of Miguel Tejada returning to Baltimore. -Stacey
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josh bell's tats could beat up aubrey huff & ty von wiggles
how can there be no footage of his 1st inning bomb? i desperately wish to see that.
THose are some SERIOUS sleeves he's rockin'
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Matusz should be hire on that list
He’s more valuable than Feliz, whose role on the staff has yet to be figured out. If he turns into a dominant ace, sure, he’s better than Matusz, but if the dude turns into a shut down closer, Matusz has more value…right?
He has Kyle Drabek over Brian Matusz? Really?
He must love Drabek or hate Matusz, considering that a lot of places are saying Drabek may only be a good #3 while the consensus on Matusz is that he’s a #2 at worst and an unconventional #1 at best.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
View the list as KG's personal favorite prospects
And its not that strange. Chapmen at 10, maybe he is just a sucker for a power arm i guess.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 4, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
How about this???
If that kid (Bell) keeps hiting like that they should play him at third and put Miggy back at SS.
Ding ding ding
We have a winner…..
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Oh I know
but he did qualify it with “If”. I mean if the kid completely tears up ST you might think about breaking camp with him. If that did happen, I rather lose Atkins than Tejada.
Happened with Markakis
He wasn’t supposed to make the club, but after his ST, they couldn’t NOT take him north.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
True
but who was his competition that spring? Jay Gibbons and David Newhan? Not quite Miguel Tejada.
Also, uber-conservative Andy MacPhail is in charge now, and I highly doubt that he drops Atkins or Tejada for Josh Bell right off a red hot/ice cold spring training. As well he shouldn’t (although I’m pro-dropping Atkins, just not pro-promoting Bell)
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I'd think Bell
would have to hit around .800 with a 1.400 OPS to go north, personally. He’d have to be Bae Ruth – The Sequel. You’re right, too mush $$$ in Atkins and Tejada, not as much when Markakis made the move. I’m just saying it’s been done, although not quite the same context.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
That it did...
how did that turn out for us again?
Nah, I’m in no rush for Bell. If he pushes the issue, great, but whatever they think is best is ok with me. He could probably use some work in AAA closing the gap between his L/R splits anyway.
I really hope they don't bring him up to the bigs, regardless of his spring.
Of course, I want him to do well in ST and all that. But even if he looks good against lefties this spring, it’s bound to be such a small sample size that it doesn’t mean anything. Most hitters who come up say that the difference between minor and major league lefties is much bigger than that between minor and major league righties. He’s struggled with AA lefties, so it’s safe to assume that major league lefties will simply destroy him.
I think he really needs most of the season to learn to hit lefties, however he ends up doing it. And fortunately, it looks like MacPhail is set on having Bell do that in AAA and let Miggy be the 3B at least until September.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
I find that seriously hard to visualize
Miggi at first, not sending Garrett on his way.
If Bell makes the team out of spring training,
the best solution is to trade Luke. Let Tejada play DH, 1B, some 3B. Also helps create a spot for Reimold to DH some.
Some ESPN goodness
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=300303101
I watched the highlight video hoping for some Bell highlights. Jason Ruggiano of the Rays runs into Cesar Izturis, which they mispronounced “Reid Brignac”. Oops.
Terps
everyone at the gym this morning was buzzing about the Terps. Can’t wait until that kind of buzz surrounds the O’s. I’m just afraid it never will.
that picture could be posted here every day
and i would rec it everytime
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Mar 4, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Amen
There isn’t enough hate in the world for me to allocate between the Red Sox/Yanks, Duke, Steeler/Pats, Cavaliers and Penguins…….
They make my Top 7 hate list any day of the week.
Love the pic.
by Wieters Wieners on Mar 4, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Cuz I love the Wizards...
and by default hate everything Lebron.
by Wieters Wieners on Mar 4, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Oh those are fun
In order:
Yankees
Cowboys
Red Sox
Eagles
Rangers
Patriots
Redskins
Just missing the cut: Flyers, Knicks.
Top 7 most hated fan bases:
Red Sox
Cowboys
Yankees
Patriots
Rangers
Eagles
Flyers
I forgot...
also just missing the cut: Notre Dame and Michigan. I have no idea why I dont like Michigan though.
Also
The NY Rangers, not Texas. And Yankees and Cowboys fan bases are interchangable between 2 and 3 really.
can someone please explain that joke?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 4, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
i love the comment underneath it from jobe
luke scott is only going to get worse in left field
well, his uz fucking r says hes great!
It isn't just UZR that thinks Scott is/was a fine fielder
The superior plus/minus thought pretty highly of Scott while he was a starter.
then again…let’s not start a huge thing about defensive metrics. It’s fucking left field. Everyone this side of Adam Dunn can get away with playing out there.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
What an inspiring, idiotically overly-simplified blanket statement
I approve.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
I already packed some for you
IN YOUR LUNCHBOX! For you to eat at SCHOOL! Because “school” is something you had done to you! Oh! STEP!
okay
yankees
steelers
dook
red sox
dedskins
caps
flyers
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 4, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Funny story
The game I got kicked out of last year (vs Boston) of course, I earlier met Vasquez and chatted him and his gf up for awhile. He said he was a big Os fan. But who knows…
by Wieters Wieners on Mar 4, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions
Is there anyone you haven't met at Camden Yards?
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Mar 4, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
lol
What can I say? Im a social guy.
by Wieters Wieners on Mar 4, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
While looking at posts about Josh Bell...
This article from the astro’s blog talks about possible trades for roy oswalt and lists baltimore as a potential landing spot. He mentions Arrieta, Erbe and Snyder as prospects for the deal, but then mentions his orioles fan friend who doesn’t know any of them…
Jewel to the trade: RHP Jake Arrieta, RHP Brandon Erbe, 1B Brandon Snyder – I have a friend who’s a long-time Orioles fan from back when the Robinson Boys were winning the World Series. I asked him about these three guys and he had no clue who they were. In fact, he thought they might have been students who had come by our office. Not a great sign
Ignoring the fact that this deal is a complete joke. How has a real orioles fan not heard of these guys, and two of them make it onto top prospect lists regularly.
I love that system, though
Let’s judge trades by how some friend of mine who used to follow the trading team back in the 60s thinks about the prospects coming back. That’s delightful.
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
Absolutely
I would love to be watching ESPN and have one of the anchors introduce their father in law who once went to a Blue Jays game in 1992 to talk about the Halladay trade.
Do you think his friend is Kevin Cowherd?
ZING!
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Mar 4, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
It would explain a lot about Houston's trading philosophy....
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
Top 7 hated teams (fan bases)
I want this on its own thread or who I would least like to win a championshp.
1) Boston Red Sox
2) Pittsburgh Steelers
3) Cleveland Cavaliers
4) Duke Blue Devils
5) New York Yankees
6) New England Patriots
7) Pittsburgh Penguins
by Wieters Wieners on Mar 4, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions
Just missing the cut:
Cowboys, Giants, Ohio State Football
by Wieters Wieners on Mar 4, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
I'm really embarassed by my DC post
but I love this discussion of Risk from the old Tejada story.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
What DC post?
and best 20/20 hindsight quoke goes to dkdc for:
“I would say That I have about as good a chance as Tejada of playing with the Orioles in the future.”
my review of daniel cabrera's ST in the history section above
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
It was 2007.
Everyone was hoping he’d finally get it together during that period of time.
After the first blush of sin comes it's indifference. - Henry David Theoreau.
My favorite part about your DC post
Is that he walked 2 batters in two innings and you were like, “the lack of walks was encouraging.” That’s a 9.0 BB/9! Although I understand where you were coming from, having once attended a game where Daniel Cabrera walked 6 Red Sox in the first inning of the game, then in the second walked another and threw a wild pitch before they took him out.
March 4th wasn’t a banner day for any of us it seems, between your Danny love and duck thinking Markakis was going to hightail it out of Baltimore and me mocking the very idea of Tejada being an Oriole again.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
In my defense
The O’s did give Nick 66 Million reasons to stay. ..
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
by duck on Mar 4, 2010 5:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
no, you mis-read.
he walked nobody and K’d two batters.
thanks for playing, though.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
so...
STEP!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
You should learn to line up your stats better
That 2 is right under the BB. Although it does make what you’re saying make much more sense. Why are you embarrassed then? It was a good outing.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
i couldn't get the monotype thing to work when i posted that.
i’m embarrased that i decided to read a shit ton of optimism into 2 innings of a ST game.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
*embarrassed
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
nah, that's what Spring Training is for
Especially for players like Danny Cabrera who showed so much promise mixed with so much ridiculousness.
"It feels like home,’’ Pie said. "All my friends are here."
Baseball Tonight is in Sarasota this afternoon (3:30)
Just in case you want to hear Kruk mispronounce everyone’s name.
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 4, 2010 12:53 PM EST reply actions
Leadoff homer Felix Pie!!!
Here we go again!
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
i thought this game wasn't broadcast?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I just checked the box score on MLB.com
we have an all star lineup out there today, btw.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2010_03_04_balmlb_tbamlb_1
Brian Matusz
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
by BirdFanInPhilly on Mar 4, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
ah good point
didnt even pay attention to that. i guess i was too disgusted with wiggles battin cleanup
I did
Then I put a parlay on Cards over Mets and Mariners over Padres. Mets are already winning 3-0.
Well, even if Greinke is going
it’s probably only 2 innings. I’d take Texas as the underdog, definitely.
Eh
i’d imagine he’d have to be pitching if the Royals are the favorites, but still. It’s 2 innings. What’s the line?
Yea, I like that Seattle matchup too
I figure it’s gotta be Hernandez or Lee pitching today and SD isn’t very good offensively outside of Gonzalez anyway.
Yea it is
but it’s alot more fun then betting on women’s soccer or whatever the hell i’ve been doing recently.
Remember when he hit his first home run in Texas last year?
He sprinted around the bags so quickly. It was…ah…
you know, there’s a word for it, but it isn’t coming to mind. Cute isn’t quite right, awesome definitely is it…hmmm…
Bedard says he doesn't care and thinks goals are pointless.
no, that's fat person that's going to get an oscar
oh you mean adjectives…
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 4, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Simpsons did it!
I got the joke, I just didn’t know how to respond in a similarly witty manner, so I just reiterated my original point. Sry :/
the movie.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 4, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Does this help?
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 4, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
He's 12 or whatever
He can’t. It’s not in their DNA.
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
done.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Brian Matusz
3 up, 3 down, 3 K’s
"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle
Holy crap.
Not cheapies, either. Crawford and Longoria.
Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.
O's going down in order, too
after the Pie HR, of course. No Ks, though. Wow, following a game via a box score sucks.
I can't acess the box scores at work.
I’m following it by reading posts written by people who are following the box scores.
After the first blush of sin comes it's indifference. - Henry David Theoreau.
roch has been updating as well.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Ask and you shall receive
There is now a gamethread for this game located here.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
This is why I love CC
I was randomly reading comments on ESPN about the Phils-Yanks ST game. Here’s one exchange:
Phillies fan: Yankees fans = worst fans in sports… your all a joke! Your like the rich kid on the block whos daddy bought him a Porsche, that brags to the poor kid next door who had to work to buy his car! I PRAY baseball gets a salary cap… if it does and the Yankees have to play by the same rules, then it will take you 500 years to win another 27 championships!
Yankees fan: i’d rather wait 500 years for another 27, than waiting 500 years for another what 2? phillies suck and your like the poor kid whose on wealthfare and using food stamps, you can’t win an argument against a yankees fan were better than normal fans and we know it.
Now THAT is some quality contribution.
your that poor kid on welfare using food stamps
what the hell did that have to do with the argument?
It's quality stuff
But seriously, people like this just ruin life in general. You can’t have an intelligent argument with someone that is not intelligent. I remember arguing the Bush-Kerry race once with someone in college and their logic was “at least my guy can throw a football”. I mean, really? If you want to call someone a “poor kid on wellfare” to refute the statement that Yankees fans are the worst in sports, then by all means go on being a douchebag.
and were instead of we're.
After the first blush of sin comes it's indifference. - Henry David Theoreau.
whos—>whose
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Milton Bradley: unapologetic douchebag
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=4965307
Check out some of the logic employed by Bradley. Mind-boggling.
The terps are a sweet 16 team.
There’s no question about it, if you can go .750 in the ACC (granted, we still have UVa to deal with) you make a deep run.
Don't give up, don't ever give up. - Jim Valvano
Fear The Turtle!!
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Mar 4, 2010 6:29 PM EST reply actions
My tax class just got a lot more interesting
Someone went to the reception going on upstairs and stole a few bottles of wine, which are now being passed around the room
law school is such fun
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I wouldn't go that far
but school is definitely different when you know everyone is of legal drinking age.
yea
that would NEVER happen in any of my classes and everyone in them is of legal drinking age as well
bummer
Quite a few of my seminars involved beer. Hell, one class was actually held in a bar one week.
man this isnt fair
why cant my classes be cool like that. i’ve only had one professor that would be okay with that (he bought us beer once for having the best presentation or something silly like that)
HS Wrestling tournament seeding meetings held in bars
THOSE are classics. Don’t happen often, but when they do…
"The moment you stop thinking you're the best, it's time for you to get out the game." -'King' Mo Lawal
on that note
fuck seton hall/rutgers. they scored like 4597402713 points in the last like 2 mins of the game. i was gonna nail that parlay.
by twistedlogic on Mar 4, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
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