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Phase 1.5

"I'm apologetic to fans who pay to come and watch the Orioles and watch us lose, in this case, because of me. I'm apologetic to teammates for the inability to help them win a game in four starts." -- Jeremy Guthrie

Let us examine this quote for a moment. Sure, Mr. Guthrie went a little overboard with the apologies, yes he pitched well enough in all his previous starts, giving the Orioles the chance to win in each of them. But Jeremy Guthrie brings up a good point.  "[T]o fans who pay to come and watch the Orioles and watch us lose," that is right. Our fans have paid good money this year only to see our team win once at home. But wait there is more. Is it not the job of the Baltimore Oriole organization to win games? Yes, of course it is.

This is done one of two ways. First, when you have the skills within your major league club, you field the best possible team, at least six out of every seven games. Second, when you don't have the talent, you prepare your team, each and every game to, as soon as possible, create that talent.

To figure out what route the Orioles need to take you must first examine what they are working with and what the expectations are. Coming into this year, the big goal was taking a shot at the .500 mark. We would achieve this goal, with a foundation of young hitters and young pitchers coupled with some newer veterans. The goal being, the veterans fill in for, Josh Bell, Brandon Snyder, and the numerous pitching prospects. Thus, we have a mix of young and old, future Orioles and stopgaps.

Now look where this team is. Four and Eighteen. A .182 winning percentage. The worst team in baseball. A 0-3, a 1-5, even say a 1-10 start could be brushed off as a poor week to the season that will soon be forgotten. But look at the Astros, they started at zero and eight. Now, they are 8-12, not a great record, but going on a 8-4 run shows that they picked it up after an awful start. Four and eighteen is more then a bad start. It's a poor team that doesn't have whatever it takes to change how they play.

So how do you fix a clearly broken team. You first inspect it. 9th in the AL in batting average, 13th in walks, last in runs, and if you take out Ty Wiggington, second to last in the long ball. In the AL, we are 12th in fielding percentage and fourth in errors. Meanwhile we are 14th in ERA, well you have seen this team, it seems like our pitching has been our bright spot. So where does this high team ERA come from? The short answer, Bergesen (14 er), Albers (9 er), The back end of the bullpen (Johnson and Gonzo) and the last Guthrie start. Pitching clearly is not really the issue here, other then a few bullpen flukes.

Now lets fix the problem. Julio Lugo 3-28, he has no place on this team in the future, he is struggling, there are a bevy of utility players in baseball. Make the fans happy, get rid of Julio Lugo, point blank. Lou Montanez, 4-27, a call up filling in for the hurt Pie. Would it hurt to call up Jeff Salazar, 20-67 with 3 homers and 13 runs batted in, sure he is older then Lou, but if the goal is to win games, why keep him in there. It's the same theory behind having Hughes play for Atkins, whoever can hit gets the job. Then there is Luke Scott, we all love Luke, but he has always  been a streaky hitter, either super hot or super cold. We probably lost our chance to trade him, so we really have no choice but to platoon him. Garrett Atkins has been very bad, but is he DFA' able? His 19 total bases barely beats out Nolan Reimold. Because of his "caliber" and the lack of a back up, he probably gets at least another month before you start to entertain thoughts of letting him go. In the mean time you hope that either Josh Bell, Scott Moore, Snyder heats up and if either does soon, you should say adios to Atkins.

In the mean time Hughes is doing a good job covering for him and should take a permanent spot in the lineup. Now you have a list of players who are doing well enough, Izturis, Tejada, Wieters, Wiggy, and now Nick. But that leaves us with Adam Jones and Nolan Reimold. I say you keep trotting them out there, as long as they are healthy, until they start hitting. But when a hitter is in a slump he needs instruction, he needs someone to point to his swing and make him change it, or point to his approach and make him change it. Let the crow go. If the record gets any worse, which it probably will, you have to let go of Diamond Dave, let people know that you want things to shake up and change, while you are at it, pat Terry Crowley on the back, say thank you for your time, but now you most go.

For the bullpen we should be getting some help from AAA and Koji, with Brad coming up soon, maybe Tillman and maybe Arrieta. This means folks like Albers can pack their packs and it opens the possibility to trade a Millwood or a Guthrie at some point.

In the mean time the front office needs to show they mean to put out the best possible team. The Baltimore Orioles are a major league team, not a AAA team. They need to play like a major league team, the players on this organization have failed to do so in this horrendous 22 game span. Being a Major League baseball player is an honor and a privilege that must be earned. Right now, very few of these players have deserved a spot on a Major League roster this year. Start cutting ties with the players who can't prove themselves, make the Orioles players earn their spot. Let them know that if they aren't ready to play in the Majors that the team is willing to put in someone who is. Rhyne Hughes for Garrett Atkins.

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by BrianS on Apr 29, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you

I don’t know how many people got this, but I did and laughed my underpants off

John S West Jr

by Adam double bubble on Apr 30, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Westy, this is a great post, man.

Coming into this year, the big goal was taking a shot at the .500 mark.

I’m not sure .500 was really realistic or expected this year. I’d certainly hoped they could do it, but it probably would have been a little surprising. It seems like 2011 was the year both the “experts” and many people here were saying they’d “click”, but that’s a lot of problems to get ironed out in one offseason.

I agree with you about Salazar for Lou (I admit I don’t really know who Salazar is). If Lou were a young guy that we hoped would be a part of the club going forward, I would say we shouldn’t sacrifice his future development to win games in a wasted year. But Lou doesn’t seem to be a real prospect .(DEAL WITH IT.) Bring up a hot bat from AAA and try to win some games and entertain the fans.

Wait long enough on the young guys to avoid enabling them to go to free agency a year earlier, as they did w/Wieters, and might as well call some young guys up.

by BrianS on Apr 30, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

One correction
Then there is Luke Scott, we all love Luke

NOT THIS GUY!!!

But I agree – cut Lugo, Albers, and Fatkins. Fuck those fucking guys.

Then have Pie hurry the fuck up and get healthy so we can bench AJ’s bitch ass.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 30, 2010 1:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Per fixing AJ:

Stop batting him leadoff. He can’t get on base. Knock him down to 6 or 7. Have the “well enough” Izzy bat leadoff, not that that’s always worked out in the past, but it makes more sense now than to have AJ there. Or maybe even Nolan, at least he’s getting walks.

And I totally agree — we need to stop wallowing in our own crapulence and cut the shitty players. Wifebeater should be first to go. He is unnecessary.

by O Nina on Apr 30, 2010 7:59 AM EDT reply actions  

If MacPhail hears a good multi-prospect offer

For Adam Jones, I wouldn’t be opposed to taking it. But right now, I can’t see that happening.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Apr 30, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I doubt anybody would want him right now. The time to do that was the all-star break last year…

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 30, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be selling low now

But at the all star break last year but if you trade all your good players as soon as they show signs of life you never end up with that superstar that he looked like he was going to be. He’s still real young though

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I’m not saying they should have done it last year, but if you were trying to trade him that would have been the time to do it. Hopefully this is just a slump and he’ll be fine.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 30, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that makes more sense

"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law

by Reddrummer9187 on Apr 30, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 100 game slump?

as unfeasible as it is right now, I’d like to see him go back to AAA for a while

by brek on Apr 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it’s certainly a really long slump

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on Apr 30, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is definitely an arguement for letting him play until he's 26 before we even think of moving him.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on May 1, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's a bit early to declare him a bust

and why would you want to sell low? the return wouldn’t be worth the upside that Jones provides.

I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.

by birdman on Apr 30, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?

I meant get rid of Lugo… not Jones. I thought “Wifebeater” was a giveaway…

by O Nina on Apr 30, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really want it to happen

But if it did hypothetically happen, I’d say In MacPhail We Trust and it wouldn’t turn me off from the team.

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on May 1, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say get rid of AJ

I meant Lugo… Wife-beater.

I don’t know what’s up with AJ (putting too much pressure on himself?) but he needs to NOT hit leadoff while he figures it out. That’s all I wanted to say. And get Lugo off the team.

by O Nina on Apr 30, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got a plan

“We are gonna … we are gonna go out there, during this break, and we are gonna come back with a plan. We’re gonna come back with a plan for you. It’s a 45-day plan. 45 days! To get us back, on track. 45 points! It’s a 45-day, 45-point, one point per day. We get 45 points, we’re back in business! [cheers] And you can take that to the bank! And limo lady! We are going completely carbon-neutral! [more cheers] I love you New York! You! You!”

Point 45: Win the WS
Ok let’s work backward from there

"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."

by NewYorkOriole on Apr 30, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Good stuff! Rec'd
Would it hurt to call up Jeff Salazar, 20-67 with 3 homers and 13 runs batted in, sure he is older then Lou, but if the goal is to win games, why keep him in there. It’s the same theory behind having Hughes play for Atkins, whoever can hit gets the job.

100% agree. Bring a hot bat up and see what he can do.

by Jordan Tuwiner on Apr 30, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what DD said about Hughes

To the effect of…“He’s the hottest bat we have in the system, let’s bring him up and see what he does. We need a spark.”

So, let’s send Lou back down and bring up Salazar. Why not?

"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey

by duck on Apr 30, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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