Monday Bird Droppings
by duck on May 17, 2010 7:04 AM EDT
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Recaps of yesterday's boring, nothing to see here, move along loss can be found at The Sun, Orioles.com, The Associated Press, and News-Herald.
Post-game Trembley - MASNsports.com
There's non-committal, there's silence that speaks volumes, and then there's Dave Trembley talking about first base. Each day Garrett Atkins comes into the locker room and still has a nameplate should be a pleasant surprise for him. -duck
The frustration level mounts - MASNsports.com
And just to add to the mountain of evidence of why Garrett Atkins is, um, lucky to be in baseball, he's hit no homers this year while playing 1B and he's driven in one run in 18 games. One. Uno. Un. Ichi. That's bad. -duck
Britt's Bird Watch: Reimold's future plans?
Garrett Atkins has officially been put on notice - Nolan Reimold started at 1B on Sunday at Norfolk. It won't be the last time he does, either. -duck
Orioles Notebook: Shoulder ailing Hernandez - Carroll County Times
Also notes about the return of Alberto Castillo and the recuperation of Mike Gonzalez. -zk
Pssst...Wanna Buy a Field?
The cornfield and baseball diamond used in the 1989 film Field of Dreams are up for sale. Only $5.4 million. -zk
Reimold's homer helps Tides end drought | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com
Nolan Reimold hit a two-run homer in his third game since being sent down from the Baltimore Orioles to lift the Norfolk Tides to a 5-4 victory over Buffalo on Sunday. -zk
Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps - May 16
Norfolk lost, but won, as Nolan Reimold homered, Bowie was shut out despite Chorye Spoone pitching well, Frederick won as Bobby Stevens went 3-for-4 and Delmarva lost as Tyler Kolodny (that's Tyler #4 to you) was the only Shorebird to do anything worthwhile. -duck
NON-BASEBALL, BUT...
Friends remember 'devil's horns' metal music great Ronnie James Dio as kind soul - baltimoresun.com
"Even as he endured grueling chemotherapy treatments to rid his stomach of cancer , Ronnie James Dio showed the fiery passion that made him a metal legend, flashing his famous devil's horns signal as he lay in a hospital bed." Go watch "The Mob Rules," "Man on the Silver Mountain", "Last in Line" and "Heaven and Hell". Especially "The Mob Rules". You will thank me later.
AND LAST AND CERTAINLY LEAST...
At least the Orioles went down quickly - baltimoresun.com
This might be the dumbest thing I have ever read from Kevin Cowherd. Just a sampler:
"But now the drumbeat is getting louder for Crowley's head, too.
Me, I don't get it.
The guy has been a major league hitting coach for 24 years. This is his 16th season as an Orioles coach. What happened — did he suddenly get stupid? Suddenly forget everything he knew about hitting?"
Yes, Kevin, just because a man has had his job for 16 years must mean he's doing it perfectly. I'll let y'all post the offensive futility over the last decade and a half. Teh stupid, it burns... -duck
And don't forget to give your ideas for Diamond Dave's Daily WTF?
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Nolan Reimold hit a two-run homer… to lift the Norfolk Tides to a 5-4 victory over Buffalo on Sunday.
Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps – May 16 — Norfolk lost
Sorry to be “that guy” again. :P
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
At least you catch it early...,
Will fix when I get to school.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
by duck on May 17, 2010 7:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think the better statement is: duck must be sorry to be "that guy" again
jeez duck. i thought this was a quality news area with facts checked and press releases read. GOSH.
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I am sorry I have failed you
I will go use the family’s ancestral sword to finish my shame. Stacey will now be in charge of BD.
May my children and wife forgive me…
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
har har har
okay maybe BDs arent THAT important
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
so, seriously...
if this was discussed yesterday, forgive me, but whose cornflakes did jason berken befoul? i mean, wasn’t yesterday a situation sort of crying out for a spot start from that guy? certainly can’t cite overuse.
that being said, why call up alberto castillo? is this team’s problem a lack of bullpen arms or the inability to score runs? i suppose run prevention is a problem, too, but you’re really not going to win too many games scoring just one or two runs. how many solo shots can luke scott hit?
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
Hard to say we don't have enough arms
when Jason Berken had 4.2 IP in 2 appearances and Matt Albers had 4 appearances with 3.0 IP before yesterday for the entire month of May, and today’s the 17th.
And stats sites really need to have a way to show inherited runners who scored.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
B-R has it
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/BAL/2010-pitching.shtml#players_reliever_pitching
(from the team page, go to Team Pitching, click More Stats, scroll to Team Relief Pitching, and check out the IR, IS, and IS% numbers there.
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
Thank you very much!
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
No problem
I posted it before when someone was talking about how they thought Oh,man was a good reliever, but I don’t think it got noticed.
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
18 of 38 games with three runs or less...
Nearly half the games with two runs or less. Wow. I listened to one game this weekend because Matusz was pitching and got to hear the fifth(sixth?) blown game when the O’s were leading in the 8th. I turned it off before all eight runs were scored.
It’s just demoralizing to talk about all that is going wrong.The WTFDD entries just drove the point home. It doesn’t matter much how anyone shuffles this lineup. They suck. Time for a more extended break from this team.
i hear ya
Shuffling bench players around is not going to make this team better. At this point drastic changes need to be made. We all know DT is making terrible decisions and B-Rob, Pie, Gonzo cannot be used as an excuse anymore. He needs to put his players in a position to succeed. I don’t understand how a team can look good at the plate one day and completely lost the next. I asked this before, is it the lack of preparation for opposing pitchers? Is this Crow’s fault? Does Kranitz ever provide his input on the bullpen during the game? Are the failures of this team due to DT or him not recognizing and dealing with the failures of his coaching staff? As a fan – who am I to blame?
I dunno
That’s the problem when so many facets of the team have problems.
The young guys aren’t performing as hoped/expected (e.g. Jones, Reimold).
Is it injury? Sophmore slumps? Player development (I don’t think the O’s have a sterling reputation in player development)? Players are rushed? The guys aren’t as good as hoped or hyped?
Atkins, Gonzo: MacPhail? Bad scouting? MacPhail can’t personally witness and judge every single player. He has to rely on someone. The O’s are content to go cheap and take chances on lesser talent and these guys blew up in their faces? A combination of all of the above?
The O’s have had a crummy BP for years. Again, maybe poor talent evaluation or development and rushing players?
Why all the injuries?
Poor team hitting: Beyond the obvious black holes at 1B and SS, is it poor preparation? Players pressing too much? Crowley?
Are players demoralized to the point they aren’t performing to their potential. Will a new manager light a fire? How about a batting coach? A new anything?
You get my drift. It’s impossible to sit where we are and understand all that is going wrong. Hell, I wonder if the front office has the aggregate acumen to understand and react. Andy MacPhail says things will get straightened out. Who knows when. I guess if we see some drastic moves we’ll then understand what he thinks is at least part of the problem. I personally think this straightening out is a many years long process. It’s tough to generate excitement from that perspective.
I think that in some ways, the injuries are most concerning.
I don’t know how or why you allow, let alone seemingly encourage, Roberts/Pie/Reimold to play when they’re not 100% — especially when it’s to start a season, and especially when it’s a season in which we weren’t/aren’t going to contend anyway. And the sheer quantity is awful. One going down would’ve been typical, two would’ve been bad luck, but three? And then Gonzalez and Johnson, too?
Yeah, I want to see Roberts and our LF duo out there. But I would’ve much preferred to see Luke in LF and Turner at 2B for the first couple weeks and have had them back for a month by now, rather than this debacle.
I really don’t know what they knew when or even what they should’ve known, but with as much as has happened, it’s hard not to think that somebody dropped the ball big time.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
agree
and that is why I am not 100% out for DT’s head (more like 95%). And especially when the players are not saying how they really feel.
I was at the Saturday game....
(sigh)
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on May 17, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
RIP RJD
Now that man had a voice.
And Holy Diver is one of the greatest songs of all time.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
agreed!
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 17, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Always kinda partial to "Rainbow in the Dark" and "Last in Line"
And his two albums with Sabbath were AMAZING.
Check out that first video of “The Mob Rules”. Filmed within the last 5 years or so. really good sound quality from the DVD.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Excellent choice
especially off of LIVEEVIL
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
RIP, very sad
Wow, that Mob Rules video is awesome! Makes me regret even more that I skipped the H&H show at Merriweather last year. No second chance for that now.
Thanks, Dio, for letting us know there were two outs. You rocked!!
Has there ever been a cooler Oriole than Eddie Murray? I mean, just straight up cool. Like a bad, suave dude. You know what I'm sayin'. COOL. SC 7/24/08
by 33 on May 18, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The next time someone tries convincing me that this year will be different
Please remind me of the year 2010.
I hate the Orioles.
But we're Camden Chat!
It’s always next year here!
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
it IS different...
the orioles are finding new and exciting ways to lose this year.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 17, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
yes...
new and exciting ways to suck.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 17, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
On the subject of tenure being unequal to skill
How long has Kevin Cowherd been at The Sun?
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
by Brotz13 on May 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Perfect summation
Well done, sir.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
And with some of the changes in player evaluation and development that have occurred over the past decade or so, a long tenure could even be a negative
Kevin Cowherd on Technology: ’I’ve never seen someone so fast on a typewriter, what do you mean he can’t fix a computer?’
today is a sad day for me.
centsports has officially been blocked by my companies i.p. :(
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 17, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions
Weaver's Tantrum
has a good rebuttal to that Cowherd article.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I liked in one of his other posts...
he mentioned something that seems to get lost….over the last 20 games, we’re 10-10. At least we’re playing .500 ball NOW, even though there are glaring holes to be filled….
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on May 17, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Cowherd
Cowherd is a worthless sports commentator. He never has anything interesting or insightful to say. His views are simply his own uninformed opinion.
Yup, I think it's been posted here
And it’s hilarious. We should do one. Submit picture nominations here!
There’s Lou I can’t hit it, deal with it.
There’s Lugo trying to take a dump.
There’s Gumby, er Mark Hendrickson.
Lady Liberty
Luke with his tongue out.
Adams Jones looking surprised because he scored.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
Lugo or Scott
I say this one: There’s Lugo trying to take a dump.
or this one: Luke with his tongue out.
by Jordan Tuwiner on May 17, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think somebody with photoshop skills should take cut out Lugo, take out Indiana Jones and put Lugo in front of the boulder from this picture.
Is there a free photoshop program available?
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
GIMP
Do a search for it. No, I’m not kidding.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
yeah, but there's free software and there's junk.
I’m assuming people have some experience in distinguishing between the two.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
GIMP is fine for basic image manipulation
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
oh!
I thought you were calling me a gimp! like pulp fiction gimp!
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
And GIMP is far from junk
It may not be quite photoshop, but it probably can do anything a non-professional needs to.
or take out William Dafoe and put in Lugo.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
Here it is...
sorry if the images is too big…search feature isn’t working so I couldn’t find the rules. I didn’t include a title though.
by Jordan Tuwiner on May 17, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Little help?
None of the mods were able to witness the game yesterday. Were there any DDWTF moments? Or did he actually manage competently for a change…..
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
No WTF moments are really jumping out for me.
It was just a typical sucky loss.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
well we lost
so chances are, there had to be a nice fuck up moment. that said, i didnt actually see the game.
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
it was boring
nothing really out of the usual
"Being an Orioles fan is like having Erectile Dysfunction"
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
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by danielreese05 on May 17, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
personally i would go with not giving berken the start
hendo is a no go for me…i really like him as a reliever…
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 17, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I put up some 'tongue-in-cheek' ideas at the end of the game thread yesterday
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 17, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's my DDDWTF moment
How is it that the day after unveiling the new feature, for pretty much the first time this season he has a game with no WTF moves? Now that’s a WTF.
I think CC can claim credit for this. Clearly we’ve brought some accountability to the process, if only temporarily.
I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)
by Eat More Esskay on May 17, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry to double-post.
Maybe you could argue that he should’ve pulled Hendo earlier? I can’t remember if he was really looking gassed or not, but having him go 5+ innings when he’s only gone 2.1 so far this year may not have been the best plan, and Hendo did give up two runs in the fifth. Not really a WTF moment, though; more like an “Ehh…” moment.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
nothing beyond the usual
CP and AJ hitting 1-2 being the main crime he insists on commiting
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 17, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Given his options...
and AJ’s “success” in the #2 spot, I’m actually OK with this. Who else is gonna lead off? Miggi? Wiggi? Markakis?
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Actually
I wouldn’t mind seeing Miggi, Markakis, and Wiggy being 1-2-3. Miggi always hits into those stupid double plays and even though his OBP is .320 so far, thats better than CP and AJ.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a shocking development
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
I am genuinely surprised about how low that is
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 17, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
you'll be happy to know,then...
that miggi’s old partner in hackitude, the most memlocious mr. mora, is hitting into in enough DPs for the both of ’em. in limited action, even!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 17, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
just think if we had BOTH of them
there wouldnt be enough double play opportunities to go around!
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If I had to point out 1 thing in particular
I would go w/ leaving Castillo in to start the 9th. He came in w/ 1 out and a man on 1st in the 8th. He promptly got Choo to GIDP to end the inning. But why would he leave Castillo in to start the 9th against Kearns? Kearns doubles, then Branyan homers making it 5-0. The game was pretty much out of reach already at 3-0, but adding 2 more runs takes the save situation out of the picture, allowing them to leave ‘Cy’ Westbrook out there to complete his gem. Maybe having their bullpen in play in the 9th changes things, maybe not.
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 17, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
well, i'm confused
we always criticize dave when he has a guy come in for one batter and then replaces him.
this is a case where he had a guy come in for one batter and then let him start the next inning. makes sense to me.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
This. So fucking this.
After witnessing the revolving-door that was Saturday’s 8th inning, I’ve pretty much decided that DD needs the keys taken from him, a man no longer fit to make moves when it counts.
What was the point of pulling Albers after getting one batter? Even if Branyan went deep, they were still up one, with more RH guys coming up. I know Albers is ass, but still, why even dress him and keep him on the 25 man ig he can’t get one freaking righty out!?
by TerroristFistJab on May 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I agree that DD has a tendency to play 'Reliever Roulette'
But in this instance, I think leaving Castillo in to start the 9th was unwise. Aside from the 2nd batter of the inning (Branyan) the rest of the lineup was all rightys. Castillo did his job in the 8th, and good enough should have been left alone.
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The only thing I thought was dumb
was that he just had to use his new toy. Castillo sucks. There are so many better arms in the pen that are well rested. Use anyone but Castillo. I guess ya work with what they give you, but you don’t have to use him right away in a game that is still (by MLB standards, not our own) winnable.
That being said, we werer already down by 3. We weren’t going to win. I knew it was coming because that is what DD does. He didn’t do anything too egregious, but that’s all I got.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It seems that he ALWAYS uses a new reliever the day he's brought up.
I don’t know if I’m for or against that, but it’s weird.
Tidbit from ESPN's TMI blog:
A few Orioles pitchers seem to have developed an unlikely skill: working their way out of a 2-0 hole. Brad Bergesen, Jeremy Guthrie and Kevin Millwood each rank among the league leaders in lowest opponent batting average allowed after a 2-0 count. Perhaps it’s because they’ve had so much practice. Millwood and Guthrie are tied with Tim Lincecum for the most 2-0 counts this season with 32.
(I don’t think that last bit is worth worrying about; Guts and Mentor have given us a lot of innings, which is part of why they’ve had so many 2-0 counts. Rate of 2-0 counts would be more interesting.)
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
The mentoring has paid off!!!
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm surprised
with how well millwood is doing this yr. if he keeps his era at .350 or below and gives us innings like he will, is anyone opposed to sigining him for another yr?
I wouldn't be oppossed
to signing him for another 2 years. Slowly work him back in the rotation over the next few years as the young guys come into the rotation. Just for the fact that the guy will keep you in games and eat up minutes is enough to keep him, IMO.
Time to start the official "Hire Eddie Murray" as hitting coach campaign.
He's 35 years old
two years seems a little risky. I’d rather 1) trade him, or 2) offer him arbitration at the end of the year.
+1
Extra picks if he leaves, or one year deals if he decides to stay, i like it a lot.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Arbitration will mean we’ll pay $13, $14 million. I’d rather take the draft picks if he’s eligible.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
brain fart,
probably pass on him then. he’s going have to keep up current performance, which of course won’t happen, in order to insure a bigger payday than arbitration.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
I think we have room for 1 "vet" after this year
Matusz is here to stay. If Berg’s beggining to the year was the abberation then he’s got a spot. Tillman will probably be here soon and you have to figure he’s gonna get a real shot at sticking this time. Arrieta will probably get some starts this year and i’d imagine he starts next season in the rotation.
So what it comes down to is do you want Millwood or Guthrie being the vet in the rotation. They are both FA’s next year. Personally i’d like to trade either of them if we can get a decent return, but based on age and cost i’d keep Guts around one more year and say so long to Millwood.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I'm pretty sure
Guthrie has two more arbitration years left… From what I recall, before ’09, they reduced his salary, and 2010 was the first year for which he was arbitration-eligible.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
he had an option that vested for this year (the 12M one)
thats all thats left
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
...That's Millwood, not Guthrie, right?
Guts is making $3 million this year.
http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/baltimore-orioles_112321768568552760.html
This last offseason was the first time he was eligible for arbitration, so he has two more arb years, right?
Not really trying to make a point here, just get the facts. But it probably means that Guts would have more trade value, but would also be significantly cheaper to hang onto than Millwood.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
shoot your right
my bad, maybe i’m not as good at multi-tasking as i think
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 17, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, crap.
Just realized thanks to Roch that Bergy’s starting against the Royals tonight.
Brad Bergesen.
Billy Butler.
WHO WILL OWN IT?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Nick Johnson's going under the knife again
Probably out until July. Guess not signing him was a good move (not that signing Atkins was a much better one).
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Tonight's lineup:
Patterson, Markakis, Wigginton, Tejada, Scott, Wieters, Jones, Atkins, Izturis
I don’t completely hate it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Looks good, other than Patterson still batting leadoff.
But why, oh why, does Markakis never bat first?
And that makes CPat our Darrius Heyward-Bey?
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Was Pie batting leadoff when he was healthy?
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 17, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
AJ should wear a shock collar that is activated when he swings at low/away pitches
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
AJ should wear a shock collar that is activated when he swings thinks about swinging at low/away pitches
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
More seriously:
I think if it’s 0-2, Adam just needs to lay off. Period. I’m pretty sure nobody throws him strikes in 0-2 counts at this point.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Why would they?
This year, his O-swing went from 35 to 40 and his Z-swing went from 73 to 64. I’m beginning to think an eye exam is in order.
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
Yeah, that's what I mean.
There’s little reason to throw anything in the zone to AJ unless it’s 3-1 or 2-0. It’s maddening. I just hope he really is breaking out of it, as this week’s BU,OD suggests.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I'm thinking last week was a lucky fluke
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
AJ has a .379 OBP in his last 30 plate appearances.
Does that mean he should go back to batting first?
No
AJ 2010 split
Batting 1st: .188 .224 .219
Batting 2nd: .300 .317 .513
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
I just can’t buy that success has anything to do with place in the batting order. RBIs, sure, but not BA or OBP. Moreover, even if it does have something to do with it, there’s almost no difference between batting first and batting second.
Jones’ BA has been much better in May than it was in April, and he coincidentally spent more time batting second in May. I think he’s (hopefully) just figuring things out. But I agree with what you said above. With his swing percentages, he probably should get his eyes checked.
I admit to oversimplifying
as a reaction to the small sample size.
But I strongly believe that hitters respond differently to different batting order positions. There are roles there, and not just in the first inning. What makes BRob such a good leadoff guy is his ability to work the hell out of a pitcher and get on base, which both wears the pitcher down and lets the team get a look at how he looks on that day, is he accurate, do his pitches move, etc. If your leadoff guy comes out hacking and makes the first out an easy one, this adds to the pitchers confidence and makes his job easier. The leadoff PA can set the tone for the inning and even the whole game.
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
not awful
game might get rained out anyways
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
it was pouring in cville a little while ago
gotta imagine that’ll be drenching b’more by 7
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
From cville myself.
The forecast is saying it’ll start raining around seven then clear up after a short while.
hahah
fail. my cville is charlottesville. clearly better than your cville.
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
and its pouring again
i was just about to head out for a run cuz it had stopped for a few mins :-(
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I was wondering why it would take 3 hours for rain to get from my cville to baltimore. I’m fifteen minutes away from OPaCY.
I don't either...
…but I am a bit tired of the wildly changing lineups.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Due to my sudden obsession with creating GIFs, I present to you, the starting lineup and the starting pitcher.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 17, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You can stop now.
Seriously.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
What the heck?
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 17, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
OH NOO!
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 17, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, will do.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 17, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate these ads on SBN that make noise when you scroll over them
this damned ad keeps honking at me and its driving me nuts. its right in between the stats on crow and the bird droppings tho so i cant avoid it.
its one with a ford mustang in it
the eharmony ones talk too
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ah I don't ever have those
I pretty much only get MASN and Ann Taylor. Neither of those talk, but those MASN ones get bigger with your mouse touches them. It drives me crazy.
ah i get the expanding MASN ones too
clearly, SBN knows i’m single and is trying to rub it in with all these eharmony ads. this isn’t even my computer! the browsing history on this thing is facebook, CC, espn, and youtube.
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
AdBlock Plus, yo.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
but can a man post a picture that shows up?
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Here ya go...
http://www.camdenchat.com/2010/4/17/1427880/how-to-make-pictures-a-suitable
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
I'm done with posting pictures!
I was attempting to link to an item on the Orioles website asking for fans to vote O’s into the AS game. Except that it included Carl Crawford on that list of players.
I think I’m at two strikes on the whole picture posting thing, despite having read the picture posting help thread. So one more shot and then I give up.
by TerroristFistJab on May 18, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Well that settles it
we’re definitely getting Carl Crawford before the ASG.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
damn
i think he fell short of playing for every team
by twistedlogic on May 17, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hope Stairs breaks the pinch-hit-homer record before he retires. He's so close.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I just saw this quote from Trembley on Nolan
“I don’t know if he’s ever going to be able to move the way he did before the Achilles problem in the outfield.”
This scares the crap out of me. I like the versatility he can add with playing 1B, but I just don’t know if his bat plays long term there. He still has the potential to be a 30 HR guy while being a pretty damn patient at the plate, but if his ankle is going to be bad enough to limit him in the OF for the rest of his career, who knows if it will be bad enough to limit his hitting potential? I don’t like it. Not one bit.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Ehhh DT has no fucking clue what he's talking about.
I don’t think movement was his problem – he was making routine grounders close at first and beating out a few before he went down. His hitting was the problem.
And also do we have to talk about the whole “does his bat play there” again?
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
His lateral movement may not be the same
But it’s LF, not CF. Straight line running, he’s fine. It’s making cuts that seems to be the problem. And let’s face it, LF is a lot of straight line running.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
It's not really if the bat plays there
it’s if we are going to go into free agency looking for a big bat. If so, the most likely position to find one at is 1B. If that’s the case, then I would love Nolan’s production to be in LF instead of limited to DH at that point. I get the fact that you don’t like the “where does his bat play” argument, and i’m not all for it, but it makes sense here. If you can get a bigger bat at 1B then his(which there are a ton of), you go for it and he is left without a position in this scenario. His power and walks potential in LF is already great though (not saying he will hit those plateaus, but the potential is there).
So yes, i’d be much happier with his bat playing in LF, where there are fewer offensive options available, then at 1st, where there are many more.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Well sure that's a better discussion.
But if we think Reimold can hit 30 HRs and play 1B reasonably well defensively, I’d be just fine signing Dunn to DH and not worrying about 1B.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I'd be ok with that too
It’s just the only way i’m not thinking about getting a better bat at 1st is if he hits those numbers (which is probably best case scenario) while I know that if he becomes a 20 HR guy and walks a ton in the outfield he’s already one of the better options out there. I mean that’s basically Markakis lite (he might not hit for the average, but everything else would be there).
My point is if we want a big masher it’s easier to find a guy at 1st then it is to find one in LF. While I don’t care where it comes from, saying “his bat might not play at 1st long term” is really just saying that there will be much better options available there and if we need to upgrade, that’s where we’re most likely to find one.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Yeah that all makes sense.
Doesn’t it seem like LF used to be a much more stacked position?? Gary Sheffield, Albert Belle, etc.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Yea
You know, when I see AB in my head it’s as a RF, but I forget how long he was in LF for the Tribe. I guess the couple years he played here really left an impression.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
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