Tuesday Bird Droppings
by duck on May 18, 2010 7:04 AM EDT
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PrintI'll put as much effort into the recaps as the O's did the game last night: Orioles.com, The Sun, KansasCity.com.
O's fall by one run to KC (with Bergesen video) - MASNsports.com
Big Bad Brad Bergesen says he didn't have his best stuff tonight. That's good, because if that was his best stuff, we're in trouble. -duck
Time of press conference: 2 minutes, 10 seconds - MASNsports.com
Dave Trembley spoke, the assembled media asked three questions, and that was it. It's like watching lint spin around the shower drain. There's just nothing left to ask aside from, how long will it take before this mess disappears? -duck
Hernandez in line to make next start | orioles.com: News
Looks like David Hernandez will make his next start. So, back off the ledge, people, it's gonna be OK. -duck
Nick Markakis’ Lack Of Power | Camden Crazies
Daniel Moroz examines why Nick Markakis isn't hitting as many home runs. -Stacey
Uehara could be O's plan B closer | orioles.com: News
"He's not a strikeout pitcher, he's a flyball pitcher, if you look at his splits," Dave Trembley said. "I don't know if that is your recipe for success if you're a closer." Because strikeouts count extra? Last time I checked, an out is an out, regardless of how recorded. Especially when your closer typically doesn't inherit runners, because, you know, he comes in at the beginning of the ninth inning. Can we please fire this man now? -duck
Interview with Orioles' 2009 4th Round Draft Pick
Jordan at Orioles Prospects interviewed Randy Henry about his rehab from TJ surgery, his goals for 2010, and how he'd rather play 2nd base. -Stacey
Atkins struggling to find consistency at plate | orioles.com: News
Because the headlines, "Atkins effing sucks," and "The Orioles are morons for giving Atkins one dime, let alone $4.5M" were already taken. -Stacey
Orioles Notebook: Atkins struggling to hit for power
Atkins struggling to hit for power - there, FTFY. -duck
Reports: Jacksonville native Ryan Freel retires from baseball at age 34 | jacksonville.com
A moment of silence, please. -zk
Struggling teams stare into dugout as slow starts put heat on managers - USATODAY.com
If you don't read this article, John Gibbons will PUNCH YOU IN THE FACE! -zk
O's to make roster moves for Interleague Play | orioles.com: News
One of those 23 pitchers in the bullpen will be moved out before interleague play. Question becomes, what minor league bat is worth calling up right now? -duck
Orioles Insider: Where is Mike Costanzo these days?
Because I know you're dying to know. And I'm going to make you click the link to find out. Scan my headlines and move on, will ya? NOT THIS TIME! -duck
Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps - May 17
Norfolk lost (Michael Aubrey went 2-for-4 with a HR), Bowie had a day off, and Frederick and Delmarva were rained out. -duck
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It struck me last night watching the game
How many other local sporting events drew more people than the O’s game. I am talking about a girls lacrosse game at Calvert Hall drawing more people as an example. Last night, the weather was an issue, but not THE issue. The issue is that fans have lost interest. Anyway, has anyone been to a local sporting event in the last week or too with more people than last nights game. Last weekend, I saw my 13 year old nephew play on his traveling baseball team at Gillman. They had about 75 fans, all family. Is that close enough?
John S West Jr
by Adam double bubble on May 18, 2010 7:46 AM EDT reply actions
I'm fairly certain half the swim meets I went to this winter
had more people in attendance.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
That CLE number is amazing
How many sellouts did they have in a row when the opened that place? 14K in that stadium? What the hell else is there to do in Cleveland?
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
The thing they've got the most musuems of any city in the mid-west.
or was that Cincy?
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
All Joking aside
The last Charm City Rollers event I went to had at least 1,500 hundred people. And that was a good time. Female roller skating has absolutely drawn more people to an event this year than last nights MLB Game.
John S West Jr
by Adam double bubble on May 18, 2010 8:29 AM EDT reply actions
two things
1. roller derby kicks ass
2. there were more than 1500 people there last night. I’m all for hyperbole but “absolutely?”
Are we sure?
That 9,900 number includes season tickets. How many of them showed up? If we get a decent paaoramic pic of last nigt, I bet we could just about count them. Subtract from the season ticket number, the subtract that number from the announced attendance, and we’d have a pretty accurate count on how many actually attended. I’m betting it was closer to 5K than 9K. But yes, there were more than 1,500.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Weekday night, rain, no promos, non-ALeast bottom rung opponent
For what it’s worth, there were massive lines to buy day-of tickets this past Friday – basically no huge empty sections of seats to move up to anywhere in the stadium :)
And only took 72 words to do it.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Apparently, not many more than 1500
So Kansas City (15-24) might have needed a little help Monday, and its hosts obliged before an announced crowd of 9,299 — second lowest in Camden Yards history — that realistically looked to be about a third of that.
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bal-orioles-royals-0517,0,5673160.story
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
a third of 9000
Is still twice as many as 1500. Pathetic? Beyond. But all joking aside, absolutely less than attended the charm city roller girls? No. That’s all.
by Stacey on May 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm beginning to think maybe not 1500
From Nestor’s photo stash:
http://pegshot.com/p/b6ff9418q/
It was taken during the game, obivously, but I don’t know when, although I’m guessing fairly early, since it’s not completely dark yet..
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Holy hell...
I was at the record-breaking game last month vs. Tampa, and at no point was it this empty.
by kramertoneman on May 18, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
If you think Nestor picked a Monday game against the Royals for his little protest by coincidence
You crazy. We could have predicted this would be the lowest crowd all year months ago. He was probably ecstatic when the weather turned out so bad.
I bet he did
No doubt there. I don’t get to see Baltimore TV, but I’m guessing no mention was made of the fewer than 100 people he attracted last night. The Sun didn’t mention it at all.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
I can't help but notice the Bird Droppings didn't either
Tweaking someone’s nose a little bit? ’cause they totally deserve it. :)
I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)
by Eat More Esskay on May 18, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ding, ding, we have a winner
At least Nestor’s festivities weren’t a story. The actual crowd? I think there is a story there.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
I mean, maybe there's a story
But the entire story is “The Baltimore Orioles have been bad for 13 years. The Kansas City Royals have been bad for longer. It was raining and cold last night. It was a Monday.”
Contrast that with this past weekend when the Orioles were playing another miserable team. But it was the weekend and the weather was absolutely gorgeous, and the O’s had respectable crowds every night. Not GREAT crowds, but respectable.
This team is garbage. Why does anyone expect people to show up? I don’t get it. I mean, it bums me out. It doesn’t matter how many times I go to an O’s game and it’s empty, I never get used to it. But that doesn’t mean I don’t get it.
Bad crowd I can understand
but fewer than 4,000 people in the stands at OPaCY? That’s news, in my judgment.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
eh, to each his own
Like I said, it’s sad. But it’s understandable. The weather last night was miserable. I go to like 20 games a year and you couldn’t have paid me to go last night.
And I don't even have the considerations of other people
Like a long drive to the park (even from the suburbs), kids in school, etc.
The pic says it was taken at 6:20...
I know, I know…. I see the players on the field, but click the link.
by Wieters Wieners on May 18, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He said in his blog 7:20
and there are players on the field in game positions.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Or forgot to change the time setting after Daylight Savings
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
When in doubt to motive...
incompetence is usually the correct answer.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
I was one of the few...
there last night – easily over a few thousand at the start of the game. Most surprising were the number of ushers keeping people out of the “good” seats, despite the lack of attendance and otherwise craptastic weather conditions.
The crowd that stayed for the entire game was good – most of us in the lower area between the dugouts were standing once Cesar walked until Miggy grounded out.
Contrast that to Saturday, when I was one of several hundred (maybe over a thousand) standing in line to buy a walk-up ticket against CLE. Gate E side (I think, the side closest to M&T), was full of people, many in larger groups looking to get seats near eachother. I finally was in my seat at the start of the 3rd inning.
As the usher said to me last night “it’s going to be packed, we’ve got great weather, the two best teams in baseball, and it’s Monday” before he laughed and walked away. It really isn’t something to freak out over.
by TerroristFistJab on May 18, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
The Nats ushers are the opposite
Went to a game that had a lengthy rain delay, and we were practically ordered to sit closer to home plate. I ended up 7 rows behind the visitor’s dugout.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
yeah
i gave a nats usher a snickers bar to sit in some pretty good seats. he put up a fight but i guess once i offered the snickers he was all over it.
I need to re-evaluate my bribe system
$20 was the going rate for the usher to move me right behind 3rd last year. I’m thinking slipping him a $10 shoud suffice this year. If no dice, I’ll just stay home… lol
by Wieters Wieners on May 18, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder more about the local businesses instead of the Orioles
The crowds at OPACY are down, but I feel worse for the local businesses and the local employees who are suffering as the O’s woes continue. Sports teams tout their positive effect on the local economy. I doubt the O’s aren’t helping the local businesses very much. I do know that food sales are down… down… across local eateries via a family member in the business.
It may also be a little leaner this year if the Red Sox keep faltering.
Wow
Each and every one of these links is depressing and discouraging. Dave’s stupidity, Atkins’ uselessness, the fact that Hernandez is still taking Tillman’s starts, Nick’s lack of power, the pointlessness of bringing back Castillo because OMGweneedanotherlefty, any mention of Ryan Freel….
I didn’t really have a point here. There’s nothing like losing to the worst-run organization in baseball to put you in a funk on a rainy Tuesday. At least there’s LOST tonight.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
LOST tonight....for the last time ever on a Tuesday. Ever.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
I cannot wait
There’s a lot of buzz about tonight’s episode from folks that have screened it. Apparently Michael Emerson and Terry O’Quinn are particularly amazing…talk about a spoiler alert.
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
What? Ben AND Locke are in an episode???
Now you’ve ruined it for everyone!
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
I have tickets to see Frightened Rabbit on Sunday. Lost Finale Sunday. S.O.B.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
That's why DVRs were invented
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
1) I want to see it immediately damn it! Hell, I want to see the finale tonight right after the next to last eppy. 2) I’ll have to dodge Lost spoilers all of Monday.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
that sucks, man
I have to miss tonight and it’ll be hard enough avoiding things until I can watch it tomorrow afternoon.
Locke explodes in a fiery mass.
Hurley is crowned clown jester of the island.
Kate and Jack and Swayer have a three-way.
Benjamin Linus turns into a tree.
There. You’re all caught up.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
(turns into smoke monster)
ARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!
(whispers)
(roller coaster chain noise)
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
i still think
hurley wakes up in the crapper on the plane and it was all a dream. if i had my way that’s how i would end it just to piss everyone off.
with "Dont' Stop Believin' " playing on his iPod
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
and then he looks out the window and Hawkeye is flying away in the helicopter
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
as Jerry, George, Kramer and Elaine are taken to jail
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
And Picard finally sits in on a poker game with his officers
You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.
So, watch it after FR
Not that I know what Frightened Rabbit is. A play? A show? A movie?
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
A band
By the time I’m home from the show, it’ll be late and bed time. Unless I want to stay up super late Sunday night. I may take Monday off from work just to watch the finale either late Sunday night or Monday morning.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
That's the plan
Call in sick, watch the finale. You’ve got the 2 hour series recap before it, too. And the 2.5 hour finale. That’s 4.5 hours of LOST, plus JKL! after with the show writers. That’s a full day right there.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
How long is it going to take before
McPhail and Co realize that Dave has lost the team, or that he never had them to begin with? This season has been absolutely embarrassing – even moreso than the last decade. At least during the Orioles sucking last year everyone thought they had a bright future. Now it’s like they’re the most fraudulent organization in sports.
I'll still put the Royals and Pirates up there
At least we have a delusional plan that has a 5% chance of working in our favor. They’re adrift, especially the Royals.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
"We can play with the Yankees"
“We should beat all these dudes. We can play with the Yankees, all them,” Jones said. “It’s frustrating that we are not. But we can. I know we can.”
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-royals-0518-20100517,0,4977245.story
I don’t know whether to cringe of give Jones an ’atta boy". I guess the ’atta boy" would make some sense if he were actually playing at a level where he was an equal with some of the Yankees best. Right now, it just makes me feel depressed – like an Orioles fan…
another sign of the apocalypse...
project corey patterson’s walk numbers and he would be second on the team. just eyeballing the numbers, i think he would have more walks than baseball jesus.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
umm dave...
you know what’s not a good recipe for success for a closer? a guy who walks 6 per 9 innings. you incredible moron
also, just checked fangraphs, and in the limited innings so far,
Koji is almost K-ing ans many as Alfredo. 8.31 / 9IP vs 9.34 / 9IP, so Dave fails at everything
Hanley's not happy with his manager right now
Trade for him RIGHT NOW.
Hanley Ramirez said he won’t apologize to his team or his manager. Says he lost some respect for manager Fredi Gonzalez. Ramirez also said that Fredi Gonzalez doesn’t understand playing through pain because "he never played in the big leagues.
http://twitter.com/joecapMARLINS/status/14230731189
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
and albers
just to sweeten it up…
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 18, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, we'd need some cash back to balance that...
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
We'll keep Albers for the time being
but Mikey Gonzalez might fit the bill…
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 18, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We'll even pay most of his salary!
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 18, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Why?
Dave wouldn’t bench him. He’s a vet – he can practically name his spot in the batting order. He’d love No Accountability Dave.
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
Make that No Accountability For Old Men Dave
"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey
No, I like "NAD" better
No Accountability Dave
by Wieters Wieners on May 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
nice.
“I drink your .200 average.”
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
i thought luke tried that?
sorry – i am under the impression that DD..i mean NAD can find a way to screw anything up.
I'll take 10 minutes of Hanley Ramierez as our SS
I’m sure Marlins fans enjoyed their 7 days of Piazza. If all we have to give up is the equivalent of Preston Wilson, Ed Yarnall, and Geoff Goetz (the guys the Marlins got for Piazza) then i’m all for it.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Preston Wilson
Man that guy had one incredible season though.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
His career was actually alot better than I remember
His rookie year was his best season though, at least until he went to Colorado and had a miraculous jump in home runs. But yea, Florida got 4 years of decent production out of him. Good for them.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
When did the Marlins have Piazza?
I thought his career was just Dodgers and Mets.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dodgers traded Piazza to the Marlins
The Marlins traded him 7 days later to the Mets. He also played with the Padres and A’s at the end.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/piazzmi01.shtml
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
They had him for 7 days?
That’s very weird.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 18, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
do you all even agree with what Hanley is saying?
He’s being a little diva punk ass… If I were the manager I would have pulled his ass out too. If he jogged to the ball because he was in too much pain, then he needed to sit anyway.
Fuck that, I can handle a player who has an attitude but works their ass off and produces. I can’t handle a player who has an attitude and then dogs it and tries to justify it.
Hanley is probably wrong here
I’ll still take him though.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Gonzalez is a dead man walking in the clubhouse
The owner has made no bones about wanted to get rid of him. Hanley is def out of line tho.
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 18, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
*wanting
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 18, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
it
at times, it really pains me to be afan of this team. if it ain’t dd making himself and the orginazation look like an idiot, it’s the players backing up the notion we suck ass.
What'd she say/do?
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 18, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
somebody on twitter called him the "great american hero" or something
and she was like….naw…maybe the big american zero and then called him a cheater. right on.
by twistedlogic on May 18, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
If he’s such an American hero, explain why he was on the DOMINICAN REPUBLIC last year for the WBC.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 18, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Good fucking Gawd!!!!
Can these PHN vs. MFY games be any longer? It’s 12:00 and in the bottom of the 9th. Oh, and Michael Kaye sucks…
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
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