Saturday Bird Droppings
by duck on Apr 10, 2010 8:23 AM EDT
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Well, that sucked. Worst part? You knew it was going to happen. Admit it, as soon as you saw #51 warming up in the bullpen, you knew what was going to happen. Oh sure, maybe you didn't say it out loud to your buddies, maybe you tried to push the thought out, but you knew - Mike Gonzalez was going to blow that game. And he did.
Recaps of yesterday's meltdown can be found here (Zrebiec), here (WaPo), here (TSN), here (Toronto Star), here (AP), and here (Ghiroli).
Assessments of Mike Gonzalez's job security are abundant. Yahoo! chimes in, Peter Schmuck gives his thoughts, The b inists there's a bright spot as PressBox says it's Time To Ask The Gonzalez Question, even USA Today says Gonzalez emerging as Public Enemy No. 1 among Orioles fans while Fantasy CPR notes the Boo Birds come out for Gonzalez, and even Virginia chimes in with O's Gonzalez not closing gap team has with squeaker games.
As for the rest of the Orioles-related news...
Roberts' status uncertain after injury - baltimoresun.com
Roberts has an abdominal strain, and it's unknown when he'll return to the lineup. -zk
Gulf Oil Brings More "Orange" to Camden Yards | Earth Times News
Say WHAT? Gulf compares their sign in right field to the two orange seats in OPACY that honor Cal and Eddie. -zk
Offices clear out, fans descend on downtown for Orioles Opening Day - Baltimore Business Journal:
Apparently some people played hooky to watch the game yesterday. Who knew? -zk
Gonzalez on the boos: I understand it.
"Gonzalez was booed loudly after blowing the save in the home opener. But he was also booed on his way into the game as fans remembered his opening night struggles too. "I understand it obviously. They brought me here for a reason. That was to close games and get the job done. That's twice I've done it in a row and I understand their frustration," Gonzalez said." -duck
"I don't have many at bats against Gonzalez because he's a lefty and I hit right handed. The last time I faced him he seemed to throw very hard inside. Now it looks like he is not throwing inside. I already told him that. He will probably look at the video and do a better job tomorrow," Tejada said. -duck
For Orioles' home opener, high hopes and a sea of orange - baltimoresun.com
Rob Jones was selling Orioles hats and T-shirts on the sidewalk along Conway Street again, lured back after a four-year absence by the thought that the team just might make a game of it this season. -duck
Tejada's return to Baltimore a home run | MLB.com: News
"I was fired up as soon as the plane [touched] down last night," Tejada said. "I'm really happy to come back here. I think [for] me to come back this year is going to be really special, because I'm going to try to have the best season that I [ever had]." -duck
Hope Springs Eternal For Orioles Fans - WBAL Radio - wbal.com
"Each year is a fresh start, and this is the year we're going all the way," Mark from Sykesville said in the scalp free zone outside of Oriole Park at Camden Yards. -duck
Pie expected to play this weekend | orioles.com: News
Manager Dave Trembley isn't sure exactly when, but he's confident outfielder Felix Pie will play in one of the Orioles' three games against the Toronto Blue Jays this weekend. -duck
The Schmuck Stops Here: Wieters awakened
Matt Wieters is doing OK carrying this team. -duck
Despite 7-6 loss, fans give Orioles another chance (www.HometownGlenBurnie.com - The Maryland Gazette)
"[Bill] Leahy boycotted Opening Day for a decade, refusing to spend his hard-earned money to support a franchise that was seemingly headed nowhere. However, the Annapolis man ended his self-imposed protest yesterday by attending the Orioles home opener, encouraged by the new direction of the ballclub." I'm sure yesterday did much to fuel his desire to return. -duck
Debate over 'O' in national anthem rages on for Birds fans - baltimoresun.com
"At 2:53:42 Friday afternoon, thousands of Orioles fans committed an act of patriotic blasphemy. Or engaged in a show of loyalty to the hometown team on Opening Day." Or were still drinking across the street, looked at their watches and said "Oh, sh..." as they raced to get to their seats. There's that option, too. -duck
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Adding insult to injury
The tension for the fans in knowing that Mike “Soon Gone” is in the bullpen awaiting a 9th inning lead is only compounded by the fact that Julio Lugo will be playing instead of Brian Roberts.
Oh baseball gods! What hath we done to offendeth thee!
Well
we HAVE annointed our catcher “God”. That can’t be looked upon fondly by the higher powers.
"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!
Blashpemy!
We annointed nothing. He IS God.
Playing on my iPod- Justin Bieber, Hanna Montana, Miley Cyrus, Miranda Cosgrove and The Jonas Brothers.
by Knubles and Bits on Apr 10, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
By moving Michael Gonzalez out of the closer role
on the one hand, we lose any trade value he might have by being potentially successful
on the other hand, there is a chance to buck prevailing mlb wisdom and kill the exclusive closer role.
That I would love to see. Using a closer is not a necessity, it is just conformist.
Use your best pitcher whenever the situation arises when he is most needed.
how well have the closer by committee teams worked in the past?
It’s not like we would be the first team to try it. Almost all of them suck.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
That is a specious line of argument
Those teams sucked not because they had a closer by committee but rather because they sucked. Plenty of teams were great prior to 1990 that did not have a defined closer role.
Remember when Mike Gonzalez ruined BOTH Opening Days?
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Miggi's currently in the lead for Most Birdland Player.
In one game as a freshman at Miami, Wieters hit a two-run homer in the top of the ninth to put the Yellow Jackets ahead, then pitched the bottom of the ninth for the save. On that day, the God nickname was bestowed. - Sports Illustrated
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Apr 10, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions
Look at the Giants!
My world series pick is red hot!
In one game as a freshman at Miami, Wieters hit a two-run homer in the top of the ninth to put the Yellow Jackets ahead, then pitched the bottom of the ninth for the save. On that day, the God nickname was bestowed. - Sports Illustrated
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Apr 10, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions
“The easy thing to do is to step on people when they’re down. I don’t think you gain anything by doing that.” — Dave
I am really not happy about the pre-game booing of Gonzalez
I’m not thrilled about the in-game booing. I don’t really think you should boo your own players, but I understand it a little bit when it happens in game. But to boo him coming down the orange carpet? Orioles fans should be classier than that.
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by Stacey on Apr 10, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
well maybe they know they actually have a halfway decent team this year
and see all of that progress shot in the ninth inning with blown saves.
by twistedlogic on Apr 10, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Huff Daddy got booed on the orange carpet after the "horseshit" comment
He went on to have a pretty good year that particular season and everybody loved him by the end of the year. We should be so lucky as to have Gonzalez achieve the same result.
Granted, it’s not exactly the same situation because this is about actual in-game performance.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Apr 10, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I thought that was stupid too.
He was just speaking the truth.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Classier than that?
I don’t know, as much as I love the O’s and O’s fans, the word classy has never really been synonymous with the fanbase. It’s not a classy town. It’s not a classy area. The city is primarily blue collar (at best) and the quintessential O’s fan is Wild Bill Hagy. Sure there’s suburbs, but half of those are working class as well – and the other half aren’t exactly the Connecticut panhandle or anything. They’re just typical upper middle class burbs.
All these years of restraint always puzzled me around OPACY. Here you are in the middle of one of the most violent cities in North America, yet people are downright subdued when it comes with dealing with rival fans, notably from Boston and New York.
Contrast this to the treatment rival fans receive in Philadelphia or Yankee Stadium and it’s really a head scratcher. My pop pysch theory on it is that people are so sketched out by the sky high violent crime rates in Baltimore that they simply do not try to start trouble in the city. You’ve got a reasonable enough chance of trouble finding you in Charm City without actively initiating it on your own.
I'm not talking about that kind of restraint
I would love for the O’s fan base to be more vocal, more hostile to out of town fans, all of that. But booing your own players is a different animal.
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It's not unrelated.
It’s collective manners we’re talking about….in broad, stadium-full-of-people generalizations.
I don't think it's the same
but we’ll just have to disagree.
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sure
we can also both agree that you’re a tool ;)
This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873
Booing your own team
Seems pretty standard, at least in the northeast . Go up the east coast from Baltimore to Boston and tell me a fan base that doesn’t give the home team a healthy dose of booing when they suck. I’d venture a guess that Baltimore is tamer than cities further north.
I’m not just talking baseball. I live in MA and I can tell you the Bruins, Caltics (and the Patriots) have been hearing the boo-birds. There is also a lot of grumbling about the new ‘defensive-minded’ Red Sox.
It’s part of the collective mid set of sports fans.
Exactly
My primary exposure is to the Yanks from having the YES network for so many years, but booing is much more prevalent in NY, of course. They were booing A-Rod for not winning the World Series. Not just blowing a game or two.
Or it is that every sports fan in Boston is a dick
At least, all the ones who root for Boston teams.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Not classy?
I’m not sure what you mean here, and I’m not sure what to make of your comments about Blue Collar people. Are you saying that people who work in blue collar jobs are less capable of behaving politely than bankers and Wall Street types? I’ve seen plenty of those guys behave in a way I would not consider “classy” at Yankees games. Or maybe Baltimore needs more Boston blue blood types, because lord knows all those Boston Brahmins would never be so declasse as to boo an under-performing player.
In my experience Baltimore fans are a lot less rude than most in most of the other cities I’ve visited. I mean, there are good eggs and bad ones everywhere, but I’ve seen much worse behavior elsewhere.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
I'm not sure where you're getting the first part of this comment from
But as for the second, it isn’t a contest. Being less rude than Boston or NY fans isn’t the standard.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I'd agree with the second paragraph.
I’m just not sure why this is given that Baltimore is a tough town and you would think the opposite might be true. My feeling, as I stated above, is that people aren’t really being polite to be polite. They just have learned not to start shit in the city. As an example, most New Yorkers know you can generally tell someone to fuck off or give them the finger and nothing will happen. It’s just what people do. But in Baltimore this generally will not be as accepted.
But regarding your first paragraph, let’s put the PC bullshit aside and call a spade a spade. Baltimore is a down and dirty town. I love it and have no problem with it for what it is, warts and all. But I’m not going to pretend it’s something it’s not. Half the city looks like it was pulled straight out of People of Walmart. A study done several years back found 10% of adults in the city are addicted to heroin (the highest rate in the US). It is not the type of place the adjective “classy” is generally used to describe – and if you read the history of the city, it never really has been. It’s been an unusually violent American city since at least the early 19th Century and has carried a rough reputation that entire time.
"learned"
This city’s violence has nothing to do with people starting fights at sporting events. And the majority of the attendees at said sporting events aren’t the folks living in the neighborhoods where this would be a learned behavior. The tickets cost too much.
I can see where you are drawing the line here, but really… the big notoriety in Baltimore was borne of the emergence of crack cocaine & our positioning on I-95. Let’s not pretend that 10% of the OPCY folks are addicted to heroin, or have seen their fair share of street violence, or have “learned” to just keep their heads down.
All the years I’ve lived in the city I’ve never seen a gun or a knife. Never seen a stabbing. My car’s been broken into once. The most violence I’ve ever seen has happened in Fells Point – all caused by drunken college idiots. And I’d put money that I’m closer to your typical Camden Yards resident than anyone shellshocked by urban violence.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
Okay, let's ignore the numbers....
…and rely on personal anecdotes:
My step-brother had his thigh bone broken in two places and was nearly beaten to death for merely walking down the street in Baltimore. He was put into some sort of weird concussion where he needed someone with him 24 hours a day to keep him from falling asleep, because if he did he could die or slip into a permanent coma. He’s moved away now, but attends OPACY every time he’s in town.
I’ve seen people stabbed. More fights than I can count. I’ve been held up at gunpoint. I’ve had a house I rented for a film production robbed of tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment. I’ve seen friends cars broken into more times than I can count, to the point where they leave them unlocked at night so would-be thieves can inspect the vehicle (which of course is empty) without breaking the glass. Everyone in Baltimore knows someone who does this. It was even featured on Charm City Cakes.
Oh and at OPACY? Here’s a little story. Just last summer I was walking right across the street from the stadium, on the block with the Hilton. The Yankees were in town and there was an enormous crowd of people. The other side of the street was lined with cops. There were so many people there, some of you may have even seen this.
I passed a corner where a group of maybe 10 junkies, with open bottles of liquor and several Pit Bulls were sitting. They were what are typically called “brown people” in New York – which does not denote race, they were all caucasian, but rather the dirty camo, army stuff they wear and the fact that they all looked like they hadn’t bathed in weeks or more. Nobody was going near these people and I shouldn’t have either.
I walked about 10-15 feet away from them and noticed one of the dogs looked kind of like my dog and I smiled at it in a normal, friendly, dog greeting way. I walked another 10 feet and someone in the group – my back was turned – threw one of the liquor bottles at me. It crashed right at my feet and some of the shards of glass cut the back of my leg – nothing serious, but the obvious intention was to hit me with the bottle. The guy just missed. Thousands of people saw this happen. Obviously pissed off, I turned around:
“What the fuck is your problem? Which one of you fuckers threw that?”
All the junkies started saying “Not me man.” or pointing up at the hotel, or some other nonsense.
“Bullshit.”, I said. “I’m getting the cop.”
I walked across the street to a police officer stationed right there and told her what happened. “Well, I didn’t see it.” she said.
“How could you not see it? You’re standing right here. Right across the street.”
“I didn’t see it and even if I did, I couldn’t do anything about it.”
“Why not?”
“I’m not allowed to leave my post. You’re going to have to find another officer to help you.”
“Can you call one for me on your walkie talkie?”
“Well, you’re probably better off just calling 911.”
“But you’re right here.”
“Yeah but it’s easier if you just call 911. But I’ll tell you, when they arrive, you’re going to have go down to the station house all night and you’ll be there filling out forms until 9:00.”
Now it was confirmed. The cop was doing whatever it took to avoid any work whatsoever, including convincing me how much time I was going to be inconvenienced by should I pursue the affair. Meanwhile the junkies across the street hadn’t even bother to move and were still drinking and being rowdy. I imagine because they already knew the Baltimore police were a joke. So did the police officer, who told me so, in no uncertain terms in the following exchange.
Frustrated, I said “This is exactly why this city is so fucked up. Because the police won’t do anything to stop crime, even when it happens right in front of their face.”
“Let me tell you something. This city is a fucking joke.” she said. “I’m getting my years in and getting the fuck out of here as soon as I can.”
I’d have to agree with her, at least in regards to the BPD and City government.
My theory above is that this amount of lawlessness and violence – back to the stats, nearly the highest in the US – causes people to not want to start shit. Simply because you don’t know where it’s going to lead to in a culture this dysfunctional.
He was put into some sort of weird concussion where he needed someone with him 24 hours a day to keep him from falling asleep, because if he did he could die or slip into a permanent coma.
That’s almost all severe concussions. You’re not supposed to sleep.
And the rest of your stories are just shitty city neighborhoods – they exist in almost every major city.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I wasn't arguing with your assessment of Baltimore as a city
just saying that your personal anecdotes don’t really say anything about the city since they could and do happen in almost every major city.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Oh...
…let me ramble on a bit more.
Since the 19th Century Baltimore has had the nickname “Mobtown” due to the unruly mobs and gangs that were known to riot and wage warfare in the city streets. Go read some 19th Century newspaper articles and you’ll see what I’m talking about. Most telling are articles and political cartoons from other cities and the attitude they have toward Baltimore, which honestly, is not all that different from today.
I’m not trying to be “PC,” I just don’t agree with your characterization of the people of Baltimore. I realize it’s a violent city that has many problems, but I don’t think that is because the people of the city in general are less “classy” than anywhere else.
I’ve lived all over the East Coast. The only place I’ve ever been subjected to even the threat of violence is at Yankee Stadium (dude pulled a knife on me because I was wearing an Os hat). I was regularly harassed at Yankee Stadium, and not in a jovial kind of way. I’ve never seen Os fans behave anything other than politely to opposing fans, even when they didn’t deserve it. Boston fans can be obnoxious, but I’ve never had any real problems there either.
"If you know how to cheat, start now." - Earl Weaver
Baltimore has plenty of blue blood.
They aren’t as famous as the Boston set, but there’s enough old money in this town to make Martha’s Vineyard look like a bunch of free-wheeling lottery winners.
From the Land of Pleasant Living...
ehhhhh
there’s enough old money in this town to make Martha’s Vineyard look like a bunch of free-wheeling lottery winners.
Let’s not get carried away.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I don't know
MFY and PHN fans seem to feel perfectly at home and comfortable talking shit to anybody and everybody in our stadium.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
maybe he just needs 1 or 2 low pressure situations to get his groove back
i know he’s a closer and it’s his job and all but he looks nervous as hell out there.
"nicely done."
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we're back in business
Maybe he needs
to give us our money back. And by money I mean that $12 Million contract, plus the ticket sales, plus the cumulative time of every Orioles fan watching these blown games on television, listening to them on the radio or trying to follow them on GameDay. I’m sure the MLBPA will go for it.
So then all we lose is our second round pick?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
This opening day was different from last year's.
I think atmosphere has changed. Wieters is here. There is not much that people are waiting for other than wins.
We need to stay focused on the development at the major league level.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
Anybody know if the I-heart-MASN guy is gonna be doin' his highlight thing again...
I mean, y’know, when we have some highlights?
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Well, we only won the one game
and I was on the road to Baltimore that night so I couldn’t put it together.
I won’t be back home until Sunday night, so there won’t be anything until then.
Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes
Your services are much appreciated, sir!
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Anybody know if the I-heart-MASN guy is gonna be doin' his highlight thing again...
I mean, y’know, when we have some highlights?
It does happen…
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." Churchill,1942-- a rebuilding year.
Booing at intro is a bit too much. All the other booing is not my cup of tea, but I don’t care.
For those chastising the fans for booing (on various boards), at least the stadium was full of fans hoping for good thngs. That packed house witnessed a guy who has repeatedly stunk at the worst time possible, that is, in very high leverage situations. They let their feelings be known. If this keeps up, the fans will stop coming to the park and one upside will be that no player’s ego will be damaged by the boo-birds.
booing
is a really stupid bovine practice anyway. we should do what the europeans do and whistle. it sounds a lot cooler, doesn’t involve imitating cows, and even takes a little bit of skill. lets start the revolution, right here at the yard
"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel
Why the hell would I whistle
just because Europeans do? Europeans put cream or cheese on everything. Screw that. Europeans drink red wine with almost everything. Screw that.Eureopeans don’t use ice in drinks. Screw that. Eureopeans have countries that are as big as my back yard. Screw that. Europeans thing David Hasselhoff is talented. Screw that.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Haha I totally read that as
“Europeans put cream cheese on everything.”
And I was SUPER confused. Related random bit of information for the day: The Italian word for cream cheese is “Philadelphia.”
ooh wow
I didn’t even notice that it DIDN’T say that.
I think Philadelphia invented cream cheese, right?
cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz
I'm not sure
I just know that the only brand of cream cheese they have in Italy is the brand Philadelphia, and so that is the actual word for cream cheese there.
I think its largely because cream cheese is largely foreign to Italian cuisine
The closest equivalent is probably mascarpone
(whistles)
"you know what the orioles could use right now? a day off." - joe angel
by swilhelmross on Apr 10, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely
Knew I forgot something.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Actually
A truly great beer is often better served at room temperature, you can taste all the flavors better. Also pub ale’s such as boddingtons used to be served at almost room temperature. Cheap warm beer is beyond fowl.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 10, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
"warm" is probably the wrong word here
Here’s the Wikipedia entry about serving temperatures for different kinds of beer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer#Serving_temperature
Condensed version: it is acceptable to chill beers that are without “an appreciable taste and aroma profile” (ie macrobeers like Coors Light, Miller Lite, whatever), but good beers would benefit from being served at or close to room temperature to reveal their range of flavors. Room temp being 59ish degrees, so not “warm” per se but certainly warmer than “the coldest beer in the world” and beers like that.
I'm fine with not whistling just because Europeans do
And having been to enough soccer games, i’ve actually learned to hate the whistling. But I have no problem putting cream or cheese on everything, and would drink red wine withe verything if i could afford it.
So the injury widget
on the sidebar says that Felix Pie has an injured trapezius and is in the “60 day dl/out for the season” category. I can’t find anything on it anywhere, though, so I think that it has to be a mistake. But I almost had a heart attack when I saw it.
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I hated the Gonzo signing
But he’s part of my team now. I’d have been pissed if I was at Camden when they booed him pregame (if you want to boo after he blew the save, that’s ok by me).
But still, it is only three innings. Here’s hoping he has 67 great innings to go this season. And if he makes it into a game when I get to see the O’s at NYC Taxpayers Stadium, I’ll be the dude cheering him.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I guess I am...
“A glass is half full” kind of guy… But other than Gonzalez, I am enjoying the games. Sure the situational hitting is frustrating, but the bats seem to be coming along. Wieters’ progression is just insane to me. His hitting is what I think we all expected. His calling of games I think has been great. I really think he gives our pitchers the best chance they have. Between Kakes, Pie, Jones, Nolan….this has to be my favorite Orioles outfield in decades.
I’m rambling…but I really like the make up of this team and cannot help but think that Andy will keep them moving in the right direction.
"The ball always seems to find Ed Reed...The man is a menace"
by UMBC Oriole fan on Apr 10, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
"Sure the situational hitting is frustrating"
Maybe they need some situational training
"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!
"*Grunt*"
“That’s what she said.”
I’m sorry, but that was hilarious.
"Amber has quick hands." ~ Joe Angel, 4/8/10
Founder of the Don't Boo Gonzalez club
This whole thing is hilarious
I love how they throw in the Rocky music, probably just to piss off Phillies fans.
Cry havoc and unleash the Esskay hot dogs of war! - The Wayward Oriole, Opening Day 2008
by Eat More Esskay on Apr 10, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you for bringing that into my life
This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873
If you could sign one guy to a contract for the rest of his career to the orioles, who would you sign?
I’d sign Evan Longoria. he could easily hit 50 HR’s in the next two or three years, we just saw how hard it can be get him out, and he’s just about to hit his prime.
In one game as a freshman at Miami, Wieters hit a two-run homer in the top of the ninth to put the Yellow Jackets ahead, then pitched the bottom of the ninth for the save. On that day, the God nickname was bestowed. - Sports Illustrated
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Apr 10, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions
It'd be hard to argue against Longo
Pujols has to be in the argument, but i’d probably still take Evan (especially at his current going rate). Hanley Ramierez? Lincecum? Greinke? Heyward? At this point, they all have more questions/concerns than Longo. If you could lock down Evan in our lineup and add even a league average 1B then we’d be deadly for years to come. Imagine this:
B-Rob
Nick
AJ
Longo
Wieters
Nolan
Pie/Luke
1B
SS
Yes please.
"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!
Oh my.
That’d be a lineup that could rival with the Yankees and the redsox.
In one game as a freshman at Miami, Wieters hit a two-run homer in the top of the ninth to put the Yellow Jackets ahead, then pitched the bottom of the ninth for the save. On that day, the God nickname was bestowed. - Sports Illustrated
Unofficial Leader of the Brain Matusz For ROY Campaign
by BaltimoreSportsFan on Apr 10, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
What questions/concerns does Hanley have?
He’s clearly an improved defensive player since his first seasons.
That said, I might take Tulo over both Hanley and Longoria.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I forgot about Tulo
I do so more often than I care to admit, honestly.
As far as Hanley’s concerns, I thought he was older than he is. The dude is only 26. That said, I don’t know how long he sticks at SS, but worst case scenario he shifts to 3B, where Longo is anyways. Honestly, the more that I think about it the more I might take Tulo or Hanley over Longo. Great 3B’s are alot easier to find than great SS’s. I’ll take my chances with Bell panning out at 3rd and having a STUD SS over taking Longo at 3rd and trying to find a suitable replacement at SS. Taking the SS means a better chance of having a complete lineup 1-9.
"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!
there's actually not too much evidence to support that he's much better in the field than last year
he had very few balls hit to him last year according to SI.
but hey i’d still take him in a heartbeat.
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by danielreese05 on Apr 10, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
wouldnt have AJ batting third tho. probably wieters instead.
by twistedlogic on Apr 10, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking that
I would probably flip AJ and Matt, but I just wrote down what I think Dave would do.
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now that I've had time to cool my rage
I think that Gonzalez should be put into middle relief until we can see if he can get his groove back. I think in light of what happened he should have to earn back his closer job. For those wanting to get rid of him though be careful what you wish for, we all know Jim Johnson didn’t get it done in that role last year.
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Welp, I bought a month's worth of MLB.tv and...[drum roll]...
I’m afraid to jinx it! Oh, what the hell: it’s looking pretty good. Picture quality is excellent (at least for the Twinkies-Wright Sox game) and the freezing has been minimal.
Knock wood. We’ll see how the Yerks look (CC pitching) in 15 min. or so.
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Oh, and did I mention this is off a 4 yr old laptop running on wi-fi ripped off from somebody else in the bldg (or maybe the school next door), at a 1- or 2-bar (tops) level? I’m impressed…
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This just in: The rug at The Trop STILL looks like sh#t
Nobody there has a couple cans of spray paint? What a cheese-ball franchise…
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http://www.ballparksofbaseball.com/future/RaysBallpark.htm
look at the new one though. high quality stuff.
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by danielreese05 on Apr 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, has something changed...?
“On June 25, 2008 the Rays announced they were abandoning their ambitious plans to build a $450 million stadium on the downtown waterfront by 2012. The stadium has been delayed indefinitely because St. Petersburg and Pinellas County officials complained that the city and county were being rushed to commit millions of public money for the project. A new timeline will be developed and the Rays will look at other locations for a stadium. Sites include Tropicana Field, the former Toytown landfill, Derby Lane and Al Lang Field.”
So now can they buy the spray paint?
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Hey, birdman
Copy, paste:
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I’m going easy on you this time based on the ease with which this bet was won. Don’t count on such mercy next time.
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I was thinking sig line, but whatever.
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everybody turn on the MFY game and talk openly about CC's no-hitter in the hopes of jinxing it!!
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
He's got a NO-HITTER going? A NO-HITTER? Really?
Wow! A real live NO-HITTER in progress!
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N! O! H! I! T! T! E! R!
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Apr 10, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
damn it! it's not working! his NO-HITTER is still intact
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
This long ass half inning has to be taking a toll on CC's NO-HITTER right?
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
He hasn't given up any hits yet? Hey, doesn't that make it a NO-HITTER?
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by Eat More Esskay on Apr 10, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No-hitter you say?
Oh, a no-hitter! Man, I sure hope no one jinxes the no-hitter by talking about the no-hitter. No-hitter.
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Going to my first game in over seven years on Sunday.
Where is a good place nearby to grab a crab cake and a beer before the game?
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 10, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions
Going Sunday.
Thanks
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 10, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The best place is Faidley's in Lexington market
it’s a bit of a walk (almost half a mile) but it’s worth it.
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Thanks.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 10, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
where ya been man???
you’ve missed the golden age!
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by danielreese05 on Apr 10, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha
Marine Corps for five years. Before that I just didn’t get to any games.
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 10, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
So...should we feel worse or better about ourselves
watching the Yankees kick the absolute shit out of the Rays? Although I guess the Rays knocked them around pretty well yesterday, so who knows.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
it's not easy for me to admit this
but i think we should feel good. i think NY has a better chance of making the playoffs and my early season optimism isn’t due to collapse until around mid-june.
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by danielreese05 on Apr 10, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a good team
We should feel good that we came damn close to taking 2-3 from the Rays (maybe even sweeping) and we should have won last night as well. There are too many good pieces on this team to keep talking about what may be. We’ve got 3-4 solid pieces in the outfield alone, one of the best catchers in the game, a still quite solid 2B, and no part of the rotation makes me want to vomit. We’re at the point where i’m not embarrased telling people i’m an O’s fan.
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ehh
I’ll be at the point where I’m not embarrassed to tell people I’m an O’s fan once we start winning games we should win.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Gonzo sucks
I’ll freely admit that. I’m not embarrased about the team though. I’m pissed that 1 player is ruining it.
"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!
Jesus fucking christ how lucky can a fat rich fuck get???
first the diving play by A*roid and the pick by Douchera and now a hard grounder off his pitching hand saved by Cano? Fuck!
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
YES!
Fuck you you fat fucking douche!
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BTW
I wasn’t talking about you O’sFan21. People may misread that later.
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HAHAHA FAT FUCK!
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by Knubles and Bits on Apr 10, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions
nice sig
who chose it for you? ;)
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Apr 10, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok now I can finally turn off this shitshow of a game.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I was there and I was booing
Respect something that has to be earned. Failure should not be tolerated or endorsed. When a new player comes in as a FA to do a job he is expected to perform. He is making 6 six million to close out games, that’s his job, get three outs, and go home. If this was a player from our farm system or a reliever who was new to the roll, fans would be more lenient, but he’s not. Case in point, B-rob was 2-14 coming into opening day, everyone cheered. If Atkins was 2-14 there would have been booing and people would be screaming for Josh Bell. If you pick bad apple, you don’t keep eating it just because you over paid for it.
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