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Wednesday Bird Droppings

I like games that end in wins much better than losses. The Orioles should try and do that more! Recaps of last night's 10th inning win can be found at baltimoresun.com MLB.comThe Associated Press, and KansasCity.com.

The Best Bars to Visit After an Orioles Game at Camden Yards
The Baltimore Chop lists the best place to drown your sorrows after a game. All good choices and I personally recommend Little Havana. And it's not listed here, but we had some good times after Opening Day at The Nest. -Stacey

What they're saying about the Orioles - baltimoresun.com
Believe it or not, most of it isn't complimentary. -duck

Orioles' losses reflected in empty seats - baltimoresun.com
The Sun interviewed a bunch of fans, most of whom said the O's will get fans back when they start winning. Who is to argue with the wisdom of the masses? -duck

Orioles-Rangers Preview - Sporting News
The Orioles play two in Texas, and here's a preview. -duck

Question of the day: Who will be the second MLB manager fired this season?| Los Angeles Times
The consensus is Dave Trembley. Shocking, I know. -duck

Orioles notebook: Slumping Jones getting frustrated (and Monty's benching, too)
The article focuses mostly on Adam Jones, but there's also this insight from Diamond Dave about Lou Montanez: "I can't guarantee playing time in that situation," Trembley said. "Our need was to get a leadoff hitter and we got (Corey) Patterson here, and I think he's done tremendous, and if that has not given Monty an opportunity to play, that's just part of it." -duck

Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps - May 18
Norfolk was shut out, Bowie was rained out, Frederick won twice, and Delmarva won one and lost one. -duck

Orioles Insider: Shorebirds' Cowan experiencing shoulder tightness
Jake Cowan (yeah, I know - who's he?) is experiencing shoulder tightness and will miss his next start for the Shorebirds. By the way, he was our 10th round pick last year. -duck

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Huh?
All good choices and I personally recommend Little Havana. It’s not listed here but we had some good times after Opening Day at The Nest.

If you’re referring to Little Havana not being listed in the link, it is.

by Illformula on May 19, 2010 7:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Huh?

I think she meant out of all the choices, Little Havana would win.

by twistedlogic on May 19, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

She's saying The Nest isn't listed.

Of the choices that ARE listed, she would go with Little Havana.

"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey

by duck on May 19, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

Perhaps a comma would have made that clearer.

It’s not listed here, but we had some good times after Opening Day at The Nest.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 7:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sorry...

That’s what I get for thinking at 7am.

by Illformula on May 19, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprised to see a Dougherty's mention in that article

That’s my favorite bar in B-more. Chill music, neighborhood feel, great bartenders.. you’ll see more soccer there than baseball, but it’s great to see them getting a little cred.

by zsiv on May 19, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

DDWTF

why is a bench player being benched? Lou is useless. Bring up Aubrey who could at least provide a bat late. Not that Aubrey is the answer any of us are looking for, but last year he was at least getting hits, which is more than what Atkins is doing. I wonder if this may be the interleague call-up – has any one heard any rumblings?

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

aubrey

 aubrey is def not the bat to bring up. personally i don’t know who is but he isn’t exactly tearing it up and his def play has been shoddy. of course this is just from my point of view which is sometimes wrong :)

by chuckthefan on May 19, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another bat is coming up for interleague

Aubrey isn’t on the 40-man so someone else would have to DFA’d to make room for him, but he has been hitting at a .276 AVG/.345 OBP/.835 OPS so he seems like the likely choice.

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by PBR me ASAP! on May 19, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah

i thought he stayed on it from last year. i could see that being a no then.

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

i stand corrected

 i am srry aubbrey isnt doing bad. it is the other 1n that is batting .195

by chuckthefan on May 19, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that would be Brandon Snyder

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by PBR me ASAP! on May 19, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

and he did hit last year at the end of the season so its not like he hasn’t had some decent ML experience. He just doesn’t have power which i think is why he will be a AAAA’er as a first baseman.

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

current 40 man fielders

Brandon Snyder (1B)
Rhyne Hughes (1B)
Justin Turner (2B)
Josh Bell (3B)
Nolan Reimold (LF)
Pedro Florimon (SS) – Bowie

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd consider DFAing lou to bring him up

but with interleague, somebody is coming up anyways. my guess is reimold?

by twistedlogic on May 19, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

possibly turner, no?

he can play pretty much any infield position and a little OF, iirc.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Buckle up for the Luke Scott Roller Coaster ride

I don’t know what to say. Luuuuuuke is HOT. I don’t remember any player in Oriole history who had such disparities in their playing. When Luke is cold, he is just horrilbe. But when he is hot, he shouldn’t be pitched too. It is so frustrating. But while he is hot, like now, I don’t mind at all.

John S West Jr

by Adam double bubble on May 19, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

MacPhail and Trembley seem tight

I don’t see him getting fired unless the players commit mutiny. Which they may well at some point.

by perpetualstudent on May 19, 2010 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

This organization needs help

I recommend keeping Jordan but adding the entire Rays’ scouting team and replacing McPhail with Larry Beinfest.

by Illformula on May 19, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

MacPhail

was down here in Norfolk last night taking notes. More useless moves from within the organization to come?

by VB O's Guy on May 19, 2010 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

what the hell??

They took Beckett out because he was injured, told the umpires that he was injured which allowed the reliever as many warm ups as he wanted, and Girardi is saying they should have told the umpires that he was hurt BEFORE they took him out? When has a team EVER done that? I don’t know what the hell he’s crying about.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on May 19, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is THAT what his complaint is?

I couldn’t understand it when I read the article the first time. If so, wow, he needs to get over it.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on May 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no clue.

I can’t believe he actually filed a protest over that.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on May 19, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can.

Joe Girardi is a ginormous douchebag.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on May 19, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a shame Thank God he turned the O’s down

FTFY

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on May 19, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That whole thread is incredibly funny

"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey

by duck on May 19, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG hahahahahahaha

I hadn’t gone and read it until now. I lol’d.

Good stuff:

I’ve been reassigned to Norfolktideschat.
oriolesupdate.blogspot.com
by BrianS on Jun 19, 2007 4:24 PM PDT actions
Name one thing…
Name one thing specifically that SC did wrong.
And they couldn’t do it.
by duck on Jun 20, 2007 12:18 PM PDT up actions

He kept sending duck out there
to post in the 8th inning.
by BrianS on Jun 20, 2007 1:18 PM PDT up actions

Gee, we had some fun back when this team was good, didn’t we?

Oh, wait a minute.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on May 19, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dumber than a bag of sunflower seeds

Granderson’s on the DL. Johnson’s on the DL. Swisher can only hit from one side. And apparently Posada can’t play when it’s cold and/or raining.

So he must have figured it’s the perfect time to go with 13 pitchers, leaving perennial all star favourites Juan Miranda & Randy Winn to face Papelbon.

You can't fix stupid. Stupid is forever.

by sluggo 2.0 on May 19, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

what are the rules

   what are the rules could we option fatkins to aaa? could he refuse to go? i know some players can not sure if that is based on yrs in the lg or what not. i say option and not relase because if we are paying him hell send him down to try and get something for the orginazation out of that 6 m

by chuckthefan on May 19, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Atkins has no options

They could DFA him and send him to AAA if no one claims him, but I believe that due to his service time he can refuse that, which I’m sure he’d will. The only way to get rid of him is to cut him, which is fine by me.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here's the new O's stars and stripes cap

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

That looks so much better than last year

That red cap was just wrong.

I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)

by Eat More Esskay on May 19, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I still don’t like it, really, but it’s a huge improvement.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on May 19, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah... and nearly all of them looked bad!

I'm ready for a straight jacket. - Joe Angel, 4/17/10 (O's record: 1-11)

by Eat More Esskay on May 19, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

except the phillies of course

by twistedlogic on May 19, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

Red & orange do not go together.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Delmarva catcher Jason Stifler"

He better keep his mom away from the Shorebirds.

Thanks, I’ll be here all week. Try the footlong dog.

by UnknownEric on May 19, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Depends on what she looks like

"Oh, and Joe? If Brian hits any of your delicate millionaires, know that he meant it." - Stacey

by duck on May 19, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha dave

i just got an interview request for an industrial engineering position at the vitamin shoppe HQ in north bergen. lawlerskates

by twistedlogic on May 19, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

You should totally do it

North Bergen is a lovely city

(Disclaimer: North Bergen is not actually a lovely city at all)

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amazingly enough

The city of North Bergen isn’t actually in Bergen county (it’s in Hudson county). So, per that guy’s email, you wouldn’t even be in Yankee country, USA (even though you’d be closer to NYC than he is).

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

phew

its safe then. that’s a misnomer tho

by twistedlogic on May 19, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theres a case like that near philly

Chester, PA is in Delaware County and not Chester County, which is right next to it.

by kba26 on May 19, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

chester, pa scares me...

i once got lost in chester at midnight on a sunday looking for a gas station. i thought i was in the video for thriller.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parts of it are definitely not good

Its where they built the new soccer stadium though, hopefully that does a little to at least rejuvenate the waterfront.

by kba26 on May 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, you are lucky to still be with us after that ordeal...

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by PBR me ASAP! on May 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

the funk of 40,000 years is a tough nut to crack...

i assure you.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just a fun observation

In 7 games since being called up, Corey Patterson has 2 home runs and has scored 8 runs. In 32 games since Opening Day, Garrett Atkins has 0 home runs and has scored 4 runs. Garrett IS outpacing Corey in RBI, though, 6-2.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Why haven't we cut Atkins yet?

I really don’t understand. He’s not producing, he’s not showing any signs that he will produce, his lack of production is not luck-based (he has a .287 BABIP), and I think I’ve read more suggesting that he’s not working particularly hard than that he is.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on May 19, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because the Orioles don't seem to understand sunk costs

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on May 19, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Trembley did show some frustration with the 1B situation the other day

when he said something to the effect of, ‘I will keep putting him (Atkins) out there because I do not have any other options’. So, hopefully the plan is for Reimold to get acclimated to 1B and get his stroke fixed by Memorial Day and then cut ties w/ the Beav…hopefully….

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by PBR me ASAP! on May 19, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea

I think it’s along the lines of “who the hell else can we trot out there?”. Now, i’d still be all for moving Luke to 1st, but we don’t even have a viable DH in that situation. I think we’re stuck until (if?) Nolan gets it together or B-Rob comes back. If Nolan can’t play 1st, stick Luke there until B-Rob gets back and then move Wiggs over. It isn’t like Garrett is a defensive wiz anyway.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's the thing.

We do have other options. If we cut Atkins, we could shift Wiggy to first and call up Turner. Significant defensive improvement, and probably no loss in offense. Heck, I’d even cut Atkins just to replace him with Michael Aubrey. That would probably be a slight improvement in both defense and offense.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on May 19, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea, i'd be game for either of those scenarios

I doubt they really make us a much better team. I just want to see Atkins’ teeth off my favorite team.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weird, I was thinking about that on the bus.

Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 19, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still would like to point out that Hanley Ramirez is a whiney little punk.

The guy just needs to shut up. His own team is getting on his case now, and I don’t blame them. Lollygagger indeed.

by Y Not on May 19, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Whatever

I’m just hoping the situation gets bad enough that we can get him for Bell, Tillman and Arrieta.

He may be a whiny little punk, but I’d trade half our farm to get him to be our whiny little punk.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on May 19, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

As much as it would suck to lose Tillman and Arrieta in one move...

please please please let it get bad enough that they’d want to move him. I’d take that trade in a second (plus we wouldn’t even have to think about drafting a ss instead of a guy like Taillon, which would clear up the draft picture a bit).

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I think we're considering Colon and Machado...

…because they might be the best players available at our pick, not because we need a shortstop. And sadly, I’m less certain now that Taillon will even be available when we pick. Damn you Drew Pomeranz and your recent struggles!

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on May 19, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I really don’t have as good a bearing on the draft as I should. All I know is maybe a month ago the only person to have the best player to us being a ss was KLaw (he had Machado). Everyone else had one of a couple pitchers. How exactly draft stocks change so drastically over the course of a few weeks is beyond me. We’re trying to project these kids’ careers and our minds are being changed over a handful of games? I don’t get it.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is weird, I'll give you that.

I don’t know how much stock I’d put in any of the mock drafts to date though. That’s just people trying to look at past trends to try to drum up site traffic.

I don’t know what I can tell you; I’m not a scout and have very little ability to analyze these guys potential based on observation. I look at the draft prospects the way I would look at stocks – as assets who have a certain value on the baseball market, and then I look for indicators that they are mispriced. Which is part of why I’m so high on Colon; he seems badly mispriced to me in a way that most of the prospects aren’t.

Beyond that, the only other thing I’ll say is that I think the rankings of “best player” are somewhat misleading. To me the best you can do is divide the players into tiers. I think once you get past Harper and Taillon, you end up in a tier where the difference between the third best guy and the eighth best guy is pretty marginal; at this point you are drafting for taste more than you are for overall talent level.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on May 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Picture from the SI Vault

If you guys are on Twitter, definitely follow @SI_Vault He posts old photos from from Sports Illustrated every day. He just posted this one:

with the caption, “SI Vault Photo (1979): Doug Stanhouse and Earl Weaver (in a towel) enjoy a postgame beer and cigarette.” So it’s not Doug…but still an awesome photo.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

haha

Stanhouse is wearing a “Stan the Man Unusual” shirt.

"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic

by zknower on May 19, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Goldstein on the O's minor league system

It’s not pretty.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10918

This was supposed to be a year in which the Orioles stepped forward. Nobody expected them to compete for a post-season birth, but 2010 was supposed to represent the beginning of a turnaround built upon a nucleus of young talent — all of which has disappointed this year. Matt Wieters is still trying to find his big league power swing, Adam Jones has regressed from a talented free swinger to a complete hacker, and Nick Markakis has become a power line-drive hitter with just two home runs.

And sure, the pitching staff is bad, but Brian Matusz has been wonderful at times, with classic youthful inconsistency, and Triple-A starters Chris Tillman and Jake Arrieta should be big helps to the rotation, with others like Double-A groundball machine Zach Britton aren’t far behind. So why the despair?

It’s because what the Orioles are left with is an offense currently ranked 13th in the American League in runs, but a system so imbalanced it’s currently is in no position to help.

The top hitting prospect for the O’s is third baseman Josh Bell, who arrived last July from the Dodgers in the George Sherrill deal. Expected to be the club’s third baseman in 2011, Bell’s first showing against Triple-A has exposed some major holes in his game, as his .250/.281/.431 batting line shows how his lack of plate discipline is catching up to him, while concerns about his struggles against left-handers have become larger due to his 2-for-25 (.080) mark against them for Norfolk.

The scary thing for Baltimore is that not only is Bell their top hitting prospect, he might just be their only one. Even giving the young players mulligans for their poor start, the Orioles have some gaping holes in their longterm line-up at several positions, and nobody to fill them. Much like Bell at third base, former first-round pick Brandon Snyder was expected to step into the first-base job next year, even though scouts were concerned that the .300 hitter with average-at-best power didn’t profile well at the position. First base prospects have to be great, not good hitters, and Snyder’s .202/.288/.298 line for Norfolk has few thinking that he’s still the answer. As for shortstop, currently manned by plug-in Cesar Izturis, there’s nobody even to discuss as a potential replacement, even on a short-term level.

Make no mistake, the Orioles are playing well below their ability right now, but even if they were, questions about where their runs are going to come from over the next five years would still be hanging out there.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

That is really depressing.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on May 19, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

It hasn’t been a good year so far for the Orioles’ offensive prospects, to be sure. But on the other hand, this isn’t very deep analysis.

Bell is off to a slow start, but what “lack of plate discipline” is Goldstein talking about? This is a player with an over 10% walk rate in AA who has doubled his walk rate in May from a horrible April. Moreover, Bell’s LD% is 22% in Norfolk, the best it has been in his career. It really is odd how BP has moved away from actually using advanced stats.

Meanwhile, while the upper minors have been brutal to the O’s prospects, in the lower levels, Avery, Hoes and Rosa continue to have breakout seasons. Rosa now has a wOBA of .370, Hoes of .360, and Avery of .334, all improvements of at least .050 over last season with each moving up a level.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on May 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

avery and hoes

are GREAT stories insofar as the development of positional prospects goes for the o’s. i do not enough about rosa to comment intelligently, but that sure is a purty number.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Kolodny

has been doing decent when i listen to the games (granted i can’t watch him play). Wasn’t there just a story on him?

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure if there was a story

Kolodny has been killing the ball, for sure. But I’m a lot less enthusiastic about him. Not only does he rate much lower than the three I mentioned on tools, but the situation is very different.

Kolody has an OPS of .920. Awesome, right? Not so much, actually. All of that has come from a big surge in his slugging – he already has one more home run than he did all of last season. But Kolodny is 22 years old in the Sally League, repeating the level, and his rate stats have all worsened. He is hitting fewer line drives, striking out more, and walking less. On top of that, his fielding has gotten worse at third, so the last week he’s been playing first base.

So while the power surge from Kolodny is nice, it will take a lot more than that for him to make it onto any serious prospect radar.

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on May 19, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

reason i asked – thanks

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I look at this and think about Rowell

The Orioles need to nail their drafts. Rowell was a wasted pick and it hurts. Hobgood may pan out, but he’s a HS pitcher who might contribute in three years if things go well? Bottom line is he has a ways to go before we’ll know and the O’s need help now.

Joe Jordan seems to get plenty of praise, but the jury is still out on his picks. You also wonder when will an Orioles GM actually trade some of the young arms for other pieces the team needs.

by drj on May 19, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean

don’t you sort of need to figure out who’s going to actually help before you can trade the rest for other pieces? At this point I don’t think it’s clear that anybody other than Matusz is a long term solution in the rotation. Tillman and Arrieta look like good bets, but who knows. If they trade either of them, won’t we just be looking for starters in another year or two again?

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on May 19, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

think of the last few years of penn, cabrera, loewen. bedard was certainly not a logical pick to be as good as he was and there was much of gnashing of teeth and beating of breasts when maine had his first full season w/ the mets, but he looks kinda done.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

A good organization figures this stuff out.

If they don’t trade anyone, won’t they still be looking for position players and a good bat or two? If the O’s are not going to buy bats, they’ll need to trade for them. They’ll need to trade quality for quality. I’m just guessing that the O’s will need to go this route because I just don’t see them all the sudden bumping up the payroll with a big FA acquisition. Good organizations find ways to assemble pieces via trades and scout and develop players.

by drj on May 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, at least in my mind, I assume the plan is to see if Tillman and Arrieta pan out and then hopefully you have a rotation of Matusz, Tillman, Arrieta, Bergesen, and Guts (or some other rando). If that happens then you work on trading Britton, Hobgood, Erbe, or whoever else is of any value to fill other holes.

The fact that the O’s haven’t made moves YET doesn’t mean they aren’t part of their future plans. For all we know they’ve already figured this out and are exploring possible trades.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on May 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

corey...

walking in 12.5% of his PAs. his OBP is .409(?) and he’s hitting in the low .300s, his BABIP is .333

i grant you the small sample set, but the man seems to be seeing the ball very, very well right now.

(as i pointed in the crow thread, as well, his best walk rates and k rates in his career are w/ the o’s)

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

in two plus seasons?

i think not, sir.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmm, point noted

so CP is the only positive coming from Crow lately. good to see.

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Felix!

Maybe the Crow is only capable of helping failed Cubs prospects who play the outfield and for whom I have an emotional attachment.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get Gathright up here STAT!

And Stacey, you better form a sincere emotional attachment right now.

"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower

by daveh873 on May 19, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

though, actually...

gathright (last i checked) was walking a lot at norfolk, too.

"If they pitch to you, make them pay."

--Diamond Dave to the Phenom

by j.q. higgins on May 19, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought you didn't like CP?

I was about to say Sosa – but then saw you wrote prospects…

by Philly O's on May 19, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't want him on this team

But I was pretty attached to him his first go round and as a person I think he’s great. Since he’s gotten here I’ve sort of re-discovered all the reasons I liked him in the first place.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

When he's playing well

he’s pretty damn fun to watch. Not unlike Pie actually, although a little more business-like.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on May 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

And also, this has nothing to do with him as a player, but I love his post game interviews. He always sounds so thoughtful and kind. I know that probably sounds ridiculous, but you’ve got Nick going “you know, you know, you know,” and Luke thanks the Lord every five seconds. But Corey actually seems to think about the questions instead of giving out some kind of rote answer. Yesterday he was trying to talk about his approach at the plate and someone pie’d him (which I’m over) and you could tell he was so annoyed but he just kept trying to talk despite his eyes stinging.

Plus he’s very handsome.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he’s a good interview – very professional. He just seems like a good guy.

Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck

by O'sFan21 on May 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball Reference is including WAR now

Love that. I prefer looking at B-R.com for some stats because I’m more familiar with their layout and they have kick ass search functions, but often find myself flipping back and forth from them and Fangraphs on the same player.

They’re using BaseballProjection.com as their source.

by Stacey on May 19, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

I just wish one of them would buy out Minor League Splits

To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa

by James F on May 19, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jerry Crasnick is complaning about overdone storylines today on ESPN.com.

One of them is the shaving cream pie. A quote:

Sometimes it feels as if everyone but Felix Pie has been pied.
Pfft. Felix has been pied. Get with the program, man.

"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver

by Vuff on May 19, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

I had no idea Ivan Calderon was murdered. I remember randomly seeing him in a red sox lineup as a kid and thinking he had the coolest name ever.

by Chanumas on May 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rich Harden is pitching tonight.

Maybe now would be a good time for the O’s offense to HARDEN THE F*** UP.

Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.

by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 19, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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