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Monday Bird Droppings

Wonderful details of yesterday's glorious comeback against hated foes the Red Sox as our heroes defended the Birdland may be found here (Connolly), here (AP), here (Ghiroli), and here (Melewski). OK, so I watched "Enemy at the Gates" again this weekend. Sorry for the hyberbole, but I love Ralph Joseph Fiennes in that movie. (Thanks to UH-60 for the correct actor)

Rookie Hughes willing to be spark for Orioles - baltimoresun.com
"First baseman Rhyne Hughes isn't sure he is the spark the Orioles need to break out of their early-season funk. If he is, though, he's willing to play the role. " Rhyne, buddy? Tag, you're it. -duck

Vet Millwood opposes young Hughes in opener - MLB.com
Our favorite mentor, Kevin Millwood, tries for his first win of the year. He's got a 3.38 ERA and has 24 strikeouts versus four walks, but can't buy any run support. -duck

Jones breaking out of early slump - MLB.com
"But the only way you can get yourself out of a slump is to hit yourself out of a slump," Adam Jones said. And it seems he may just be doing it. Now if Luke Scott will follow his lead. -duck

Orioles Catcher Matt Wieters Learning on the Fly - NESN.com
Matt Wieters talked with a NESN reporter about assuming the role of leader of the pitching staff as the regular catcher. -duck

Mora defends Trembley. Really, he does. - Orioles Insider
Mass hysteria, dog and cats living together, and Melvin Mora defending Dave Trembley, Truly these are the end of days. -duck

White House is next stop for Yankees - MLB.com
"The Yankees' road-trip itinerary contains one additional stop, and it will not be found on any pocket schedule -- the White House." Really, MLB.com reporter? THAT'S your lede for the story? Ugh. And Yankees fans wonder why everyone hates their team. -duck

LATE ADDITION: Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps
Norfolk won behind Brad Bergesen's strong outing, Bowie lost, Frederick whooped up on Salem, and Delmarva lost as Matt Hobgood wasn't so good Sunday. -duck

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White House

It used to be special to go to the White House but now a days everyone gets to go there if they win. Kinda funny part of that article was that both times they metioned someone going to see the President both teams were playing against the O’s. I am amazed that Mora is sticking up for Trembley. I still think they should can him but what Mora had to say made sense. All anyone could say before the season was that Wieters would learn very quickley at the Major League level.

Matt Wieters Was Drafted 5th Overall Because The First 4 Teams Thought That Harnessing The Power Of Ten-thousand Suns Was Playing God.

by 17oriolesfan on Apr 26, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions  

well

Baltimore is the closest AL city to Washington so it just kinda works out that way. Also, I’m betting it would still feel special to go to the White House.

cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz

by Steve. on Apr 26, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trembley Leaving?

First of all i will start out and say that i am really surprised in Mora’s comments toward trembley but then again i don’t think the lossing is mostly his fault either.

Also i want to say that i was impressed with Rhyne Hughs in the sox series and i am excited to see what he will do in the series against the yankees. We can use any kind of offense right now.

Question what is the update with Trembley? Are they going to let him go today or keep him? I personally think since they won yesterday that the front office has the feeling of lets keep him around a little longer and see if he turns it around.

by Oriolebird88 on Apr 26, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe the win yesterday means less to them then it does to us? Maybe they will wait till after this series and then decide.

Matt Wieters Was Drafted 5th Overall Because The First 4 Teams Thought That Harnessing The Power Of Ten-thousand Suns Was Playing God.

by 17oriolesfan on Apr 26, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Fan!!!

105.7 The fan was saying this morning about Davie Johnson. He benched Cal Ripken in the middle of a game. We need that kind of attitude when it comes to a manager. All’s i know is i watched MASN last night around 8 oclock and they had the orioles divisional playoff game in 97 vs seattle. I was probably 8 then. I don’t really remember it and god i wish that that was us right now. The crowd was pumped it was packed and they were standing and cheering on every 2 strike count.

by Oriolebird88 on Apr 26, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't recall Davey ever "benching" Cal in the middle of a game

My interpretation of the word “benching” is that you get pulled out of the game as punishment for some kind of misdeed on the field.

The one flap I recall with Cal and Davey Johnson was in a game where Cal reached base and they put Manny Alexander to run for him. It was late in the game and it was just to try and get some speed on the bases. Even then Cal wasn’t real happy about it.

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by IHeartMASN on Apr 26, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Be glad you missed the AL championship against Cleveland

That made me cry. Something inside of me knew that was our best chance. I didn’t know that we’d fall THIS far, but I knew that was probably the best team i’d see for a while. Robbie Alomar striking out to end the series is still burned into my brain.

"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!

by daveh873 on Apr 26, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still

I would do all most anything to see winning Orioles baseball. I am very jealous that my dad grew up in the 60’s and 70’s cause he had the colts and the orioles. You know at one time baltimore was nicknamed the city of champions.

by Oriolebird88 on Apr 26, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

ugh i hate that nickname

Mainly because cities bestow it upon themselves far too often. Currently Boston and Pittsburgh believe they are in fact, the city of champions.

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 26, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Boston did hold the super bowl, world series, and NBA championship all at the same time recently.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Argh...

I remember thinking when Cleveland somehow beat the Yankees that we had this one in the bag….I thought for sure I’d be watching an Orioles WS…..sigh

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Apr 26, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Well the past is the past, alls we can do now is take it one game at a time. Can we atleast get some ORIOLE fans out at the park this weekend. I understand the week night games but lets get out there on the weekend. I get tired of the Over taking of sox and yankees fans.

by Oriolebird88 on Apr 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be there Thursday night

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

My first Brian Matusz Day of 2010

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh awesome!

I didn’t even think about who was pitching. Where are you sitting? I’m in section 74 – no idea if they are good.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haven't gotten my tickets yet. Gonna stop by the ticket office on my way home from work tonight.

74 is in the corner by the LF foul pole. I’ll probably be near there somewhere since I’m using the vouchers from the holiday 4 pack that got me my opening day tickets.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s how I ended up there. My dad picked them up for me when he went to Opening Day. They’re in row 3, so as long as they’re not directly behind the pole I’m hoping they’ll be pretty good.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

those are nice seats

That’s where I always move down to on student nights.

cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz

by Steve. on Apr 26, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess i havent graduated to the high class seats yet

i’m always in the upper deck since those are the only ones in my price range

by twistedlogic on Apr 26, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

same here

but in the 4th inning when there’s 8,000 people in the stadium it’s ok to move down near the foul pole.

cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz

by Steve. on Apr 26, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

somehow

the price on the tickets is only $20. I was surprised. Not sure if that took into account the fact that I had the opening day package or something.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be there tomorrow night...

In the company seats (my mini-plan is in section 67 or thereabouts), which is pretty sweet. I was amazed to find out that their face is $48 but the game day price jumps to $96!

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prime game

Prices for BOS and NYY tix go up around 50%. PGA knows how to gouge those fans…

"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble

by duck on Apr 26, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, really?

I love your screen name, BTW

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

sadly,it was so.

this story kind of fits the screen name. An origin story for my first post. For the image, i had searched for alan mills punches darryl strawberry and this creepy picture of the pope came up so I went with it.

by snotboogie on Apr 26, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is full of win. all of it.

"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis

by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously

You should definitely post more, snotboogie. This is America!

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehehehe

That is a good philosophy for post moderation. If every time there is an open thread some jack-off makes misogynistic remarks about Amber, why do you let him continue to post?
This is America man.

It actually works for everything. If every time you bring in Matt Albers he gives up a walk and three run bomb, why do you keep bringing in Matt Albers?
This is America man.

by snotboogie on Apr 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahaha awesome

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love this guy

By the way, the story (although not the “snot boogie” name) is actually true, according to David Simon. It’s in his book “Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets”, which perhaps everybody already knew, but that I love.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on Apr 26, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some of my fav parts of The Wire

were the little real-life moments I recognized from “Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets”. Loved that book.

"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis

by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me Three!

Yea Brian Matusz Day!

It's like a whisp of cotton candy framing a paper cut ~ Bill Hicks

by PBR me ASAP! on Apr 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me Four!!

I’ll be in sec. 77

"Daddy, is Hevan like BIRDLAND?"
"No son, Hevan is BIRDLAND."

by BENNY BIRDMAN on Apr 26, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

me five, and I also didn't realize it was Matusz day.

Thurs and Fri. I have never seen us lose to the Yankees in person (well, not for a decade) and I have never seen us beat Boston.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Apr 27, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If enough of us are going should we try to get together for some beers beforehand?

If so, be fully prepared for my fiance to make fun of us for being internet friends.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 27, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might be up for that

and I’m fully used to getting made fun of.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 27, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

For me, it would really depend on if my friend gets off work early enough

I am 21 now, as well. I still need get the horizontal ID.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Apr 27, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Monday people!

It’s an off day which normally I look forward to but after a win I just want to keep on seeing them play. I am clearly sick in the head.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you sure your an O’s fan? Cause i heard that only happens to Red Sox and Yankees fans.

Matt Wieters Was Drafted 5th Overall Because The First 4 Teams Thought That Harnessing The Power Of Ten-thousand Suns Was Playing God.

by 17oriolesfan on Apr 26, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Off days and Mondays always get me down.

Even when they suck I still look forward to watching a game.

Check out more of my highlights at dailymotion.com/gatecitycanes

by IHeartMASN on Apr 26, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

so i had a dream last night that lugo hit a grand slam..

and they made him our hitting coach? it was the weirdest dream ever….

im even dreaming of horrible orioles decisions… :/

by Parkinglotninja on Apr 26, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Did you dream that they traded Matuz and Wieters cause if so keep it to yourself or you are going to curse us man.

Matt Wieters Was Drafted 5th Overall Because The First 4 Teams Thought That Harnessing The Power Of Ten-thousand Suns Was Playing God.

by 17oriolesfan on Apr 26, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

stat of the day!

http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/HAQkT

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

At least Kam is consistent

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 26, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our bullpen has given up only 3 more runs than average?

It seems more like 30.

#33 for hitting coach. 500 HR >>> 379 hits

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 26, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's the average

If you look at the entire ML, the Orioles are 25th in % of inherited runners scoring, but that’s a little misleading because two of the teams below them have allowed 7 of 15 to score, which is a higher percent, but come on.

Using straight numbers, the Orioles are 26th in the ML with 15. That’s the same as Pittsburgh with the Nats (16), the Dodgers (17), and the Royals (22) behind them.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Q:

Somewhere recent;y, I saw som estats here about pitches taken per at-bat. Stacey, I think it was something you posted.

Is there a site that tracks that? I didn’t see it at B-R. Or did you track it manually……

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Apr 26, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah that was me

If you want to see a player’s pitches/plate appearance, go to their B-R page and click the “more stats” link next to their standard batting stats. Here is Nick’s page: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/markani01-bat.shtml

When I was pointing out how many pitches they saw against specific pitchers I just looked at the box scores and did the math.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

You can also view Pitches/Plate Appearance by team

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BAL/2010-batting.shtml#players_pitches_batting

The O’s as a team have 3.72 P/PA against a league average of 3.87. However, I don’t think the stat satisfies the frustration of the “first pitch GIDP when the pitcher walked the previous batter on four straight pitches”. Anyway, it was worse a week ago when we were sitting at something like 3.55.

There was a stat graphic during one of the last two games that indicated that Tejada has the lowest P/PA in the major leagues. With a whopping 2.80 P/PA, I’ll believe it.

I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 26, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey and they were like, "But he's one of the hardest to strike out!" like that's a good thing

And Brady says, “Well if you don’t even see three pitches it’s pretty hard to strike out.”

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I laughed out loud when Brady said that.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 12:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It was the sort of comment that made me hope he really tries to get into broadcasting

Its a lot harder to teach that sort of insight than it is to fix his broadcasting flaws.

by kba26 on Apr 26, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know a lot of people didn't like Brady

But I enjoyed him. He was well researched about the players, it was obvious he’d seen a lot of the games, and he offered something different than the other guys. He is a little soft spoken and he tended to step on the other guys a little bit, but yeah he can learn his way around that.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Apr 26, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did too

I think its just gonna take a little practice and he could be really good.

by kba26 on Apr 26, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok.

i’d like to actually go a level deeper than this.

is there anywhere that logs actual number of pitches for an individual AB, followed by the result of that AB?

averages are nice, but i’m looking to go a little further. to wit: the ability to say, when this batter takes 1 pitch, he gets on base x% of the time. when he takes 2 pitches, Y%….etc.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Apr 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Try a player's career batting splits on B-R?

It has a section for different counts.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Apr 26, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

It has counts but I don't think it breaks up between like, a called strike and a swinging strike, etc.

But that would probably be a good place to start. I’ve found that if you scour B-R long enough you can find pretty much everything you might ever need.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Box score of any game on B-R

Scroll to Play by Play, click “show pitches”

#33 for hitting coach. 500 HR >>> 379 hits

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that'd be the long way

I just wonder if it’s consolidated anywhere.

This just in: adorableness on the rise, family copes with child getting schooled. Film at 11. -daveh873

by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I can't find it that way

but the data is downloadable and sortable, so it could be thrown into a spreadsheet and manipulated.

#33 for hitting coach. 500 HR >>> 379 hits

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm relooking at this now.

i think it could work if i play around with string functions.

thanks for the tip.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Apr 26, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck

If you get stuck with something, let me know, I may be able to help.

#33 for hitting coach. 500 HR >>> 379 hits

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 26, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did this.

it’s pretty labor-intensive.

you have to look at each line and count up the pitches. hoping to avoid this.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Apr 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

The expanded view counts for you

Example (Jonesy)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BOS/BOS201004250.shtml
PBP > Show Pitches > sort by batter

t1 0-0 0 1— 2,(0-1) CX BAL A. Jones T. Wakefield 5% 59% Reached on E5 (Ground Ball to Weak 3B); Reimold to 2B
t2 1-0 2 12- 2,(0-1) FX O BAL A. Jones T. Wakefield -4% 55% Flyball: CF (Deep CF-RF)
t5 1-0 0 —- 3,(0-2) CSX BAL A. Jones T. Wakefield 4% 67% Single to RF (Line Drive to Short RF)
t7 1-4 1 -2- 3,(0-2) CCX O BAL A. Jones T. Wakefield -4% 10% Groundout: 3B-1B; Reimold to 3B
t9 4-4 1 —- 4,(1-2) BSCS O BAL A. Jones D. Bard -5% 39% Strikeout Swinging
t10 7-4 2 12- 4,(1-2) FF*BS O BAL A. Jones M. Delcarmen -1% 95% Strikeout Swinging

To do what you want is gonna require some spreadsheet trickery, and/or regular expression wizardry. Maybe someone on beyondtheboxscore has figured this out.

#33 for hitting coach. 500 HR >>> 379 hits

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 26, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

this solves it.

I hadn’t seen that there was a sum total of the pitches in the “pitch sequence” column. And it’s conveniently followed by a comma! This is perfect, thanks.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Apr 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

Who makes the call-ups? DT or AM or Combo? and who would have the final say? Credit goes to that guy for RH. Curious to see how Snyder steps his game up. Also why are Fatty and Lugo still on this roster? They have now leap frogged DT on my “People To Fire Today:” list.

by Philly O's on Apr 26, 2010 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

officially, AM makes the call.

Unofficially, I’m sure he factors in DT’s opinion, but also has to weigh other considerations, such as options, what the norfolk people are telling him, and the AIF.*





*Angelos Interference Factor

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on Apr 26, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the AIF.*

so basically a negligible factor since AIF is zero?

by twistedlogic on Apr 26, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, its hardly zero

Though he has seemingly become much better at deferring to his management. And at some point, i don’t think its fair to expect it to be zero since he is ultimately the one writing the checks.

by kba26 on Apr 26, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

who would you guys rather see make 3e1n's next start?

bergesen? arrieta? Someone else?

personally im hoping for bergy…

by Parkinglotninja on Apr 26, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Arrieta

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hendo

keep arrieta down there – although albers and lugo are wasting valuable 40 man spots. I don’t think bringing Jake up in this shit show is going to do any good at this point in time. wait till the bats get going so he doesn’t feel he has to throw no hitters to get a win. why pressure.

I am not sold on Bergy’s one start against charlotte. If he can repeat that the next go around, then yeah i think his confidence/mechanics/etc. is back and they can bring him back up.

Keep Berken in the pen. Don’t screw with whatever is working for him. plus once hendo gets pulled in 4, berken can come in and work.

by Philly O's on Apr 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m not opposed to keeping Arrieta down longer – no reason at all to rush. And I’m definitely in agreement on Bergy – one start against AAA hitters doesn’t mean too much.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This. Hendo/Berken

I would like to see bergesen get 3-5 starts in AAA at least. And Arrieta get at least 5-10.

by snotboogie on Apr 26, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love love love to se Arrieta come up

but i’d much rather see Berg come back up and look like his 2009 self.

"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!

by daveh873 on Apr 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I kind of think he needs one more start down there, but I’d like to think he’s turned it around. If he comes back and struggles again, how long do you stick with him?

by tjk on Apr 26, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I felt bad for 3E1N

especially during his last start against TB, he had horrendous luck and really only made three mistakes (granted, they were all three-run jobs) but otherwise he looked pretty good, outside of the craptastic home runs.

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 26, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Arrieta

I would like to see 3E1N replicate his performance in Norfolk a 2nd time, then bring him back up if he is back on track.

If Arrieta has a good outing, it’ll be a good confidence boost for him. If he struggles, no big deal, he gets his ‘cup of coffee’ and we send him back down to continue his development.

It's like a whisp of cotton candy framing a paper cut ~ Bill Hicks

by PBR me ASAP! on Apr 26, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

he is not on the 40 man

so i dont think it will be as easy as bringing him up for one game. Correct me if I am wrong with that though.

by Philly O's on Apr 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm never entirely clear on what these rules are

but i’d also hate to burn an option just for him to come up and make a couple starts. I’d waiting until they’re confident that it’ll be an extended stay before bringing him up.

by kba26 on Apr 26, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

cough lugo cough atkins cough

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

here ya go, buddy

wait, are you trying to say something?

cxcxcxcxzzzzzzzzz

by Steve. on Apr 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

see its funny

because he was coughing, but it sounded like he was saying lugo and atkins. weird.

by kba26 on Apr 26, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed..i like that idea now that u mention it

why nto give bergy one more trial run in norfolk and just see if the kids ready…for a one time go at it…

on the negative side its either against MFY or PHN i dont remember which..but either team is going to be a challenge

by Parkinglotninja on Apr 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed...ive hated albert forever

even before it was cool..lol

he has been nothing but terrible since he came back from his injury

by Parkinglotninja on Apr 26, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would've gotten away with it...

Y’know, the whole Fat Albers thing and all.

Last year, late, against TB, I watched Albers field a slow chopper to the 1B side of the mound, pirouette, and fire the ball into the hole where the SS normally plays, into LF, scoring two runs. I have to assume he was aiming for 3B, but I can’t be too sure.

I was about three rows up, and you could hear Wieters say to Albers, “Well that was fucking stupid”.

As a matter of fact, I believe that was the game when WW got into some trouble with an usher or something.

by TerroristFistJab on Apr 26, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

As if I needed more reasons to love SHJ

"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble

by duck on Apr 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

There went my day

I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 26, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my God...

I think I might die from laughter. I need professional help.

I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 26, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahhaa

this is brilliant. almost like this

by twistedlogic on Apr 26, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could see these...

"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble

by duck on Apr 26, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea i cant see those either

and normally i dont have much blocked here

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by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Made the mistake of trying to see th epage

And got: Content blocked by firewall. Category: Tasteless

I don’t EVEN want to know…

I’m lying, I totally want to know!

"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble

by duck on Apr 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

I wondered why it was marked that and it turns out there’s some pretty questionable content elsewhere on that domain. We’re posting relatively benign responses on a template picture of Diamond Dave. However, it seems the site has some less-harmless source images. So I can see why it might be blocked. Yikes.

But hey, there’s something to look forward to when you go home.

I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

these arent tasteless at all!

i guess your firewall CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH

by twistedlogic on Apr 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still laughing at the fact

my county’s firewall has “Tasteless” as a category to be filtered.

"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble

by duck on Apr 26, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's pretty intense

dont think ive seen that one before

by twistedlogic on Apr 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaannnd

#33 for hitting coach. 500 HR >>> 379 hits

by CoachOfEarl on Apr 26, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

AHAHAHAAAH these are awesome

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by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hee

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by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

lunch break fun

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by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

----

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by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

subject

"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis

by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Just got to try this.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Apr 26, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not big to me

It’s the smallest one that’s been posted, right? on my screen

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by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody on OriolesHangout

photoshopped a hilarious picture of Albers actually throwing a meatball to go along with this one.

by VB O's Guy on Apr 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

AMAZING.

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by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

+10, lol

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by Titov on Apr 26, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.

by birdman on Apr 26, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Which pitcher

Leave Bergy at Norfolk until he is really, really ready to return. Remember, he did not have a normal off season and spring training. Leave Arrieta where he is until after the All Star Break at least. Leave Berken in the pan. Let Hendo start for a while.

by BaltoBen on Apr 26, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

What's all this talk about Trembley leaving?

Has there been a rumor from the front office, or is just talk among fans?

by Bad Horse on Apr 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF Phillies

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5137456

Is he really worth $25 mil per year, also even non stat heads probably think this guy wont age well

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by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 26, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

That's insane

"Hey Yankees... you can take your apology and your trophy and shove 'em straight up your ass!" --Tanner Boyle

by BirdFanInPhilly on Apr 26, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amaro scares me.

Not liking this deal.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Apr 26, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fielder and Pujols are gonna bring in 30+ a year.

This move was bad for baseball.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the hell?

Is there any way at all he’s remotely worth that money? I mean… any way whatsoever?

I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)

by Eat More Esskay on Apr 26, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Massive inflation, maybe.

That’s about it.

Weaver's Fourth Law: Your most precious possessions on offense are your twenty-seven outs.

by Vuff on Apr 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lot of money

for a guy who still cant hit a curveball

by kba26 on Apr 26, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

atkins is at espnzone on wednesday

doing Q and A and autographs.

i think ill pass. thank you

by Parkinglotninja on Apr 26, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve got some Q and A for him…

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Q: Why can’t you hit?
A: Because you’re Garrett Atkins.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Q AND A

1) Why are your teeth so large?

by Parkinglotninja on Apr 26, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Q: Why are you on this team?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 26, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

q. Do you know what happens at the end of lost?

by Parkinglotninja on Apr 26, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'tangle.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the's the assignment he's getting designated for

"You accept mediocrity and you get mediocrity." - Adam Jones, Son!

by daveh873 on Apr 26, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw Rhyne Hughes posted on Facebook at 1:57 p.m.
Rhyne Hughes is taking his first round of BP at Camden Yards, gonna try and hit a few on Eutaw Street!

Or…his brother posted that maybe? Someone said he is the one who runs it.

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by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

ha ha

Just came here to post this.

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by zknower on Apr 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rhyne Hughes down!

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by NewYorkOriole on Apr 26, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random Question

My girlfriend is heading to Baltimore tomorrow for a work conference and I told her I’d ask if where the best places to grab some food in the inner harbor area are.

I’ve only been to a handful of games and it’s always a quick trip so I have little knowledge of the area. What are the “must go” places around the stadium, food, O’s gear (obviously the team store, but anywhere else?), etc?

by Gorilla Bird on Apr 26, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

In the immediate inner harbor area, there is not much that is good and unique

Lots of touristy chains. However: if she wants the best crabcake in all of human creation, I mean Baltimore Nirvana….she can make a short little trip to Faidley’s in Lexington Market. Walkable from the harbor, and worth it. Tell her to order a “jumbo lump and a Boh.”

Map.

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by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

Thanks!

I’ll be sure to hit that up when I can make it up for a game this summer.

by Gorilla Bird on Apr 26, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was a great comeback.
Too bad Boston’s bullpen is worse than yours.

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 26, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually

Our bullpen is worse (WHIP, ERA, BA, W-L record, etc…)

by wishEYEhadCRABS on Apr 26, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

OTOH

Your rotation is currently worse than ours

by wishEYEhadCRABS on Apr 26, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHA

Our bullpen fucking blows.

This series is taking years off of my life.

by Knubles and Bits on Apr 26, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

i wish it were so…

"nicely done."
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by danielreese05 on Apr 26, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

How 'bout this:

We give you our bullpen, and you give us Youkilis (we need a 1st baseman), Lowell (great guy, DH and backup 3rd baseman) and Varitek (Yoda to Wieters’ Luke Skywalker).

"Believe it or not, I read the paper." - Nick Markakis

by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

dont pass up

this oportunity to smack pedrioa upside his head

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 26, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm actually the token Orioles fan who kinda loves Pedroia.

Shorty solidarity, and all that. He’s everything I would be if I were a baseball player: short and angry. I find him hilarious.

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by 2632 on Apr 26, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. But we will give you Delcarmen for a bag of balls.
Deos this sound good?

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 27, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if they are Albers'

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 27, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

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by bestbostonsports on Apr 27, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting fact about my fantasy team

I drafted three Orioles to my team. Chris Tillman ended up going to AAA, I had to drop Felix Pie because of his long term injury, and Ty Wigginton, who I took as a joke in the 23rd round, has been one of my most productive players. In fact, only BJ Upton and Matt Garza on my team have earned more fantasy points than Wiggy.

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by Stacey on Apr 26, 2010 6:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I took Miggy and Matusz in my draft

Miggy as a backup SS though, I totally forgot he’d be 3B eligbile during the draft. Just picked up Wiggs and for better or worse I’m going to end up with whoever is closing for us (unless Gonzo takes it). Wo/all of the inherited runners scoring Matusz would easily be among the top MLB pitchers so far this season.

Are you in an AL-only league?

by wishEYEhadCRABS on Apr 26, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

if jonesey is really breakin out of his slump

is he worth a start this week for my fantasy team?? big game, 2 undefeated squads going at it. i’ve got matsui, vlad guerrero, matt holiday, and jayson werth.

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by danielreese05 on Apr 26, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

weekly league, or daily?

If its weekly, i’d probably hold off for one more week to make sure if its for real. Daily, i’d probably throw him out there tomorrow and hope to ride the short term streak and be able to pull him back if it doesnt go well.

by kba26 on Apr 26, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah weekly

that was my feeling too, i just kept it as is. if it ain’t broke…

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by danielreese05 on Apr 26, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, that's the best bet

Who are you going to sit? Vlad? MatSushi’s been hitting since day one and Holliday and Werth are pretty much studs. Who’s your dh (if there is one in your league)?

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by daveh873 on Apr 26, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

vlad's my utility

im keeping him in he’s on fire right now. my team is:
C: Mauer, 1B: Kendry Morales, 2B: Brandon Phillips, 3B: A-Rod, SS: Alex Gonzalez, OF: Matsui, Werth, Holiday, U: Vlad.

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by danielreese05 on Apr 26, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that team alot

I wouldnt mess with it to get Jones in until he’s on a legit tear

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by daveh873 on Apr 26, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

it gets the job done.

except for this week. day 1 and im getting roughed UP.

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by danielreese05 on Apr 26, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

For all you off day music fans out there...

…I just got my copy of the debut B.o.B. album, good stuff.

b dot o, but i know that i flow rack them up knock them down dominos

by WestcoastO'sFan on Apr 26, 2010 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

woo! B.o.B's nice. as long as we're on the topic...

do you know state radio? i saw them saturday. great show.

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by danielreese05 on Apr 26, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yo duck

i know you’re a big hair metal fan, i was wondering if you heard what happened to brett michaels?

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by danielreese05 on Apr 26, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Brain bleeding

and they can’t find the source. Stabalized, but they need to find the source of the bleeding.

"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble

by duck on Apr 27, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

somehow, i had a feeling you might know

"nicely done."
"this is mike gonzalez. harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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by danielreese05 on Apr 27, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I HATE Poison

They’re as bad as Air Supply.

"I strongly suggest watching the O’s play while on a powerful, legal, prescribed narcotic. All the COLORS!!!!! and that Dempsey really makes sense. " - Adam double bubble

by duck on Apr 28, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops-- it just occurred to me that the phrase "Personification of all that is Birdland" could be seen as "non-neutral vote solicitation"

Look, if we don’t have this discussion now, it’ll just come up all over again in 10 days/2 wks, after our next win

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