Thursday Bird Droppings
by duck on May 20, 2010 7:06 AM EDT
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Recaps of last night's utterly predictable loss can be found at baltimoresun.com, and Orioles.com.
Projecting the Draft's top 10 picks | MLB.com: News
Jonathan Mayo takes a crack at predicting Round 1 of the MLB Draft. -duck
Rays' rotation redefines quality starts - MLB - Yahoo! Sports
At a table for five at Grill 23 in Boston, amid mahogany and brass and $46 steaks, James Shields, Matt Garza, David Price, Jeff Niemann, and Wade Davis ... toasted to these ideals: They would pitch deep into games. They would pitch off their fastballs. They would seek outs in the strike zone. They would believe in their defense. They would be fit and strong and coachable and accountable. They would remind each other it was great to be young and strong and Rays. They would ignore the common definition of a "quality" start. And they would have fun. It's a fun read, even if it's about the Rays. -zk
Checking on J.J. - MASNsports.com
Jim Johnson is doing a lot of running. A LOT of running. He's cleared to do arm exercises starting today. -duck
Tillman Talk - MASNsports.com
"He pitched seven scoreless innings of three-hit for Norfolk vs. Pawtucket with two walks and four strikeouts to lower his ERA for the season to 3.31. Over his last six starts, Tillman's ERA is just 2.14 and he has fanned 30 and walked just seven over 42 innings." -duck
Orioles Insider: Roberts hospitalized with pneumonia, Aubrey expected Friday
If I'm Brian Roberts, I'm checking the skies for falling pianos when I walk by tall buildings. -duck
Orioles Insider: Keys' Hoes sidelined with strep throat
L.J. Hoes has strep throat, so that's why he's not been in the lineup. -duck
Orioles Insider: How some ex-Orioles are doing
None of them are exactly tearing it up in their new places of employment. -duck
How Do Players Deal With Midseason Manager Change? - MLB FanHouse
"Staring across the diamond into the visiting dugout the last few nights, the Orioles might have been looking into their near future." -duck
Baseball Insider - The Orioles' Dave Trembley gets philosophical
Dave Trembley weighed in on the Florida Marlins situation with Hanley Ramirez. Worth a read. -duck
Patience pays off for Orioles leadoff hitter Corey Patterson - baltimoresun.com
Nick Markakis says Corey Patterson looks different at the plate. I think it's the new eye shadow. It accentuates his cheeks. -duck
Miggy holds onto ball, and I drop grudge | The Daily Times
One sports writer learns to embrace the return of Miguel Tejada. -duck
AND IN THE MINORS
Orioles Insider: Minor league game recaps - May 19
Norfolk won as Scott Moore was 2-for-3 with 2 HR, Bowie won, Frederick won, and Delmarva lost. -duck
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Floyd Landis?
I was loving the Jack Daniel’s excuse, though
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
yea
what an idiot. if you’re gonna drop the dough, keep the story.
by twistedlogic on May 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
What a disappointment this guy
he needs to get a clue. For a very brief moment, his final charge to the win at the tour was one of the most amazing sporting accomplishments I had ever seen.
Oh jeez. He is on the front page of the times. Please disappear Floyd. Seek counseling.
I know I am (sadly) replying to myself and that maybe 1 percent of you have any interest in competitive cycling but I need to amend my first comment. Of course his accomplishment was an ‘amazing’ feat. He was on mass amounts of testosterone. What I meant was ‘exciting’. That day was great television and provided an apex fan experience.
Floyd is very bitter. Us fans were very disappointed when the drug use was revealed. But it is everything that has happened since that is un-stomachable. If he weren’t so bad at being a human he would have a lot of sympathy.
Had Floyd 'fessed up
and taken his suspension, he’d be racing right now. Just like if Pete Rose had just said, “You know, I had a problem with gambling, I bet on my own team to win,” he’d be in the Hall of Fame now.
Did we learn nothing from Watergate? The coverup is always worse than the crime.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
I heard from Andy MacPhail
He’ll be calling you with a job offer momentarily.
by Stacey on May 20, 2010 7:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sweet!
First order of business – fire atkins/lugo/albers.
I will even hold an auction where any CC’er can bid on the opportunity to fire said players. Of course, all proceeds will go to charity of choice.
by Philly O's on May 20, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sample size is big enough now
Atkins can no longer play the game of baseball at the Major League level. He won’t be released and nobody wants him in trade, so he is just a wasted roster spot. Maybe someone can injure him, so he can be placed on the DL?
But is Aubrey going to make much of a difference? I hope so, but have my doubts. (see: Rhyne Hughes).
No need to injure him
Just convince him to say he’s injured. The Redskins did it for most of the 1980’s. You think MLB is gonna demand independent medical testing to prove an injury? If a player says he’s injured, that’s good enough for MLB.
And if he doesn’t go for it, and accept an “injury rehab” stint in Norfolk with a chance to come back to the O’s, then cut him lose.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
My idea of injury to Atkins
Is a sort of tragicomic accident in a pepper game or someone lights his shoe that has been secretly glued to his foot so that he can’t get it off in time to avoid minor burns, just enough to make it painful to stand inside a batter’s box. Or inadvertantly being hit in the face with a pie by Adam Jones that, instead of being filled with shaving cream, is filled with cement or metal spikes or…
by Fred Sanford on May 20, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
ha!
maybe the pepper game will also result in a brutal suspension. as we all know, NO PEPPER GAMES ALLOWED!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 20, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
gibbons kind of tearing it up at AAA
Jay Gibbons, OF (Albuquerque, Dodgers’ Triple-A) .383 avg. (41-for-107), 6 HR, 28 RBIs
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
OK, that's 1.
And it’s Jay Freakin’ Gibbons. He’s what, 43 years old now?
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
id rather have gibbons at first
than atkins…
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 20, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Uh, no
I lived through the Jay Gibbons Experience the first time. That was enough.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
The Jay Gibbons Experience
is nowhere near as entertaining as the Jimi Hendrix Experience.
by Fred Sanford on May 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely not
My daughter was in English last yesterday, and they had a guest speaker. She played different versions of the Star Spangled Banner to show, well, I don’t know what.
But when she got to the Hendrix version, my daughter said she smiled and loved it (she’s heard it many, many times on the way to swim practice) and the rest of her class thought it was a terrible mess.
I raised that girl right.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
And I don't edit it, either
You people are RUTHLESS. zk’s the grammar Nazi, not me! :)
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
well
i was going to write how music sucks these days and kids don’t know crap, but that caught my eye so I ran with it.
I like that version too.
I first heard in Cars, and thought it was really cool.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
At least it would take walks on a consistent basis
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
I'm right there with you. haha he couldn't possibly be worse.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Albuquerque is like a ridiculous version of a hitter's park
so take those numbers with a pound of salt.
Outs in baseball are like lives in Mario.
Idea
Bring him back and Luis Matos. Send Nick to AAA and have the worst outfield known to man.
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 20, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
and then step 3 - profit
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 20, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
This guy hit .233 in 40 games with the frikin' Newark Bears last year
his OPS was .672. His numbers this year are a freak of nature. He is nowhere near being a major league hitter.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
Orioles worst in the league in hits per run.
Well, I’m just looking at the American league, Orioles need 2.51 hits to score a run, which is about .20 worse than Seattle. That goes to show why the Orioles have only scored 8 more runs than Seattle despite 45 more hits. H/R, I don’t think is a useless stat, it correlates with winning.
The Orioles are third to last in doubles this year. But there is a slight sample size problem involved with this number, and 2.52 will definitely fall by about a half run by the end of the year. We needed 2.03 hits last year to score each run last year, which was only better than two teams (KC and SEA), and only .05 better than the next-worse team. It’s a stat that eventually comes closer the mean, but the when an average team gets 1400 hits in a season, a small difference in H/R can mean a big difference in actual runs scored.
Anyway, only bad teams need more than 2 hits to score a run, night after night.
Over the last 2 and a half years, the league average is about 1.90.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
Actually it sounds stupid to say that's "WHY the Orioles have scored only 8 more runs..."
The number is just a reflection of the fact and doesn’t really give any insight into WHY.
The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST
by the fix is in on May 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
We know have ONE player in the lineup with any chance of running
and that’s Corey. Izzy’s gone base-stealing stupid, Luke, Wieters, Atkins, and Wiggy run like Mack Trucks in 2nd gear, and Nick’s success is advancing bases, not stealing them. Adam’s fast, but doesn’t have a clue on how to use it.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
It doesn't help
that we’re tied with the Royals for worst BB% in the AL (7.1%).
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Time to call up Tillman much?
Move DH to the bullpen and release Matt Albers.
b dot o, but i know that i flow rack them up knock them down dominos
by WestcoastO'sFan on May 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
I agree that it is probably time to bring up Tillman, but...
Castillo has to go before Albers. Albers has been BAD, but of late he’s pitched pretty decently. Castillo on the other hand….what is he here for? To give up long HR’s? We have 2 leftys in the pen already.
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 20, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
A couple words on Garrett Atkins
There are 46 players who have played first base this season with a higher wOBA than Atkins’ .247. Atkins wOBA is also the lowest of all first baseman who have over 100 at bats this year.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Revel in the Rays
even if it’s about the Rays. -zk
The O’s are a moribund franchise. I wish it weren’t so, but there is nothing I can do to change their plight. I’m not sure they know how to change their plight.
In the meanwhile we’re watching a young organization with a super front office take it to the Yankees and Red Sox. They are young, athletic, and just fun to watch while they pound away at the ESPN darlings. I root for them to win every single day and thus guarantee that one of the other you know who is booted from the post season.
I don’t know who long it will last as payroll pressures mount and these guys perhaps migrate off to richer teams. But it sure is super in the moment.
P.S. The old glory day O’s also did a hell of a lot with less thanks to super GM’s and a great manager. Maybe I see shades of the O’s of the past in the Rays of the present.
by drj on May 20, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Andy MacPhail can't hold Andrew Friedman's jock strap.
I’ve been thinking about writing a fanpost about this but Andy has zero ability in picking up “secondary” players. George Sherrill is his only good acquisition in this regard. Otherwise, he most relies on retrends to fill out roster spots. A stark contrast to Friedman.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
Felix Pie? Wiggy?
I don’t think that’s really fair. Luke Scott was a secondary player in the Tejada deal. Wiggy was signed to be a bench bat, and he’s clearly been worth more than what he’s been paid. Pie was a flyer on a busted prospect who we got for a song. Ohman hasn’t been as good as his ERA, but he’s a nice pickup on a non-roster invite.
I agree that Friedman is better, IMO. But MacPhail isn’t that bad in this regard. And since it has long been Angelos’ MO, I dunno how much blame we can put on Andy in any case.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Wiggy – 87 OPS+, -.8 WAR in 2009
Pie – 99 OPS+ in 2009, 1.2 WAR in 2009, played in 8 games in 2010.
Scott has been valuable, but he is too old for this team. Pie did fine in 2009 and I think he’s a good pick up. But the dude has played in 8 games this year. I’m not going to go ape shit over him (yet) or Ohman. Now the counter evidence. We have too many roster spots to players who have no long term future and/or suck (Tejada, Williams, Atkins, Montanez, Albers, Wiggy, Millwood, Lugo, Hughes). I’m not saying we can’t sign tier B or C vets. If they’re cheap and on a short term contract, I’m completely fine with them. But I am saying that Andy has done a good job in targeting prospects for a good nucleus but he’s terrible at finding secondary, role players. I’ll give him credit for Pie and Sherrill (who was traded for Bell), but let’s not pretend these are shining examples. I mean my god, look at our line up everyday. There’s always 3 to 5 spots filled with people who suck or won’t be here next year.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
i just won 4 tickets to an os game in june
from one of the companies that we work with…what game should i see?
os vs bos
os vs nym
os vs was
os vs oak
hmmmm
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 20, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions
Boston no doubt
Talk some shit to some Saux fans and watch an O’s win since we obviously own them this year!
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 20, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends...
…in June, you might be able to see Strasburg pitch for the Nats.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Can you imagine Matusz vs. Strasburg.
That’d be pretty epic.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 20, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Perfect game ahoy?
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
I'd do any of the top 3
I was actually going to go to the Mets series (It’s always fun to see a local team I don’t totally despise play the O’s, plus I like getting to see Wright and Reyes live), but i’m going to the Nats game on that Sunday instead (local “rivalries” are always fun, plus we might actually be able to win a couple of games there). The Sox game is prime, so free tickets to that are worth more at face value, plus Sox fans are freaking out thinking it’s the end of the world, so seeing some self-hating Sox fans live again might be fun.
Oakland is just insanely boring.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I think im gonna
Go see the Mets in LA this year. LETS GO METS!
b dot o, but i know that i flow rack them up knock them down dominos
by WestcoastO'sFan on May 20, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Check out the promo schedule, too.
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." -- Earl Weaver
Oh...
the June 30th game against the A’s is Wieters bobblehead night.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
There's your answer
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
agreed...
im thinking os vs mets or os vs oak (just for the bobblehead)
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 20, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Update
Not sure if anybody remembers talking about annoying co-workers but I brought up a guy in my office that refers to himself as a Rock Star that most of you found amusing. I just wanted to share with you that it has come to my attention that the office Rock Star now has an entourage. How do I know? – you ask. I heard him say “I will be there with my entourage”. Where? – you ask. Salsa Dancing.
Disclaimer: I am not one to make fun of people but at some point this guy is just asking for it. In addition, I have nothing against Salsa Dancing or those who do it – in fact, when done properly it looks cool – it’s just I don’t think you need to bring an entourage to Salsa Dancing. But I could be wrong.
You gotta keep us updated!
This is getting quite funny.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
yea keep these coming
And how do we join the aforementioned entourage?
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
credentials?
I would assume this is a rock star only entourage, so if you are bad ass rock star and can openly say in public you are the best damn rock star out there, then I’m sure you can join.
Uhm...
If he’s such an amazing rock star….what’s he doing working what I assume is a 9-5 day job?
Just wonderin….
"Real Orioles don't pout. Real Orioles don't gloat. Real Orioles just win."
by NewYorkOriole on May 20, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
by choice!
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 20, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It was Will Ohman
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
And it was quite funny.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on May 20, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Brian Burres threw a QS last night
6.0IP 7H 3ER 1BB 3K 1HR
He’s currently 2-1 for the Pirates with a 4.91 ERA and leading the NL in HBP. I say we trade Atkins for him.
Matt Wieters has a sustainably high BABIP
Somewhere Jim Palmer is nodding vigorously
"The United States is the New York Yankees of countries...powerful and respected until the year 2000." - Homer J. Simpson
i watched that game
He was about 2 feet from 3 more HR’s
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Burres would be an offensive upgrade at 1B
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 20, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad but...
Josh Bell’s OBP against right handed pitchers is higher than his OPS against left handed pitchers.
by Jordan Tuwiner on May 20, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions
Yikes.
When does the organization make him give up switch hitting?
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on May 20, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully this year
"I have seen the future and his name is Matt Wieters." Keith Law
by Reddrummer9187 on May 20, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking more like
this week.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on May 20, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It is 30 plate appearances
This is not statistically significant data. C’mon.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
It is consistent with his entire career to date, though
by fishoutawata on May 20, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He has a platoon split
If he starts batting only left-handed, he will still have a platoon split.
And while he has a historical platoon split, it isn’t this bad. His current numbers are ridiculous. But that’s unlikely to be his true talent level. And in any case, who cares? I don’t see how stopping switch hitting is going to make him hit lefties better.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
What Ive heard
Is that his swings are like two backgammon pieces: one light, one dark. And making him a full time lefty might help. I suppose it’s still early, but tick tick tick.
Outs in baseball are like lives in Mario.
by Andrew_G on May 20, 2010 3:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is anybody going to see the O's in DC this weekend?
I thought I’d head out there and if anyone else was then we could meet up and get something to drink together and whatever.
Outs in baseball are like lives in Mario.
I'm going on Sunday.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on May 20, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
me too.
"If they pitch to you, make them pay."
--Diamond Dave to the Phenom
by j.q. higgins on May 20, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
ive been considering it
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 20, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's have a Camden Chat D.C. invasion.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on May 20, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
idk if they can deal with it…
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 20, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be up for it
If you guys are.
Outs in baseball are like lives in Mario.
by Andrew_G on May 20, 2010 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm in for Sunday.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on May 20, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
im still unsure..i should know by tomorrow
It’s the Ric Flair Theory of baseball – To be the man, you gotta beat the man. -duck
by Parkinglotninja on May 20, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We were considering heading down from NJ
but it probably won’t happen. I’ll post if we do.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
It isn't like we haven't done it before
Hell, we’re going down to NC next weekend and driving home on Monday. Now THAT’s a shitty drive (especially on a holiday).
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
I just read the ESPN
Mid-May Fantasy rankings, its the most convoluted piece of crap you will ever see.
b dot o, but i know that i flow rack them up knock them down dominos
by WestcoastO'sFan on May 20, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions
My god
As i continue to look at this, it is terrible. How does Brian Roberts place ahead of Ty Wiggington, and why is Jonathon Papelbum the 3rd “best” relief pitcher.
b dot o, but i know that i flow rack them up knock them down dominos
by WestcoastO'sFan on May 20, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's perfromance thus far and expected performance for the rest of the year
but yea, they suck.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
At the moment, aside from Chris Tillman
How’s that return working out for us?
Sure, we got 1.5 pretty good seasons from Flat Breezy. We got 0.5 great seasons from Adam Jones. Josh Bell MIGHT be good. Steve Johnson MIGHT be organizational filler at AAA.
But 2.5 years out from that trade, the return isn’t looking nearly as awesome as we thought it might, even after flipping Sherrill.
That said, IF Chris Tillman comes up and pitches well and this team sniffs .500, then it was absolutely the right move to make. Just not as awesome as we hoped.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
How well has it worked out for anyone?
Bedard has pitched in 30 games the past 2 seasons. Would you have rather we had him sitting on the DL for us? I think it was the right move regardless, we needed to acquire prospects since the organization was so thin. The shine has worn off it a tad though after the recent struggles of Jonesy.
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 20, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
this is true
hasnt worked out that great for anybody, but i’d rather have jones in the lineup than bedard sitting on the DL even if jones is sucking
by twistedlogic on May 20, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just saying
this wasn’t necessarily the deal to take. Is it a failure of scouting? Or just bad luck?
We don’t know what else was on the table or what may have become available. I’m just saying, for his signature trade, MacPhail’s reputation for being a trading genius fades everytime Adam Jones swings at a curve a foot out of the zone and Josh Bell struggles to bat even .200 against lefties.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
i find it perplexing
How it’s just the tone around here that Adam is a bust. And you know what? Even if he turns out that way, that trade still should have been done. So soon we forget about how everyone in baseball was amazed at the O’s haul. Sure it had a level of risk, doesn’t mean there was an error in scouting.
by Stacey on May 20, 2010 7:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep
He’s playing like crap, but last year we all thought he was the next Torii Hunter (and maybe then some). I’m by no means convinced what he is right now is what he is going to be. We’ll see, but i’m not so quick to say he’s gonna be crap for the rest of his career.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The evidence is mounting, though
He hasn’t had a good month hitting since June 2009. Do we let him keep jogging out there every day for another 2-4 months without sending him down?
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
adam loewen
just read on on of the links adam loewen isnt doingto bad at 1b neither is huff id take either if them over atkins
Anybody have Direct TV?
I’m trying to choose between Comcast, Verizon, and Direct TV for the new place…
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I have DirecTv
and they carry MASN 2 and MASN in HD now.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Do I have to request MASN 2 special or something?
It’s not on the channel lists and the guy I was chatting with from their site couldn’t find it as an add-on.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
I know that with Comcast, C-SPAN2 switches over to MASN2 when there is a game on. Not sure if this is also the case with Direct TV/Verizon.
by kramertoneman on May 20, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If you are slatedto get MASN and CSN
as your local sports, you should get MASN 2 also. Channel 641 and 641-1 (HD).
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
by duck on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
gots me directTV
they’ve got MASNHD and MASN2HD
by twistedlogic on May 20, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No Comcast
Half of their HD channels including MASN will randomly go out, sometimes in the middle of a game or LOST.
yeah I'm very tired of comcast.
I’ll probably have to stick with them for internet.
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
Verizon Fios rocks. Get it if it's available.
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe it's Verizon that doesn't have MASN2
I have Comcast and they obviously suck, but my only other option is DirecTV which doesn’t provide me the internet connection to which I’ve grown accustomed.
Fios doesn't have MASN2 specifically, but...
they do show MASN2 O’s / Nats games on Channel 1
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 20, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And that channel isn't in HD.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 20, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I need internet so I may just end up going with Comcast again
Rub some $100 bills on it, you sell-out. -duck
reds just blew a 9-3 lead in the bottom of the 9th
Check this out:
"This club is not a good club." --Jim Palmer
Does anyone know our all-time record vs. the Natinals?
baseball-reference doesn’t have it, neither does the O’s official site.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 20, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
pretty close
Including the Expos years it’s 18-21, but just since they moved to D.C. it’s 12-12
I looked under team, never thought to look under games.
Everyone thought Baltimore was three easy wins and we got our ass kicked three times. - Dustin Pedroia, After the Red Sox got swept by the Orioles.
by BaltimoreSportsFan on May 20, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone with front page access
I am going to be hard pressed to get home by game time, so if someone wants to post a game thread go for it.
by Stacey on May 20, 2010 7:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Sorry, we had a disaster, I mean a game
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Always nice to see Pettite get shellacked
4 men up so far, all 4 reached base. 3-0! Sweet.
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and then Pena GIDP on the 1st pitch ....fucker
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by PBR me ASAP! on May 20, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions
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