OT: LOST Finale Open Thread
by duck on May 23, 2010 7:00 PM EDT
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PrintO's Up, Birds Down will publish tomorrow morning at 9 a.m.
Since a fair number of Camden Chatters are also LOST fanatics, I thought we'd post a thread for us to come together and talk during the finale.
IF you're not a LOST junkie, feel free to make some good-natured fun of us. If you're interested in catching up, the series recap starts, well, now. It's on a 7 p.m. EST. The actual series finale starts at 9 p.m.
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This has happened before, and will happen again.
Wait, wrong show.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
I work at an ABC station....
…..and I have always hated this show. To each their own, of course, but I really hope JJ Abrams gives the fans of this show the finger at the end and come on camera and tells people that there is no way they can possibly explain anything and that they were just pulling stuff out of their ass for the last six years.
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by IHeartMASN on May 23, 2010 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Actually...
the two guys in charge of the show have said anything they didn’t address by the finale will be on the last DVD set.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
cuse and lindeloff are going into hiding for awhile
they’ve been saying this for awhile on the podcasts.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
They're doing Jimmy Kimmel Live
then going into what they call “radio silence”
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Technically,
doing Jimmy Kimmel qualifies as radio silence.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
zing!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
but I really hope JJ Abrams gives the fans of this show the finger at the end and come on camera and tells people that there is no way they can possibly explain anything and that they were just pulling stuff out of their ass for the last six years
well, you basically called it. except, instead of giving us the finger, they pretended it all meant something deep and meaningful when in fact it still makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I wish they had kept doing the nicknames with Sawyer
They seem to have cut them off as the series progressed.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
can somebody from the east coast stream me the finale?
6 pm my time would be perfect.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
SOPCAST is your friend
I’m sure there will be a stream
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
how does this work?
I just download the client and then tune in to the right channel? is that it?
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
Yeah
Do a Google search for the channel for a LOST stream. Not that I’ve ever done that. No siree.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
That's the hardest part
Sometimes, they don’t show up until the stream starts. I’ll see what I can do.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
yeah, it doesn't look like i can a channel, oh well.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
NERDS!!!!!!
j/k, enjoy all. It was just never my cup-o-tea.
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
I saw the "LOST" title
and naturally thought this was a game recap. Or maybe a series recap. Perhaps a season recap? I have no idea at this point.
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
A decade plus recap...
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 23, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a series recap
I think the whole thing is waaay overblown; I’m not a sitcom connoisseur, but they’re sending out this show as if it’s the end of a golden era in television history.
As I’m sure many people have remarked before, the show was so captivating because there were myriad intriguing mysteries.
Unfortunately for me, the answers they provided weren’t at all adequate. That being said, there’s still nearly two hours left for some splanations.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
by Baltimo on May 23, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just starting the recap episode
if it’s good I’ll catch up to the live episode eventually, if it’s dumb I’ll just turn it off at 9.
Is whatever picture duck posted not showing for anyone else?
pic fail for me
Make the world a better place; punch a Yankee fan in the face!
by PBR me ASAP! on May 23, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I took care of it
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
I have started to wonder if we're supposed to hate jack and kate
I think we’re supposed to like them, but I hate their effing guts.
I'm not a fan of either...
…but I’ll take both of them over Ben and Desmond.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Really?
I’m no huge fan of Ben but I love Desmond.
Mostly I love Jin and Hurley.
I’m enjoying these clips. I never watched any of the recaps they did before each season so I haven’t see this stuff in forever.
Desmond's original backstory infuriates me
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
The Constant might be one of the best hours I've ever seen, though
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
It was a good episode
Although it came when my patience with the show was about shot.
But fundamentally, the problem I have with Desmond is that his entire rationale for having to leave Penny, and his bizarre race around the world to be worthy of her, just didn’t work for me. He’s been very good in a lot of ways after being sucked into the Swan station, but the origin just doesn’t work for me.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
With a show with as many side stories as this
not all of them are going to work. I kinda just ignore the parts I don;t like, and I managed to miss the entire Paulo/Nikki mess.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
A lot of people hate Kate
I never got hating her, and I think Sawyer’s funny as hell with the nicknames,. but LOTS of people were pissed she didn;t die when she was shot a few weeks back.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
You have plenty of company
just not me.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
SHIT! My ABC affiliate just went into SD!
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Watching some of this recap stuff
Reminds me why I used to like the series much more than I do now.
The threat of “other” humans on the island was mysterious yet still tangible/believable; when the smoke monster became a focus, I lost all hope for a rational explanation to anything.
That reminds me, wtf happened with the polar bears?
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
Doh
I just looked it up – for anyone wondering/can’t remember, Darma brought them to the island.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
Someone finally notices the insaneness of the names on this show
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
STAR WARS FTW!!!!!
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Random question
Does anyone know when the cutoff time for dropping off a package is for Fedex overnight if it’s going cross-country?
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
I'm guessing you missed it for tonight
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
It's not for today
I’m trying to send it tomorrow, but thanks for the link.
"There's only one cure for what's wrong with all of us pitchers, and that's to take a year off. Then, after you've gone a year without throwing, quit altogether." -Jim Palmer
We're a full-service site
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
Try this
http://www.fedex.com/ratefinder/home?cc=US&language=en&locId=express
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
So, I'm guessing we don't need to bother
with a “24” thread tomorrow night…
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
The light thing is dumb
but what else were they gonna do? I suppose the Island had to be a metaphor for something.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
yeah
I think so too, but at least they’re resolving it.
by Gorilla Bird on May 23, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
can i just point out
that in my opinion lost hasn’t clearly addressed a major plot point in 5 years?
"Being an Orioles fan is like having Erectile Dysfunction"
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.
Like what?
Smoke monster? Solved
Whispers? Solved
Jack seeing his dad? Solved
Hatch & numbers? Solved
Jacob? Solved
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
i don't know it confuses the shit outta me
they’re on the island, they’re off the island, they’re traveling in time in like 1974, they don’t flash forward or flash back, they flash sideways into some kinda parallel dimension, it’s just so damn hard to follow. i feel like if you miss an episode then you’re done.
"Being an Orioles fan is like having Erectile Dysfunction"
"harden the fuck up mike gonzalez."
The Signing Bonus: We're back in business.
by danielreese05 on May 23, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep falling behind, so I can't make comments.
Too many commercials, I’m just pausing my dvr and going outside to smoke.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
Aww Kate loves Jack.
Yet she’s saving her ass while he gets stuck with Ben and Hugo.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
"I don't believe in a lot of things, but I do believe in duct tape."
That’s awesome.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
If all the other people that died on the island
get to live happily ever after, what about Mr. Echo? He was one of my favorite charachters from the first season.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
I was glad they died.
I laughed. They need to stay dead. That episode wasted an hour of my life. I’m still sorta pissed about it.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
I loved Mr. Echo
Next to Desmond he might be my favorite character.
by Gorilla Bird on May 23, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he asked off the show
family obligations or something, which is why his story never went anywhere. Unless I just made that up on my head.
Looked it up.
Turns out, he wasn’t introduced until the 2nd season. The creators liked the actor, so they talked him into taking the part, he wasn’t interested at first, and only agreed to take it for a shorter time period than they wanted. So, he got killed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Eko
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
If the man in black becaume the smoke monster when he was thrown into the light,
wouldn’t Jack become the smoke monster now?
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
That's what I was thinking when Desmond went down there
then I figured his crazy magnetic blah blah stopped that. Now I don’t know.
I figured
that Desmond didn’t have the powers Jacob and the MIB were born with, and he could do the whole resisting electromagnetic force thing, so he’d be ok.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
So now Desmond and Hurley and Ben are just gonna live on the island?
Also, if Smoke Monster Locked is dead, what exactly does Hugo need to protect the island from?
Ok,
I think you might actually be farther behind than I am.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
I see that now,
I’m watching Hugo ask Ben for help right now. I just thought you were back where Hugo and Ben didn’t jump off the cliff with Sawyer and Kate.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
And the woman who killed Jacob and the MIB's mother
was protecting the island from other people before there was a smoke monster. So, I think it’s from people in general.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
I'm a little behind because I dvr'd it,
but it looks like Locke is going back to the island and leaving a woman who wanted to marry him in spite of him being confined to a wheelchair. That’s a whole special catagory of fucked up.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
When Jack and Ben wanted to go back to the Island the first time,
didn’t they go to a church to meet Benjamin’s mother? There’s a good chance I’m wrong, I really can’t remember. Anybody know?
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
Sorry,
I’m really far behind, and the whole Ben sitting outside the church thing is throwing me for a loop. I’ll just shut up and wait for the ending now.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
Ok I lied.
I rewinded a little bit, but only because Kate looks damn good walking away in that dress.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
by Gregory O on May 23, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
That's a rec
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
2 recs
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Ms. Kate (sorry Stacey, Im with Duck on this one)
by Wieters Wieners on May 24, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh she's gorgeous
Evangeline Lilly is a lovely person I’m sure; it’s Kate I found to be insufferable.
BTW I’m watching Friday Night Lights now, have seen the first three eps so far. Coach is having a rough go of things!
I think any finale is going to be a letdown.
But that was way more of a letdown then it should have been.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
You didn't like the Sopranos finale...
…or the Lost finale?
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
Lost.
I never saw the Sopranos finale, my sister tried to get me to start watching Sopranos about halfway through the second season. I saw a few episodes and liked the series, so I stopped watching until I could get caught up. Just haven’t managed it yet. Was busy with the Wire, then Lost. Now I think I have the time, so that’s my next series.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
And yes I know the ending to Sopranos.
I’m just going to try to forget it until I watch the rest of the series.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
Oh, I will.
The series just lasted too long. I just got into it too late, and then it just kept going. Besides, I didn’t start Lost until after season 2 came out on DVD, and I watched the first two seasons over a weekend where I didn’t have anything else to do. After that, it was torture to wait a week for a new episode, much less waiting over the summer for the next season. Watching a series whenever I want shoud be refreshing.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
15 minutes out, I'm OK wigth it.
Live, I was like, huh? But after digesting it, I’m OK with it. Basically, the Sideways World had no bearing on the main plot, which pisses me off, but I think I have it making sense in my head.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
I'm not particularly bothered...
….just reminded of why I stopped enjoying the show in the first place.
Actually, that’s not entirely true. I have a problem with forgiving the characters for the things they have done, particularly Ben. But I suppose that if you choose to make your show this explicitly deistic, that is bound to happen.
To be understood is to be a prostitute. ~ Fernando Pessoa
I just wish
the Sideways World didn’t end up being completely unconnected to the Island. That was a bummer.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
yeah
I was thinking that, just wasn’t connecting my thoughts well enough to articulate them. I thought the sideways world went from totally awesome (all the remembering) to super lame (a post-death meeting place).
by Gorilla Bird on May 23, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
So basically, the resolution to the plot...
was a Unitarian Church meeting.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
haha
yeah. It just seemed so anti-climactic. I figured they would go the pluralism route, but I didn’t think it’d be so blatant and unimaginative.
by Gorilla Bird on May 24, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
ha ha
i noticed that too.
firs tthere were like five images of crosses. and then they had a shot that said, “wait a minute, there’s something here for everyone!”. including a panel that just had a wheel in it.
JUST LIKE THE WHEEL AT THE CENTER OF THE ISLAND. OMG.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
exactly
They could have at least tried to be creative and make us think a little bit.
by Gorilla Bird on May 24, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
For a while, I thought that they were all going to the island once they remembered that they were there once. It was looking like the bomb actually did reset time, and they were all going to figure out they needed to go to the island anyway. Then it turns out they were just dead.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
My problem with the ending,
is that one of the theories at the very beginning of the series is that they were all dead and not really on an island at all. It was a very popular theory at the time, so even though they didn’t follow that theory exactly, it kind of seems they just took that as the easiest solution to end the series. On top of that I can’t stand finale’s that are all touchy feely with no actual story.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
But they WERE on The Island
All that stuff actually happened,. It was;‘t purgatory, it wasn’t hell. Those on the Ajira flight made it off. Jack really died on the island, so did Jin and Sun and Sayid.
It’s the Sideways world that never actually happened.
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the island
we still never really got to know what the island was and if/why it needed to be protected and why the man in black couldn’t be allowed off.
by Gorilla Bird on May 23, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The sideways world is where
Jack went when he died, or at least completly. It was never given that those on the plane actualy survived to get back to civilization. The timeline difference between the island and the sideways world was never established, so we don’t know if people exist on both at the same time or not. It’s a charachteristic of the creators of lost to leave that hanging in order to spark debate on the topic. I just don’t thing a finale should spark debate. I like everything tied up into a neat little bow. And I wasn’t saying that they were on the island because they were dead, I was just saying that the plot line for the final episode was very close to a commonly held theory from the first season.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
No, he let a new cast move in the island over, but
he kept a 90% stake of the broadcast rights that reverts to 70% after four years.
"I’d like to be 29, 6-foot-3 and have a full head of hair," Trembley said. "The reality is, realignment is not going to happen. So we’re going to have to deal with it."
As long as the Crow is still there...
Sorry, couldn’t resist… never really got into Lost, I may catch it on DVD some day though..
What up?
by snakethejake on May 24, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly?
The finale was a complete FAIL.
And guess what? It turns out the creators DIDN’T have any idea where they were going.
Ugh. SO GLAD this show is done with.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
It was OK for me
Just OK> We all knew the final scene would be Jack’s death, with his eye closing. And I’ll admit, when the dog nestled up to him as he lay dying, I sniffled.
But the Sideways World being a group hallucination? FAIL.
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The Dog
I thought for sure that when the dog nestled up to him they’d show clips of that scene a while ago where Jack said “everyone dies alone” or something to that effect.
by Gorilla Bird on May 24, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
after talking to my buddy about the ending
But the Sideways World being a group hallucination? FAIL.
It wasn’t a group hallucination. It’s a place where they all decided to meet after they died either on the island (Shannon) or post island (we’re suppose to assume that ben, hurley, kate, sawyer, etc would eventually die at some point). Christian Shepherd explained it pretty clearly. Of course, this renders all of the shit that happened before the church as pointless. As my friend said, “And since we’re living new lives I’m (Sawyer) going to fuck that scientist chick before we meet up.” Completely pointless BS.
I came to camdenchat and all I got was this lousy avatar.
That's the most disappointing part
that the Sideways World had no real relevance on the story. None.
When you watch the Orioles every night, a beer after dinner turns into a six pack WAY too many times. Stacey
I totally disagree
For me, this show was always about characters. Yes the mystery was intriguing and the action was exciting, but ultimately I was in love with the characters. That’s why I was so mad when, the week after we lost Sun and Jin and Sayid, when I was still mourning and wanting to be around the remaining characters, I had to spend an hour with Jacob and Smokey and CJ Cregg. Regardless of whether or not the answers they attempted to provide made any sense, that’s not what I wanted or needed to see as someone who had spent six years with these people.
One of the things that is often happens in a series finale is a parade of old characters because they know those are the people that we spent years watching and want to have one more moment with. Lost did that brilliantly. Every time someone in the alternate reality connected with another character it made me a little happier, and I about lost it when Sawyer saw Juliet.
You may want to watch it again...
because it was actually done exceptionally well.
You tell me, how could they have made this better?
You know the last 15 minutes in itself is actually acceptable to me. Those were some nice moments. Sawyer and Juliet kissing was nice. But idea of the castaways meeting in the afterlife is fine. But, of course, I can’t judge the last minutes in itself. That whole segment rendered so much of season six pointless. And I’m still pissed!
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um....
they could have made it about tying up 10,000 loose ends that they never addressed, instead of about 25 gauzy reunions between people who sucked face once in season one.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
finale
I just finished watching it. My initial reaction is very negative. But I need to chew on it a bit more. My opinion could evolve.
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Lost, as peformed by cats in 1 minute
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1936179
"things like locig and prrofreading are actually valued here" - zknower
The Onion, brilliant as usual.
‘Lost’ Possibly Still Airing In Parallel Dimension, Desperate Fans Report
“It’s very possible that a sideways world running concurrent to our own exists, and that a facsimile of myself is happy, fulfilled, and already gearing up for the season seven premiere of Lost,” said 36-year-old Kevin Molinaro, who, along with more than 20 million other hopeless fans, has recently booked multiple roundtrip tickets from Los Angeles to Australia in hopes of traveling through a vortex in the space-time continuum. “I just have to find a way to get there. We all do.”
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
a few more thoughts.
1) In last podcast from Season 5, Cuse and Lindeloff said you would have enough pieces to predict the end once watching the season 6 opener. I don’t know how the fuck you could piece together an incomprehensible ending based on what we saw in the season 6 opener.
2) They also said the random dharma drop from season 2 or 3 would be explained. It never was explained. This is one example of a larger problem, namely, parts of the overall plot is now incomprehensible. Or other parts of the plot are pretty much left explained with, “That’s strange but there’s nothing to explain it.” Like the horse that showed up on the island in Kate’s back story. Or the cat from Sayid’s back story. Or the “box” that Ben mentioned that brought Locke’s dad to the island. Just random coincidental stuff.
3) Much like Alias, the writers mismanged the story. They introduced story lines and never picked them. Libby being the most obvious example.
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right.
3) Much like Alias, the writers mismanged the story. They introduced story lines and never picked them. Libby being the most obvious example.
or pretty much the entire widmore storyline.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
and the others
What a load of unexplained shit. Why did they kidnap certain people? Why did they terrorize the passengers? As Michael said at the end of season 1, “Who are you people?”
And the smoke monster, why did he kill certain people (Ecko)? What was the purpose of scanning them? If he wanted to kill the candidates from the get go, he should have destroyed any natural resources the candidates needed to survive.
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No, birdman,
that would be against THE RULES.
WHAT rules?
Ummm. Umm, the rules that CJ Cregg set!!!
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
the fucking rules man,
When Jacob had them around the camp fire, the writers should have used that moment to explain some fucking rules. It appears one of the rules is that the MiB couldn’t kill the candidates directly. That he needed to kill the candidates before leaving. But now that doesn’t even make sense because Locke could destroy the island without killing Hurley, Kate, and Sawyer. What the fuck was the point of him doing all that shit to kill when it was fucking unnecessary. And what the fuck was up with claiming people? What the fuck happened to Claire? I don’t need EVERY loose end tied up. But some certain things needed to tied up or else it just gets chalked up to, “Well, it was strange, but that’s it.” For example, it was strange that Claire was acting fucking normal and then all of sudden acts like a fucking zombie who decides to abandon her child.
And yes, the more I chew on the finale, the more I’m getting pissed. The finale is making me rethink the entire artistic merit of the show.
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I'm the same way
I was ok with it when i was watching it, and the more and more I think about it the more upset I get that they did an awful job closing most of the plot out.
by Gorilla Bird on May 24, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The finale is making me rethink the entire artistic merit of the show
hahahahaha! I never thought the show was much more than a bad soap opera with some wacky smoke monsters thrown in. problem is, at the beginning, it was more promising than that. and i got invested. i watched the last 3 seasons because i had some hope there was a way to explain it all, but i knew in my heart of hearts that they had no idea.
this is why all the awful copycat “event” shows: flashforward, the nine, jericho, etc. are doomed to fall. no one wants to get strung along for five years trying to find out some stupid “secret thing that explains it all”. viewers know that the writers just aren’t that creative, particularly when the medium is designed to have stories with open endings so a show can last several seasons.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
the show had wonderful and brilliant elements to it
hahahahaha! I never thought the show was much more than a bad soap opera with some wacky smoke monsters thrown in.
The conflict between science and religion, between fate and agency, between redemption and damnation. I still like those elements. And there are many individual episodes which are terrific. But the plot as a whole, as it unfolded over a six year time frame, just sucked.
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Use your imagination.
Some things are better off left unexplained. If you honestly came into the finale of this show expecting them to run down a list of answers for us, you’re an idiot.
I wasn’t expecting them to explain every little mystery. In fact, I said so above (I think). For example, I could a rat’s ass if they explained Henry Gale’s story. The hurley bird? Who the fuck cares. What do expect them to explain is enough so I can understand the 1) characters and 2) how the plot unfolds. What partially made the show great was the characters. We cared about them because we could understood their motives and who they were. I can’t understand who Jacob and the MiB were because of plot holes. I can’t understand the plot period because of plot holes. You don’t expect these things at a minimum, you’re an idiot.
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sorry brutha, I'm not reexplaining stuff.
But there’s plenty of stuff I’ve discussed above… and that’s just the beginning.
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no, i didn't expect them to address them
they’d showed their true colors long ago.
“some things are better off left unexplained”? what, do you work for JJ Abrams or something?
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
also, you don't need to be a dick about it.
"I doubt he could reach [second base]...mostly cuz his fucking arm was in Aybar's nuts." – twistedlogic
I just finished watching the Finale again...
I totally agree. Bigtime FAIL. With like 2 minutes remaining in the episode, I looked at the wife and said “it kinda seems like they need another hour to wrap this thing up doesnt it?”. She agreed. Needless to say, the final 2 minutes didn’t pull everything together for me. So either Im just dumb and can’t fit it all together logically, or there are significant holes. If one of my friends that has never seen the show asked me to recap it from season 1 on, I’d start off “ok, this plane crashed…. blah blah blah, the others, ummmm…. well, they were…. well, lets move on… this guy widmore, he was…. well…. in hindsight, lets move on…. uhhhh…… anyway the dharma initiative well….. lets move on…. they were all dead”.
You really couldnt explain the story (as fictional as it may be) to anyone comprehensively.
by Wieters Wieners on May 24, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
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