It's official - no TV for Saturday's game
by duck on Apr 15, 2010 7:51 AM EDT
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PrintSince there wasn't a channel listed for TV when I found the Orioles' broadcast schedule on their website, I figured I'd contact MASN directly and find out what's up. Sure enough, by the A's choosing a 1:05 pm PDT (4:05 EDT) start time, they've made sure no one outside California will see the game. Here's the official statement from MASN:
Due to Major League Baseball's national broadcast restrictions, the Baltimore Orioles 4:00 p.m. ET game in Oakland on Saturday afternoon cannot be televised by MASN.
Major League Baseball¹s agreements with national television networks forbid any regional network from broadcasting any Major League Baseball game during the window reserved for nationally televised baseball games.
According to MLB's website:
Due to Major League Baseball exclusivities, live games occurring each Saturday with a scheduled start time after 1:10 PM ET or before 7:05 PM ET and each Sunday with a scheduled start time after 5:00 PM ET, will be
blacked out in the United States (including the territories of Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands).
For more information, please see MLB's blackout policy or Wikipedia's description: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/help/faq_subscriptions.jsp#q10
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLB.com#Blackout_restrictions
As the home team, Oakland chooses the game¹s start time and, unfortunately, decided to begin Saturday¹s game early.
No one but FOX can show a game during that time slot, and apparently, local FOX affiliates aren't showing the O's game. Baltimore City's FOX affiliate is slated to show the national game of the Mets at the Cardinals according to TitanTV. Same for Salisbury.
Looks like it's radio only for us on Saturday. It is, however, the only date this year that the O's will not be televised.
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I hate that Fox rule
This is on the A’s. Why would they choose to schedule a game when they know it can’t be televised?
Remember before Fox renegotiated their contract all Orioles Saturday home games were at 4:35? I loved that. You could go to the game and the summer sun wasn’t beating down on you but you still got finished early that you could go out and do something else on Saturday night. I was bummed when they had to switch to 7 p.m. games.
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It's not even on in Oakland
FOX 2 in SF is showing the Giants game.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Aw what's with the dig at Guts?
He’s had two very acceptable starts.
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However
He is returning to the scene of his worst start last year, when he didn’t even make it out of the first inning and was tagged by everyone from Jason Giambi to Adam Freaking Kennedy. Bad times, man.
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Thanks for the reminder
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I'm not sure this is bad news
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by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 15, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions
This is MLB's version of a mercy rule
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by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 15, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Will it be on
Local Oakland broadcasts? I have the package…
That is gonna blow.
by Wieters Wieners on Apr 15, 2010 8:20 AM EDT reply actions
Nope, it's not
and they are doing an early start against the Indians NEXT Saturday, too. The A’s must not like being on TV on Saturdays.
The have FIFTEEN games this year not on TV. In 2010. Wow.
http://oakland.athletics.mlb.com/schedule/broadcast/index.jsp?c_id=oak
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
What?
It’s not even going to be on the local broadcast. Lame.
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Yup.
Only way they could have avoided that was to schedule it after 4:05.
Let’s see, pretend I live in the East Bay, and I get one Saturday per week.
I can do something productive during the day, like run some errands and wash the car, AND do something fun with my family in the evening over in San Francisco, the glittering jewel of northern California.
Or,
I can get nothing done during the day, and kill my night at the same time, by GOING TO A 4:30PM BASEBALL GAME IN OAKLAND.
Hmm. Tough one….
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
They COULD make it 7:05
like almost every other team in the league.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
by duck on Apr 15, 2010 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
then nobody would watch
considering that your nation’s capitals play at 7. priorities here.
by twistedlogic on Apr 15, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If there's a Caps/O's conflict for the next two months
unless Matusz is pitching, it’s a no-brainer.
LET’S GO CAPS!
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
completely agreed
even if matusz is pitching, majority of the attention is going to the caps.
by twistedlogic on Apr 15, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
if matusz is pitching, and it's a non-elimanation game
I’m watching Matusz.
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by BaltimoreSportsFan on Apr 15, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what I'm thinking
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
by duck on Apr 15, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Unfortunately, I'll probably still be checking the score every 15 minutes
There is something very wrong with me.
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by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 15, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Try being from North Carolina...
Every fucking game is blacked out always.
See y’all on MLB GameDay.
That makes me so mad
If your cable company refuses to carry the baseball games then Extra Innings and MLB.tv should waive the blackout rule. It’s so ridiculous.
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Get DirecTV
I’m in Greensboro and get all the games on MASN. We’re in the Orioles TV territory so we’re always gonna be blacked out on Extra Innings.
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The O's will win this game
and none of us will believe it actually happened.
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It's not Fox
It’s the A’s. That’s been the deal for years. Fox is looking out for its business interests.
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The A's could have scheduled this for a 4:05 local start or a 7:05 local start
This one is on the A’s.
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
it's NOT the A's, it's FOX
A team has every right to decide what its start times will be, based on when they expect to get the crowds. They’re most concerned with gate attendance as far as start times go, and afternoon baseball is very popular in the bay area. Particularly at a place like the Coliseum (or whatever it’s called now), which is not attached to “downtown Oakland” in any meaningful way.
The Orioles have had night games on Saturdays for a while now. So has Boston. Both teams have stadiums that make an ideal “night on the town”—people can come into Boston or Baltimore for the day, shop, get a meal, then head over to the park. But the Yankees and Tampa Bay always schedule their Saturday games at 1:05 (no doubt because no one is going to “make a day” of going to the Bronx), as do many other teams in baseball (the majority, I’d guess).
Why should Oakland be asked to behave differently because of FOX’s stupid contract with MLB?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
The A's have the right to make whatever decision they want
I certainly agree they have the right to start their game whenever they want. What I meant was, the A’s knew the rules and decided to schedule a game when it couldn’t be on TV anyway. I’m not ASKING them to behave differently, but they ARE the reason it’s not on TV.
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I just disagree with this.
I have no doubt that the A’s have had afternoon baseball games at 1pm for several decades now. THAT is the precedent.
The reason they are not on TV has to do with idiotic agreements between broadcasters and MLB, which did not respect that precedent.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Why would you NOT have your product televised
15 times a year? Sure, the A’s can decide what they want, but it seems pretty short-sighted to not offer your product to the widest possible audience. Almost 10% of the schedule is unavailable to their fans at home. What sense does that make?
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
I'm pretty sure all the locals know who the A's are by now.
A difference of, say, 5000 attendees at this game is $100k or more to them. Who knows what previous experience has taught them about 4:35 or 7:35 starts on a Saturday? Only their marketing department, that’s who.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
Gotta hang this one on the A's
The Fox contract sucks, but everyone knows what it is. They television territory is pretty large and to intentionally shut them out as well as the visiting teams fans is pretty bush.
That’s why you don’t see a lot of teams schedule games in the blackout window unless they are on Fox that day.
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I'm sure they were aware of it.
And I’m sure scheduling it when they did was not an oversight. You do the math.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I know what the math says
The math says they didn’t care if anyone outside the stadium could see the game – be it their own fans or the fans of the visiting team.
As far as MASN is concerned Saturday night is a rain out. the lacrosse game will get a fraction of the ratings and advertising revenue that the Orioles game would.
Let’s schedule a 405pm game the next time they are in Baltimore on a Saturday and see how much they like it.
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I know the A's are aware of it
The A’s surely have a reason for it. Maybe they’ve found that it gets more people to come to the games. However its still a pretty crappy thing to do to the visiting fans. Especially us here in Baltimore, who would have to travel across to country to see the game (I could understand it more if they did it to the Angels or another west coast team). I don’t see why they couldn’t have done it at 4:05 local time. It would still be a day game, but within Fox’s exclusive time slot. It would also make it at a reasonable time for Baltimore fans who want to watch.
I can’t blame Fox here. They’re paying a lot of money for their exclusive slot and MLB agreed to it.
And the clubs share in that money
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Maybe they’ve found that it gets more people to come to the games.
This is exactly my point. They have scheduled MANY of the Saturday games for 1:05, not just the O’s.
I’m not blaming FOX, I’m blaming stupid MLB, which flips the bird to its fans by giving FOX exclusivity. The casual baseball fan is not going to tune into FOX’s game of the week on Saturdays, no matter how much MLB tries to oversell certain teams. OH, LOOK. 2/3 of FOX’s weekends feature a team from NYC! Those that don’t always feature the Red Sox, Braves, or Phillies! WELL THANK GOD. Because those are teams that really need more exposure to a National Audience. And you never see them on, I don’t know, ESPN.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
It is, however, the only date this year that the O’s will not be televised.
So, umm, this is a good thing?
"I do think the O’s have sucked balls this season. If that displeases you Luke, then oh well."-birdman
I didn't say that
I just noted the fact it’s the only date not televised. You decide if that’s a good or bad thing. :)
"How's that s---house of an Eastern Shore?" - William Donald Schaefer
Yeah..
I’m having trouble trying to decide which part of “Looks like it’s radio only for us on Saturday. It is, however, the only date this year that the O’s will not be televised.” is the good part and which part is the bad part… the “however” indicates (to me) that both sentences have opposite meanings.
Help me out a little bit… when you wrote them, which was intended to be to good?
"I do think the O’s have sucked balls this season. If that displeases you Luke, then oh well."-birdman
That, my friend, is up to the reader.
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by duck on Apr 15, 2010 2:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Remember 2008 when they didn't even make up a game against Oakland?
Reminds of that.
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