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Guthrie's Lefty/Righty Hit Location Splits UPDATED

So I've been playing around with the MLB Gameday BIP Location app since finding via Baseball Analysts

For those who don't want to click the link it's basically a java? app that allows somebody to find out where all the balls put into play were fielded. Currently one can sort by individual pitcher/hitter, by ballpark and can overlay a player's hits from one ballpark to another (like maybe Atkins although that's another post) and can be sorted by type of batted ball such as ground out, fly out, single, double etc.

 

One limitation that this data has is that it marks the point where the ball was FIELDED not where it was hit. Hence if you fool around the site you're going to see a lot of singles located where the outfielders would be positioned. These are probably balls that got through the infield defense.

I wanted to take a look at Jeremy Guthrie, see if maybe there was something obvious about the hits he gave up last year.

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This is Guthrie's hits data against left-handed hitterss (LHH) at Camden Yards:

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via http://www.katron.org/projects/baseball/hit-location/ but saved via photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net

 

This is Guthrie's hit data against right-handed hitters (RHH) at Camden Yards:

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via http://www.katron.org/projects/baseball/hit-location/ but saved via photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net 

 

 

The first thing that popped out to me was just how few righties grounded out to second/first. Almost all the balls are to shortstop and third especially compared to how evenly split his hits are to second and short against lefties.  This probably speaks to Guthrie's great success against righties with his two-seam fastball. Either that or lefty batters are more inclined to go to the opposite field. In general lefties seem more evenly clustered across all regions while it looks like all the righties were trying to pull the ball.  Any thoughts?

 

Update: Well I can look at all righthanded pitchers at Camden versus lefties and righties. So here they are below. They include Guthrie's pitches too but the extra data should make comparing him easier.

 

RHP vs. RHH:

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via photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net

 

 

RHP vs. LHH:

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via photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net

So comparing Guthrie to all right-handed pitchers (RHP):

Against we see most other RHPs have more balls hit towards shortstop and third, so I would imagine that a fair number of those ballsare from two-seam fastballs or sliders. I'm not sure why there are more balls hit to the second first gap. I have two untested theories.

  1. There is more data and therefore more chances for the ball to go the other way
  2. The other pitchers could be using different pitches like maybe a cutter, or possibly locating it differently.

One thing it might show is that more batters were trying to pull the ball knowing that Guthrie gives up a fair number of homeruns. Or it could suggest that due to something Guthrie did last year he allowed/forced more batters to pull the ball hence giving up more homeruns

 

Against LHH: Guthrie's groundballs are much more evenly spread out than the typical RHP although it looks like there may not be enough data for Guthrie.Most balls end up toward the gap between second and first against most RHP so Guthrie is an obvious exception.  This I have to imagine is because of a different pitch selection or location. Maybe Guthrie's change-up is causing it?

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I'm no baseball guru

so these are just random thoughts.

I noticed the same thing you did, about the overall blankness on the 2B/1B side of the infield for right-handed batters. In a way, I’d kind of like him to continue that trend, because he got like 2 million groundouts to Izturis, who is our most reliable fielder in the IF.

It could also be a sign that he’s not pitching away to right-handers very well, possibly a symptom of the fact that his slider (breaking away from righties) seemed like the pitch that was failing him the most often.

"Roberts is unconscious!!!!" - Jim Hunter, after Brian Roberts hits his second HR of the night. 9/21/09

by Gonfoo on Mar 7, 2010 8:02 AM EST reply actions  

The first thing that popped out to me was just how few righties grounded out to second/first. Almost all the balls are to shortstop and third especially compared to how evenly split his hits are to second and short against lefties.

Isn’t this true for most right handed pitchers?

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by birdman on Mar 7, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

It probably is

but a few of the relievers I looked at didn’t have it. But ur probably right. I have the feeling it’s because of fastball movement so I’d be interested to look at how players with cutters fared

by OsandRoyals on Mar 7, 2010 5:13 PM EST reply actions  

hold on 5 mins

I’m gonna upload the splits for right-hand pitchers at camden

by OsandRoyals on Mar 7, 2010 5:22 PM EST reply actions  

Uploaded and edited

And I found the bullet points which i may use more often. And def gonna use the css classes from now on for photos, tables etc

by OsandRoyals on Mar 7, 2010 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

short porch left field

"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel

by swilhelmross on Mar 8, 2010 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

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